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Old 11-02-2010, 09:53 PM   #1
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So i went and looked at the rod tonight and it was in better shape then i thought so I picked it up. It appears that the tip needs to be replaced and a Rod seat needs to be put on, as there isnt one on it but the grip is still there. I know that different guides serve different purposes, this rod has 2 like the one pictured below, they are the first 2 starting from the handle. Its was my understanding these larger open eyes were better for casting Mono is this true or will they be ok for braid?

once again i want to thank everone for there input.
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:23 AM   #2
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Possibly trouble for braid. At high line speeds guide looping may occur.
Why not make it a winter project, learn how to wrap a rod, and rebuild it yourself? You'll end up happy.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:03 AM   #3
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Possibly trouble for braid. At high line speeds guide looping may occur.
Why not make it a winter project, learn how to wrap a rod, and rebuild it yourself? You'll end up happy.
I built on this blank with help from George using his guide layout but I used low riders for the first two guides and bmnag's for the rest...best rod that I ever owned, skipped the reel seat and it was the lightest most sensitive rod imaginable, threw everything I need to throw plugwise and was a great bucktailing stick...it's at the bottom of the sea right now thanks to a big wave but I'm diving today to try to retrieve it...anyway 1321L with George's low rider guide layout is a tremendous stick...
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:46 AM   #4
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I built on this blank with help from George using his guide layout but I used low riders for the first two guides and bmnag's for the rest...best rod that I ever owned, skipped the reel seat and it was the lightest most sensitive rod imaginable, threw everything I need to throw plugwise and was a great bucktailing stick...it's at the bottom of the sea right now thanks to a big wave but I'm diving today to try to retrieve it...anyway 1321L with George's low rider guide layout is a tremendous stick...
I wrapped a 132 1L last year with low riders guides, tried a bunch of different layouts and ended up putting the stripper guide at 46" because of hte reel i was using. It casted very far but kind of took away from the feel i was looking for when fighting a fish or working a pencil.

Mind sharing the spacing layout George used on your rod??

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Old 11-04-2010, 06:50 AM   #5
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I wrapped a 132 1L last year with low riders guides, tried a bunch of different layouts and ended up putting the stripper guide at 46" because of hte reel i was using. It casted very far but kind of took away from the feel i was looking for when fighting a fish or working a pencil.

Mind sharing the spacing layout George used on your rod??
I can....or George might...he might have some new info... and I don't know if this helps Skip but I didn't use any thread building the rod, the guides were attached entirely using adhesive backed shrink tube...it was an easy fast build, incredibly durable, I swim with that rod on every trip(around 100) and it handled fish to 42lbs without any problem and I really beat the crap out of it...I checked the guides regularly for issues and cracking of the flex coat as this was experimental and it held up perfectly...I guess I'm just saying that it was a very effective and fast way to build a durable rod without having to learn thread wrapping
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:21 AM   #6
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I can....or George might...he might have some new info... and I don't know if this helps Skip but I didn't use any thread building the rod, the guides were attached entirely using adhesive backed shrink tube...it was an easy fast build, incredibly durable, I swim with that rod on every trip(around 100) and it handled fish to 42lbs without any problem and I really beat the crap out of it...I checked the guides regularly for issues and cracking of the flex coat as this was experimental and it held up perfectly...I guess I'm just saying that it was a very effective and fast way to build a durable rod without having to learn thread wrapping
I'm surprised you didn't try wrapping thread knowing what you do for a living. It's very easy.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:49 AM   #7
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I'm surprised you didn't try wrapping thread knowing what you do for a living. It's very easy.
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I did on a loomis blank 10'6" the previous year, but got bored with the wrapping so it looked nice for a little while and then went to hell...this rod required only a butt cap, adhesive lined shrink tube on the butt/handle, reel taped on..no seat.. and guides attached w/the shrink tube.... a coat of flexcoat tinted black over the wraps...tried to go the simplest possible route
the important thing was George's guide layout...he described this particular blank as a "dog" with a traditional guide layout
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:39 AM   #8
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Possibly trouble for braid. At high line speeds guide looping may occur.
Why not make it a winter project, learn how to wrap a rod, and rebuild it yourself? You'll end up happy.
I would love to learn how to do it, unfortunately i am the type of person that needs to be shown, not read and do,and being new here i didn't want to ask, but seeing as you brought it up, If anyone is willing to teach i am always willing to learn.!
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:05 PM   #9
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Possibly trouble for braid. At high line speeds guide looping may occur.
Why not make it a winter project, learn how to wrap a rod, and rebuild it yourself? You'll end up happy.
Because he will just end up sniffing the glue and getting wasted!

Does your incessant whining make you feel better? How about you just shut the hell up and suck it up? It's a fishing forum , so please just stop.
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:55 PM   #10
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Because he will just end up sniffing the glue and getting wasted!
couple times down the Ditch with me and you know me already. lol
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