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04-13-2009, 08:33 PM
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Location: Libtardia
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04-13-2009, 11:19 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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I think it looks GREAT....and will definitely consider giving mine a face-lift in the future, ..... 
However, based on why you say you did it....you'd have been better off putting that $200 bucks toward a future VS. The 704 would have still worked the same without the make-over,,, but I'm not your shrink..........AND... I still LIKE it......a LOT!...... |
 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-14-2009, 01:15 AM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
Posts: 1,159
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Originally Posted by bloocrab
However, based on why you say you did it....you'd have been better off putting that $200 bucks toward a future VS.
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i got very impatient up here at school with no reel to look at and decided to just pull the trigger early  very bad excuse/ reasoning lol. but, oh well, make some dollars over the summer and get one for the fall run  |
"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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04-14-2009, 06:40 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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nah, don't rush into further debt....be patient, keep life in order and enjoy your NEW 704 !
It's a reliable reel and with the new face lift, the fish will be fooled that you have a VS and will bite more often.... 
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... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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04-14-2009, 07:29 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Hey Mike, that's a sweet setup. As an old B*&^TD who has fished 704's and 06's for 40 years I can honestly say I love them. I had a VS 250 for 3 years. Great reel. Sold it and when back to my old standby 704 and don't regret it. VS are nice but 704's get the job done and "airation" can only help. Plus I took the $550 I sold the VS for and bought a dandy color Garmin GPS for the boat.
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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04-14-2009, 08:10 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Originally Posted by maddog2020
Sorry - I'm gonna rain on your parade. 
Waste of time & $ IMHO. All those holes do is weaken the cast aluminum pot metal. I LMAO every time I see the "Van Penns". Drilling holes to save weight is an even BIGGER joke. To help get the sand out is a little more valid, but over kill...
Penn's drag isn't waterproof nor is anything else on the reel. Sorry - I just don't get it. 
Hey - some one has to speak some truth. I have no agenda and I'm not paid to promote any one's product. I just tell it like it is.
I like to use my older Penn spinfisher reels without any modifications and have MONO on the spools. I still like fiberglass rods even thought 90% of my rods are graphite or graphite blends. Bucktail jigs catch a lot of fish and STILL work once the paint is chipped off.  Live eels always seem to catch larger and more fish than any lures I have ever used... |
Hi Ray - 
Very well said all the way around - I just didn't want to be the first grumpy old phart to say it, that's all...I'm trying to rehabilitate my reputation as a cantankerous coot... 
Hey, good seeing ya around these parts - if ya get special dispensation from the boss and get a chance to get down this way, give me a shout - remember the place where the eels worked - well, they still work there last time I checked...
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Originally Posted by piemma
Hey Mike, that's a sweet setup. As an old B*&^TD who has fished 704's and 06's for 40 years I can honestly say I love them. I had a VS 250 for 3 years. Great reel. Sold it and when back to my old standby 704 and don't regret it. VS are nice but 704's get the job done and "airation" can only help. Plus I took the $550 I sold the VS for and bought a dandy color Garmin GPS for the boat.
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I dunno, Paul...you're making too much sense...obviously another old guy... 
Hey, Gunpowder - I don't think anyone's bustin' ya - that's a real sweet looking job on the Penn... 
704's and 706's are like old M-1's - simple, bullet-proof and you can field strip them with a pocket knife if you have to - and I have
I always like to see Penns tricked out, always reminds me of old custom Harleys, American classics - I've got a dozen or so of them but one of my favorites is still the chromed 704 that was given to me by Habs, I'm getting it re-chromed for this season - got my personal best on it from shore so it's got some mojo on it -
If I can find the pix, I'll post them
Enjoy your Penn, man...
Here's another tricked out 704 I thought was well done - looks like it was anodized
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 04-14-2009 at 08:17 AM..
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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04-14-2009, 08:24 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,825
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Chuck, that reel is beautiful.
BTW, hope to splash the boat Friday. Get ready brother!!
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No boat, back in the suds.
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04-14-2009, 08:09 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern RI
Posts: 383
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Originally Posted by Rockport24
I fish penns (bought them right before they stopped being made in the US)
although I don't dunk them regularly, they have been dunked on many occasions and I've never had an issue, I rinse them off and take them to surfland to be serviced maybe once every couple of years!
Those 704's are supposed to be bulletproof anyway, so drilling them probably makes them more so because the water just has more chances to escape before getting in there are screwing the reel up.
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I pretty much agree. I don't treat my 704z or 706z reels any differently than my VS200. I think I have a bit more confidence in the VS, but my first VS broke... had to be rebuilt. Never had that happen with the Penns.
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Originally Posted by maddog2020
Sorry - I'm gonna rain on your parade.
Waste of time & $ IMHO. All those holes do is weaken the cast aluminum pot metal. I LMAO every time I see the "Van Penns". Drilling holes to save weight is an even BIGGER joke. To help get the sand out is a little more valid, but over kill. Few years back I posted (on SOL) how much weight each hole would save in a certain size range.
Penn's drag isn't waterproof nor is anything else on the reel. Sorry - I just don't get it.
Van Staal & Zeebaas are machine from SOLID pieces of aluminum. Big difference in strength AND cost. For what a VS costs they should wind line better than they do (seems like larger sizes are OK, many of the smaller ones are coned real bad!). At least the ZB winds the line on evenly.
Hey - some one has to speak some truth. I have no agenda and I'm not paid to promote any one's product. I just tell it like it is.
I like to use my older Penn spinfisher reels without any modifications and have MONO on the spools. I still like fiberglass rods even thought 90% of my rods are graphite or graphite blends. Bucktail jigs catch a lot of fish and STILL work once the paint is chipped off. Live eels always seem to catch larger and more fish than any lures I have ever used. Don't get me wrong, I love using PowerPro and Fireline on the newer buttery smooth by Shimano, Daiwa & etc.
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I have a rod rack on the hood of my truck and when I drive into my yard there is a hose right there and I thoroughly rinse everything before I even walk up the steps. Having the reel rotor drilled is a great advantage when rinsing... it also allows a wave to pass through quickly and not leave a bunch of crap trapped. I do agree that too much drilling on a Penn does weaken it, but just enough to allow for flushing is an improvement and I don't think it weakens the rotor enough to have it be any more susceptible to failure than stock. Admittedly the drags aren't water proof, but so far it hasn't caused a problem. Packing with blue marine grease is what I do also.
As for weight saving... just not of any importance.
Also I use my Penns with Fireline 30lb and they spool the stuff fine.
Truth is, I only own a VS because I spent an hour or so with Steve McKenna and decided I had some reels I had bought very reasonably and if I sold them I could get enough cash to grab a VS200. I paid $550 for the VS NIB. I had about $325 into the reels and sold them for quite a bit more than I paid for the VS. So it made sense to give the VS a shot. Would I spend $650 to own one knowing that I have 3 706Zs and a converted 704Z that are all working great and doing everything I ask of them.... NOPE. I'm not saying they aren't worth it... just not worth it to me.
As for the ZB at $1000, well in the words of the great bowler, Jesus Quintana..."Laughable, man. Laughable." As I say, that's for me in my financial reality and my fishing habits.
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04-14-2009, 05:33 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Its like putting this M5 badge:
On a Yugo. 
But hey by any means possible whatever gets it done for ya. |
Domination takes full concentration..
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04-14-2009, 11:45 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
Its like putting this M5 badge:
On a Yugo.
But hey by any means possible whatever gets it done for ya. |
Hey Vic - I always figured a Beemer and a VS had one thing in common - they're mostly used to make up for other...uhhhh... personal short-comings, if ya get my drift... ... ....
Hell, I know one short-peckered bastage who swears by VS... 
No doubt they're both confidence builders - but neither one automatically guarantees a longer Johnson or a longer fish... |
"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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04-20-2009, 09:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: People's Republic
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Originally Posted by Nebe
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Those workers are way too old. Divide their ages by 3 or 4 for a more accurate photo. |
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