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Old 04-10-2010, 10:12 AM   #1
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The bottom line is, you are no longer entitled to The American Dream, work hard, make money, buy 2 houses, nice cars, maybe a boat if your real greedy. There are needy, lazy, stupid people who are entitled to your money.
The list of entitlements grows, the list of people to fund it shrinks. Yup, that should work.
the Collectivists are at war with the Individualists in America,...which essentially means that they are at war with the founding principles of America...and have been for about a hundred years

clearly the democrats believe that massive debt and massive dependence is a winning strategy for success for our nation...I hope they run on that in November

this is well stated..."the one thing that limits capitalism, is all the socialism.
Instead of capitalism continuing forward, everything went sideways with the rise of socialism.
This ideological, and criminal detour of capitalism and free-markets, is directly responsible
for the inestimable financial mess we find ourselves in today. It's socialism's 100 years war.
These same socially-conscious, warrior elites have been lying about capitalism for that long.
Capitalism isn't stealing from anybody. On the other hand, socialism is stealing from everybody.
Ideological theft, though well intentioned, is still theft. The Left thrives on societal theft.
Capitalism is the engine that allows these socialist do-gooders to spread the wealth around in the first place.
Without capitalism, there is no socialism."
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Old 04-10-2010, 10:55 AM   #2
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the Collectivists are at war with the Individualists in America,...which essentially means that they are at war with the founding principles of America...and have been for about a hundred years
So you pretty much just regurgitate whatever Glenn Beck says huh?
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:17 AM   #3
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So you pretty much just regurgitate whatever Glenn Beck says huh?
C'mon JD. Glenn Beck is not the originator of these ideas. The battle between collectivism and individualism is ancient. Whether those specific words are used or not does not define that battle. Of course, we do not as individuals, stand alone. We unite, as individuals, to preserve the core of freedom that was created by our Founders and made law by the Constitution. We can choose to diminish that core and hand over more and more responsibility (required for freedom) to a central government, or we can resist. Which do you choose?
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:26 AM   #4
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C'mon JD. Glenn Beck is not the originator of these ideas.
Perhaps, the understatement of the entire thread

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The battle between collectivism and individualism is ancient. Whether those specific words are used or not does not define that battle. Of course, we do not as individuals, stand alone. We unite, as individuals, to preserve the core of freedom that was created by our Founders and made law by the Constitution. We can choose to diminish that core and hand over more and more responsibility (required for freedom) to a central government, or we can resist. Which do you choose?
Of course, we must unite to maintain our individuality.

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Perhaps, the understatement of the entire thread


Of course, we must unite to maintain our individuality.

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Yes we must unite as individuals each responsible for our own share of that unity. If we give over our personal responsibilty to the larger group to do for us what is required, as an individual, to do for ourself, we are less of an individual and more of a groupie. If more and more choose the way of the groupie, the "unity" becomes a collective dependant on the few for support and "individualism" will be scorned, seen as an unachievable trick of the selfish.

See, we agree again.
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So you pretty much just regurgitate whatever Glenn Beck says huh?
none of what I stated is referencing Glen Beck...but JD..if you are going to accuse me of intellectual laziness, you shouldn't do so with such and intellectually lazy quip
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