White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by spence

We already have a "public option" for million of people, so the notion that this is something new isn't very accurate.

Obama hasn't been able to articulate how the public option won't help costs at the expense of the free market, so to take it off the table isn't a big surprise.

That being said...Right now I'm trying to get Cigna to pay 225 dollars for something they told my wife over the phone was covered, but now say is isn't.

Aside from some meaningless appeals I have little recourse...

All the while the CEO is earning 30 Million+

And people think there's nothing wrong with our system?

-spence

See Spence, thats the beauty of the free enterprise system we have now,, Cigna screws you over, you can switch to Blue cross or whoever.... with his plan eventually you wouldnt have that option...

Yes there are problems with the way it is now,,, but making it worse will not make it better... making it bigger will not make it cheaper... making it free to everyone that cant afford it,,, cant reduce costs... and penalizing rich will not fund the "change" they will take their $$ elsewhere... If you like socialized medicine, I believe Rush mentioned on his show Friday, he would pay for your flight to Canada if you legally changed your residence to Canada, so you could use their wonderful health care program....

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

See Spence, thats the beauty of the free enterprise system we have now,, Cigna screws you over, you can switch to Blue cross or whoever.... with his plan eventually you wouldnt have that option...

Actually, in this case it was dental insurance and I didn't have a choice as it was the only plan offered by my employer.

If you like socialized medicine, I believe Rush mentioned on his show Friday, he would pay for your flight to Canada if you legally changed your residence to Canada, so you could use their wonderful health care program....

Nobody has proposed socializing the entire system, and as I mentioned before we already have a hybrid social system. Additionally, from what I gather the health care in Canada and the UK aren't that bad. Most people's opinions have been formed by years of misinformation and rhetoric.

-spence

[Karl F]

Originally Posted by spence

Most people's opinions have been formed by years of misinformation and rhetoric.

-spence

Wow, perfect... and also an accurate, one sentence description, of the Political Forum

THAT...should be the disclaimer, upon entrance into this Forum!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Additionally, from what I gather the health care in Canada and the UK aren't that bad. -spence

Overhauling health-care system tops agenda at annual meeting of Canada's doctors
By Jennifer Graham (CP) – 1 day ago

SASKATOON — The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says this country's health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.

Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country - who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting - recognize that changes must be made.

"We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," Doing said in an interview with The Canadian Press.

[spence]

And your point is? People seem to think we have the best system on the planet and it's imploding as well.

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

Most people's opinions have been formed by years of misinformation and rhetoric. -spence

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...ck-s-operation

Bow to the journalistic integrity of Glen beck!!!
But, Canada sucks..