can someone cheer me up?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Dangles, must be difficult going through life as a victim, powerless to change the world. I am an idealist, I look for change and I look to bring change. Im glad you can sit back and say "well, #^&#^&#^&#^& happens, live with it". Thats what cowards do. Bunch of folks like you 300+ yrs ago said,"well, if the king wants us to pay the stamp tax, I guess we have to, no sense fighting it" Other guys with balls, cried bullshat, took up arms and guess what happened? I'll continue to move forward and change what I can. i see America quickly going down the crapper. I have an obligation to fight it. Its people that are forcing us downhill, nothing else. Im tired of fear dictating how I live.

What he said...

[Sea Dangles]

Jimmy,get some coffee and then read the post.Who is the victim crying pity me?
I love the country and I am optomistic for my childrens future,where do I paint myself as a victim?You can use your time shoveling sand against the tide if you think it will make a difference.
Last week I took my boys to DC for my first ever trip to the nations capital as well as theirs. My first trip simply because as a kid we lacked the resouces to go.I was fortunate to happen into the Pearl Harbor ceremony at the WW2 memorial,I would hate to tarnish their sacrifices by poopooing the current stste of affairs and lack of opportunity. Of all the people to whine about the economy it seems ironic that it would be two guys who just bought new boats.I feel bad for your kids if this is the message they are faced with on a daily basis. You embrace change so much that when things went the wrong way for you in Cupcakeland you decided to move rather than stay and make a difference.That is fortitude in the 21st century.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Jimmy,get some coffee and then read the post.Who is the victim crying pity me?
I love the country and I am optomistic for my childrens future,where do I paint myself as a victim?You can use your time shoveling sand against the tide if you think it will make a difference.
Last week I took my boys to DC for my first ever trip to the nations capital as well as theirs. My first trip simply because as a kid we lacked the resouces to go.I was fortunate to happen into the Pearl Harbor ceremony at the WW2 memorial,I would hate to tarnish their sacrifices by poopooing the current stste of affairs and lack of opportunity. Of all the people to whine about the economy it seems ironic that it would be two guys who just bought new boats.I feel bad for your kids if this is the message they are faced with on a daily basis. You embrace change so much that when things went the wrong way for you in Cupcakeland you decided to move rather than stay and make a difference.That is fortitude in the 21st century.

I moved because I was tired of my hour + commute. I now have 10 minute commute and can attend my kids school activities, something I couldnt do for years. Im also home every night for homework and sports. Those are things I control. My initial post was a response to 20 dead kids, calls for arming teachers, increased security at schools, events, etc. The result of fear is less and less freedom. I dont want an America like this and I guarantee no man or woman who sacrificed for our country wanted this either.
We take diversity training at work and then we have to ban holiday events because of the religious content. WTF? Where is the diversity and toleratiing different beliefs and ideals?
You paint yourself as a victim by stating things change, deal with it. Your responses seem to me like you are powerless to change whats around you. The Holocaust was change, should the Germans have just dealt with it? Thats right, they actually did just turn their heads.

Here is a little diddy i learned as a kid -

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Of all the people to whine about the economy it seems ironic that it would be two guys who just bought new boats.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

-spence

Those of us who can afford new boats understand the risks and impacts of lousy economic polices. Some of us are in weekly meetings planning for the impact of the fiscal cliff, higher taxes, low interest rates, etc. To some of us, the economy is not something we read about, its what we work in. Those that have nothing to lose or those who do not work for a living need not be concerned.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Those of us who can afford new boats understand the risks and impacts of lousy economic polices. Some of us are in weekly meetings planning for the impact of the fiscal cliff, higher taxes, low interest rates, etc. To some of us, the economy is not something we read about, its what we work in. Those that have nothing to lose or those who do not work for a living need not be concerned.

I see, so you're just smarter than the poor people. Had no idea I was in such elite company

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

I see, so you're just smarter than the poor people. Had no idea I was in such elite company

-spence

Elite company, well thanks to your boy Obama I am constantly reminded that I make up the very top of earners in this country. Must be some reason?
Spence, please give you job away to the poor. Obvioulsy they deserve it more than you, right?

[Jim in CT]

SeaDangles - Yeah I bought a new boat. My household is doing OK. You think that means I have no reason to comlain about the economy? Here's what you and Spence cannot grasp...I don't assume my experience is reflective of everyone else. If I'm doing well, but record numbers of people are struggling, then I say 'things stink'. Maybe you are so self-centered that you view the world through the lens of how it only affects you, but I don't.

Maybe you and Spence are only concerned with how you are personally doing. Some of us care about the welfare of everyone.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Elite company, well thanks to your boy Obama I am constantly reminded that I make up the very top of earners in this country. Must be some reason?

According to Obama, the reason is that you stole your wealth from the poor. Preferably poor black people.