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08-23-2010, 06:39 AM
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Location: Rhode Island
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I think there's some prizes too.
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08-23-2010, 07:01 AM
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Location: Duxbury
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I bet the dragger discards dwarf the rec vs commercial mortality issue.
hundreds of thousands of lbs wasted
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-Andrew
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08-23-2010, 07:06 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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And camaraderie 
Anyway. We do have some serious issues to be concerned with and to adddress before this becomes a crash. We're not there yet and a crash can certainly be avoided.
What we have:
A biomass with a declining but still in ASMFC's healthy range.
A less overall rec take down since 2004 though increasing.
A numbers unknown in poaching, rec & comm, that is not quantified on the numbers.
We have a significant concern on the effects of Mycobacteriosis and what that might do to the stocks in the near future.
Alone, the Myco should prompt discussion to reduce take so the population is more survivable. |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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08-23-2010, 07:16 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Can someone convince me that charter boats by their very definition are not commercial.
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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08-23-2010, 07:49 AM
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Location: Union,NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKAI
Can someone convince me that charter boats by their very definition are not commercial.
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IT IS REALLY REALLY SIMPLE.... IN NO STATE DOES A CHARTER BOAT / HEAD BOATS CATCH COUNT TOWARDS ANY COMMERCIAL QUOTA!!! SECOND THEY ABIDE BY A RECREATIONAL LIMIT... They can go out 1,2,3 times a day and KILL their rec limits.... |
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08-23-2010, 07:58 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
IT IS REALLY REALLY SIMPLE.... IN NO STATE DOES A CHARTER BOAT / HEAD BOATS CATCH COUNT TOWARDS ANY COMMERCIAL QUOTA!!! SECOND THEY ABIDE BY A RECREATIONAL LIMIT... They can go out 1,2,3 times a day and KILL their rec limits....
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Oh right.. And that's why just about every charter boat out of point Judith that makes 2 trips a day is keeping 2 fish per the captian and mates??
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08-23-2010, 09:25 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
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When I work a 12 hour shift mating on my friends boat on the weekend s. I don't feel I am " recreational fishing ".
(5am at boat prep, 6am departure 1.5 hr steam, 7 hours fishing, trip back, clean the catch, clean the boat, drive home between 5 and 6 pm)
I KNOW IT'S NOT CLASSICAL COMMERCIAL FISHING, NOR IS IT CLASSICAL RECREATIONAL FISHING, BUT IT IS A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR REGARDING FISHING.
And if it takes a good size bite out of the pie.
It needs to have it's own accountability and designation.
That is all I am suggesting.
Last edited by MAKAI; 08-23-2010 at 09:47 AM..
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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08-23-2010, 10:09 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAKAI
BUT IT IS A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR REGARDING FISHING.
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ding ding ding!
we have a winner! |
Ski Quicks Hole
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08-23-2010, 10:47 AM
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Location: Union,NJ
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Originally Posted by likwid
ding ding ding!
we have a winner!
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Not for the guys chartering the vessel... Just the captain and mate... |
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08-23-2010, 09:48 AM
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Location: Union,NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Oh right.. And that's why just about every charter boat out of point Judith that makes 2 trips a day is keeping 2 fish per the captian and mates??
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What they do with those fish is their business..... Is it any different than just regular joe's running out 2-3 times a day keeping their limits? Black market is thriving, its pretty obvious. At least the Comm catch goes to a quota, the rec and charter guys have an unlimited quota! |
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08-23-2010, 10:14 AM
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Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CowHunter
What they do with those fish is their business.....
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Nope, it's not. If they make 2 trips out/day and the capt/mate keep 2 fish per trip, they're exceeding their 2 fish/day limit and it now becomes every single person who fishes business. |
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08-23-2010, 10:34 AM
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Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Nope, it's not. If they make 2 trips out/day and the capt/mate keep 2 fish per trip, they're exceeding their 2 fish/day limit and it now becomes every single person who fishes business.
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Yup. That was my point.
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08-23-2010, 10:45 AM
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Location: Union,NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Nope, it's not. If they make 2 trips out/day and the capt/mate keep 2 fish per trip, they're exceeding their 2 fish/day limit and it now becomes every single person who fishes business.
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Its a possesion Limit!!!! You cannot have in possesion more than 2 striped bass per angler! That simple... |
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