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Old 11-19-2010, 10:56 AM   #1
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Like I said elsewhere...fishery agency problems are unfix-able.

Turning on and off fisheries is not "management".

That is a good point, if the stock is in such dire straits that we go from 20 to 1 bag limit, how is it possible that "they" did not see this coming 1 or 2 seasons ago and make adjustments then? Maybe we just don't have all the facts at hand.... but this just does not add up.

"They" (Fishery groups) used the same "logic" for SB..complete moratorium....maybe it was warranted but THEY HAD BEEN MAGAGING THE SPECIES FOR DECADES PRIOR!!! This is what kills me...they keep patting themselves on the back for a job well done and saving the bass but in FACT they did nothing in terms of actually managing the species. The fact is THEY were (and still are) more part of the problem then the solution. This is why fishery management is an unfixable problem. The government must disband all fishery departments and start with some conservative approaches. This harvesting the maximum yield theory does not work. We should not consider the oceans a farm and try to squeeeeze every last drop of resource from it.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:57 AM   #2
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Harvest ?

Any idea why the word " Harvest " is used so much ?
Wouldn't harvest imply farming, taking care of the land, seeding, nurturing then harvesting. Then do it all over next season.
I don't see a parallel.

" Harvest " is the wrong word.

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Old 11-19-2010, 12:25 PM   #3
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Any idea why the word " Harvest " is used so much ?
Wouldn't harvest imply farming, taking care of the land, seeding, nurturing then harvesting. Then do it all over next season.
I don't see a parallel.

" Harvest " is the wrong word.
"Harvest" sounds better than "Kill".

Is hamburger "harvested"?
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:31 PM   #4
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"Harvest" sounds better than "Kill".

Is hamburger "harvested"?
The fish and game folks apply the word "harvest" when referring to hunting as well .......as in harvesting a deer.....go figure?

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Old 11-19-2010, 12:39 PM   #5
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I suspect the result of the fluke mess has been to shift recreational fishing pressure onto seabass and the ASMFC suspects the current level of pressure is unsustainable.
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Old 11-21-2010, 05:07 AM   #6
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"Harvest" sounds better than "Kill".

Is hamburger "harvested"?
true that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

HARVEST is also used because we are referring to a natural resource.
as in the ocean is the "field", the species are the "crop", and we are the "farmers".

ahhhhh, yes; but, will we be GOOD stewards of our Provision~~~ that is THE question!!!

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between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy

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