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Old 03-21-2011, 07:26 PM   #9
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Always best to be outa town when Congress may have questions.
just got done reading a recount of a lengthy speech Biden gave regarding presidential powers as well as an interview with Obama on much the same subject, apparently things have really changed since those two were throwing bombs of criticism rather than having to actually make the decisions


“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,” Obama responded.

“As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States,” Obama continued. “In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch.” O'Bomber

his announcement contained lot's of.... I.....I....I'm...I....I.I.I.I.I's....didn't see any mention of congress


but it's not at all like O'Bomber to lecture others and then exclude himself from his own pronouncements at a later date...is it?


Biden-Citing Federalist No. 69, Biden noted that Alexander Hamilton, who among the Framers was perhaps the greatest champion of a strong executive, argued that the Constitution gave the president the authority to direct the military in action only after that action was authorized by Congress.

“Even Alexander Hamilton, a staunch advocate of Presidential power, emphasized that the President’s power as Commander in Chief would be ‘much inferior’ to the British King, amounting to ‘nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces,’ while that of the British King ‘extends to declaring of war and to the raising and regulating of fleets and armies–all which, by [the U.S.] Constitution, would appertain to the legislature,’” said Biden.

“Given this,” Biden concluded, “the only logical conclusion is that the framers intended to grant to Congress the power to initiate all hostilities, even limited wars.”

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