Anyone following what's going on in Wisconsin?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

You know what would be better, if the teachers said screw you and all quit. Then let the parents all stay home from work to watch and home school them.

No, what would happen is, parents would get their property taxes back and use that money to enroll their kids in private schools, which are better, cheaper, and NOT coincidentally, have no unions!!

And then the teachers would all go to the private sector, and by 10:00 AM on the first day they'd realize how great they had it.

[RIROCKHOUND]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;838618]No, what would happen is, parents would get their property taxes back and use that money to enroll their kids in private schools, which are better, cheaper, and NOT coincidentally, have no unions!!QUOTE]

Property taxes in round numbers, for me is $3500/year, what % of that is education? Call it 2K. I have one kid, what if I had 5?

Whats the tuition of the average private school? Hendrican is 11K, so is Prout. Maybe grammar school age is cheaper.


The education majors (I was dabbling in an education double major for a bit) I was enrolled with who ended up in Private schools, were not the cream of the crop and couldn't wait to get out b/c the money sucks. The exception are religious heavy schools, were many educators in those schools have something else invested in it.

[Jim in CT]

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, what would happen is, parents would get their property taxes back and use that money to enroll their kids in private schools, which are better, cheaper, and NOT coincidentally, have no unions!!QUOTE]

Property taxes in round numbers, for me is $3500/year, what % of that is education? Call it 2K. I have one kid, what if I had 5?

Whats the tuition of the average private school? Hendrican is 11K, so is Prout. Maybe grammar school age is cheaper.


The education majors (I was dabbling in an education double major for a bit) I was enrolled with who ended up in Private schools, were not the cream of the crop and couldn't wait to get out b/c the money sucks. The exception are religious heavy schools, were many educators in those schools have something else invested in it.

In CT, I pay $8,000 a year in property taxes for a 3 bedroom colonial on half an acre. In my town, about 60% of property taxes is for education. Give that money back to EVERYBODY, including people who don't have kids in school, and we couild build some nice non-union schools with that monety.

[RIROCKHOUND]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;838629]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

In CT, I pay $8,000 a year in property taxes for a 3 bedroom colonial on half an acre. In my town, about 60% of property taxes is for education. Give that money back to EVERYBODY, including people who don't have kids in school, and we couild build some nice non-union schools with that monety.

So you could send three kids to private school for $4800? Would you really like the quality of education in that school?
Or is this more of the same; lets make cuts and deal with the consequences later

give me a break. The teachers in WI conceeded to the costs. They want to keep some union rights and the Gov cracks down. that seems to have been the Gov's plan all along.

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=RIROCKHOUND;838631]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you could send three kids to private school for $4800? Would you really like the quality of education in that school?
Or is this more of the same; lets make cuts and deal with the consequences later

give me a break. The teachers in WI conceeded to the costs. They want to keep some union rights and the Gov cracks down. that seems to have been the Gov's plan all along.

"So you could send three kids to private school for $4800? "

Do you think through anything before regurgitating the liberal talking points? I pay property taxes for LIFE, not just the years that my kids are in school. And it's not just property taxes. A good chunk of my state income tax goes to education, as well as a god chunk of my federal income tax. Gimme all that money back, and there's a great chance it would cover the cost of a great, Catholic education.

If those lifetime tax cuts didn't cover private tuition, it would be close. I'd be willing to kick in the difference. So would most people. And the school would be 10 times better, and I'd know for damn sure that the folks teaching there ain't doing it for the money, because they don't get paid nearly as much as the union counterpartys in public schools.

"The teachers in WI conceeded to the costs."

For now. And then next year, the union would start demanding more and more, and then we're back in the same boat.

The gov proposed that public employees would get annual cost-of-living increases automatically (better than what the private sector offers). If public employees wanted increases bigger than COLA, they'd have to get public approval, which is obviously reasonable, since it's the public's money. But the union REFUSED. Why refuse that?

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, what would happen is, parents would get their property taxes back and use that money to enroll their kids in private schools, which are better, cheaper, and NOT coincidentally, have no unions!!

And then the teachers would all go to the private sector, and by 10:00 AM on the first day they'd realize how great they had it.

Wrong because they get a bargain now, most could not afford private schools How much in tax dollars would they get back? BC high school cost 15g's a year, same as most of the best private schools

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

Wrong because they get a bargain now, most could not afford private schools How much in tax dollars would they get back? BC high school cost 15g's a year, same as most of the best private schools

OK, Specialist, I hear you. You are right, most parents cannot afford private schools. So according to you then, since teachers have the parents over a barrel, teachers are justified in using their unions to extort unreasonable benefits from the taxpayers? Because they have a perfect monopoly, you are fine with teachers demanding benefits that woudl NEVER be accepted if there was competition?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

Wrong because they get a bargain now, most could not afford private schools How much in tax dollars would they get back? BC high school cost 15g's a year, same as most of the best private schools

"because they get a bargain now,"

Here in CT, most people would not say that property taxes are a "bargain". How can it be a "bargian" when the teachers get such insane benefits?

In WI, the governor and GOP legislature were elected specifically because people are realizing thatthese unions are nothing close to a "bargain".

Sorry, elections have consequences.