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Originally Posted by Nebe
McKenna told me that the last 2 years were worse for him than durring the moratorium years!!!
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Some people are a creature of habbit, certain people wiegh in fish and you know exactly where they are caught, some fish the same spots, year after year... ADAPT!
I have the most respect for Steve, even had the pleasure of fishing with him years ago on Block.... I may be wrong but I dont think he even fished nearly as much these past two years as he has in the past....
How was Narragansett bay late May early June this past year? Many of the coms were doing 50 plus fish a trip, fighting through that many smaller fish to get their legal fish. There were Pogies everywhere as where the Bass. What happened when the netters decimated the Pogies and after al the heavy rain we had. The Pogies disapeared, as did the bass...
If I commercially fished where I caught my limits in say 05, 06, 07 in 08 and 09 I would have packed it in and called it quits... Patterns change, sometimes every year, every other year, every two years, every five, every decade, or so on...
Point is you can fish the same areas year after year and hope that the fish come to you, but if you want to consistantly catch you gotta go to the fish..... I have to admit, I am not the least sorry for those guys that bitch about the driving or walking... They want the fish in their back yard... Im sorry, but sometime Its called laziness.... Like I really enjoy sleepin in my truck 4, 7, 10, 14, 18 days .. Did it off the surf and do it now, off the boat... How about the bait runs.... Its more work getting bait nowadays vs the fishing! I used to laugh when the guys bitched about how long and a horrible walk Napatree is, Or guys fishing the Back beaches on the cape, But only where they can drive in missing the suicidal bites 1/4, 1/2, 1 mile down the beach... There is hundreds of miles of coastline where you can catch a fish on any given day... Im sorry, I hate it too, but it may require some driving or some walking!
We had some of the best years go by us these last few, some would say they were the worst for them...
Has block Island ever returned to what it was in the 80's in the late fall, November?? NO...Just talk to Dennis Zambrotta, Al Pelini, and so on ... But the summers have been spectacular...
Has the Cape returned to what it was just a decade ago? NO and probably wont for some time... Talk to some of the Best there Like Tony Stetzko... I just talked to him the other day... He knows where the fish are.. OFFSHORE. I would love to go back to the surf on the cape and have the fishing we used to have. We talked about what variables you had then, and what we have now.. Heck what bait did they have in the surf when they had all those big bodies of fish in the 80's...
I spoke with DJ Muller a few days ago... He had a great season off the Surf, from NJ to MV... Had a great fall down here off the NJ Coast...
We used to enjoy a great fishery here in NJ all summer long, I used to head out any given night and bail fish with rigged eels off Jetty country... Also not a soul in site.... July, Aug, and Sept. Its a thing of the past, has been for about 15 years... Our late falls, November and December were legendary, The tip of the hook produced some monsters, guys from LI would come to the hook... It never came back, in almost 30 years... Funny, you can ask most of the surfrats in NJ if the fishing is in decline and they will look at you as if you are Crazy, just look at whats wieghed in NJ in the Spring, they had the best few springs ever...
Ahh.... What about Oregon Inlet, NC, in December, January... Geez, those beach runs to Hatteras were awesome... What happened the last few years??? didnt happen to have anything to do with sub 40 degree surf temps and no bait... Can you imagine, the bodies of bait and fish 30+ Miles OFFSHORE of NC VA?? Who would to think?? Surfcasters can stay on the sand and huff and puff.... Cant change mother nature, no matter what....
The surf runs have been bad in the summer and fall in Rhode island and Mass, but the surf runs have been the best ever here off the NJ coast the last 4 year or so, accounting for some real pigs... was the other way around just 5,6,7,8,9 years ago....
We can debate this all you want... Surf Books had Striped Bass as the 1000 Hour fish... People have gotten spoiled, striped bass has been so commercialized and so many more people are fishing now than before. They expect to catch every time they go out...Some people bitchin, are the ones that did articles on exact spots, commercialized and wrote about their techniques and so on... I gotta tell you, sometimes you have to change more than just where you fish but also how you fish.... seen it from the West Jetty of Moriches, Block, Vineyard, Cutty, Napatree, Watch Hill, I can go on.
My local area we had a boom of charter Captains, not that Im an old timer or anything, just that not to long ago anybody good get a boat, charter, and make some $$$... I like a challenge, I want it tough, maybe gets some people off the water..... Everybody seems to want it easy... There are way more surf fishermen, charter captains, boat fisherman tageting striped bass than just 10 years ago.... Guess we need to settle back to reality, we are sharing these fish with way more people..
The Giant Bluefin never returned off the Jersey Coast, whos Bitchin'??
What about the whiting off the surf, the cod???
Im done wasting a single other minute on these boards listening to people crying over how bad the fishing is and where the fish are and blah, blah...
Steve mckenna may have had is worst year ever, but many had their best.....
Funny how when there is no fish around I, and others I know, could still average 600 plus pounds a commercial day??? I could put clients on my boat and the fish are stacked and they wont get a hit, sometimes the smallest thing could make a difference, and they want get a touch until something is pointed out...point is when its tough not everyone can catch.... The comm guys from the vineyard said that this was the best com season they ever had... What about all the weight that came in from cape cod this year??
The Same Surf Guys were succesfull this year and every year, Why???? This year might not have been as "Easy" as years past and they had to adapt, travel, to be succesfull....
I know there is no fish.... Give up, quit fishing...Its Fishing, not Catching... requires some work and effort... One of the worst things that gets my blood boiling is a miserable, negative attitude - It accounts for zero or minimal success....
Sometimes you cant fight mother nature... How are you going to bring fish up on the beach if there is no bait???? Seems the majority of the people complaining are surfcasters, primarily in Mass and RI, because the fish are not on the beach like they were some years. Everyday cant be like cutty this past June.. Those big bodies of fish need the bait to sustain them.... As far as this armegedon of striped bass, Maybe 12-21-12 the last striped bass will be caught??? There is way to much Gloom and Doom on this board....
I just dont think The McKenna Barometer means the end is near.... PANIC!
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