Circle Hook / YoYo Rig Comment Period and Hearings

[trapperpierre]

...no scientific data to support the amount of yoyo fatalities--regulation to prohibit use of is not substanciated(reg should not be even introduced based on the lack of research in this area)-introduced on hearsay......do a study before even considering enacting

......and there is plenty of data on catch & release by rod & reel--with a healthy percentaage killed-time for scientific study to evaluate the light tackle as an important negative multican of death to C&R..:love

........multiple use is the only fair way to utilize the striped bass resource.....food & recreation..........if comm & recs do not managed to SB resource to provide their respective utilization....they have nothing-both groups are not stupid......

[trapperpierre]

.........the floaters now are being applied to other commercial fisherman bag down in the mid-atlantic--and/or off loaded to other boats being counted towards the cap..............however I've avicated that striped bass commercial fish be caught by rod & reel as the primary tool........coastwide.....LOL to ya all

[likwid]

Originally Posted by trapperpierre

...no scientific data to support the amount of yoyo fatalities

Are you really trying to defend yoyo'ing?

[trapperpierre]

........ANY fisheries regulation-as it relates to fish mortality- demands/needs a comprehensive scientific study before it shall be implemented........otherwise, a reglatory dictator can -without justification-enact a regulation without due proceess....this will start a a bad administrative process----that will--beyond this issue--bite all fisherman in the butt....

[DZ]

Originally Posted by trapperpierre

........ANY fisheries regulation-as it relates to fish mortality- demands/needs a comprehensive scientific study before it shall be implemented........otherwise, a reglatory dictator can -without justification-enact a regulation without due proceess....this will start a a bad administrative process----that will--beyond this issue--bite all fisherman in the butt....

You are correct trapper - but I think the intent of this proposed reg is meant to enforce banning an unethical method of fishing. How could anyone use a bait that has a high potential to kill untargeted species such as other fish, marine birds, etc., when coming unattached from your line. Hard to come up with an appropriate analogy but if I knew that every time an eel came off my hook it would be fatal to anything that ate it - I would stop using eels.
If you can't get fishermen to voluntarily clean up their act you have to make a law. Unfortunatly society can't depend on the use of common sense.

DZ

[trapperpierre]

.....circle YoYo-reminds me of ranch names out Montana/Utah way.....we can discuss a variety of topics....from weights inside baits...C & R mortality...seals wearing a face full trebles from pencils, swimmers, and bait rigs....breaking off lead jigs in fish mouths etc. etc...all important----all issues to be considered......now for some stuff of equal importance! Bean rubber bottom boots not manufactured in Maine WT% ! Here is one equal grounds---National Biscuit Company-A.K.A "Nabisco" an all American company--like apple pie & Chevrolet.......Fig Newtons are baked in Mexico(nothing against our friends from the south of USA).....I'm enjoying a stack of them...notice the net weight of the packages is shrinking(like most food stuffs)---and in tiny print Made In Mexico.....ahh! Circles Yo Yo's and imported LL Boots & Fig Newtons from Mexico. We certainly live in complex, forever changing world..........,,,,,good luck & good health to you all

[trapperpierre]

......special hooks-limits on lead use-next in line is treble hooks banned-eels on endangered species list(better make ALL those rubba eels ya all use biodegradable/non toxic--as they are next in line by enviro do gooders....watch out for that Plover....oh the seals are cute........then-MPA's......many elementary schools have approved curicullum(sp?)-teaching against any form of fishing(the fish feels pain etc)-fishing overall is unethical---just wait 'til these kids get into the game of natural resource managers----fishing as we know today-with it.'s moderate freedom it still provides----will be a thing of the past...one surburban neighborhood's application of herbicides, fungicides, chemical fertilizer--no doubt--kills more SB than a bunch of C & R ers & Yo Yo.--it is nice to point fingers around......heading in the direction of a classic case of winning the battle and loosing the war........

[MAKAI]

God, you make me want to get a rope and start looking for a big tree.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by trapperpierre

.....circle YoYo-reminds me of ranch names out Montana/Utah way.....we can discuss a variety of topics....from weights inside baits...C & R mortality...seals wearing a face full trebles from pencils, swimmers, and bait rigs....breaking off lead jigs in fish mouths etc. etc...all important----all issues to be considered......now for some stuff of equal importance! Bean rubber bottom boots not manufactured in Maine WT% ! Here is one equal grounds---National Biscuit Company-A.K.A "Nabisco" an all American company--like apple pie & Chevrolet.......Fig Newtons are baked in Mexico(nothing against our friends from the south of USA).....I'm enjoying a stack of them...notice the net weight of the packages is shrinking(like most food stuffs)---and in tiny print Made In Mexico.....ahh! Circles Yo Yo's and imported LL Boots & Fig Newtons from Mexico. We certainly live in complex, forever changing world..........,,,,,good luck & good health to you all

You have me sooooooo confused. What the hell are you trying to say???
Everything is bad, nothing is bad, Fig Newtons are bad, Nabisco is Good, Chevy is bad, Yo-yoing is bad Yo-yoing is good. I don't understand any of your posts.

[spence]

Originally Posted by piemma

You have me sooooooo confused. What the hell are you trying to say???
Everything is bad, nothing is bad, Fig Newtons are bad, Nabisco is Good, Chevy is bad, Yo-yoing is bad Yo-yoing is good. I don't understand any of your posts.

Yes but...

....circle YoYo-reminds me of ranch names out Montana/Utah way

This does make a lot of sense. If you need further explanation head to the Mint Bar in Sheridan, Wyoming.

-spence