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04-12-2009, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
I think if he does die, then yes, we failed him.
IMO, I think the failure was letting it happen to begin with. Sorry to rain on your Obama parade.
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How in the hell can over a million square miles of ocean be effectively protected?
It's like trying to say the Police are failure because a house in town was broken into and they didn't prevent it from happening.
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04-12-2009, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
How in the hell can over a million square miles of ocean be effectively protected?
It's like trying to say the Police are failure because a house in town was broken into and they didn't prevent it from happening.
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FYI JD, a US flagged ship is only in one spot at a time.
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04-12-2009, 01:36 PM
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Registered Grandpa
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Captain free, prayers answered, Seals had their way.
Look forward to the details.
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" Choose Life "
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04-12-2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
FYI JD, a US flagged ship is only in one spot at a time.
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So are you saying you want our tax dollars to be used to provide escorts for ships owned by private sector shipping companies......yeah like you guys wouldn't get fired up over in the political forum over that. 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-12-2009, 04:06 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Fiscal yr 2008 US aid to Somalia was $319 million. Cancel those checks right now and put it towards the naval efforts. I do not want a single boot on Somali soil. Got to shut down the entire economy that supports the pirate industry. Much of it is businesses, like restaurants, set up by the pirates with their booty, to support the pirate operation.
Excellent work by all parties in the rescue. (now if the press would stop publishing the minute details.... for the pirates to review and prepare for next time...) But you gotta like the odds of a Marine sniper with a 35yd. shot.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-12-2009, 04:22 PM
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From one of the retired generals on CNN;
Fixing Somalia is a 10-15 year project. Fixing the piracy problem is something that can be done in the near term....
Yup.    "appropriate force"
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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04-12-2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So are you saying you want our tax dollars to be used to provide escorts for ships owned by private sector shipping companies......yeah like you guys wouldn't get fired up over in the political forum over that. 
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Thank you. He's the first person to bitch about tax dollars being wasted, but he wants Navy escorts for every US Flagged ship near Somalia?
I'm glad they killed 3 of the pirates. Make an example out of them. This is exactly what I wanted to happen.
According to all the whiners, Obama was going to chat with the pirates and see how he can redistribute the wealthy's money so the pirates could stop with their pirating. However, the order to send in the Seals would have to have been approved by Obama.
Last edited by JohnnyD; 04-12-2009 at 05:40 PM..
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04-12-2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Thank you. He's the first person to bitch about tax dollars being wasted, but he wants Navy escorts for every US Flagged ship near Somalia?
I'm glad they killed 3 of the pirates. Make an example out of them. This is exactly what I wanted to happen.
According to all the whiners, Obama was going to chat with the pirates and see how he can redistribute the wealthy's money so the pirates could stop with their pirating. However, the order to send in the Seals would have to have been approved by Obama.
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I'm willing to bet the rescue was not done on the cheap. And yes. I want our defense $$$ spent on protecting AMERICAN interests abroad. I won't bitch a peep.
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