Debate number two - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

spence · 10-08-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I knew some shady characters growing up, kids that were involved in things I didnt believe in. I hung with a pretty wild crowd so these people were pretty out there. i chose not to hang around with people because they werent what I was about, sometimes at the expense of being a wimp in my friends eyes.

Jimmy, Obama only associated with Ayers decades after this behavior!

Your analogy is moot!

-spence

Nebe · 10-08-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Jimmy, Obama only associated with Ayers decades after this behavior!

Your analogy is moot!

-spence

yes Moot and its one of the few pieces of the puzzzle that the GOP can use against Obama.

RIJIMMY · 10-08-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Jimmy, Obama only associated with Ayers decades after this behavior!

Your analogy is moot!

-spence

No its not, its a judgement call. Obama should have shown better judgement. He is a politician and must understand the implications of his actions and associations.

Nebe · 10-08-2008, 10:10 AM

and flying your family to the bahamas 5 times on a private jet that is owned by a special interest group is not bad judgment?

striperman36 · 10-08-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

and flying your family to the bahamas 5 times on a private jet that is owned by a special interest group is not bad judgment?

Totally farking bad judgement. Should have used the Bud Airship instead.
That person is totally Mr. DeRegulation. Send him to Afghanistan to talk to Osama, without pre-conditions.

justplugit · 10-08-2008, 11:15 AM

Imho, pretty much a tie.

I think the McCaine proposal to use 300 billion, if it is taken from the 700 billion rescue plan,
to reduce real estate values to true values by paying the difference in troubled mortgages to equalize the market is worth looking at.

When it comes to Obama's associations with Ayers, Rev. Wrigth, Father Flager and other questionables,
i like the old addage, "birds of a feather flock together."

fishsmith · 10-08-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

I think the McCaine proposal to use 300 billion, if it is taken from the 700 billion rescue plan,
to reduce real estate values to true values by paying the difference in troubled mortgages to equalize the market is worth looking at.

I know something has to be done, but like a fool I've been paying my mortgage payments in full and on time. It

burns me up to know some of those who haven't , will get a new loan and reduced monthly payment.

justplugit · 10-08-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fishsmith

I know something has to be done, but like a fool I've been paying my mortgage payments in full and on time. It

burns me up to know some of those who haven't , will get a new loan and reduced monthly payment.

I know FS, i;ve done the same and feel the same way, but i'd like to see some of that money used to help our citizens and by doing so help stabilize the real estate market.

I think it's worth looking into.

spence · 10-08-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

No its not, its a judgement call. Obama should have shown better judgement. He is a politician and must understand the implications of his actions and associations.

Then explain to me, if this is so important, why Ayers wasn't seen as a person of great contraversy within the city of Chigago up until now?

He seems to actually have been quite respected in the community for his work and dedication.

Jimmy, you're being punked by a Karl Rove strawman.

-spence

Nebe · 10-08-2008, 11:09 AM

this whole country has been punked for the last 8 years spence.

RIJIMMY · 10-08-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Then explain to me, if this is so important, why Ayers wasn't seen as a person of great contraversy within the city of Chigago up until now?

He seems to actually have been quite respected in the community for his work and dedication.

Jimmy, you're being punked by a Karl Rove strawman.

-spence

Come on, he is a topic becuase of Obamas association with hi. And I punk for no one, I make up my own opinions on the importance of the association.

spence · 10-08-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Come on, he is a topic becuase of Obamas association with hi. And I punk for no one, I make up my own opinions on the importance of the association.

Up until they GOP decided they could use him to smear Obama, he wasn't seen as a contraversial figure in Chicago...he was a pretty mainstream educational professor.

Do you think parents were letting their kids be educated by a terrorist?

What a joke.

-spence

justplugit · 10-08-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

...he was a pretty mainstream educational professor.

-spence

Geez, a guy who was tied to trying to bomb our own country,
and has said he wasn't sorry and wished he had done more becomes a MAINSTREAM educational professor?

spence · 10-08-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

Geez, a guy who was tied to trying to bomb our own country,
and has said he wasn't sorry and wished he had done more becomes a MAINSTREAM educational professor?

Yes, he's currently a "Distinguished Professor" at the University of Chicago and seen as an expert on many social issues. Sounds pretty mainstream to me.

-spence