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[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

I thought you were smarter than that, Spence. It's not about where it's bought, it's about where it's used. It's called a sales and use tax. You can buy a car in NH where there's no sales tax, but if you want to register it in the state you live, you pay the tax on it. If Mr. Heinz wants to use his boat in MA, which coincidentally is where he lives, he should register it in MA. Do you really think he's going to only use the boat out of Newport?

It looks like the boat is being used as a charter for a good part of the year, in which case being based in Newport would have many business advantages...LIKE LOWER TAXES.

Hell, this was probably written into the original purchase contract...

P.S. I'm still pretty damn smart.

-spence

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

It looks like the boat is being used as a charter for a good part of the year, in which case being based in Newport would have many business advantages...LIKE LOWER TAXES.

Hell, this was probably written into the original purchase contract...

P.S. I'm still pretty damn smart.

-spence

You must really be smart if you can determine that it's being used as a charter for "a good part of the year". The article mentions nothing about how much chartering the boat is doing. Or maybe it's just you making up stuff again and hoping you don't get called out on it.

I did hear he was seen at a Cape Cod store buying a sign that reads "The Poop Deck" to put on the door to one of the bathrooms on the boat. He also picked up an umbrella rig at a Cape tackle shop. Glad he's giving the business to local companies and is paying the tax for those items in his home state.

[FishermanTim]

I thought that in order for you to register a vehicle / boat that you had to be a resident of the state that you were registering it in?
If that were the case, then how could "Ketchup" Kerry be able to
"reside" in both states.

I have no problem with RI and their tax law. Heck, if it bring in the business, all the better.
But we're talking about a MA senator who "claims" he is working for the residents of the state, yet instead of "leading by example" and buying locally to help our state economy, he chose to go elsewhere.

It's a case of "Do what I say, not what I do"
Personally, I think he is a worthless POS living off his wife's $$ and his connection to the old Kennedy clan.
(Can anyone name anything he has done, or initiated in the past 2-5 years that didn't COST us $$?

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

You must really be smart if you can determine that it's being used as a charter for "a good part of the year". The article mentions nothing about how much chartering the boat is doing. Or maybe it's just you making up stuff again and hoping you don't get called out on it.

Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting. It makes no business sense to keep a boat like this just sitting around collecting barnacles. They might even be able to depreciate it if it made sense.

There's a big difference between Kerry berthing the yacht in RI "to avoid taxes" vs "not haveing to pay taxes as a result".

So far you've presented no evidence to the former while I have to the later.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting.
-spence

"employment"????

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting. It makes no business sense to keep a boat like this just sitting around collecting barnacles. They might even be able to depreciate it if it made sense.

There's a big difference between Kerry berthing the yacht in RI "to avoid taxes" vs "not haveing to pay taxes as a result".

So far you've presented no evidence to the former while I have to the later.

-spence

Should I just send you a box of straws so you can stop desperately grasping for them? If by limited, you mean most of the spring and summer, then I guess you're right. Are you saying that he has no time to sail because he's scheduled to be working 137 days this year? I also understand that he has some business that he has to attend to during the other 228 days out of the year, but I think he can probably use his boat more than the average working stiff.

And do you think there isn't someone to keep the barnacles off it when it's sitting for a few days? Your argument is like all of your other ones. It's weak and full of your own half baked speculation.

Next time, just type what you really think instead of tryng to play devil's advocate and making yourself look silly.

It's gotten to the point that you're really just becoming boring and I'm going to have to stop paying attention to you. You've hit tartan on the lamometer.

[basswipe]

There's no doubt Kerry is a cheap bastard...hell he's married to a Heinz!Of course he's avoiding taxes,you'd have to be a complete idiot to think he wasn't.

That being said any rich bastard that wants to moor/slip his boat in RI,why not?!More money for the maritime industry here in RI and many high paying seasonal jobs.There's a reason RI repealed the same idiotic taxes here,its made RI a paradise for rich yacht owners.

Maybe Kerry will invite Whitehouse out on Isabel and they can sail(and save!) the Bay together.

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Are you saying that he has no time to sail because he's scheduled to be working 137 days this year?

No, I'm saying that I highly doubt the time Kerry spends in Nantucket justifies keeping a gigantic yacht there. If he's really as greedy as people say you'd think he'd want that boat humping 24/7.

I also understand that he has some business that he has to attend to during the other 228 days out of the year, but I think he can probably use his boat more than the average working stiff.

I know a number of "average working stiff" types who boat pretty frequently. I'll bet you do as well...

And do you think there isn't someone to keep the barnacles off it when it's sitting for a few days? Your argument is like all of your other ones. It's weak and full of your own half baked speculation.

If you don't intend to charter the yacht then yes, rich people do keep crews to maintain the vessel when not in use.

In this case though, there's a public statement that the yacht is to be chartered.

Next time, just type what you really think instead of tryng to play devil's advocate and making yourself look silly.

I am simply assessing the known facts. It is you who's prejudging the situation. I'd rather look silly and be right, than, well...ok, you're probably going to look silly just about what ever your say

It's gotten to the point that you're really just becoming boring and I'm going to have to stop paying attention to you. You've hit tartan on the lamometer.

No, not the SPACEBALLS reference

ScottW, PLEASE HELP ME>>>>!!!!!

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

No, I'm saying that I highly doubt the time Kerry spends in Nantucket justifies keeping a gigantic yacht there. If he's really as greedy as people say you'd think he'd want that boat humping 24/7.


I know a number of "average working stiff" types who boat pretty frequently. I'll bet you do as well...


If you don't intend to charter the yacht then yes, rich people do keep crews to maintain the vessel when not in use.

In this case though, there's a public statement that the yacht is to be chartered.



I am simply assessing the known facts. It is you who's prejudging the situation. I'd rather look silly and be right, than, well...ok, you're probably going to look silly just about what ever your say


No, not the SPACEBALLS reference

ScottW, PLEASE HELP ME>>>>!!!!!

-spence

SPACEBALLS was a great movie! ...DARK HELMET....sir we've been "combing" the desert....great stuff!

[Raven]

what Flaptail said...........

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by spence

If you don't intend to charter the yacht then yes, rich people do keep crews to maintain the vessel when not in use.

In this case though, there's a public statement that the yacht is to be chartered.

I am simply assessing the known facts. It is you who's prejudging the situation. I look silly


ScottW, PLEASE HELP ME>>>>!!!!! I've come to the conclusion that I need help. I'm running out of thoughts that make no sense to try to confuse people here.!!!!!I'm lost!!!!

-spence

Hey Spence, I know I wasn't going to bother with responding to your drivel here, but I can't help myself. The boat is not a "charter boat", nor is it registered as such. You quoted a statement made by one of Kerry's spokespeople who had the facts wrong. So, in this case I guess you were the one "prejudging the situation". Maybe you should look into things before just assuming anything you read on the internet is the truth. Once again, Spence is wrong.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Hey Spence, I know I wasn't going to bother with responding to your drivel here, but I can't help myself. The boat is not a "charter boat", nor is it registered as such. You quoted a statement made by one of Kerry's spokespeople who had the facts wrong. So, in this case I guess you were the one "prejudging the situation". Maybe you should look into things before just assuming anything you read on the internet is the truth. Once again, Spence is wrong.

the unbelieveable arrogance that seems to permeate this particular class of politicians is really nauseating.....Kerry dismissive of any criticism....hey, Clintons...."feed a hungry child", and "the rich don't pay enough" and all of that... spending half a million on flowers for the multi-million dollar upcoming wedding, Obamas jetting everywhere living the highlife while America is in distress....make a list of the highranking dems, their rhetoric and their actions....they clearly have a very low opinion of the IQ of the average democrat....

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Hey Spence, I know I wasn't going to bother with responding to your drivel here, but I can't help myself. The boat is not a "charter boat", nor is it registered as such. You quoted a statement made by one of Kerry's spokespeople who had the facts wrong.

Do you have information that proves there's no intention to charter the boat?

So, in this case I guess you were the one "prejudging the situation". Maybe you should look into things before just assuming anything you read on the internet is the truth. Once again, Spence is wrong.

You're forming conclusions without adding any new information.

The Kerry spokesperson is on record stating that is one reason the boat is in RI. Unless there's contradictory info that would stand as possible, and quite rational justification.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting.
-spence

That has to be the funniest line on the internet !

Well done Spence, well done