Get some sleep

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by SAUERKRAUT

Picture is a fatty 41" fish 27-4. The mouth had a healed chronic thru laceration of the jaw. Probably somebody's previous fish hook injury. Your kind C&R allowed me to have a similarly fine C&R experience with a nice fish that made my nite. Despite what the "commercials" say, these are tough fish and they survive.

2nd Pic is a 38" fish, healthy enough to suck in my eel and fight well-- it probably survived a seal, and probably not very long before I C&R'd it.

I do certainly like the consensus direction this Threadhas taken re what is really important here...and that is the preservation and the protection of the opportunity to catch these great fish. I don't need tournament, neither OTW nor the MV Derby to get me out there.

Then there was that 57 pounder that Lev Wlodyka caught on MV several years ago. It had an old yo-yo weight in its stomach that had been completely encapsulated in stomach tissue.

Bass are not delicate fish. I've always said it, and every year, the point gets proven.

[JohnnySaxatilis]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Then there was that 57 pounder that Lev Wlodyka caught on MV several years ago. It had an old yo-yo weight in its stomach that had been completely encapsulated in stomach tissue.

jelly belly knelly. The Big One by david kenney. good book!

[Back Beach]

Just read the MV Derby committee disqualified two division leading participants due to their lack of having recreational fishing licenses...makes me wonder about the Striper Cup.

[Mike P]

By the way, none of what I said is directed at Greg or TS. I know that Greg was contemplating throwing in with them over the off-season. It wasn't a case of him looking at the pack and deciding to help out one team over another. Just general principles.

Licensing? OTW is a coast-wide tournament. How could they ever check? The Derby, with one central weigh-in, can demand that a contestant show his/her license when weighing in a fish. OTW can't, and most weigh stations couldn't be bothered.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Licensing? OTW is a coast-wide tournament. How could they ever check? The Derby, with one central weigh-in, can demand that a contestant show his/her license when weighing in a fish. OTW can't, and most weigh stations couldn't be bothered.

You simply provide proof of your license when you register for either tournament if your given state requires licensing. Not too difficult, IMO.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

You simply provide proof of your license when you register for either tournament if your given state requires licensing. Not too difficult, IMO.

I assumed you had to show it for the Derby when you registered.

The problem with the Striper Cup is that a lot of people register early online or register at the winter shows. They may not have purchased the rec license by the time they sign up for it.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by fishbones

I assumed you had to show it for the Derby when you registered.

The problem with the Striper Cup is that a lot of people register early online or register at the winter shows. They may not have purchased the rec license by the time they sign up for it.

Then they should make people show a license when they weigh in a fish.

Nobody thinks less of the saltwater license b.s. than I do, but if I shell out 10 bucks for a license and another 45 for the striper cup registration, I demand the same from my fellow competitiors.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Mike P

By the way, none of what I said is directed at Greg or TS. I know that Greg was contemplating throwing in with them over the off-season. It wasn't a case of him looking at the pack and deciding to help out one team over another. Just general principles.

"If I'm a heavy hitter, I can sit on the sidelines, see how the standings shape up, and then offer my "services" to a team that wants to make a mid-tournament push on a team that's been together since the start.".

right, clearly no inference there......

Originally Posted by Mike P

Because the club tournament is run separately from the individual one, with separate standings.

I'm pretty sure it's not run separately, last I checked..,weekly, monthly, Angler of the Year(individual standings)and Team were all the same fish...

the team standings and the option to fish for a team just make it more interesting and probably increase participation....I don't think that there are gobs of money and prizes showered on the team that wins to entice those "heavy hitters" to spend their season caluclating which team to join and selling their services in order to stick it to another team...

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by scottw

right, clearly no inference there......



I'm pretty sure it's not run separately, last I checked..,weekly, monthly, Angler of the Year(individual standings)and Team were all the same fish...

the team standings and the option to fish for a team just make it more interesting and probably increase participation....I don't think that there are gobs of money and prizes showered on the team that wins to entice those "heavy hitters" to spend their season caluclating which team to join and selling their services in order to stick it to another team...

No just 10 grand

[scottw]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

No just 10 grand

we could check.... but I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with the team results or any of what I wrote...

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by scottw

right, clearly no inference there......

You think he's the only heavy hitter? I thought I made it clear that TS was the only team he ever considered joining.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Mike P

You think he's the only heavy hitter? I thought I made it clear that TS was the only team he ever considered joining.

he's the one that got your panties in a bunch about all of this...or is this general principles guided by wild specualtion?

still up ...by the way...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up.


Michael Prevost With all due respect, if it's true that Greg Myerson was allowed to join Team Striper after not registering as a club member initially, your tournament has lost all credibility with a lot of anglers. The rule is pretty clear: Upon registration an angler must declare either a club affiliation or no affiliation. I see nothing that allows an "undeclared" angler to declare an affiliation with less than a month after the tournament.


The Striper Cup Hi Mike - Policy since year one has been to allow individuals to declare team affiliation at any point in the tournament, but only allow fish going forward to count toward team standings. We have had hundreds of anglers every year, on almost every team, who sign up first and then declare a team later in the season. Thanks for pointing out that we need to clarify that in our rules. Please contact bdean@onthewater.com if you have any questions or would like further explanation. Thanks


have you contacted them regarding all of your suggestions, opinions and ideas regarding improving the tournament?

[Swimmer]

I never look at the pictorials

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

Just read the MV Derby committee disqualified two division leading participants due to their lack of having recreational fishing licenses...makes me wonder about the Striper Cup.

Thought it was only one, the big albie, who was the other one?

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

Just read the MV Derby committee disqualified two division leading participants due to their lack of having recreational fishing licenses...makes me wonder about the Striper Cup.

Must have happened on the 18th.... Meeting to DSQ was on the 19th, and the Daily Winners' page from the 18th looks pretty sparse.... I have no beef with their ruling.

[Sea Dangles]

Please don't derail this thread with anyhing that makes sense.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Please don't derail this thread with anyhing that makes sense.

You started it...