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11-09-2006, 10:30 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Goo Goo
Any weight in these? Wood type? I will need to fabricate some of those eyes and that very thin stock material lip that screws onto the front of the plug. Any pictures of those eyes or the plug itself. I have one VB lent me, yes Peter I still got it, but the eyes are not in great shape. Thanks for the help. Paul
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-09-2006, 10:44 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Centerville
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Paul I think the original eyes where beads cut in half with a small nail tacking it on
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11-09-2006, 11:42 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Paul, I also think NJTackle sells the GooGoo lips so that may save you some work.
I checked out an original a couple months back and they didn't look like they had any weight in them......felt real light.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-09-2006, 11:46 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Somebody reissued these some years back. The big ones I have (which are not originals) weigh 4.56 oz. I suspect they are birch, since I can't see that they are weighted and they weigh too much to be pine at that size (and one of mine has cracked which pine doesn't usually do). I have a smaller original that I think is pine and weighs 2.4 oz. You're welcome to borrow one if you want.
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11-09-2006, 11:53 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Numbskull..
Pics?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-09-2006, 11:53 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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The one I have is very light I don't think it is weighted. Also screweyes not thru wired, which I will do. That's right, I will look into the lips, I forgot that they make them. Thanks daddy. Thanks George maybe I will stop by. I know I said that before but this time I mean it. I will Pm you this week for directions and time the is convenient for you. P.
Last edited by ProfessorM; 11-09-2006 at 11:58 AM..
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-09-2006, 11:55 AM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
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put vb's through the bandsaw...that'll tell all.
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BOAT fish do count.
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11-09-2006, 12:16 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Some Pics
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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11-09-2006, 12:24 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capesams
put vb's through the bandsaw...that'll tell all.
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OK. Is that ok with you pete????  Steve say's it's ok with him. Maybe I will send it to BS Ed to have it done professionally. |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-09-2006, 12:37 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Thanks TDF. The blue one on top's eyes look right.
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11-09-2006, 01:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Paul, I got a bunch of originals. Some night I will pick up Numby and we will take a ride to your shop to show you. You can borrow wahtever you want. Let me know.  |
Why even try......... 
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11-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
OK. Is that ok with you pete???? Steve say's it's ok with him. Maybe I will send it to BS Ed to have it done professionally. |
Sure, u can, I can't remember what I gave you ...lol 
You going to make the small needle / swimmers ? Or da big boys?
A nice jointed one?
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11-09-2006, 01:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,595
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This one is 6 1/2 inch long weight is 1.5 oz
Screw eye, Jointed
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11-09-2006, 02:17 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaptail
Paul, I got a bunch of originals. Some night I will pick up Numby and we will take a ride to your shop to show you. You can borrow wahtever you want. Let me know. |
That would be fabulous Steve. Just drop me a line before you come so I make sure I am there. Thanks |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-09-2006, 02:21 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Peter Peter.  That's right I gave you back all those plugs didn't I.  I would never cut that beater up. I am looking to build the bigger trolling one. That jointed thing is very interesting. I love those eye's. Maybe a troller with a groove for a skin. Let me see a few more colors. Thanks P. |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-09-2006, 04:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Paul, I am not a big goo goo I collector , But the colors are nothing special. Do your own 
Do you have the huge one with the grove for an eel skin 
The only nice colors were the marble ones,,,Steve will show ya 
VB |
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11-09-2006, 04:28 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Yes I got that one with the groove. Seems some have the big bulging eyes and some don't. Thanks for the photo's.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-09-2006, 05:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 373
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goo goo's
I posted some pics of my goo goo collection a while back. If you look up my posts in this forum
you should find them. Let me know if you want any close ups etc and I would be happy to post them. I have made some goo goo styles up. They are pretty easy to do. They were made with many types of eyes over the years. They first had a bead nailed in and painted. Later on they had different types of doll or animal eyes ranging from 9 to 10 millimeters some veined and some not colors were yellow and amber. I recently found some 9 mm veined green ones that work pretty well. One story my mother, who knew Leo Cooper, told me is that he countersunk them a. Little so that air bubbles may come off the plug. No idea if that is true but is interesting anyway. That big daddy is a great plug. A blue one caught the 54 lb bass in my avatar. Got to run I am typing this on my blackberry on the train and fingers are getting tired.
Eric
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11-09-2006, 05:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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I wondered what happened to your avatar..... Were Goo-goos meant for trolling rather than casting? The one I have feels like it'd cast like an egg carton.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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11-09-2006, 05:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Capt. Frank Sabatowski, who captained Charlie Cinto on the night of his world record (unofficial to the IGFA but still official to me) with a Blue Goo Goo Eye used to wire them through himself and he also grooved his for eelskins. Capt Ron Murphy of the Stray Cat out of Hyannis and who is an old friend of mine got a bunch of Sabby's plugs from his widow when Sabby died. 99% of them were Goo Goos only a few Atom 40's in the pile.
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Why even try.........
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11-09-2006, 06:50 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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No need to bandsaw ... I've stripped some down bare naked and re-finished,,,and reassembled ,, No Weighting
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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11-09-2006, 07:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Attleboro, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vineyardblues
Paul, I am not a big goo goo I collector , But the colors are nothing special. Do your own
Do you have the huge one with the grove for an eel skin
The only nice colors were the marble ones,,,Steve will show ya
VB |
Like this one.......  |
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11-09-2006, 07:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 373
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I also do not think the big ones were weighted. The poppers have a little bit of weight you can see on the bottom. I've never cut one open yet though. Don't have one that is enough of a beater.
The big ones don't cast very well I have found. My grandfather however caught a 60 lb'er on a blue goo goo swimmer off scituate many years ago, so they do cast well enough to catch fish.
I've caught a good amount of bluefish on the little 4" swimmers. They hold up pretty well I think with the screw eyes and being made out of a softer wood.
Here is a link to some pics I posted a while back.
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=30022 |
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11-09-2006, 07:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Paul, go to page 6 of the Some Plugs thread.
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Why even try.........
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11-10-2006, 05:29 AM
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Westcoaster
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 45
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Goo Goo Eyes
I've have a few Goo Goos and they changed the eyes at one point, but I don't know which one came first - I suspect the eye using the big headed brad was first.
Here are a few closeups of the eyes. I took some apart awhile ago to refinish them and don't have the parts with me. I can take a picture of the removed eye if you want, but I remember the eyes being almost completely round with a hole drilled thru with a counterbore for the brad head.
The first 2 pictures show the eye with the recessed brad head (black pupil).
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11-10-2006, 05:34 AM
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Westcoaster
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 45
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Goo Goo Eyes part 2
Here are 2 pictures of the other Goo Goo eyes - solid plastic. I haven't taken any apart to refinish that have these eyes so I don't know what is below the wood. The eye diameter is 1cm.
The big Goo Goos and the Husky Dudes that I sanded down didn't have any weights in them.
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11-10-2006, 05:55 AM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
Posts: 4,860
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1...solid yellow bead eye was first
2...see through bead was second
3..stick on yellow was third
3...brown teddy bear stick on came forth in line
what their using now I havn't a clue...cooper's are still being made today by some co.
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BOAT fish do count.
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11-10-2006, 06:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by capesams
1...solid yellow bead eye was first
2...see through bead was second
3..stick on yellow was third
3...brown teddy bear stick on came forth in line
what their using now I havn't a clue...cooper's are still being made today by some co.
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Cuttyhunk Lures out of Westport ma.
The last quality version of the Goo Goo Eye was made by M&M Tackle Co and waas called the "Big Jake" |
Why even try.........
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11-10-2006, 07:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Attleboro, MA
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I have a goo goo with one of the eyes missing. It's a pretty deep drilled hole. I will take a picture when I get a chance.
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