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I cant tell you how uninformed you are
Dirt cheap labor Likwid? 4 of the counties in TX on the list are near my town. Median incomes are in all these areas exceed 100K PER HOUSEHOLD. Most are 140K and above. You cant touch houses in some of these places for under a million. And guess what? Theres no oil here or energy. Its all healthcare, IT and financial services. Every day I see maseratis, bentleys and lamborghinis driving around. Yeah, they're all dirt cheap labor.
new englanders heads are so far up there a$$ its not even funny. There is not one area in NE that is growing. The entire areas is declining.
Go ahead and jump all over me but I can post volumes of DATA that show the median incomes, industries, etc. I know its hard to believe when you're in the new england bubble, but the rest of the country is educated, skilled and motivated.
Thats funny, I just looked through Fort Bend County (trulia etc) and nothing over a million is moving.
Lots of wishing, not alot of selling.
I can throw a rock and hit million dollar homes and wave to million dollar incomes, whats your point?
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ohh! well I currently work for one of the worlds largest financial companies and I know what im talking about. Plus, believe it or not, I have data to back me up. data is a wonderful thing.
[QUOTE=likwid;955371]Thats funny, I just looked through Fort Bend County (trulia etc) and nothing over a million is moving.
Lots of wishing, not alot of selling.
I can throw a rock and hit million dollar homes and wave to million dollar incomes, whats your point?
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my point is that its not "cheap labor" driving growth in these areas. If it was, the median income would not be so high in most of these areas that are growing. Its a silly science called economics. Whats driving growth is
- good business climate which includes low state taxes, and qualified resources (pools of college grads - where its growing)
- quality of life - good commutes, better weather
- good schools, infrastructure
while I agree with you that companies dont care about your quality of life, the quality of life of an area is what attracts talented people. Its not about only money. people want work/life balance and most cities cannot offer that.
My wife and I rarely had commutes under an hour, and not we commute 10 minutes and live in an affluent area I could not afford to live in on the east coast. My kids public schools are mind blowing, all the latest technology and built in the last few yrs. Educational rankings are exceptional.
you serioulsy must be blind if you dont see talented people fleeing the northeast. In my old neighborhood in MA alone, 4 familes recently moved to other states for better jobs.
If it was, the median income would not be so high in most of these areas that are growing.
Post your data sources.
Lets make sure to differentiate between median family vs median male or median female.
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people want work/life balance and most cities cannot offer that.
Manhattan. End of discussion on that.
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you serioulsy must be blind if you dont see talented people fleeing the northeast. In my old neighborhood in MA alone, 4 familes recently moved to other states for better jobs.
Yes, just like Mass Exodus. Remember that? END OF MA BUSINESS! Right, sure, door -> butt etc.
Post your data sources.
Lets make sure to differentiate between median family vs median male or median female.
Manhattan. End of discussion on that.
Yes, just like Mass Exodus. Remember that? END OF MA BUSINESS! Right, sure, door -> butt etc.
are you suggestng Manhattan has a good work life balance? huh? fro families? you'd have to make huge $$$ to live there, you'd have to send your kids to private schools, crowds, crime, parking, everyting is incredibly expensive
Serioulsy, are you out of your mind?
while I agree with you that companies dont care about your quality of life, the quality of life of an area is what attracts talented people. Its not about only money. people want work/life balance and most cities cannot offer that.
I agree with that 100%...
There's a reason I won't work in the City.
I could make more money, but my quality of life would not be where it is.
I would be spending much more time commuting. I've managed so far to keep my commute to roughly 35-40 minutes wherever I've worked.
10 Minutes would be awesome....
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
Its not about only money. people want work/life balance and most cities cannot offer that.
Now since its not about money, we'll go on your premise that those living in those places can afford it, therefore they're there for the work/life balance.
So, where you're living, list the number of the following there are:
World class theatres (where you might see say, Mathew Broderick doing a show)
World class restaurants (we'll be fair, 4 star or above)
World class museums (no explanation needed)
World class art galleries (no cowboy hats allowed)
World class views (something to compliment eben's work)
World class shops (those spence WOULD be found in)
Also while we're at it, if Texas is doing so great at job creation, why is its unemployment rate back up?
Now since its not about money, we'll go on your premise that those living in those places can afford it, therefore they're there for the work/life balance.
So, where you're living, list the number of the following there are:
World class theatres (where you might see say, Mathew Broderick doing a show)
World class restaurants (we'll be fair, 4 star or above)
World class museums (no explanation needed)
World class art galleries (no cowboy hats allowed)
World class views (something to compliment eben's work)
World class shops (those spence WOULD be found in)
Also while we're at it, if Texas is doing so great at job creation, why is its unemployment rate back up?
serioulsy? Are you really that narrow minded? Take a seat Likwid.
Ft Worth has one the largest cultural centers in the country
A few miles west of downtown Fort Worth, you can discover one of the largest arts districts in the nation.
The Fort Worth Cultural District features five internationally-recognized museums in a beautiful, park-like setting that are all acclaimed for their architecture, the quality of their collections and the programs they offer. This remarkable collection of museums in a single location has made Fort Worth a major destination for lovers of art and architecture.
Part of its surprising Cultural District (on Bowie Ave, west of downtown), the Kimbell Art Museum is, some say, the best ‘small’ art museum in the US, with a lovely naturally lit space for its Cezanne, Michelangelo and Caravaggio pieces. Its buffet lunch in its tranquil courtyard is one of Fort Worth’s favorite dining pleasures. Plus entrance is free!
well that covers museums and art and they're about 20 mins from my house. I didnt bother with dallas which has incredible science museums and aquariums
On to theatre!
theres bass hall in ft worth Bass Performance Hall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Built as a multi-purpose facility, the Hall is able to house symphony, ballet, opera, stage, musicals, and rock concerts and it is now the permanent home to the Fort Worth Symphony Orchestra, Texas Ballet Theater, Fort Worth Opera, and the Van Cliburn International Piano Competition and Cliburn Concerts. Performing Arts Fort Worth, which manages the Hall, also hosts its own performances here, including national touring Broadway productions and a family series.
Dallas has always been synonymous with shopping. We have it all. Dallas is home to the internationally recognized specialty store Neiman Marcus and it is also the site of America's oldest shopping center, Highland Park Village.
From unique boutiques to premier shopping malls and hip new shopping districts, Dallas has fashion buttoned up. Galleria Dallas, Northpark Center, Willow Bend Mall, Stonebriar Mall, West Village and Mockingbird Station are just a few of the shopping opportunities and areas that you shouldn't forego when you visit Dallas
I think that covers shopping too, but just in case, here is a vid from my neighboring town, we walk around here at night.....10 mins from my house
so I think we covered everything but views, but before we go there, I think you left out something I value - diversity. Texas is just bunch of white people, right?
Important to me since my wife is chinese
Wrong....
A sizable Koreatown can be found in Dallas, though this mostly commercial area of the city has not been officially designated as such.[25] Dallas has the largest Korean American community in Texas and second (to Atlanta) in the Southern US.
Dallas has a thriving vietnamese community
And lets not forget food! Asian Supermarkets in the Dallas Metroplex - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
that more than in the Boston metro area!
Now, you want views...not sure what to link to but google "beautiful views" dallas metroplex
Well, I think that does it. I've left out all the fairs, music festivals, jazz festival, cultural gathering. In a few weeks we go to the italian car festival and the week after the the annual wine festival in grapevine (somthing like 400,000 visitors)
Also, world class colleges and schools. My kids schools are rated 10, as exception, the highest rating there is
I've lived in San Francisco for years, my wife is from there, LA, and Boston area. Minutes from my house I have lakes, parks, shopping, culture, a fantastic music scene, restaurants, gourmet shops and can enjoy all of this for less that it would cost me to park in Boston.