girl solo sailor epibs went off this AM

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by likwid

People lose their lives doing all kinds of things, hell even crossing the street, nevermind sitting infront of the TV getting fat and never doing anything with their life and having their heart go on revolt.

You DON'T have a point because you cannot put yourself into her shoes or anyone elses. You live in a little world that things need to be "safe" and "secure" where things are served to you in appropriate portions and nothing bad ever happens.

Thats not living.

My last post on this thread...

"You live in a little world that things need to be "safe" and "secure" where things are served to you in appropriate portions and nothing bad ever happens. "

Let's see, I did 2 combat tours in Iraq with the USMC as the CO of a weapons company. I've been in for-real combat, and I lost 2 kids under my command. I bet I know ALMOST AS WELL AS YOU, that bad things do happen.

In fact, it's precisely because I know that bad things happen, that I see no reason to go begging for trouble. Children's lives are about the most precious thing I can imagine, I don't see the value in risking it for a bit of notoriety.

I also don't like it when someone insults me right off the bat, then has the hutzpah to tell me I have no right to judge others, just because you know you don't have the logical ability to defend your position.

[likwid]

Don't worry, I called my parents and let them know they should be in jail for child abuse due to letting me and my sister do alot of things that most people would consider "abusive and dumb".

Fishing Woods Hole when I was 15 in a RIB by myself after dark for one.

(Note: I did have a handheld vhf, knew how to use it, and how to call properly, unlike most d**kwagons on the water these days three times the age)

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by likwid

Don't worry, I called my parents and let them know they should be in jail for child abuse due to letting me and my sister do alot of things that most people would consider "abusive and dumb".

Fishing Woods Hole when I was 15 in a RIB by myself after dark for one.

(Note: I did have a handheld vhf, knew how to use it, and how to call properly, unlike most d**kwagons on the water these days three times the age)

Sorry, I can't resist.

You criticize me for not knowing what it takes to sail across the world solo (and I admitted I had no such knowledge). And then you (the self-proclaimed maritime expert) compare THAT RISK to fishing in Woods Hole at night in a RIB? That's comparable to sailing around the southern tip of Africa in the winter? Really?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Sorry, I can't resist.

You criticize me for not knowing what it takes to sail across the world solo (and I admitted I had no such knowledge). And then you (the self-proclaimed maritime expert) compare THAT RISK to fishing in Woods Hole at night in a RIB? That's comparable to sailing around the southern tip of Africa in the winter? Really?

Aren't we discussing parental responsibility? Thats what YOU said we were discussing, not offshore ability.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Let's see, I did 2 combat tours in Iraq with the USMC as the CO of a weapons company. I've been in for-real combat, and I lost 2 kids under my command.
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Give it up. Likwid's mother is a hotshot sailor and likwid himself fished WH in the dark! Why would you think he could learn anything about responsibility for other's lives from someone as inexperienced as you?

[likwid]

Apparently along side this girl's attempt (and MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have had ANYTHING to do with HER decision to make the attempt) was the father trying to make a buck off this.

Thats directly from the SoCal sailing scene, please be sure to note the stuff in parentheses. I know, its difficult to not just revert to thinking this is politics, but read it all with a grain of salt please.

But most non-coddled 16yo's would tell a parent to go f*** themselves if they weren't prepared to do something.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by likwid

But most non-coddled 16yo's would tell a parent to go f*** themselves if they weren't prepared to do something.

In which case a responsible parent would take away their $500,000 sailboat for a month.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Give it up. Likwid's mother is a hotshot sailor and likwid himself fished WH in the dark! Why would you think he could learn anything about responsibility for other's lives from someone as inexperienced as you?

LMAO numbskull, hope I can buy you a beer one day...

[Nebe]

her new boat has been chosen.

[MAC]

I've sat back watching this thread from the start. I can appreciate both sides of the arguement. I do lean more towards Numby and Jims side though.

My question; Are her parents going to pay for a rescue if needed on another attempt ? Through her families own admission rescue crews were dispatched from 3 continents..... Wonder what the combined cost was ? 10 million ?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by MAC

I've sat back watching this thread from the start. I can appreciate both sides of the arguement. I do lean more towards Numby and Jims side though.

My question; Are her parents going to pay for a rescue if needed on another attempt ? Through her families own admission rescue crews were dispatched from 3 continents..... Wonder what the combined cost was ? 10 million ?

Couple hundred grand covered by insurance.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by likwid

Couple hundred grand covered by insurance.

Maybe so, but the response just sounds so cavalier.....I mean, just when have you gotten an Airbus fueled up and told them "don't worry, I have insurance...." Insurance companies are exactly known as the fastest paying outfits around. It's not like they have a regulated "settlement" timeframe like the securities industry does for their transactions. And let's not forget the men and or women who went out there or altered course and missions to assist.


(Damn.... I was doing so well at not getting baited back into this thread, too.....)