holy crap

[tysdad115]

Shameful. No comm. limit? Saddening to see.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

[robc22]

Originally Posted by tysdad115

Shameful. No comm. limit? Saddening to see.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

If you read it they took there limit and no more.......

[Liv2Fish]

If you poke around the site, there is an infomercial for what you get if you join (for a fee). Detailed specific location information, marked up google maps of the canal and CC Bay! First month is $1.

So for a buck, he's willing to whore out the exact details of what some of us have spent many years and thousands of $$$ to learn.

This is the kind of crap that has made the canal such a siht hole of a place to fish.

[afterhours]

yup legal com limit....30 fish per day

[Canalman]

Originally Posted by Liv2Fish

This is the kind of crap that has made the canal such a siht hole of a place to fish.

Um what?

Fishing the Canal is easy, no one needs a map... all you need is a tide chart and a pencil popper. There are articles detailing how to read the Canal chart dating back to the 1970s and there were probably many more before that.

No one person or one service made the Canal what it is...

WE DID IT... these message boards did it (They do a lot of great things too don't get me wrong ) but I know several guys in New Jersey who have Canal bikes... and I know they didn't buy a map, they read the boards, got hungry, read an article or two and went to take their piece of the pie. It's fisherman ego that ruins every spot because too many people can't quietly enjoy a good day of fishing--they have to shout it from the rooftops, puff out their chests at every tackle shop they see on the way home, post it on Facebook and, amid the flames and daggers, post it on a board like this one. It's one of the markers of our times. And when you look it, of course the Canal is a good place to fish, it's the biggest fish funnel on the east coast...

-Dave

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Um what?

Fishing the Canal is easy, no one needs a map... all you need is a tide chart and a pencil popper. There are articles detailing how to read the Canal chart dating back to the 1970s and there were probably many more before that.

No one person or one service made the Canal what it is...

WE DID IT... these message boards did it (They do a lot of great things too don't get me wrong ) but I know several guys in New Jersey who have Canal bikes... and I know they didn't buy a map, they read the boards, got hungry, read an article or two and went to take their piece of the pie. It's fisherman ego that ruins every spot because too many people can't quietly enjoy a good day of fishing--they have to shout it from the rooftops, puff out their chests at every tackle shop they see on the way home, post it on Facebook and, amid the flames and daggers, post it on a board like this one. It's one of the markers of our times. And when you look it, of course the Canal is a good place to fish, it's the biggest fish funnel on the east coast...

-Dave

There is a spot near the canal that something similar happened to due to loose lips,I guess a dude got a big fish there and next thing you know it was overrun with NJ plates.Freikin internet.

[Liv2Fish]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Um what?

Fishing the Canal is easy, no one needs a map... all you need is a tide chart and a pencil popper. There are articles detailing how to read the Canal chart dating back to the 1970s and there were probably many more before that.

No one person or one service made the Canal what it is...

WE DID IT... these message boards did it (They do a lot of great things too don't get me wrong ) but I know several guys in New Jersey who have Canal bikes... and I know they didn't buy a map, they read the boards, got hungry, read an article or two and went to take their piece of the pie. It's fisherman ego that ruins every spot because too many people can't quietly enjoy a good day of fishing--they have to shout it from the rooftops, puff out their chests at every tackle shop they see on the way home, post it on Facebook and, amid the flames and daggers, post it on a board like this one. It's one of the markers of our times. And when you look it, of course the Canal is a good place to fish, it's the biggest fish funnel on the east coast...

-Dave

I agree 99%. The canal is probably structurally the best location on the east coast to target bass. Anyone can fish it with basic gear and knowledge and have a great time. There is a wealth of "general" information out there, from bike building to reading the water, when the big spring and fall push usually takes place, etc. As you mention, it's all been around for years.

My reply had nothing to do with the link to the story being posted here. I have no issue with comm fishing. As may others have said, it's legal and helps offset the cost of fishing, etc. It was certainly a epic haul and something to be proud of, if that was what they set out to do.

My reply was directed at the amount of information for sale on the other site. Fishing the canal can be easy and fun, if you catch it at the right time. Producing consistent results all season requires putting in lots of time and lots of $$ worth of donated jigs learning the nuances of the place. Exactly how far ahead of the hole to stand or cast at the particular stage of the tide. Knowing how many bounces your jig will make before you have to dump line so it slides down into the hole where the fish really are. I've not come across any book or post that gives up that detail. Seems like from the infomercial I watched, that's what you get, for a fee, from the other site. Maybe not that much detail but that's what it sounded like. There was a quick glimpse of a GGE map with pole numbers and shaded areas in front of it, etc. That's what I don't agree with.

I don't believe the forums are responsible for making the canal what it is, the information posted has done the deed. Kind of like guns don't kill, people do...”Spot Burns” are definitely not cool on most sites. I don’t think anyone here would have wanted you to post where you got your recent 50 (nice fish BTW), but we would all love to know.

If everyone who fished the canal had the information to focus their efforts only on the most productive water, things would be much worse down there. Nothing is more frustrating than watching someone stand on the best spot to fish a hole and have no clue how to do it. I’ve tried to offer help and most often, get an Ahole response like “ I don’t need a guide, thank you”. 10 years ago, you could just move to another spot, but now there’s most likely another guy there doing the same thing.

This is all I was getting at. I can tell from the accolades sent from many members here on your 50, that you too have put in your time. No disrespect meant here - just frustrated that it’s all out there for sale and surprised that more people aren't. #^&#^&#^&#^& hole was a poor choice of words on my part....

Mark

[East Tide]

Originally Posted by Liv2Fish

If you poke around the site, there is an infomercial for what you get if you join (for a fee). Detailed specific location information, marked up google maps of the canal and CC Bay! First month is $1.

So for a buck, he's willing to whore out the exact details of what some of us have spent many years and thousands of $$$ to learn.

This is the kind of crap that has made the canal such a siht hole of a place to fish.

Originally Posted by Liv2Fish

I agree 99%. The canal is probably structurally the best location on the east coast to target bass. Anyone can fish it with basic gear and knowledge and have a great time. There is a wealth of "general" information out there, from bike building to reading the water, when the big spring and fall push usually takes place, etc. As you mention, it's all been around for years.

My reply had nothing to do with the link to the story being posted here. I have no issue with comm fishing. As may others have said, it's legal and helps offset the cost of fishing, etc. It was certainly a epic haul and something to be proud of, if that was what they set out to do.

My reply was directed at the amount of information for sale on the other site. Fishing the canal can be easy and fun, if you catch it at the right time. Producing consistent results all season requires putting in lots of time and lots of $$ worth of donated jigs learning the nuances of the place. Exactly how far ahead of the hole to stand or cast at the particular stage of the tide. Knowing how many bounces your jig will make before you have to dump line so it slides down into the hole where the fish really are. I've not come across any book or post that gives up that detail. Seems like from the infomercial I watched, that's what you get, for a fee, from the other site. Maybe not that much detail but that's what it sounded like. There was a quick glimpse of a GGE map with pole numbers and shaded areas in front of it, etc. That's what I don't agree with.

I don't believe the forums are responsible for making the canal what it is, the information posted has done the deed. Kind of like guns don't kill, people do...”Spot Burns” are definitely not cool on most sites. I don’t think anyone here would have wanted you to post where you got your recent 50 (nice fish BTW), but we would all love to know.

If everyone who fished the canal had the information to focus their efforts only on the most productive water, things would be much worse down there. Nothing is more frustrating than watching someone stand on the best spot to fish a hole and have no clue how to do it. I’ve tried to offer help and most often, get an Ahole response like “ I don’t need a guide, thank you”. 10 years ago, you could just move to another spot, but now there’s most likely another guy there doing the same thing.

This is all I was getting at. I can tell from the accolades sent from many members here on your 50, that you too have put in your time. No disrespect meant here - just frustrated that it’s all out there for sale and surprised that more people aren't. #^&#^&#^&#^& hole was a poor choice of words on my part....

Mark

Let me preface this by saying I moved to St Louis in 2001 and before that I fished the canal 5-7 nights a week in season. I make it back 1-2 weeks a year and go crazy with anxiety leading up to the trips- f'in crazy. I read anything canal related to pass the time, which I have a lot of when I'm not fishing.

I found a link that said something about top 10 canal spots and how to fish them, join for $1 and get it free. I'll bite. I get on the site, which is well done and good for someone who needs to know basic canal info, which you can find anywhere else for free. When I asked him about the 10 canal spot info he replied (and I have the email) "well, I was getting $200 for it last winter, but I'll give you a deal for $150." Get f'ed buddy! Seriously, it would have been one thing to say it's not available anymore, but asking for $200 in writing!

As far as the commercial thing goes I don't fault him at all. He's doing what he's allowed to do by law. If I could live on the cape in the summers and fish 24/7 and support it by selling fish and chartering, I would.

While there was definitely information on fishing the canal prior to the dot com boom, coming from the perspective of a guy that started right in the cusp of it when I got my drivers license in 1994 (the WMI board days 1998-2001)- fished it hard up until 2001 and then stepped back and view it as an outsider once or twice a year, it has got out of control. I firmly believe that msg boards, ect, made it the way it is and it will never be the same. I would venture to say that everyone reading this has benefited, but is now paying the price with plugs over the head, 5 guys at your rock and trash all over the place.