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05-02-2011, 06:02 AM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
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So everyone is going to give Obama all the credit?
It was all military working on a mission until it was complete, all Obama did was give approval to the op, which any president would have done...
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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05-02-2011, 06:09 AM
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Also known as OAK
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No.
GWB deserves credit for this as well, absolutely. The intelligence used began in 2004 if the news accounts are correct.
However, in the last 2.5 years, Obama has clearly not scaled back the efforts to locate OBL, and by many accounts ramped up the efforts in the last 6 months, so yes, as C-I-C he deserves some credit, yes.
but listening to accounts of the helicopter malfunctioning and some of the potential issues as the raid began, the heroes are clearly the Seals on this mission, hands down.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-02-2011, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
So everyone is going to give Obama all the credit?
It was all military working on a mission until it was complete, all Obama did was give approval to the op, which any president would have done...
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Crazy what happens though when the focus is taken off Bush's war in Iraq and back to where the real war on terrorism should be focused.
This was a win by US intelligence. Then our Special Ops perfectly executed (pun intended) a raid based on that intelligence.
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05-02-2011, 10:03 AM
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will the short form death certificate be enough or is the long form with the embossed seal required?
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05-02-2011, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
will the short form death certificate be enough or is the long form with the embossed seal required?
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Posted this in the other thread:

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05-02-2011, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Crazy what happens though when the focus is taken off Bush's war in Iraq and back to where the real war on terrorism should be focused.
This was a win by US intelligence. Then our Special Ops perfectly executed (pun intended) a raid based on that intelligence.
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I haven't heard anything that suggests that this mission might not have happened if we hadn't reduced our presence in Iraq. I could certainly be wrong...
I'd say it's crazy (crazy = good) what happens when intelligence folks are allowed to take the gloves off, because there ARE reports that the first break in this case (the relationship between the courier and Bin Laden) was provided by Khalid Shiek Mohammad, but only after he was waterboarded.
The word "incomprehensible" rarely is used to mean exactly what it implies. In this case, it is incomprehensible to me that folks are opposed to waterboarding.
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05-03-2011, 04:12 AM
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my first concern, whenever a mas murderer is killed, is that his body is handled properly and buried in strict accordance with the guidelines of the peaceful religeon that he practiced throughout his life, you wouldn't want any of the other followers of the peaceful religeon to be upset that one of it's members, no matter how rogue, devious or deadly was in any way mistreated, even in death  glad to know that he was properly prepared for his trip to heaven 
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05-03-2011, 10:34 AM
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Quick quiz.
Name a time "water boarding" worked?  Hmmmm think hard....
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05-03-2011, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Quick quiz.
Name a time "water boarding" worked?  Hmmmm think hard....
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I'm at a loss. When?
-spence
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05-02-2011, 07:51 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
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Location: Brockton,Ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
So everyone is going to give Obama all the credit?
It was all military working on a mission until it was complete, all Obama did was give approval to the op, which any president would have done...
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Why Not a part of it ... If this thing went bad (bum helicopter) many would have hung it around the Presidents kneck . Congrats Seals and Obama .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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