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			10-09-2008, 08:40 AM
			
			
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		 "CNN launched its second annual global search for ordinary people accomplishing extraordinary deeds in February. The network has aired weekly CNN Hero profiles of those people, chosen from more than 3,700 nominations submitted by viewers in 75 countries." 
 
Jim, not to read in between the lines, but I would view the ones you mentioned as doing their job, which involves them going above and beyond as part of the job description. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2008, 08:45 AM
			
			
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		"ordinary people"  thats you and me and well..... maybe spence.  
Military people are not ordinary.. they are extraordinary.    
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2008, 11:06 AM
			
			
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				Jim, not to read in between the lines, but I would view the ones you mentioned as doing their job, which involves them going above and beyond as part of the job description. 
			
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 I would argue that your assertion, as you phrased it, does diminish somewhat the incredible acts of heroism our services members do demonstrate. 
 
That being said, given the objectives stated in the CNN article RIJIMMY linked to, I don't think the mission being executed by the US Government really fits the profile being used to select nominees.
 
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 By this measure the military doesn't really fit. Grassroots fundraising to send our troops gifts (like body armour) is certinaly a generous behavior, but on an individual scale impacts limited people.
 
So I think RIJIMMY might just have to suck it up and admit he was wrong on this one.
 
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			10-09-2008, 11:08 AM
			
			
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				I would argue that your assertion, as you phrased it, does diminish somewhat the incredible acts of heroism our services members do demonstrate.  
 
That being said, given the objectives stated in the CNN article RIJIMMY linked to, I don't think the mission being executed by the US Government really fits the profile being used to select nominees. 
By this measure the military doesn't really fit. Grassroots fundraising to send our troops gifts (like body armour) is certinaly a generous behavior, but on an individual scale impacts limited people. 
So I think RIJIMMY might just have to suck it up and admit he was wrong on this one. 
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 I did not mean to diminish spence; rather imply military/USCG trained, in Military/USCG rescue situations are not 'Ordinary' people.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2008, 12:38 PM
			
			
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				I did not mean to diminish spence; rather imply military/USCG trained, in Military/USCG rescue situations are not 'Ordinary' people. 
			
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 I agree, but even for those elite groups heroic acts are relative, the bar is just set higher   
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			10-09-2008, 01:09 PM
			
			
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		 You also have to factor in that the list is being compiled by Anderson-Born-on-5th-Ave-My-mom-is-Gloria-Vanderbilt-I'm Prada's-poster-boy-Cooper. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2008, 01:19 PM
			
			
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		 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
 
Later, hero (male) and heroine (female) came to refer to characters (fictional or historical) that, in the face of danger and adversity or from a position of weakness, display courage and the will for self-sacrifice – that is, heroism – for some greater good, originally of martial courage or excellence but extended to more general moral excellence. 
 
So are you saying that our military personnel are all coming from a position of weakness Jim?  Is that how you view our country?  Shame... oh the shame. 
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-09-2008, 01:31 PM
			
			
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		 "Apotheosis" now, there's a word you don't hear bandied about in pedestrian conversation. 
		
		
		
		
		
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