Urban/Suburban/Rural breakdown of 1988-2008 election

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

it has turned into a money tree for those who choose not to get a real job/education, or have 6 kids even though they have no education or skills.

Agree with that 100% and those are the people that are the problem...I don't have any sympathy for them.

[fishbones]

JohnnyD and The Dad Fisherman,

I've always been on the conservative side of the fence. But working where I do now, has made me even more so. I still believe that there are people who legitimately use unemployment and welfare as tools to make it through tough times and get back on their feet. But, there are people who manipulate the system to avoid having to fully support themselves.

If you ever want to see people "milking the system" come to work with me some day. You probably wouldn't believe some of the crap I have do for people who have no desire to support themselves. I see it in the real world (or for what passes for the real world in Providence, RI) every day that I go to work. It may not happen where you guys live and work, but I'm not exagerrating when I say that I have to send out at few as 1 and as many as 5 or 6 letters each week to employees who quit their jobs or get fired. They need letters to bring to their case workers so they can continue receiving government benefits. Most of these employees quit or do something to get themselves fired within the first month of employment. I've actually had people tell me that I have to put in the letter that they were laid off so they can get their benefits.

Then, there are other people from the same neighborhoods who are dealing with the same circumstances that want to get off the system and support themselves. And while they bust their tails working for minimum wage, the lazy a-holes sit at home eating Doritos and watching Dr. Phil.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

If you ever want to see people "milking the system" come to work with me some day. You probably wouldn't believe some of the crap I have do for people who have no desire to support themselves. I see it in the real world (or for what passes for the real world in Providence, RI) every day that I go to work. It may not happen where you guys live and work, but I'm not exagerrating when I say that I have to send out at few as 1 and as many as 5 or 6 letters each week to employees who quit their jobs or get fired. They need letters to bring to their case workers so they can continue receiving government benefits. Most of these employees quit or do something to get themselves fired within the first month of employment. I've actually had people tell me that I have to put in the letter that they were laid off so they can get their benefits.

Then, there are other people from the same neighborhoods who are dealing with the same circumstances that want to get off the system and support themselves. And while they bust their tails working for minimum wage, the lazy a-holes sit at home eating Doritos and watching Dr. Phil.

I believe all of it. Which is why I've always been a supporter of decreased Welfare benefits and increased oversight. I worked the Emergency medical field in Hartford for 3 years and I was continually amazed. Women having their 4th kid at the age of 21. People with BMWs and big screen TVs in their homes but are on State health insurance.

It's interesting that you had to send those letters out even for people that were only there a month. In MA, I believe you have to be employed for 90 days before you are eligible for any kind of state benefits due to losing your job. If I could, I'd also refuse to send the letters out for those that were fired. I wouldn't doubt they were fired for the same reasons they want welfare - laziness.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Oh I know there's plenty of people scamming the system.....I've seen it. Would never deny it. And got no use for them. It just strikes a nerve in me when everybody gets lumped in to that group because they legitimately need assistance.

Besides I feel better now knowing that RIJimmy loves me....

Originally Posted by fishbones

JohnnyD and The Dad Fisherman,

I've always been on the conservative side of the fence. But working where I do now, has made me even more so. I still believe that there are people who legitimately use unemployment and welfare as tools to make it through tough times and get back on their feet. But, there are people who manipulate the system to avoid having to fully support themselves.

If you ever want to see people "milking the system" come to work with me some day. You probably wouldn't believe some of the crap I have do for people who have no desire to support themselves. I see it in the real world (or for what passes for the real world in Providence, RI) every day that I go to work. It may not happen where you guys live and work, but I'm not exagerrating when I say that I have to send out at few as 1 and as many as 5 or 6 letters each week to employees who quit their jobs or get fired. They need letters to bring to their case workers so they can continue receiving government benefits. Most of these employees quit or do something to get themselves fired within the first month of employment. I've actually had people tell me that I have to put in the letter that they were laid off so they can get their benefits.

Then, there are other people from the same neighborhoods who are dealing with the same circumstances that want to get off the system and support themselves. And while they bust their tails working for minimum wage, the lazy a-holes sit at home eating Doritos and watching Dr. Phil.