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Old 01-31-2025, 06:53 AM   #1
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Marsh went to work. Meanwhile the crybabies and jackasses continue their crash and burn. Its been fun to watch the complete emotional breakdown of the TDS suckers.

This thread has been my gift to you idiots. Its got legs and will restore life to SB.com..... a former fishing site. A special safe place for you that are afflicted to support each other, ease your pain and fuel your hatred....not good to keep that bottled up.
And now I will take my leave....hope you all survive this tragedy.
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Marsh went to work. Meanwhile the crybabies and jackasses continue their crash and burn. Its been fun to watch the complete emotional breakdown of the TDS suckers.

This thread has been my gift to you idiots. Its got legs and will restore life to SB.com..... a former fishing site. A special safe place for you that are afflicted to support each other, ease your pain and fuel your hatred....not good to keep that bottled up.
And now I will take my leave....hope you all survive this tragedy.
I don't know why you need to constantly insult people. You got kicked off SOL political forum in like 2 days. I think that was a record
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Old 01-30-2025, 12:41 PM   #3
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While the FFOTUS blames women, minorities and disabled

➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

It's not "politicizing a tragedy" to point out the top levels of the federal government aren't functional—the three key leaders here are drunk rapist TV show host at DoD, reality TV star at DoT, and nobody at FAA—and they're doing squat except spreading the same dysfunction down the ladder.

Meanwhile the FFOTUS is blaming the last administration….

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Old 01-30-2025, 01:24 PM   #4
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While the FFOTUS blames women, minorities and disabled

➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

It's not "politicizing a tragedy" to point out the top levels of the federal government aren't functional—the three key leaders here are drunk rapist TV show host at DoD, reality TV star at DoT, and nobody at FAA—and they're doing squat except spreading the same dysfunction down the ladder.

Meanwhile the FFOTUS is blaming the last administration….

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Not only did he blame the past administration (as usual no shocker there), he was unbelievably insensitive to the families of the lost with his vivid description of the icy water and they way they exploded, he has zero empathy.
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he has zero empathy.
When interviewed, the main prosecutor who prosecuted all German nazi’s said that the one common trait they all shared was a complete lack of empathy.
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Old 01-31-2025, 02:41 AM   #6
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➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
In the interest of accuracy I’d note that technically he resigned before his tenure was up. Seems like Co-President Elon believes the FAA, what with it fining SpaceX over their rockets blowing up, you know those spectular unscheduled disassembles that rain debris over people and disrupt air travel, those things are stifling innovation necessary to colonize Mars.
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Old 01-30-2025, 01:47 PM   #7
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The policy FFOTUS blames Biden for existed during his own previous administration
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/01/...i-initiatives/
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Old 01-30-2025, 07:09 PM   #8
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Trump baselessly blames diversity program for fatal air collision

1 person here agrees with Trump. Any guesses
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Old 01-30-2025, 08:26 PM   #9
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Trump, Vance, Hegseth, and Combs all said they were briefed on the collision, so they all knew about the internal FAA report that said only one of the two air traffic controller seats was occupied at the time of the accident when they went on TV to blame minorities for the crash.
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Trump, Vance, Hegseth, and Combs all said they were briefed on the collision, so they all knew about the internal FAA report that said only one of the two air traffic controller seats was occupied at the time of the accident when they went on TV to blame minorities for the crash.
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Watch what happens when Pres. Musk cuts a big % of fed ees. Total chaos.
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Old 01-30-2025, 09:21 PM   #11
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A woman pardoned less than two weeks ago by President Trump has been sentenced to 10 years in prison after pleading guilty to killing a person while drunk driving.
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Marsh is an angry bitter troll, his crap just rolls off my back, he is under the misguided impression he has successfully baited us. His problem is he doesn’t understand there is a rational political conversation going on, which he is really incapable of contributing anything constructive to shy of insults and Trump party line BS. He really is a sad pathetic individual, i can’t even imagine how he relates to others outside of this forum (or that SOL) who aren’y cult members.
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Marsh is an angry bitter troll, his crap just rolls off my back, he is under the misguided impression he has successfully baited us. His problem is he doesn’t understand there is a rational political conversation going on, which he is really incapable of contributing anything constructive to shy of insults and Trump party line BS. He really is a sad pathetic individual, i can’t even imagine how he relates to others outside of this forum (or that SOL) who aren’y cult members.
Probably relates fine to ESL people.

He’s likely busy today.

It will not shock you to learn that MAGA influencers have been spreading the lie that the pilot of the Blackhawk helicopter that collided with the American Airlines flight was a trans woman.

Jo Ellis, the trans woman they have accused of being the pilot, had to film a video to prove it wasn’t her.
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I would bet he would help on a carpentry issue in a min. It's the political stuff that gets him.
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Old 01-31-2025, 02:45 PM   #15
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FFOTUS probably is looking for someone to do some carpentry work.
Might be eye opening
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uits/85297274/
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If you’re interested in what’s happening at the FBI, this reporter knows what he’s talking about

https://www.doomsdayscenario.co/p/a-...i-purge-begins
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Might just want to start calling it the gazpacho moving forward.
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Well the results are in 25% tariffs on Canadian imports. Watch what lumber prices too after this kicks in.
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Old 01-31-2025, 07:30 PM   #19
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It looks like this immigrant now controls more of the government than the First Felon.
We’re heading for the first Technofeudalist coup.

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This is the critical battle to restore power to the
PEOPLE from the massive unelected bureaucracy!
If your elected representatives cannot overcome the bureaucrats who control government, then you live in a BUREAUcracy, not a DEMOcracy!
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They have moved sofa beds onto the fifth floor of the agency's headquarters, which contains the director's office and can only be accessed with a security badge or a security escort, an OPM employee said.

Just like at Twitter.🤷#^&♀️

"It feels like a hostile takeover."
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How the rest of the world sees what’s happening in US government?

Musk Junta Seizes Key Governmental Offices
February 1, 2025
By William Boot
WASHINGTON, D.C. — What started Thursday as a political purge of the internal security services accelerated Friday into a full-blown coup, as elite technical units aligned with oligarch Elon Musk moved to seize key systems at the national treasury, block outside access to federal personnel records, and take offline governmental communication networks.
With rapidity that has stunned even longtime political observers, forces loyal to Musk’s junta have established him as the all-but undisputed unelected head of government in just a matter of days, unwinding the longtime democracy’s constitutional system and its proud nearly 250-year-old tradition of the rule of law. Having secured themselves in key ministries and in a building adjacent to the presidential office complex, Musk’s forces have begun issuing directives to civil service workers and forcing the resignation of officials deemed insufficiently loyal, like the head of the country’s aviation authority.

The G-7 country’s newly installed president, a mid-level oligarch named Donald Trump, appeared amid Musk’s moves to be increasingly merely a figurehead head of state. Trump is a convicted felon with a long record of family corruption and returned in power in late January after a four-year interlude promising retribution and retaliation against foreign opponents and a domestic “Deep State.” He had been charged with attempting to overthrow the peaceful transition of power that had previously removed him from office in 2021, but loyalist elements in the judiciary successfully blocked his prosecution and incarceration, easing his return to power.
Over the last two weeks, loyalist presidential factions and Musk-backed teams have launched sweeping, illegal Stalin-esque purges of the national police forces and prosecutors, as well as offices known as inspectors-general, who are typically responsible for investigating government corruption. While official numbers of the unprecedented ousters were kept secret, rumors swirled in the capital that the scores of career officials affected by the initial purges could rise into the thousands as political commissars continued to assess the backgrounds of members of the police forces.
The mentally declining and aging head of state, who has long embraced conspiracist thinking, spent much of the week railing in bizarre public remarks against the country’s oppressed racial and ethnic minorities, whom he blamed without evidence for causing a deadly plane crash across the river from the presidential mansion. Unfounded racist attacks on those minorities have been a key foundation of Trump’s unpredicted rise to political power from a career as a real estate magnate and reality TV host and date back to his first announcement that he would seek the presidency in 2015, when he railed against “rapists” being sent into the country from its southern neighbor.
In one of his first moves upon returning to the presidency, he mobilized far-right paramilitary security forces to begin raids at churches, schools, and workplaces to identify and remove racial minorities, including those who had long lived in harmony with the country’s white Christian majority.
Underscoring his apparent disconnection from reality, reports surfaced that the president had ordered military forces to unleash an environmental catastrophe and flood regions of a separatist province known as California that was led by a high-profile political opponent. The order underscored how the military, which had resisted Trump’s unconstitutional power grabs in his first administration, was now led by a subservient defense minister, a favored TV personality with no experience in management who faced an embarrassing series of allegations about his drunken behavior in the workplace.
Both the country’s defense minister, who has previously said he does not believe women should be allowed to serve in combat roles, and Trump’s new interior minister, who appeared on national TV wearing the paramilitary uniform of the border security force central to Trump’s political rise, spent much of their first days echoing and amplifying the president’s hysteria about racial and ethnic minorities. They and other government officials also immediately canceled all official observances of religious and ethnic minority holidays and launched efforts to scrub official websites and prohibit educating workers or schoolchildren about those minorities’ long, proud history in the country.

The administration’s propaganda minister also announced Friday, apparently with little preparation, that it would initiate an immediate, unexpected, and seemingly ill-considered trade war with the country’s two primary economic partners, a move that if implemented would upend the national economy, disrupt supply chains, and accelerate the return of an inflationary crisis that has roiled domestic politics over the last five years and had just seemed to be returning to normal.
The country’s other business oligarchs have watched Musk’s unexpected and rapid rise to power with trepidation, and leading media and technology companies who compete with Musk’s extensive business empire—like Meta, Amazon, Disney, Paramount, Apple, and OpenAI—have quickly lined up to negotiate and pay bribes to the president that would allow their companies to operate unimpeded; initial payment terms ranged from million-dollar gifts to the presidential inauguration to $15 million and $25 million payments, made by Disney and Meta, to fund the construction of a presidential shrine. It was unclear, exactly, what deal terms those payments unlocked and when subsequent tribute payments would be expected.
Throughout the week’s fast-moving seizure of power—one that seems increasingly irreversible by the hour—neither loyalist nor opposition parliamentary leaders raised meaningful objection to the new regime or the unraveling of the country’s constitutional system of checks and balances. A few members of the geriatric Parliament offered scattered social media posts condemning the move, but parliament — where both houses are controlled by so-called “MAGA” members handpicked for their loyalty to the president — went home early for the weekend even as Musk’s forces spread through the capital streets.
It was unclear what role, if any, Musk’s forces would allow parliament to have in the new governmental structure by the time it returned to the national assembly known as Capitol Hill.
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The best, most cogent and elegantly simple explanation into the inexplicably destructive negotiating processes of the president, by Prof. David Honig of Indiana University.
Everybody I know should read this accurate and enlightening piece...
“I’m going to get a little wonky and write about Donald Trump and negotiations. For those who don't know, I'm an adjunct professor at Indiana University - Robert H. McKinney School of Law and I teach negotiations. Okay, here goes.
Trump, as most of us know, is the credited author of "The Art of the Deal," a book that was actually ghost written by a man named Tony Schwartz, who was given access to Trump and wrote based upon his observations. If you've read The Art of the Deal, or if you've followed Trump lately, you'll know, even if you didn't know the label, that he sees all dealmaking as what we call "distributive bargaining."
Distributive bargaining always has a winner and a loser. It happens when there is a fixed quantity of something and two sides are fighting over how it gets distributed. Think of it as a pie and you're fighting over who gets how many pieces. In Trump's world, the bargaining was for a building, or for construction work, or subcontractors. He perceives a successful bargain as one in which there is a winner and a loser, so if he pays less than the seller wants, he wins. The more he saves the more he wins.
The other type of bargaining is called integrative bargaining. In integrative bargaining the two sides don't have a complete conflict of interest, and it is possible to reach mutually beneficial agreements. Think of it, not a single pie to be divided by two hungry people, but as a baker and a caterer negotiating over how many pies will be baked at what prices, and the nature of their ongoing relationship after this one gig is over.
The problem with Trump is that he sees only distributive bargaining in an international world that requires integrative bargaining. He can raise tariffs, but so can other countries. He can't demand they not respond. There is no defined end to the negotiation and there is no simple winner and loser. There are always more pies to be baked. Further, negotiations aren't binary. China's choices aren't (a) buy soybeans from US farmers, or (b) don't buy soybeans. They can also (c) buy soybeans from Russia, or Argentina, or Brazil, or Canada, etc. That completely strips the distributive bargainer of his power to win or lose, to control the negotiation.
One of the risks of distributive bargaining is bad will. In a one-time distributive bargain, e.g. negotiating with the cabinet maker in your casino about whether you're going to pay his whole bill or demand a discount, you don't have to worry about your ongoing credibility or the next deal. If you do that to the cabinet maker, you can bet he won't agree to do the cabinets in your next casino, and you're going to have to find another cabinet maker.
There isn't another Canada.
So when you approach international negotiation, in a world as complex as ours, with integrated economies and multiple buyers and sellers, you simply must approach them through integrative bargaining. If you attempt distributive bargaining, success is impossible. And we see that already.
Trump has raised tariffs on China. China responded, in addition to raising tariffs on US goods, by dropping all its soybean orders from the US and buying them from Russia. The effect is not only to cause tremendous harm to US farmers, but also to increase Russian revenue, making Russia less susceptible to sanctions and boycotts, increasing its economic and political power in the world, and reducing ours. Trump saw steel and aluminum and thought it would be an easy win, BECAUSE HE SAW ONLY STEEL AND ALUMINUM - HE SEES EVERY NEGOTIATION AS DISTRIBUTIVE. China saw it as integrative, and integrated Russia and its soybean purchase orders into a far more complex negotiation ecosystem.
Trump has the same weakness politically. For every winner there must be a loser. And that's just not how politics works, not over the long run.
For people who study negotiations, this is incredibly basic stuff, negotiations 101, definitions you learn before you even start talking about styles and tactics. And here's another huge problem for us.
Trump is utterly convinced that his experience in a closely held real estate company has prepared him to run a nation, and therefore he rejects the advice of people who spent entire careers studying the nuances of international negotiations and diplomacy. But the leaders on the other side of the table have not eschewed expertise, they have embraced it. And that means they look at Trump and, given his very limited tool chest and his blindly distributive understanding of negotiation, they know exactly what he is going to do and exactly how to respond to it.
From a professional negotiation point of view, Trump isn't even bringing checkers to a chess match. He's bringing a quarter that he insists of flipping for heads or tails, while everybody else is studying the chess board to decide whether its better to open with Najdorf or Grünfeld.”
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That is a good description of Trump, simple version is nobody deals with a bully twice.
BRICS is watching and FFOTUS’ good friend Xi Jinping is very happy
He’s talking to prospective allies, saying join us and we will help you build infrastructure, develop your resources and grow your economy along with us.
Mao has been gone for fifty years
You won’t have to deal with new policy with every administration or the 🤡🐂💩
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