Burning the Koran

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

Victims of what?

Lame sarcasm.

-spence

[justplugit]

I would suggest Rauf sit down with the Muslim moderates and watch
"The Day The Towers Fell."

As a religious people they should be able to see why the area around the 16 acres destroyed is sacred ground
and how their building would adversely affect the families,friends and citizens of our country.

It's a no brain-er for a people who do care about others.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I would suggest Rauf sit down with the Muslim moderates and watch
"The Day The Towers Fell."

As a religious people they should be able to see why the area around the 16 acres destroyed is sacred ground
and how their building would adversely affect the families,friends and citizens of our country.

It's a no brain-er for a people who do care about others.

If it's that sacred, shouldn't the larger area be turned into a gigantic park? Do the strip clubs and bars that are there today make the proper statement of remembrance? Should we allow any new construction?

If it's Islam that offends the sanctity of the location, shouldn't we also prohibit Muslims, or at least traditional Islamic dress visible to others?

You do know the planned location is already used as a mosque today. Should we have this shut down immediately?

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

If it's that sacred, shouldn't the larger area be turned into a gigantic park? Do the strip clubs and bars that are there today make the proper statement of remembrance? Should we allow any new construction?

If it's Islam that offends the sanctity of the location, shouldn't we also prohibit Muslims, or at least traditional Islamic dress visible to others?

You do know the planned location is already used as a mosque today. Should we have this shut down immediately?

-spence

Spence, you just don't get it, your over the top.

This has nothing to do with what bars, strip clubs, Mosques or garbs that were there before the attack.

It has to do with the sesnsitivity for the families and friends of the victims
after an insane attack against innocent people.

Any religion should take that sesnitivity into consideration.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Spence, you just don't get it, your over the top.

This has nothing to do with what bars, strip clubs, Mosques or garbs that were there before the attack.

It has to do with the sesnsitivity for the families and friends of the victims
after an insane attack against innocent people.

Any religion should take that sesnitivity into consideration.

Unless the issue isn't Islam itself, how is the presence of Muslims near Ground Zero insensitive? It's not like the attack killed only Christians, Hindus, Atheists and Jews.

If the 9/11 families and friends (i.e. most all of America) have a problem with Islam, that is the white elephant in the room that should be discussed. Not turn the presence of a mosque, that already exists (I believe it opened after 9/11), into a political circus.

If the objective is sensitivity, then the most vocal critics certainly have failed miserably. The rallies today protesting both sides of the mosque issue are a perfect example.

-spence

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

Unless the issue isn't Islam itself, how is the presence of Muslims near Ground Zero insensitive? It's not like the attack killed only Christians, Hindus, Atheists and Jews.

If the 9/11 families and friends (i.e. most all of America) have a problem with Islam, that is the white elephant in the room that should be discussed. Not turn the presence of a mosque, that already exists (I believe it opened after 9/11), into a political circus.

If the objective is sensitivity, then the most vocal critics certainly have failed miserably. The rallies today protesting both sides of the mosque issue are a perfect example.

-spence

The mosque currently is the guys apartment. Do you consider that a legitimate place of worship?
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[UserRemoved1]

Hey he does have a THRONE to sit on right?

Originally Posted by Nebe

The mosque currently is the guys apartment. Do you consider that a legitimate place of worship?
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I would suggest Rauf sit down with the Muslim moderates and watch
"The Day The Towers Fell."

As a religious people they should be able to see why the area around the 16 acres destroyed is sacred ground
and how their building would adversely affect the families,friends and citizens of our country.

It's a no brain-er for a people who do care about others.

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Spence, my original post has nothing to do with the questions you posted about it.

It's self explanatory, and has to do with Islam being at heart a peaceful religion, with teachings of religious tolerance and respect for others.

Therefore imo, they should be understanding of the feelings of the ones whose lives were forever affected by the evil act by a radical group of their religion.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

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Spence, my original post has nothing to do with the questions you posted about it.

It's self explanatory, and has to do with Islam being at heart a peaceful religion, with teachings of religious tolerance and respect for others.

Therefore imo, they should be understanding of the feelings of the ones whose lives were forever affected by the evil act by a radical group of their religion.

This, in my opinion, is implicating all of Islam in the attack. Just like all the Japanese on the west coast of the US were implicated in Pearl Harbor.

New York is a very diverse city, and Muslims already live, work and pray in the shadow of the twin towers. Muslims (no, not the hijackers smartass) were killed in the attacks.

To say that a cultural center intended to promote interfaith communication (and equal rights for women, perhaps one of the central issues within Islam today) is not sensitive because of a shared faith with Bin Laden doesn't make any sense to me.

Just because they both call it Islam they clearly don't really share the same faith.

Given the large amount of mistrust of Islam in this country I can see how some might feel offended regardless. That being said, a solution based on fear doesn't seem logical if the objective really is peace.

As I've mentioned earlier, this issue seems to have always been about the (partially manufactured) controversy, and not really about the actual center itself and Imam and his wife.

-spence