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Old 10-03-2009, 11:10 AM   #1
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I see, so I guess that invalidates the entire commentary.

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Old 10-03-2009, 11:33 AM   #2
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I see you're not an advocate of quantum theory.

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Old 10-03-2009, 12:55 PM   #3
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I see you're not an advocate of quantum theory.

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I see by your avatar that you are. And a pseudo-postmodernist as well.
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Old 10-03-2009, 02:03 PM   #4
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I see by your avatar that you are. And a pseudo-postmodernist as well.
I think that some postmodernist thinking can be very beneficial to understanding complex things, or coming to a better understanding of absolutes - which should be applied judiciously.

As Obi wan said, "only Sith believe in absolutes."

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Old 10-03-2009, 08:39 PM   #5
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I think that some postmodernist thinking can be very beneficial to understanding complex things, or coming to a better understanding of absolutes - which should be applied judiciously.

As Obi wan said, "only Sith believe in absolutes."

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Hmmm. Might be a contradiction between your postmodernist self and your quantum theory self. The postmodernist side is very beneficial to understanding absolutes, but your quantum theory side cannot achieve absolute certainty because of Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty.

BTW, has the postmodernist in you tackled the deconstruction of quantum theory? That would be a spectacular contribution to the philosophy of science.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:13 AM   #6
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Hmmm. Might be a contradiction between your postmodernist self and your quantum theory self. The postmodernist side is very beneficial to understanding absolutes, but your quantum theory side cannot achieve absolute certainty because of Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty.
Actually, it's just the opposite.

Quantum theory stipulates that particles can be in more than one place at one time, or even disappear and reappear somewhere else. This "uncertainty" is critical for modeling the relativism of morality

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BTW, has the postmodernist in you tackled the deconstruction of quantum theory? That would be a spectacular contribution to the philosophy of science.
And make for some really, REALLY whack artwork in the process.

If I had the brainpower I'd be all over it.

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Old 10-05-2009, 10:03 AM   #7
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Actually, it's just the opposite.

Quantum theory stipulates that particles can be in more than one place at one time, or even disappear and reappear somewhere else. This "uncertainty" is critical for modeling the relativism of morality -spence
It is also the model for unraveling concepts such as "balance of nature" or even such things as a perfectly balanced eco-system. It is probably critical for modeling evolution. Quantum theory can probably explain why things constantly evolve rather than idylically staying the same. Even your avatar didn't like the "uncertainty" inserted into quantum theory and tried to disprove it. He said that God doesn't play dice with the universe. Interesting that he doesn't seem to have stated any opinions on evolution. I kinda think he didn't like that either. Maybe he has commented on it. I'm not well-versed on his bio.

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