Arizona alien law will hold....

[Fly Rod]

[QUOTE=spence;765348]

The police are either going to take a ton of heat for profiling (and harassing) US citizens, or they're going to be gun shy and the bill won't help anyway.


The police will not be profiling. Your president when speaking to the people of this country on national TV the other day made sure to leave out that in the Arizona law that a cop can not just stop you because your Mexican. They must stop you for some other violation such as speeding, running a red light, not using your turn signal, robbing a bank before they can ask you for your legal papers or green card.

The law is like the seat belt law, can't be stopped just for not wearing your seat belt. So you just can't be stopped because you are Mexican, Hispanic, Brazilian etc:.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

The police will not be profiling. Your president when speaking to the people of this country on national TV the other day made sure to leave out that in the Arizona law that a cop can not just stop you because your Mexican. They must stop you for some other violation such as speeding, running a red light, not using your turn signal, robbing a bank before they can ask you for your legal papers or green card.

The law is like the seat belt law, can't be stopped just for not wearing your seat belt. So you just can't be stopped because you are Mexican, Hispanic, Brazilian etc:.

Hmmm... it was my understanding that "reasonable suspicion" is all that police need. Do you have a link? If you're right, it further invalidates the opponents arguments.

[Swimmer]

We use reasonable suspicion everyday. The lawbreakers understand it completely and the people we mistakenly talk to understand it also when we are investigating a crime. We explain ourselves, appologize and go on our way, (insert the stupid cop story here). The "illegal" people are just trying their case/problem in the court of public concern. I once was in court standing adjacent to a trooper who was asked at at sidebar hearing by the publically appointed attorney asked the trooper if he gave/read the brazilian guy his rights. Trooper said no I didn't. I don't have too. He is not a citizen of this country. I let him use the phone, but said nothing else to him. With that the trooper stated verbatim the first paragraph of the constitution. The judge got up and siad I have to think about this for a little while, I'll be right back.

Judge came back and said while the trooper was probably right we'll give the guy a break.

[buckman]

[QUOTE=Fly Rod;765419]

Originally Posted by spence

The police are either going to take a ton of heat for profiling (and harassing) US citizens, or they're going to be gun shy and the bill won't help anyway.


The police will not be profiling. Your president when speaking to the people of this country on national TV the other day made sure to leave out that in the Arizona law that a cop can not just stop you because your Mexican. They must stop you for some other violation such as speeding, running a red light, not using your turn signal, robbing a bank before they can ask you for your legal papers or green card.

The law is like the seat belt law, can't be stopped just for not wearing your seat belt. So you just can't be stopped because you are Mexican, Hispanic, Brazilian etc:.

All true.... but why let the truth get in the way