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07-23-2010, 02:16 PM
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You must really be smart if you can determine that it's being used as a charter for "a good part of the year". The article mentions nothing about how much chartering the boat is doing. Or maybe it's just you making up stuff again and hoping you don't get called out on it.
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Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting. It makes no business sense to keep a boat like this just sitting around collecting barnacles. They might even be able to depreciate it if it made sense.
There's a big difference between Kerry berthing the yacht in RI "to avoid taxes" vs "not haveing to pay taxes as a result".
So far you've presented no evidence to the former while I have to the later.
-spence
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07-23-2010, 02:29 PM
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Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting.
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" employment"????   
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07-23-2010, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting. It makes no business sense to keep a boat like this just sitting around collecting barnacles. They might even be able to depreciate it if it made sense.
There's a big difference between Kerry berthing the yacht in RI "to avoid taxes" vs "not haveing to pay taxes as a result".
So far you've presented no evidence to the former while I have to the later.
-spence
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Should I just send you a box of straws so you can stop desperately grasping for them? If by limited, you mean most of the spring and summer, then I guess you're right.  Are you saying that he has no time to sail because he's scheduled to be working 137 days this year? I also understand that he has some business that he has to attend to during the other 228 days out of the year, but I think he can probably use his boat more than the average working stiff.
And do you think there isn't someone to keep the barnacles off it when it's sitting for a few days? Your argument is like all of your other ones. It's weak and full of your own half baked speculation.
Next time, just type what you really think instead of tryng to play devil's advocate and making yourself look silly.
It's gotten to the point that you're really just becoming boring and I'm going to have to stop paying attention to you. You've hit tartan on the lamometer.
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07-23-2010, 03:56 PM
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There's no doubt Kerry is a cheap bastard...hell he's married to a Heinz!Of course he's avoiding taxes,you'd have to be a complete idiot to think he wasn't.
That being said any rich bastard that wants to moor/slip his boat in RI,why not?!More money for the maritime industry here in RI and many high paying seasonal jobs.There's a reason RI repealed the same idiotic taxes here,its made RI a paradise for rich yacht owners.
Maybe Kerry will invite Whitehouse out on Isabel and they can sail(and save!) the Bay together. 
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07-23-2010, 05:16 PM
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Are you saying that he has no time to sail because he's scheduled to be working 137 days this year?
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No, I'm saying that I highly doubt the time Kerry spends in Nantucket justifies keeping a gigantic yacht there. If he's really as greedy as people say you'd think he'd want that boat humping 24/7.
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I also understand that he has some business that he has to attend to during the other 228 days out of the year, but I think he can probably use his boat more than the average working stiff.
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I know a number of "average working stiff" types who boat pretty frequently. I'll bet you do as well...
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And do you think there isn't someone to keep the barnacles off it when it's sitting for a few days? Your argument is like all of your other ones. It's weak and full of your own half baked speculation.
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If you don't intend to charter the yacht then yes, rich people do keep crews to maintain the vessel when not in use.
In this case though, there's a public statement that the yacht is to be chartered.
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Next time, just type what you really think instead of tryng to play devil's advocate and making yourself look silly.
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I am simply assessing the known facts. It is you who's prejudging the situation. I'd rather look silly and be right, than, well...ok, you're probably going to look silly just about what ever your say
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It's gotten to the point that you're really just becoming boring and I'm going to have to stop paying attention to you. You've hit tartan on the lamometer.
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No, not the SPACEBALLS reference  
ScottW, PLEASE HELP ME>>>>!!!!!
-spence
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07-23-2010, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
No, I'm saying that I highly doubt the time Kerry spends in Nantucket justifies keeping a gigantic yacht there. If he's really as greedy as people say you'd think he'd want that boat humping 24/7.
I know a number of "average working stiff" types who boat pretty frequently. I'll bet you do as well...
If you don't intend to charter the yacht then yes, rich people do keep crews to maintain the vessel when not in use.
In this case though, there's a public statement that the yacht is to be chartered.
I am simply assessing the known facts. It is you who's prejudging the situation. I'd rather look silly and be right, than, well...ok, you're probably going to look silly just about what ever your say
No, not the SPACEBALLS reference  
ScottW, PLEASE HELP ME>>>>!!!!!
-spence
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SPACEBALLS was a great movie!  ... DARK HELMET....sir we've been "combing" the desert   ....great stuff!
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07-23-2010, 06:10 PM
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what Flaptail said........... 
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07-27-2010, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
If you don't intend to charter the yacht then yes, rich people do keep crews to maintain the vessel when not in use.
In this case though, there's a public statement that the yacht is to be chartered.
I am simply assessing the known facts. It is you who's prejudging the situation. I look silly
ScottW, PLEASE HELP ME>>>>!!!!! I've come to the conclusion that I need help. I'm running out of thoughts that make no sense to try to confuse people here.!!!!!I'm lost!!!!
-spence
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Hey Spence, I know I wasn't going to bother with responding to your drivel here, but I can't help myself. The boat is not a "charter boat", nor is it registered as such. You quoted a statement made by one of Kerry's spokespeople who had the facts wrong. So, in this case I guess you were the one "prejudging the situation". Maybe you should look into things before just assuming anything you read on the internet is the truth. Once again, Spence is wrong.
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07-27-2010, 10:36 AM
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Hey Spence, I know I wasn't going to bother with responding to your drivel here, but I can't help myself. The boat is not a "charter boat", nor is it registered as such. You quoted a statement made by one of Kerry's spokespeople who had the facts wrong. So, in this case I guess you were the one "prejudging the situation". Maybe you should look into things before just assuming anything you read on the internet is the truth. Once again, Spence is wrong.
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the unbelieveable arrogance that seems to permeate this particular class of politicians is really nauseating.....Kerry dismissive of any criticism....hey, Clintons...."feed a hungry child", and "the rich don't pay enough" and all of that... spending half a million on flowers for the multi-million dollar upcoming wedding, Obamas jetting everywhere living the highlife while America is in distress....make a list of the highranking dems, their rhetoric and their actions....they clearly have a very low opinion of the IQ of the average democrat....
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07-27-2010, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Hey Spence, I know I wasn't going to bother with responding to your drivel here, but I can't help myself. The boat is not a "charter boat", nor is it registered as such. You quoted a statement made by one of Kerry's spokespeople who had the facts wrong.
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Do you have information that proves there's no intention to charter the boat?
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So, in this case I guess you were the one "prejudging the situation". Maybe you should look into things before just assuming anything you read on the internet is the truth. Once again, Spence is wrong.
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You're forming conclusions without adding any new information.
The Kerry spokesperson is on record stating that is one reason the boat is in RI. Unless there's contradictory info that would stand as possible, and quite rational justification.
-spence
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07-27-2010, 12:23 PM
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Do you have information that proves there's no intention to charter the boat?
You're forming conclusions without adding any new information.
The Kerry spokesperson is on record stating that is one reason the boat is in RI. Unless there's contradictory info that would stand as possible, and quite rational justification.
-spence
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Funny that you believe the spokesman. Are all spokespeople truthful all of the time? I didn't think you were that naive, but I stand corrected.
Oh, by the way. They don't do charters out of Portsmouth. None of the boats there are used for charters. You can call yourself and get this information. It's simple enough for even you to do. 
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07-27-2010, 06:11 PM
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Funny that you believe the spokesman. Are all spokespeople truthful all of the time? I didn't think you were that naive, but I stand corrected.
Oh, by the way. They don't do charters out of Portsmouth. None of the boats there are used for charters. You can call yourself and get this information. It's simple enough for even you to do. 
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How do you have to time to think up such crafty insults but none to research your arguments?
Give me a call and we can work on your prioritization skills.
And as for charter services out of Portsmouth...try Google.
-spence
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07-24-2010, 10:26 AM
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Given Kerry's employment he really has limited time for yachting.
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That has to be the funniest line on the internet !
Well done Spence, well done 
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