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Old 09-28-2012, 12:42 PM   #1
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So that video proves she is a big fat liar. She also is hiding her personnel records from Harvard and Penn. Warren was listed as a minority law professor in the desk book of association of American law schools from 1986 to 1995. She is a liar and she took a job from someone based on this status.

Truth be told she could not be given citizenship into the Cherokee nation based on the level of her heritage why would she be allowed to use the status for career advancement.

Seems like an individual of questionable character to me
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The woman had a solid resume and has been recognized for her significant research. By any measure she was a very qualified candidate for the positions she's being accused of using status to gain.

The Cherokee Nation has no minimum "level of heritage" for tribal membership. The key factor is to have documentation proving lineage back to an ancestor on the Dawes Roll.

If Warren has *ANY* Cherokee blood she could apply for citizenship assuming she has evidence.

That being said. she probably wouldn't qualify for Native American status to gain preferential treatment for financial aid or special programs. Washington Post fact checked the Brown claims that she "checked the box" and couldn't find any evidence this actually occurred.

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Old 09-28-2012, 01:00 PM   #2
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Washington Post fact checked the Brown claims that she "checked the box" and couldn't find any evidence this actually occurred.

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Better call the washington post spence! You can have a late breaking, err, I mean old news, scoop for them!

After weeks of controversy, Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren said on Wednesday night that she did indeed tell the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard University that she was Native American.But she stipulated that the notification occurred only after she was hired by the two schools. The statement marks the first time Warren has explicitly stated that she self-identified as Native American to the law schools where she has been employed.

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Old 09-28-2012, 01:26 PM   #3
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Better call the washington post spence! You can have a late breaking, err, I mean old news, scoop for them!

After weeks of controversy, Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren said on Wednesday night that she did indeed tell the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard University that she was Native American.But she stipulated that the notification occurred only after she was hired by the two schools. The statement marks the first time Warren has explicitly stated that she self-identified as Native American to the law schools where she has been employed.
This doesn't contradict the statement I made above.

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This doesn't contradict the statement I made above.

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Agreed but she has not allowed the personnel files from Harvard and Penn to be released. So how could they gain evidentiary support of this. The fact of the matter is she was listed with minority status in the AALS.
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Agreed but she has not allowed the personnel files from Harvard and Penn to be released. So how could they gain evidentiary support of this. The fact of the matter is she was listed with minority status in the AALS.
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the fact of the matter is she told the schools she was, she admitted she did this.

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This doesn't contradict the statement I made above.

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it absolutley does, she admitted to "checking the box"

After weeks of controversy, Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren said on Wednesday night that she did indeed tell the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard University that she was Native American.But she stipulated that the notification occurred only after she was hired by the two schools. The statement marks the first time Warren has explicitly stated that she self-identified as Native American to the law schools where she has been employed.

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it absolutley does, she admitted to "checking the box"
The video at the top of this thread has her clearly stating that the people who hired her had no idea of her status.

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After weeks of controversy, Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren said on Wednesday night that she did indeed tell the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard University that she was Native American.But she stipulated that the notification occurred only after she was hired by the two schools. The statement marks the first time Warren has explicitly stated that she self-identified as Native American to the law schools where she has been employed.
Yes, AFTER she was hired.

I know the concept of time is a bit burdensome what with the two or three other facts to deal with.

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The video at the top of this thread has her clearly stating that the people who hired her had no idea of her status.


Yes, AFTER she was hired.

I know the concept of time is a bit burdensome what with the two or three other facts to deal with.

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irrelevant, you said there was no evidence she checked the box. What box are we talking about? She admitted she told them. I never said a word that she said she told them before she was hired? Neither did Brown.

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irrelevant, you said there was no evidence she checked the box. What box are we talking about? She admitted she told them. I never said a word that she said she told them before she was hired? Neither did Brown.
Yes, there's apparently no evidence she did checked the box to apply for a position. That doesn't mean she didn't tell them afterword.

As for your "Neither did Brown" remark...look to the debate:

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“That being said, she checked the box. And she had an opportunity actually to make a decision throughout her career when she applied at Penn and Harvard, she checked the box, claiming she was a native American, and, you know, clearly she’s not.”
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The Cherokee Nation has no minimum "level of heritage" for tribal membership.

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The US Government does(tax purposes).How ironic.
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