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02-08-2010, 03:04 PM
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Location: Union,NJ
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Sorry, I just can't see how anyone on here can believe these fish are near extinction??? What cause people can't catch 40-50 bass a trip every single day??? I mean there are days it's no problem but really... Every single day??? I should of never bought that new boat knowing the end was near and I should stop fishing for hire or money so there could be more easy to catch striped bass in the ocean! Get rid of the illegal poaching in Va an Nc that is so obvious. You can't compare that to sw ledge or the sub bouy, millions of pounds are poached where the fish are supposed to be protected. A closed area!! Why go after the guys that fish legit???
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Last edited by CowHunter; 02-08-2010 at 03:13 PM..
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02-08-2010, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 97
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So where do you think this is headed as the millions of average anglers begin to recognize that they are "getting" maybe 20% of the overall quota (commercial 55% per the technical comittee report/Charter say 25%) and that number is dropping fast?
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I still don't believe that 55% commercial figure....just as you don't believe what I'm saying...as someone else mentioned in this thread, it can all be massaged to what our indivudual bias is.
I will reiterate, the coastwide commercial quota is mostly coming from the net fishery in the Chesapeake -check the quota numbers out here-
http://www.asmfc.org/speciesDocument...BassRegs08.pdf
6,432,727 lbs comes from DE,MD,PRFC,VI,NC, NY (mostly net fishery)
239,299 lbs from RI (145, 972 from R&R, the rest from the trap fishery)
1,107,485 lbs MA, hook & line
.........so now, according to what you have stated, 55 % of the striped bass mortality is coming from the commercial fishery-
7,779,511 lbs....so that means 3,500,780 lbs of fish are being killed by recreational (including charter/headboat) fisherman up and down the east coast? By "millions" of average anglers?? I think its alot more than that.....
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02-08-2010, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Originally Posted by jmac
I still don't believe that 55% commercial figure....just as you don't believe what I'm saying...as someone else mentioned in this thread, it can all be massaged to what our indivudual bias is.
I will reiterate, the coastwide commercial quota is mostly coming from the net fishery in the Chesapeake -check the quota numbers out here-
http://www.asmfc.org/speciesDocument...BassRegs08.pdf
6,432,727 lbs comes from DE,MD,PRFC,VI,NC, NY (mostly net fishery)
239,299 lbs from RI (145, 972 from R&R, the rest from the trap fishery)
1,107,485 lbs MA, hook & line
.........so now, according to what you have stated, 55 % of the striped bass mortality is coming from the commercial fishery-
7,779,511 lbs....so that means 3,500,780 lbs of fish are being killed by recreational (including charter/headboat) fisherman up and down the east coast? By "millions" of average anglers?? I think its alot more than that.....
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I don't know about most of the states you listed but NY is about 50%-50% between R&R and Gillnets.
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02-08-2010, 07:25 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Originally Posted by jmac
I still don't believe that 55% commercial figure....just as you don't believe what I'm saying...as someone else mentioned in this thread, it can all be massaged to what our indivudual bias is.
.........so now, according to what you have stated, 55 % of the striped bass mortality is coming from the commercial fishery-
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Please, jmac, it is not what I stated. It is what the ASMFC technical committee stated in the link you provided. Whether it is right or not, I can't say. I'll bet a plug, however, the ASMFC choses to ignore the technical committee's report on this issue and decides not to adjust their estimated recreational catch statistics downward by 70%. Any takers?
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