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Jim in CT 02-03-2022, 01:39 PM Ohio secretary of state finds 27 potentially illegal votes
out of 6 million Cast
Investigation finds only 475 cases of potential voter fraud in battleground states won by Biden looks like there is no issue with voter integrity . unless your a republican?
But for the Cult 475 case proves voter fraud exist and their conspiracy it proven
but voter Fraud looks like this
A Wisconsin man who mistakenly thought he could vote while on parole.
A woman in Arizona suspected of sending in a ballot for her dead mother.
A Pennsylvania man who went twice to the polls, voting once on his own behalf and once for his son.
There was no widespread, coordinated deceit... but dont tell Republicans or Trump fans just more fake news :bgi:
Fraud didn't win the election for Biden. But its probably not 27 votes out of 6 million either. How do they confirm absentee ballots wayne, do you know? Signatures, they compare signatures visually. Give me a break, how many people can spot signature fraud? That's a legitimate concern, one that can be completely eliminated if you make people show ids to get absentee ballots
How many places are there, where it's harder for blacks to get id's than whites?
Zero. Literally, zero. Which is even less than 27 out of 6 million.
Doesn't stop one side from saying id requirements are racist.
wdmso 02-03-2022, 03:58 PM Trump boasts of a ‘100-percent’ defeated ISIS Heard it from Someone else?
ISIS leader killed by US special forces in Syria raid, Biden says
How does that Happen?
wdmso 02-03-2022, 04:03 PM Fraud didn't win the election for Biden. But its probably not 27 votes out of 6 million either. How do they confirm absentee ballots wayne, do you know? Signatures, they compare signatures visually. Give me a break, how many people can spot signature fraud? That's a legitimate concern, one that can be completely eliminated if you make people show ids to get absentee ballots
How many places are there, where it's harder for blacks to get id's than whites?
Zero. Literally, zero. Which is even less than 27 out of 6 million.
Doesn't stop one side from saying id requirements are racist.
What not enough Facts for you Jim theses results are coming from Members of your own Party ! with or without voter ID another red herring
Just admitted you believe trump's Big Lie and the reason why Republicans Have changed Voting Laws you can't have a legitimate concern when the reason claimed does not exist ..
Jim in CT 02-03-2022, 04:10 PM What not enough Facts for you Jim theses results are coming from Members of your own Party ! with or without voter ID another red herring
Just admitted you believe trump's Big Lie and the reason why Republicans Have changed Voting Laws you can't have a legitimate concern when the reason claimed does not exist ..
How many voting volunteers are effective trained to actually spot signature irregularities?
How did Ohio determine that all the absentee ballots were valid? I'm asking a question, and I know that you don't know the answer. But you'll insist the absentee ballots were legit, not because you have any reason to believe it, but because it helps liberalism.
For the second time...how many states have harder rules for blacks to get an id, than whites?
Pete F. 02-03-2022, 04:22 PM Fraud didn't win the election for Biden. But its probably not 27 votes out of 6 million either. How do they confirm absentee ballots wayne, do you know? Signatures, they compare signatures visually. Give me a break, how many people can spot signature fraud? That's a legitimate concern, one that can be completely eliminated if you make people show ids to get absentee ballots
How many places are there, where it's harder for blacks to get id's than whites?
Zero. Literally, zero. Which is even less than 27 out of 6 million.
Doesn't stop one side from saying id requirements are racist.
When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
The Impact of Voter Suppression on Communities of Color
Over the past decade, scholars have studied myriad ways in which certain state voting rules make participation disproportionately difficult for Americans of color — including strict voter ID laws, lines faced on Election Day, and other facets of our election system. This analysis catalogs some of the most prominent research findings on the negative impact of voting restrictions on voters of color.
There is a large and growing pile of evidence that strict voter ID laws disproportionately impact voters of color.
Using county-level turnout data around the country, researchers demonstrated that the racial turnout gap grew when states enacted strict voter ID laws.
Researchers have also looked specifically at the turnout of individuals in North Carolina without proper identification, and they found that the enactment of the law reduced turnout. The turnout effects continued even after the strict voter ID law was repealed.
Another study shows that voters in Texas who would be barred from voting absent the state’s “Reasonable Impediments Declaration” (a court-ordered remedy allowing voters without proper IDs to participate) are disproportionately Black and Latino. The study argues that its “findings indicate that strict identification laws will stop a disproportionately minority, otherwise willing set of registered voters from voting.”
An article using a similar methodology and administrative records found that voters of color in Michigan were more likely to show up to the polls without proper identification.
Yet another study used survey data to demonstrate that voters of color in states across the country lacked access to the needed IDs to vote in their state.
While some studies have argued that voter IDs have little effect on overall turnout, it is clear that voters of color are less likely to have the IDs needed to participate.
Restrictions on Sunday voting — such as those proposed last year in Georgia and Texas — would fall disproportionately on voters of color.
Our research showed that voters of color were substantially more likely to vote on Sundays in Georgia than white voters.
Another study argues that these Sunday voters do not seamlessly transition to other days after cuts are made. For example, when Sunday voting was outlawed in Florida in 2012, Black voters who voted on Sunday in 2008 were especially likely to abstain from voting.
Voters of color consistently face longer wait times on Election Day — lines that would be exacerbated by cutting alternative options, such as vote-by-mail or expansive early voting hours.
Our report from 2020 indicates that voters of color around the country reported longer wait times in the 2018 midterms, using self-reported wait times from a national survey.
Other researchers have used cellphone data to demonstrate the same thing: waits are longer in neighborhoods with more racial and ethnic minorities.
Other research — including work from the Brennan Center — has also used administrative data to show that polling places with fewer white voters have more slowdowns.
Even vote-by-mail options, however, don’t completely level the playing field. Voters of color face more difficulties voting by mail, too.
Our research shows that mail ballots were rejected at much higher rates than those of white voters in the Georgia primary in 2020.
Other studies have found that this was true in Georgia and Florida’s 2018 general elections, too.
Polling place consolidation is also especially harmful for the turnout of racial and ethnic minorities.
The Brennan Center authored the first academic study documenting the turnout effects of the Covid-19 pandemic. We showed that polling place consolidation severely depressed turnout in Milwaukee’s presidential primary — and that the effects were even larger for Black than white voters.
This joins other research showing that voters of color are disproportionately impacted by polling place closures. This may be due to worse transportation access.
detbuch 02-03-2022, 09:14 PM When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
This attempt at sharing a "pearl of wisdom" is more often used as a slogan to confirm an air of righteousness to a given agenda.
Privilege can be right or wrong or be earned or just be. Equality, given various contexts of oppression, can be a privilege.
So-called White Privilege is considered to be wrong or bad, not because of actual privileges, but because only whites have access to them. Because whites have created a system which gives them privileges denied to or at the expense of people of other colors.
The privilege accorded to the citizens of our republic, is not the elusive, probably unobtainable privilege of equality in this world of universal inequalities--except for only an equality before the law. It is, rather, the privilege of being free in this world of widespread oppression and having that freedom protected equally by the law.
"White Privilege" is, to me, mostly a misnomer. Many or most whites are not substantially privileged by being white. And many blacks access the supposed privilege by "acting white"--that is they do the things that whites do to actuate their so-called privilege. In that respect, actuating privilege is earning the privilege.
So long as we are free to earn our privileges, we should do well as a society. And if we concentrate on universal freedom rather than universal equality, we can achieve the privileges to our liking.
Pete F. 02-03-2022, 09:48 PM This attempt at sharing a "pearl of wisdom" is more often used as a slogan to confirm an air of righteousness to a given agenda.
Privilege can be right or wrong or be earned or just be. Equality, given various contexts of oppression, can be a privilege.
So-called White Privilege is considered to be wrong or bad, not because of actual privileges, but because only whites have access to them. Because whites have created a system which gives them privileges denied to or at the expense of people of other colors.
The privilege accorded to the citizens of our republic, is not the elusive, probably unobtainable privilege of equality in this world of universal inequalities--except for only an equality before the law. It is, rather, the privilege of being free in this world of widespread oppression and having that freedom protected equally by the law.
"White Privilege" is, to me, mostly a misnomer. Many or most whites are not substantially privileged by being white. And many blacks access the supposed privilege by "acting white"--that is they do the things that whites do to actuate their so-called privilege. In that respect, actuating privilege is earning the privilege.
So long as we are free to earn our privileges, we should do well as a society. And if we concentrate on universal freedom rather than universal equality, we can achieve the privileges to our liking.
Apparently in your opinion all the foolish blacks need to do is “act white”, a while ago it was act like the good Asians.
Yea, structural racism doesn’t exist
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detbuch 02-03-2022, 11:56 PM Apparently in your opinion all the foolish blacks need to do is “act white”, a while ago it was act like the good Asians.
Yea, structural racism doesn’t exist
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I put "act white" in quotes because it is the pejorative trope used by racist blacks or by black scholars who create theories such as Critical Race Theory to denigrate blacks who do the things that make it possible or make it easier to succeed in our American experiment. You know, those things that white folks always say you need to do--nuclear family, work ethic, good education, personal responsibility, and so forth. It is what's required for white folks to make their "privilege" work for them. So if you want some of that white privilege, "act white."
BTW, your slogan about privilege and equality doesn't quite hit the mark for CRTers. They're not so much about blacks achieving equality. They pretty much agree that legal equality has been achieved. But what has not occurred is equity. They're more about equity than equality. “Equity”, “social justice,” “diversity” and “inclusion.”
I didn't say that so-called "acting white" was "all" that was needed for black folks to succeed. I did mention that they, we, all need to be free to "act white" as it were. And that the role of government is to protect that freedom. The American experiment is about individual freedom and responsibility. The more we stray away from that and drift into needs for government enforced personal, societal, and racial equity, the more we become the dictatorship that you fear Trump would turn us into.
And yeah, if our Republic is structured in such a way as to require those personal values noted above characterized as "acting white" in order to succeed, and such "acting white" is racism, then, yeah, we have structural racism. And, yeah, there also exists a structural racism in black culture, or Asian culture. Guess it depends on which culture you wish to reside in--and on the law protecting your freedom to do so.
scottw 02-04-2022, 06:50 AM I put "act white" in quotes because it is the pejorative trope .....
plagiarism pete doesn't use quotation marks or understand the various and obvious uses of them apparently ;) but boy, he can't wait to tell you how racist you are
Pete F. 02-04-2022, 06:58 AM plagiarism pete doesn't use quotation marks or understand the various and obvious uses of them apparently ;) but boy, he can't wait to tell you how racist you are
I know, just think how unfortunate we all are to not have the advantage of being born black.
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Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 07:20 AM I know, just think how unfortunate we all are to not have the advantage of being born black.
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how come liberals flood their neighborhoods with abortion clinics, if they love blacks so much?
“we like blacks, as long as there aren’t too many, as long as they vote for us, and as long as they all
stay poor, not in line with me for the ferry to Nantucket”.
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PaulS 02-04-2022, 08:17 AM How about the R gov. heard on a hot mike saying "We love all fetus' until they are born and then we could care less. Let the Dems. worry about them"
Pete F. 02-04-2022, 09:07 AM how come liberals flood their neighborhoods with abortion clinics, if they love blacks so much?
“we like blacks, as long as there aren’t too many, as long as they vote for us, and as long as they all
stay poor, not in line with me for the ferry to Nantucket”.
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So who are you quoting there?
I thought the white wing quote was “we like blacks, as long as they behave, as long as they can’t vote, as long as they don’t complain that we get all the fruits of their labor and how dare one get elected President and vacation on the Vinyard”
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detbuch 02-04-2022, 09:57 AM I know, just think how unfortunate we all are to not have the advantage of being born black.
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Just think how fortunate we all are of being born.
And in America.
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 11:18 AM How about the R gov. heard on a hot mike saying "We love all fetus' until they are born and then we could care less. Let the Dems. worry about them"
except it’s obvious that republicans don’t believe that. we’ve discussed it, republicans are plenty charitable.
but it’s true that democrats want a lot of abortion clinics in urban areas. we know this, because demi data have out a lot of abortion clinics in urban areas. It’s not that complicated.
we know that the liberal solution to black poverty is more welfare checks. we know that congressional democrats HATED when trump celebrated lowest black unemployment ever, at his state of the union.
After decades of liberal control, fatherlessness is way up in our cities. liberals continue to mock
the things that would address that ( faith, nuclear family, traditional values).
your evidence that republicans don’t like people after they’re born, is what, exactly?
desperately howling at the moon.
republicans stop caring after the baby is born, all
kinds of evidence to support that pearl of wisdom.
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PaulS 02-04-2022, 11:23 AM Another quote that I found is "when attempting to refer to Blacks in a racist manor, make sure to use the word urban instead. We will know what you mean but then you won't be accused of being racist"
scottw 02-04-2022, 11:33 AM Another quote that I found is "when attempting to refer to Blacks in a racist manor, make sure to use the word urban instead. We will know what you mean but then you won't be accused of being racist"
this is your wheelhouse....
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 11:41 AM Another quote that I found is "when attempting to refer to Blacks in a racist manor, make sure to use the word urban instead. We will know what you mean but then you won't be accused of being racist"
so it’s “racist” to say that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas?
it’s not factually correct?
you’re losing it.
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wdmso 02-04-2022, 11:53 AM so it’s “racist” to say that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas?
it’s not factually correct?
you’re losing it.
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linguist gymnastic coach Speaks:lasso: remember Trump said go peacefully
So he could have influenced the Mob
scottw 02-04-2022, 12:08 PM if it's the republicans it is "armed gerrymandering"
if it is the democraps it is "peaceful redistricting"
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 12:09 PM linguist gymnastic coach Speaks:lasso: remember Trump said go peacefully
So he could have influenced the Mob
so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas, and that saying they do, is racist.
which makes about as much sense as saying that illegal immigration puts no strain on our economy, our schools, our hospitals, etc.
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Pete F. 02-04-2022, 12:22 PM so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas, and that saying they do, is racist.
which makes about as much sense as saying that illegal immigration puts no strain on our economy, our schools, our hospitals, etc.
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No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities
Elizabeth Kneebone, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, looked at numbers from the 2010 to 2014 American Community Survey and found that 39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities. That’s a noticeable shift from 2000, when 41 percent of African Americans lived in cities, 33 percent lived in suburbs, 15 percent lived in small metro areas, and 11 percent lived in rural communities.
There was a time when even more African Americans lived in urban areas: After the Great Migration, many blacks moved north for job opportunities. They were relegated to urban cores because they weren’t allowed to live anywhere else; policies such as redlining meant that they could only buy homes in certain neighborhoods, usually the places whites no longer wanted to live. In 1990, 57 percent of blacks lived in central cities, and 95 percent of blacks in the Northeast, Midwest, and West lived in metropolitan areas, according to Census data.
That has slowly been changing. Today, the majority—52 percent— of African Americans in the nation’s top 100 metro areas live in the suburbs of those regions, according to Kneebone. In 2000, the majority— 55 percent—of African Americans in the 100 largest metro areas lived in the big cities that anchor those regions.
PaulS 02-04-2022, 12:44 PM No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities
That doesn't fit the narrative.
scottw 02-04-2022, 12:54 PM No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities
.
who are you responding to? because that's not what he said...
Pete F. 02-04-2022, 12:59 PM who are you responding to? because that's not what he said...
so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 01:03 PM No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities
Elizabeth Kneebone, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, looked at numbers from the 2010 to 2014 American Community Survey and found that 39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities. That’s a noticeable shift from 2000, when 41 percent of African Americans lived in cities, 33 percent lived in suburbs, 15 percent lived in small metro areas, and 11 percent lived in rural communities.
There was a time when even more African Americans lived in urban areas: After the Great Migration, many blacks moved north for job opportunities. They were relegated to urban cores because they weren’t allowed to live anywhere else; policies such as redlining meant that they could only buy homes in certain neighborhoods, usually the places whites no longer wanted to live. In 1990, 57 percent of blacks lived in central cities, and 95 percent of blacks in the Northeast, Midwest, and West lived in metropolitan areas, according to Census data.
That has slowly been changing. Today, the majority—52 percent— of African Americans in the nation’s top 100 metro areas live in the suburbs of those regions, according to Kneebone. In 2000, the majority— 55 percent—of African Americans in the 100 largest metro areas lived in the big cities that anchor those regions.
i didn't say "most". I said "disproportionately".
You idiots are going to deny that blacks disproportionately live in cities, simply because I said they do?
scottw 02-04-2022, 01:05 PM so you also deny that blacks disproportionately live in urban areas
I don't know honestly, should be easy to Google ..but that ^^ was the statement you wrote "disproportionately" and he responded with "live in poverty" and a cut and paste...he was responding to something you didn't say...as usual
Pete F. 02-04-2022, 01:20 PM i didn't say "most". I said "disproportionately".
You idiots are going to deny that blacks disproportionately live in cities, simply because I said they do?
WTF are you claiming?
scottw 02-04-2022, 01:33 PM WTF are you claiming?
I think he's claiming you are an idiot...
Pete F. 02-04-2022, 04:45 PM i didn't say "most". I said "disproportionately".
You idiots are going to deny that blacks disproportionately live in cities, simply because I said they do?
WTF are you claiming?
I think he's claiming you are an idiot...
Silly boy, big words have you confused?
Disproportionate is an adjective, not a noun.
disproportionate definition is to an extent that is too large or too small in comparison with something else.
"a tax cut would disproportionately benefit the rich"
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 05:31 PM I think he's claiming you are an idiot...
not exactly sticking your neck
out.
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detbuch 02-04-2022, 06:03 PM Silly boy, big words have you confused?
Disproportionate is an adjective, not a noun.
disproportionate definition is to an extent that is too large or too small in comparison with something else.
"a tax cut would disproportionately benefit the rich"
Silly boy, big words have you confused?
Disproportionate is an adjective, not a noun.
disproportionate definition is to an extent that is too large or too small in comparison with something else.
"a tax cut would disproportionately benefit the rich"
You may be a bit confused by the size of the word disproportionately which was the word Jim used. Disproportionately is an adverb, not an adjective.
Perhaps Jim simply meant that the proportion of the black population that lives in urban areas is larger than the proportion that lives in rural areas?
scottw 02-04-2022, 06:04 PM Silly boy, big words have you confused?
Disproportionate is an adjective, not a noun.
disproportionate definition is to an extent that is too large or too small in comparison with something else.
"a tax cut would disproportionately benefit the rich"
working pretty hard there :biglaugh:
wdmso 02-04-2022, 06:05 PM Pence says Trump is wrong to insist he could have overturned election results
He's Toast
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 06:16 PM You may be a bit confused by the size of the word disproportionately which was the word Jim used. Disproportionately is an adverb, not an adjective.
Perhaps Jim simply meant that the proportion of the black population that lives in urban areas is larger than the proportion that lives in rural areas?
here’s what i meant. blacks make up a higher percentage of urban areas, then they make up the general population.
blacks are about 12% of the us population, but 17% of the population or urban areas
over their heads. not over yours.
facts are racist now.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/
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Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 06:18 PM I don't know honestly, should be easy to Google ..but that ^^ was the statement you wrote "disproportionately" and he responded with "live in poverty" and a cut and paste...he was responding to something you didn't say...as usual
blacks make up 12% of the general population, and 17% of the population of urban areas.
disproportionate
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/
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Pete F. 02-04-2022, 06:37 PM Today is the day a major political party announced its support for a terrorist attack.
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Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 06:55 PM Pence says Trump is wrong to insist he could have overturned election results
He's Toast
if he keeps his status in the party, will you admit you were wrong?
he was asked to speak at the Federalist Society, who already knew that he didn’t participate in any Trump schemes. what does that tell you? anything?
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Pete F. 02-04-2022, 07:36 PM They censured Adam Kinzinger on the *same day* he starts his military duty
Just to protect a corrupt, twice impeached draft-dodger Trump.
Tells you everything you need to know about today’s GOP and its values.
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detbuch 02-04-2022, 07:47 PM They censured Adam Kinzinger on the *same day* he starts his military duty
Just to protect a corrupt, twice impeached draft-dodger Trump.
Tells you everything you need to know about today’s GOP and its values.
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As you like to say "poor victim".
Jim in CT 02-04-2022, 08:20 PM They censured Adam Kinzinger on the *same day* he starts his military duty
Just to protect a corrupt, twice impeached draft-dodger Trump.
Tells you everything you need to know about today’s GOP and its values.
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and yet, look at what happened in VA and in NJ and what every poll
says.
the desperation is showing.
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Pete F. 02-04-2022, 08:21 PM As you like to say "poor victim".
Unfortunately in this case democracy is the victim
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detbuch 02-04-2022, 09:21 PM Unfortunately in this case democracy is the victim
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VOTING to censure is making democracy a victim?
Pete F. 02-05-2022, 07:42 AM Mike Pence wouldn't have spoken out against Trump today unless he knows FOR CERTAIN Trump's in a world of trouble.
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 07:45 AM VOTING to censure is making democracy a victim?
RNC passed censure resolution of Cheney and Kinzinger without any discussion. Overwhelming voice vote of yes, with a few nos.
The resolution wasn't read or presented. The whole affair took about a minute.
No discussion, no debate, no recorded vote. It's not a political party. It's a herd of sheep.
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scottw 02-05-2022, 08:09 AM Mike Pence wouldn't have spoken out against Trump today unless he knows FOR CERTAIN Trump's in a world of trouble.
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maybe pence wants to be president?
scottw 02-05-2022, 08:10 AM FOR CERTAIN Trump's in a world of trouble.
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keep sticking pins in that doll pete...you'll get there eventually
Pete F. 02-05-2022, 08:25 AM Pence:
“President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election….The Presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President.”
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wdmso 02-05-2022, 10:14 AM Pence:
“President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election….The Presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President.”
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Imagine that Pence (super christian and follower of the“Billy Graham Rule " and because he told the Truth ! His own party sees him as kryptonite !
but Jim want us to believe since he " was asked to speak at the Federalist Society, who already knew that he didn’t participate in any Trump schemes. what does that tell you? anything?"
Wants us to find deeper meaning! seeing they invited him before he said what he said .. and a few walked out when he said it and the rest remained courteous..
But in true Conservative circles "no one cares what Pence has to say anymore. It is his fault or country was stolen by commie scum."
that's from the Base the RNC is kowtowing to
Jim in CT 02-05-2022, 10:17 AM Imagine that Pence (super christian and follower of the“Billy Graham Rule " and because he told the Truth ! His own party sees him as kryptonite !
but Jim want us to believe since he " was asked to speak at the Federalist Society, who already knew that he didn’t participate in any Trump schemes. what does that tell you? anything?"
Wants us to find deeper meaning! seeing they invited him before he said what he said .. and a few walked out when he said it and the rest remained courteous..
But in true Conservative circles "no one cares what Pence has to say anymore. It is his fault or country was stolen by commie scum."
that's from the Base the RNC is kowtowing to
what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence? We know you WANT that to be the case, but that doesn’t make it true.
who was that white you posted, attributed to, exactly? i assume there’s a reason why you posted some weird quote without sourcing it?
you say that quite is from “the base”? what does that mean?
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 10:33 AM Mike Pence was surrounded by a conspiracy to end democracy in America. He didn’t call the FBI. He didn’t alert the public. He waited to see if it would succeed. When it was clear it would fail, at the last minute he threw in with the winning side.
Pence’s staff testified to the J6 committee.
From the questions they were asked, Pence could surmise the extent of their knowledge of what crimes were committed byTrump and his inner circle.
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detbuch 02-05-2022, 10:48 AM RNC passed censure resolution of Cheney and Kinzinger without any discussion. Overwhelming voice vote of yes, with a few nos.
The resolution wasn't read or presented. The whole affair took about a minute.
No discussion, no debate, no recorded vote. It's not a political party. It's a herd of sheep.
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You're surmising, conjecturing, opining, that there had not been any discussion about the censure previously, that none of them knew what it was about, and they all just decided on the spur of the moment to OK let's censure these guys for the heck of it because Ronna McDaniel says to do it.
I heard the voice vote. It was overwhelmingly yes. There was an underwhelming barely audible teeny no. It was political democracy as usual. That's how democracy works. That's why we were founded as a Republic, not as a democracy.
scottw 02-05-2022, 10:58 AM pete is the king of drama queens....
Pete F. 02-05-2022, 11:10 AM pete is the king of drama queens....
Poor Sheep
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 11:12 AM You're surmising, conjecturing, opining, that there had not been any discussion about the censure previously, that none of them knew what it was about, and they all just decided on the spur of the moment to OK let's censure these guys for the heck of it because Ronna McDaniel says to do it.
I heard the voice vote. It was overwhelmingly yes. There was an underwhelming barely audible teeny no. It was political democracy as usual. That's how democracy works. That's why we were founded as a Republic, not as a democracy.
Next let’s rebrand the Civil War as the Legitimate Political Discourse Affair of 1861-1865
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 01:07 PM Overnight, it was revealed that DOJ subpoenaed the call records of the lawyer for Bannon and Giuliani, to get records on how Trump is trying to cover up Jan 6.
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wdmso 02-05-2022, 03:46 PM what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence? We know you WANT that to be the case, but that doesn’t make it true.
who was that white you posted, attributed to, exactly? i assume there’s a reason why you posted some weird quote without sourcing it?
you say that quite is from “the base”? what does that mean?
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what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence?
Again Jim do you read? do you even listen to what conservatives Say about any Republican who even looks the wrong way at Trump wont bend the knee no less call him out .... :faga: isn't cutting it
you say that quote is from “the base”? what does that mean?
its self explanatory Jim just like chanting Hang Mike Pence
You can't accuse those protester of being ambiguous
Jim in CT 02-05-2022, 03:49 PM what’s your evidence that the gop is turning on Pence?
Again Jim do you read? do you even listen to what conservatives Say about any Republican who even looks the wrong way at Trump wont bend the knee no less call him out .... :faga: isn't cutting it
you say that quote is from “the base”? what does that mean?
its self explanatory Jim just like chanting Hang Mike Pence
You can't accuse those protester of being ambiguous
i want to know where you got that quote. you afraid to say? you just making up quotes, and claiming they came from “the base”?
“you cant accuse those protester of being ambiguous”?
protester? what protester? can anyone please translate this from gibberish to english?
Desantis and Trump aren’t close, there’s rumors they dislike each other. Yet Desantis is an absolute rock star in the gop.
that kind of blows your theory out of the water that no one in the party can survive without bowing to trump.
please source that quote. i’d like to know you you say speaks for “ the base”.
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 06:53 PM Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022, 07:13 PM Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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did they attack pence?
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scottw 02-05-2022, 07:19 PM Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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so are you saying you think fox is biased????:bl:
The Dad Fisherman 02-05-2022, 07:46 PM Per transcripts, Fox has not covered Mike Pence rebuking Trump at all today. None of the channel's prime time shows covered it last night either.
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This was yesterday
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-trump-election-claim-unamerican.amp
Ever get tired of being wrong?
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022, 07:50 PM This was yesterday
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-trump-election-claim-unamerican.amp
Ever get tired of being wrong?
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but that doesn’t serve the Narrative! Won’t somebody please think about the Narrative!
Plus false equivalence, plus you took Jesse Waters out of context, plus shut up.
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The Dad Fisherman 02-05-2022, 08:44 PM Don’t forget to call me a racist…..
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 11:05 PM Sorry bad info, but I could wait 13 months to say something, like Pence.
He’s just come to the realization that Trump is going down and is looking for cover
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Pete F. 02-05-2022, 11:23 PM Bannon calls Pence a stone cold coward: “I can’t take Pence & all these guys up there ratting out Trump on Capitol Hill right now”
He said the quiet part out loud. You can’t “rat out” an innocent person
Trump, Bannon & their terrorist gang are guilty as hell & they all know it
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Jim in CT 02-05-2022, 11:24 PM Sorry bad info, but I could wait 13 months to say something, like Pence.
He’s just come to the realization that Trump is going down and is looking for cover
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had to get a dig in at a decent guy who refused to do what trump
wanted, has always said trump
was wrong. you can’t just admit it.
it’s not bad info, it’s a bad brain.
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Pete F. 02-06-2022, 08:07 AM had to get a dig in at a decent guy who refused to do what trump
wanted, has always said trump
was wrong. you can’t just admit it.
it’s not bad info, it’s a bad brain.
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He didn't stand up for the truth. He just couldn't get away with subverting it.
There's a lot more Pence could have said if he were serious.
John Kasich was on CNN with Erin Burnett asking where has Pence been for the last six years. "Real courage is speaking up when you have nothing to gain by doing it."
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Jim in CT 02-06-2022, 08:18 AM He didn't stand up for the truth. He just couldn't get away with subverting it.
There's a lot more Pence could have said if he were serious.
John Kasich was on CNN with Erin Burnett asking where has Pence been for the last six years. "Real courage is speaking up when you have nothing to gain by doing it."
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Kasich is a disgruntled reject whose intent is to besmirch those who rejected him.
The GOP should take lessons from
the democrats about how to take out their own garbage, Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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scottw 02-06-2022, 08:35 AM John Kasich was on CNN with Erin Burnett
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wait what?...who??? oh that guy...:laugha:
"Kasich is known as one of Trump's most prominent critics within the Republican Party, and he endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden for president in a speech at the 2020 Democratic National Convention."
Pete F. 02-06-2022, 08:42 AM Kasich is a disgruntled reject whose intent is to besmirch those who rejected him.
The GOP should take lessons from
the democrats about how to take out their own garbage, Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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So George Bush
Mitt Romney
John McCain
Carly Fiorina
George Will
John Kasich
Adam KinInger
Liz Cheney
Are now considered “RINOs”.
And their leading candidate is a corrupt, sexual predator, disgraced twice impeached Trump.
Tells you everything you need to about today’s GOP.
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wdmso 02-06-2022, 09:47 AM i want to know where you got that quote. you afraid to say? you just making up quotes, and claiming they came from “the base”?
is that your response Jim That I am making up Quotes you stink of desperation .. go to a where the base hangs out and read the comment sections
“you cant accuse those protester of being ambiguous”?
protester? what protester? can anyone please translate this from gibberish to english? wow you really love playing stupid (guess you never heard Hang Mike pence or where it was chanted )
Desantis and Trump aren’t close, there’s rumors they dislike each other. Yet Desantis is an absolute rock star in the gop.
that kind of blows your theory out of the water that no one in the party can survive without bowing to trump. not really Jim Desantis is Trumpism in Black Hair he's not bringing in new Republicans
please source that quote. i’d like to know you you say speaks for “ the base”. the base speak for themselves
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“He has become an absolute rock star among center-right voters and conservative voters,” said Peter Feaman, a member of the Republican National Committee from Florida. “All I have to do is mention his name, and the rooms immediately burst out in applause.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/23/how-rockstar-gov-ron-desantis-positioned-himself-t/ if found the source of your quote it's not hard or Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
DeSantis is a rock star. ‘Florida chose freedom over Faucism’: Gov. Ron DeSantis updates his status to ‘rock star’ looking like another Cult of personality is forming
detbuch 02-06-2022, 10:13 AM So George Bush
Mitt Romney
John McCain
Carly Fiorina
George Will
John Kasich
Adam KinInger
Liz Cheney
Are now considered “RINOs”.
Not just "now".
And their leading candidate is a corrupt, sexual predator, disgraced twice impeached Trump.
No more corrupt than many Democrat heros.
"Predator" is way overstating it. Clinton was more of a predator.
Being impeached by the opposing party whose main objective is to "disgrace" in order to claim that he has been disgraced is disgraceful.
Tells you everything you need to about today’s GOP.
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Nah.
Pete F. 02-06-2022, 10:37 AM Nah.
You’re right, I misspoke, career criminal would be more appropriate.
Here’s one of your real Republicans
Madison Cawthorn's Fox News clips, praising Russia's military might and deriding America's capabilities, are being broadcast on Russia's state TV. Perfect timing, in light of his St. Petersburg story being so widely discussed in the U.S.
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scottw 02-06-2022, 10:40 AM go to a where the base hangs out and read the comment sections
we rely on you for this honestly :laugha:
scottw 02-06-2022, 10:41 AM “[COLOR="red"]
not really Jim Desantis is Trumpism in Black Hair
who is Jim Desantis?
Jim in CT 02-06-2022, 11:06 AM “He has become an absolute rock star among center-right voters and conservative voters,” said Peter Feaman, a member of the Republican National Committee from Florida. “All I have to do is mention his name, and the rooms immediately burst out in applause.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/23/how-rockstar-gov-ron-desantis-positioned-himself-t/ if found the source of your quote it's not hard or Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
DeSantis is a rock star. ‘Florida chose freedom over Faucism’: Gov. Ron DeSantis updates his status to ‘rock star’ looking like another Cult of personality is forming
you literally made up a quote, put it in quotation marks, and attributed it to the gop base
that’s not discourse wayne, that’s insanity.
you guys all hear the same voices in your head, and respond only to what you WISH we were saying.
because you know you can’t respond to what we’re actually saying.
Desantis is a lot like trump ( but without the personal baggage), that’s why i love him, and why you’re scared sh*tless of him.
Desantis will advocate for policies that people like and which work. And you cant attack him as easily as we can attack trump. that’s why 60 minutes humiliated themselves by smearing him dishonestly.
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detbuch 02-06-2022, 11:43 AM You’re right, I misspoke, career criminal would be more appropriate.
Not sure what a "career criminal" is. But if someone has not been convicted of a crime, is that one of the qualifications for being a career criminal?
Here’s one of your real Republicans
Are you sure he is a real Republican? Are there any?
What is a real Republican? Someone who believes we are a Republic, not a Democracy?
Madison Cawthorn's Fox News clips, praising Russia's military might and deriding America's capabilities, are being broadcast on Russia's state TV. Perfect timing, in light of his St. Petersburg story being so widely discussed in the U.S.
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Geez, does anyone believe state media anymore, or even main stream media (kind of the same thing)?
Pete F. 02-06-2022, 01:53 PM On ABC, Chris Christie dismisses the RNC as Trump stooges: "This is just a majority of 168 people. And the RNC, most of those folks were put into place... by Donald Trump... Certainly, Ronna Romney McDaniel is carrying water for Donald Trump... Let's not make it bigger than it is."
Christie sides with Pence, against Trump, on the facts of 1/6: "Jan. 6 was a riot that was incited by Donald Trump in an effort to intimidate Mike Pence and the Congress into doing exactly what he said in his own words last week: overturn the election."
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detbuch 02-06-2022, 03:01 PM On ABC, Chris Christie dismisses the RNC as Trump stooges: "This is just a majority of 168 people. And the RNC, most of those folks were put into place... by Donald Trump... Certainly, Ronna Romney McDaniel is carrying water for Donald Trump... Let's not make it bigger than it is."
Christie sides with Pence, against Trump, on the facts of 1/6: "Jan. 6 was a riot that was incited by Donald Trump in an effort to intimidate Mike Pence and the Congress into doing exactly what he said in his own words last week: overturn the election."
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Well, if you and Chris say it, it must be true. Nah.
Pete F. 02-07-2022, 06:14 AM If you wanna know why the Republican Party cannot be saved, don’t listen to a crazy like Marjorie Taylor Greene, all you need to do is listen to a coward like Marco Rubio.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 06:22 AM If you wanna know why the Republican Party cannot be saved,
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first of all, rubies dancing there was embarrassing.
the gop can’t be saved? what just happened in VA and NJ?
Pete, here’s what every single one of you does. and i mean every single liberal here.
when you talk about the gop, all you ever do, is post examples of them doing bad things ( and there are a lot of examples). You ignore everything good, and desperately try to convince yourself that the bad stuff is all there is.
when you talk about democrats. al you ever do is post examples of them doing good things ( and there are plenty of examples). You ignore everything bad, and desperately try to convince yourself that the good stuff is all there is.
When you compare the two sides, and all you do is compare the gop failures to the democrats successes,,obviously that comparison makes the democrats look superior.
But is that a meaningful comparison?
Remember your comment that the gop cannot be saved, this. November.
Why can’t you admit the gop does some things well, and that democrats do some things poorly? what are you afraid will happen if you said that out loud?
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 06:23 AM From the National review: “The action of the mob on Jan 6 was#^&an indefensible disgrace. It is deserving of both#^&political accountability#^&and criminal prosecution. It is wrong to minimize or excuse what happened that day.”
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 06:26 AM Wonder what’s happening in Virginia
Youngkin’s team attacked a 17 year old activist for holding him accountable
The same Youngkin attacked the media simply for asking why his 17 year old son tried to vote illegally for him TWICE
Nepotism: one set of his rules for his own son and throwing everyone else to the dogs
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 06:27 AM Glenn Youngkin launched a tip line that allows parents to report any educators teaching “divisive” subjects, like critical race theory, in Virginia schools. It's been a disaster.
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 06:28 AM This woman calling out Glenn Youngkin for not wearing a mask is today’s hero!
https://twitter.com/jdcocchiarella/status/1489620173216796684?s=21
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scottw 02-07-2022, 07:21 AM This woman calling out Glenn Youngkin for not wearing a mask is today’s hero!
https://twitter.com/jdcocchiarella/status/1489620173216796684?s=21
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maybe you don't understand.....when you institute or support mask mandates and then you don't wear one in the places you required everyone else to wear them...you are a clown...we have many current examples
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 07:39 AM From the National review: “The action of the mob on Jan 6 was#^&an indefensible disgrace. It is deserving of both#^&political accountability#^&and criminal prosecution. It is wrong to minimize or excuse what happened that day.”
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Agreed. It's also wrong to fantastically exaggerate what happened that day. Wrong to charge them for crimes they didn't commit.
And it's wrong to assign blame, to tens of millions of registered republicans.
No one ever said the entire democratic party was responsible for the violent, feral anarchy during the summer of 2020. The rioters are responsible, no one else.
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 07:40 AM It's been a disaster.
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Based on what?
scottw 02-07-2022, 08:18 AM “The action of the mob on Jan 6 was#^&an indefensible disgrace.
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this is an accurate description of just about any mob action...except leftist mobs, they are the good mobs doing productive things
scottw 02-07-2022, 08:23 AM On ABC, Chris Christie
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we will gladly trade Christie and Kaesich for Manchin and Sinema...we'll even throw in a Chaffee(wait, I think he already hit free agency) you can have Cheney too
scottw 02-07-2022, 09:03 AM maybe you don't understand.....when you institute or support mask mandates and then you don't wear one in the places you required everyone else to wear them...you are a clown...we have many current examples
can't make this stuff up
scottw 02-07-2022, 09:06 AM need to start relentlessly photoshopping un-mask democrats into crowds of masked unwashed citizens for social media....it would be entirely believable
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:18 AM need to start relentlessly photoshopping un-mask democrats into crowds of masked unwashed citizens for social media....it would be entirely believable
this is a great ad…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2y3EMBMFAh0
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scottw 02-07-2022, 09:26 AM there is a video of a school in Israel showing the reaction of the young students when the teacher announces they won't have to wear masks anymore....funny because I've heard so much about how kids really don't mind wearing their masks :kewl:
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:40 AM there is a video of a school in Israel showing the reaction of the young students when the teacher announces they won't have to wear masks anymore....funny because I've heard so much about how kids really don't mind wearing their masks :kewl:
They'll be writing papers for 100 years documenting the damage we did to these kids. It's not like we were doing them a lot of favors pre-covid, asking kids to grow up on-line instead of outside with friends. But it makes you want to cry for them, they've been deprived of so much.
Pete F. 02-07-2022, 11:23 AM Based on what?
He’s got a few
Judge temporarily halts Youngkin order making masks optional in Va. schools after lawsuit from school boards
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 11:26 AM Scoop: National Archives last month had to retrieve boxes of Trump WH records from Mar-a-Lago that were improperly removed from the WH. The items included correspondence w Kim Jong Un.
I know I speak for all of you when I express my complete shock and utter incredulity at the suggestion that our fastidiously conscientious and incorruptibly virtuous former president could possibly have committed even the slightest infringement of the Presidential Records Act.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 12:53 PM He’s got a few
Judge temporarily halts Youngkin order making masks optional in Va. schools after lawsuit from school boards
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what does that have to do with the tip line which you said has been a disaster? i’m
asking about that. why has it been a disaster?
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scottw 02-07-2022, 01:04 PM Judge temporarily halts Youngkin order making masks optional in Va. schools after lawsuit from school boards
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so you are saying parents in those 7 districts in the lawsuit out of 133 districts in VA are still able to mask their children and send them to school if they want to?
PaulS 02-07-2022, 01:24 PM Scoop: National Archives last month had to retrieve boxes of Trump WH records from Mar-a-Lago that were improperly removed from the WH. The items included correspondence w Kim Jong Un.
I know I speak for all of you when I express my complete shock and utter incredulity at the suggestion that our fastidiously conscientious and incorruptibly virtuous former president could possibly have committed even the slightest infringement of the Presidential Records Act.
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It only matters if someone was seen w/o a mask.
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 01:38 PM It only matters if someone was seen w/o a mask.
Paul, can 2 things be true and matter at the same time?
Should someone who wants to be governor of GA, obey the mask mandates in place in GA?
Abrams, very much in Trump-like fashion, attacked her critics on this. She couldn’t just say she made a mistake and she’ll try to do better. Nope. She went into a tirade against those who dared to question her.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 01:39 PM our fastidiously conscientious and incorruptibly virtuous former president
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anybody except you, ever refer to him that way?
hearing voices again…
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 01:48 PM anybody except you, ever refer to him that way?
hearing voices again…
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He was the "law and order president" as well as " the most transparent president ever"
It would be hypocritical of him to break the law by shredding documents and records.
Those North Korean letters are very key…
Q: Why is he so protective of them that he threatens a Time journalist right in the Oval with prison for snapping a photo of one of them and then later spirits them off to Florida as his personal possession?
👉National security👈 issue
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PaulS 02-07-2022, 01:56 PM Paul, can 2 things be true and matter at the same time?
Should someone who wants to be governor of GA, obey the mask mandates in place in GA?
Abrams, very much in Trump-like fashion, attacked her critics on this. She couldn’t just say she made a mistake and she’ll try to do better. Nope. She went into a tirade against those who dared to question her.
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Big deal if one time, somewhere, someone forgot to put on their mask or took it off too soon or if the person taking the photo used a telephoto lens and made it appear they are standing close to someone else.
We have evidence that Trump and his minions tried to steal an election yet you'll continue to post pictures about someone, somewhere w/o a mask on as if that is the most important thing in the news.
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 02:01 PM Big deal if one time, somewhere, someone forgot to put on their mask or took it off too soon or if the person taking the photo used a telephoto lens and made it appear they are standing close to someone else.
We have evidence that Trump and his minions tried to steal an election yet you'll continue to post pictures about someone, somewhere w/o a mask on as if that is the most important thing in the news.
you’re right, if it was one person one time, who cares. but there’s a clear, obvious pattern of elected democrats violating the mandates they advocate for.
No big deal, character flaws is mine for expecting them to maybe lead by example.
I don’t disagree with you that trump tried to overturn the election.
again, i’m almost certain that two things can be true at the same time. Trump at least considered some very ugly things, and elected democrats are being regularly hypocritical with masks.
not sure why it’s one or the other.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 02:04 PM Big deal if one time, somewhere, someone forgot to put on their mask or took it off too soon or if the person taking the photo used a telephoto lens and made it appear they are standing close to someone else.
.
Did you really, seriously, type that? You're saying that with a straight face.
OK, maybe Trump never said any of those boorish things we claim he said, maybe a very talented ventriloquist just made it seem like he said those things. I mean, since you're being silly, I figured I'd join in the fun...
Zoom lens? You don't exactly need the Hubble telescope to take pictures of Stacey Abrams.
Paul has jumped the shark.
PaulS 02-07-2022, 02:07 PM Did you really, seriously, type that? You're saying that with a straight face.
OK, maybe Trump never said any of those boorish things we claim he said, maybe a very talented ventriloquist just made it seem like he said those things. I mean, since you're being silly, I figured I'd join in the fun...
Zoom lens? You don't exactly need the Hubble telescope to take pictures of Stacey Abrams. what does that mean?
Paul has jumped the shark.
:jump: I guess you know nothing about photography.
By the way representatives Jamaal Bowman of New York and Elissa Slotkin of Michigan also had pictures taken surrounded by masked school kids with their own masks off. Now you can start 2 more threads.
The Dad Fisherman 02-07-2022, 03:09 PM what does that mean?
It means she's no Chinese Gymnast
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 03:20 PM It means she's no Chinese Gymnast
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that’s where i was going.
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 04:02 PM Don’t I recall someone claiming that character didn’t count?
That politicians are not examples of moral rectitude?
That they weren’t concerned about their children looking to the President as a moral leader?
But when it’s a perceived flaw of a woman of the other side of the aisle…….
“No big deal, character flaws is mine for expecting them to maybe lead by example.”
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wdmso 02-07-2022, 04:06 PM you literally made up a quote, put it in quotation marks, and attributed it to the gop base
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Jim you live in under a rock you are in such deep denial its scary
everything is made up or a lie like most conservatives why is that?
.. go over to QAN and Newmax and see what your kind post and get back to me .. along with their elected officials
and do your own work
Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 04:08 PM Jim you live in under a rock you are in such deep denial its scary
everything is made up or a lie like most conservatives why is that?
.. go over to QAN and Newmax and see what your kind post and get back to me .. along with their elected officials
and do your own work
if you didn’t make it up, all you’d have to do is provide the source.
you lie about a quote, but the flaw is mine. no better example of liberalism than that.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 04:20 PM Jim you live in under a rock you are in such deep denial its scary
everything is made up or a lie like most conservatives why is that?
.. go over to QAN and Newmax and see what your kind post and get back to me .. along with their elected officials
and do your own work
Do you consider ANTIFA to be "the base of the democratic party"? Because I don't.
You scour the internet looking for bad things done by the fringe on the right, and you assume that everyone on the right is responsible. It's not a serious thing to say. It's what one does, when one can't admit the truth.
Pete F. 02-07-2022, 06:49 PM Former Republican Governor of NJ, Christine Todd Whitman:
“There is no Republican Party.
It has become a dangerous cult in the thrall of a narcissistic, delusional, dictator wannabe.”
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Pete F. 02-07-2022, 09:25 PM Still nowhere to be found in the 15 boxes of records removed from Mar-A-Lago: Trump's healthcare plan
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:31 PM Former Republican Governor of NJ, Christine Todd Whitman:
“There is no Republican Party.
It has become a dangerous cult in the thrall of a narcissistic, delusional, dictator wannabe.”
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50 US senators, just about half the house, and a majority of state governorships and legislatures.
is there’s no GOP, what group pulled
that off?
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:35 PM Former Republican Governor of NJ, Christine Todd Whitman:
“There is no Republican Party.
It has become a dangerous cult in the thrall of a narcissistic, delusional, dictator wannabe.”
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Bill Maher says the democrats “are the party of no common sense.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfXIVcg1JLI
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:39 PM Former Republican Governor of NJ, Christine Todd Whitman:
“There is no Republican Party.
It has become a dangerous cult in the thrall of a narcissistic, delusional, dictator wannabe.”
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james carvile says the dems “have a wokeness problem.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/22338417/james-carville-democratic-party-biden-100-days
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:48 PM Former Republican Governor of NJ, Christine Todd Whitman:
“There is no Republican Party.
It has become a dangerous cult in the thrall of a narcissistic, delusional, dictator wannabe.”
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Tulsi Gabbard says Biden is “authoritarian and unacceptable.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0MzctOaJZS0
see what i’m doing here Pete? Mirroring you exactly.
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Jim in CT 02-07-2022, 09:52 PM Former Republican Governor of NJ, Christine Todd Whitman:
“There is no Republican Party.
It has become a dangerous cult in the thrall of a narcissistic, delusional, dictator wannabe.”
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Kamala Harris says Biden’s positions on race relations are “hurtful.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/27/harris-attacks-bidens-record-on-busing-and-working-with-segregationists.html
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Pete F. 02-08-2022, 02:00 AM Chicago banker Stephen Calk wanted a term in the Trump cabinet. This afternoon he got a one year and a day term in federal prison for $16m “corrupt” loans to 2016 campaign boss Paul Manafort.
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Pete F. 02-08-2022, 02:10 AM Nikki Haley on Pence statement: I’m not a fan of Republicans going after Republicans
Wait till she hears about Trump
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Pete F. 02-08-2022, 02:13 AM Or maybe she should wait till she hears about … Nikki Haley.
Haley referring to Trump and Jan. 6: “We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again."
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scottw 02-08-2022, 05:00 AM when pete posts these quotes, most of them are people that I was unaware were still alive...
pete, we'll keep Haley
but we'll happily trade CTW for Tulsi, I know Tulsi is more Bernie than Trump but she doesn't sound happy affiliated with the dems
'[Joe Biden] is rapidly carrying our country in the wrong direction, tearing us apart, pouring fuel on the flames of divisiveness,' said Gabbard
Pete F. 02-08-2022, 07:46 AM What I appreciate about Nikki Haley is how consistent she’s been in forcefully voicing this principle, especially when Donald Trump was attacking Repub….hahahahahahahahahahah
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wdmso 02-08-2022, 09:24 AM if you didn’t make it up, all you’d have to do is provide the source.
you lie about a quote, but the flaw is mine. no better example of liberalism than that.
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Your a child . Only you would think there would be a link to 1 comment out of 100 on a story.. like I said you need to. Pay attention
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/pence-electoral-votes/2022/02/04/id/1055573/
JUDAS PENCE IS FINISHED HIS JOB WAS TO TURN IT BACK TO THE STATES BECAUSE THERE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH PROOF THIS ELECTION WAS RIGGED AND OUR VOTES STOLEN PENCE DID NOT DO HIS JOB
Here’s your childish mask story. Funny Jim all your outrage comments I find on newsmax or the daily mail are almost identical to their headline? Funny how that works
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/barack-obama-mansion-hawaii-masks/2022/02/07/id/1055885/#CommentSection
The 1st comment. Is chimpanzee
Odd Hawaii Masks are always required indoors
The photos show Obama speaking to at least four other men with the construction firm Armstrong Builders, all of whom were masked up. Masks are not required to be worn outside in Hawaii.
I guess Jim or Scott or all the others on the outrage merry go round
Never considered the men in masks was company policy
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Jim in CT 02-08-2022, 09:31 AM Your a child . Only you would think there would be a link to 1 comment out of 100 on a story.. like I said you need to. Pay attention
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/pence-electoral-votes/2022/02/04/id/1055573/
JUDAS PENCE IS FINISHED HIS JOB WAS TO TURN IT BACK TO THE STATES BECAUSE THERE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH PROOF THIS ELECTION WAS RIGGED AND OUR VOTES STOLEN PENCE DID NOT DO HIS JOB
Here’s your childish mask story. Funny Jim all your outrage comments I find on newsmax or the daily mail are almost identical to their headline? Funny how that works
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/barack-obama-mansion-hawaii-masks/2022/02/07/id/1055885/#CommentSection
The 1st comment. Is chimpanzee
Odd Hawaii Masks are always required indoors
The photos show Obama speaking to at least four other men with the construction firm Armstrong Builders, all of whom were masked up. Masks are not required to be worn outside in Hawaii.
I guess Jim or Scott or all the others on the outrage merry go round
Never considered the men in masks was company policy
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you provided a statement that you put in quotes. where’d you get it?!
it’s a pretty simple question. unless you made it up.
i’m not even a little outraged. i’m just wondering what source you used, which claimed that the gop base, said what you claimed it said. how can the “gop base” make a comment anyway?
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wdmso 02-08-2022, 03:27 PM you provided a statement that you put in quotes. where’d you get it?!
it’s a pretty simple question. unless you made it up.
i’m not even a little outraged. i’m just wondering what source you used, which claimed that the gop base, said what you claimed it said. how can the “gop base” make a comment anyway?
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you still can't it figure out, where I got it ? and Jim its a real Quote one among many if you took the time to look:btu:
Jim in CT 02-08-2022, 03:29 PM you still can't it figure out, where I got it ? and Jim its a real Quote one among many if you took the time to look:btu:
i’d be happy to look, if you’d provide the source.
how, exactly, did you get a quote from “the gop base”? they all got together and crafted a statement, and signed it “the GOP base”?
i’d just love to see the source.
2 gop governors said this week trump shouldn’t run again. not enough, hopefully a start.
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detbuch 02-08-2022, 03:56 PM i’d be happy to look, if you’d provide the source.
how, exactly, did you get a quote from “the gop base”? they all got together and crafted a statement, and signed it “the GOP base”?
i’d just love to see the source.
2 gop governors said this week trump shouldn’t run again. not enough, hopefully a start.
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Jim, wdmso has constantly shown us about everything--he has figured it out.
Jim in CT 02-08-2022, 04:18 PM Jim, wdmso has constantly shown us about everything--he has figured it out.
Yup. The GOP base is the Klan, and the Democrat base are the nicest people on the left.
Pete F. 02-08-2022, 04:41 PM First Pence: “He was wrong!”
Now McConnell: “It was a violent insurrection!”
They know something is going down. Soon.
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Jim in CT 02-08-2022, 05:09 PM First Pence: “He was wrong!”
Now McConnell: “It was a violent insurrection!”
They know something is going down. Soon.
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Pence refused to follow Trumps orders 13 months ago, which would appear to indicate that all along, Pence thought Trump was wrong.
Yet you're trying to make it appear as if Pence is jumping on a bandwagon. Why? Why can't you be honest?
The Dad Fisherman 02-08-2022, 05:49 PM Jim, wdmso has constantly shown us about everything--he has figured it out.
https://c.tenor.com/lVDEa-VuYTQAAAAC/community-small.gif
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Pete F. 02-08-2022, 08:32 PM Pence refused to follow Trumps orders 13 months ago, which would appear to indicate that all along, Pence thought Trump was wrong.
Yet you're trying to make it appear as if Pence is jumping on a bandwagon. Why? Why can't you be honest?
You think what Pence did was “honest”
What did Pence say in the past 13 months?
What did he know?
Why now after his staff testified is he trying to generate some distance from Trump?
Why is McConnell saying out loud "We all were here. We saw what happened. It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election, from one administration to the next. That's what it was."
Cold and calculating, Mitch does not like to be on the losing side. Pay attention.
Are they now RINOs and not Republicans like you claim about Kinzinger and Cheney?
You and your ilk are responsible for the stain that Trump will leave on the Republican Party, he makes Nixon look like a saint.
Hopefully no one will make the mistake that was made by Ford and pardon him
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scottw 02-08-2022, 08:36 PM He’s got a few
Judge temporarily halts Youngkin order making masks optional in Va. schools after lawsuit from school boards
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The Virginia Senate voted 29–9 on Tuesday to approve an amendment that would make masking optional in schools regardless of rules adopted by local school boards.
State Senator Chap Peterson, a Democrat, proposed the rule on the Senate floor on Tuesday as an amendment to a bill from state Senator Siobhan Dunnavant, a Republican, that would require school boards to permanently offer in-person instruction.
Petersen’s floor amendment would allow any parent with a child enrolled in public school or any school-based early childhood-care program to send their child to class without a mask “notwithstanding any other provision of law or any regulation, rule, or policy implemented by a school board, school division, school official, or other state or local authority.”
The bipartisan vote comes as Governor Glenn Youngkin has faced legal challenges to his executive order making masking optional in schools.
Jim in CT 02-08-2022, 10:04 PM The Virginia Senate voted 29–9 on Tuesday to approve an amendment that would make masking optional in schools regardless of rules adopted by local school boards.
State Senator Chap Peterson, a Democrat, proposed the rule on the Senate floor on Tuesday as an amendment to a bill from state Senator Siobhan Dunnavant, a Republican, that would require school boards to permanently offer in-person instruction.
Petersen’s floor amendment would allow any parent with a child enrolled in public school or any school-based early childhood-care program to send their child to class without a mask “notwithstanding any other provision of law or any regulation, rule, or policy implemented by a school board, school division, school official, or other state or local authority.”
The bipartisan vote comes as Governor Glenn Youngkin has faced legal challenges to his executive order making masking optional in schools.
bitch. slapped.
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Pete F. 02-09-2022, 05:52 AM bitch. slapped.
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"In much of the United States, adults have the option of returning to life essentially as we knew it in 2019." Yes, nothing says 2019 like a million dead.
"However, children continue to experience disproportionate restrictions, and the costs are mounting. Youth depression, suspected suicide attempts, drug overdose deaths, and obesity have all risen dramatically during the pandemic."
These two sentence imply that "disproportionate restrictions" caused all these downstream effects. It's manipulative, and well, absolutely unsupported by the data. Never you mind. They have an agenda to push.
"The unintended consequences of pandemic restrictions are now a greater risk to our children than COVID, and we must act on that reality."
Perhaps, that 1 in 4 COVID deaths here in the US leaves a child w/o a caretaker, might be worth mentioning?
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Jim in CT 02-09-2022, 06:24 AM "In much of the United States, adults have the option of returning to life essentially as we knew it in 2019." Yes, nothing says 2019 like a million dead.
"However, children continue to experience disproportionate restrictions, and the costs are mounting. Youth depression, suspected suicide attempts, drug overdose deaths, and obesity have all risen dramatically during the pandemic."
These two sentence imply that "disproportionate restrictions" caused all these downstream effects. It's manipulative, and well, absolutely unsupported by the data. Never you mind. They have an agenda to push.
"The unintended consequences of pandemic restrictions are now a greater risk to our children than COVID, and we must act on that reality."
Perhaps, that 1 in 4 COVID deaths here in the US leaves a child w/o a caretaker, might be worth mentioning?
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you’re like the kid who eats bugs at school, hoping that will
make others like him.
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scottw 02-09-2022, 06:26 AM Perhaps, that 1 in 4 COVID deaths here in the US leaves a child w/o a caretaker, might be worth mentioning?
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perhaps....
I read the "study"...lot's of "estimating" to arrive at the conclusion in a study that appears obsessed more with race and equity than anything else...
"To estimate numbers of children orphaned by death of a parent" we........
Our outcomes were consequences of COVID-19–associated death of parents or coresiding grandparents and included orphanhood, loss of primary caregivers, and loss of primary or secondary caregivers (Fig 1). We defined orphanhood as death of one or both parents.6 Primary caregivers have been described as parents or grandparents responsible for most basic needs and care and secondary caregivers as grandparents providing some basic needs or care.18,30,31 We defined loss of primary caregivers as the sum of orphanhood, death of custodial grandparents providing parental care for their grandchildren in the absence of parents,32 or death of coresiding grandparents (living with grandchild[ren] and child’s parents) responsible for most basic needs (eg, food, housing, clothing, and day care).18 We operationalized loss of secondary caregivers as death of grandparents providing housing but not most basic needs.
so basically if anyone in a child's life dies either "with" covid or "from" covid it leaves them "orphaned" and according to you "without a caretaker"
good job!
Jim in CT 02-09-2022, 06:27 AM you’re like the kid who eats bugs at school, hoping that will make others like him.
no one is saying we didn’t need to take any precautions. as always, you’re responding to things no one said.
However, we dont need to deprive children of a normal childhood. that does more harm than good.
take precautions with adults, especially those with comorbidities. let kids be kids. is that going too fast for you?
jesus there’s no lie you won’t tell.
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Pete F. 02-09-2022, 10:37 AM you’re like the kid who eats bugs at school, hoping that will
make others like him.
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Projection is your strong point
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Jim in CT 02-09-2022, 10:50 AM Projection is your strong point
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Zing!!! You sure showed me!
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Pete F. 02-09-2022, 11:05 AM As an MD said
And she’s Asian so she gets double points
When people tell me that kids wearing masks are “abused & impaired”:
I come from Japan where I’ve been masking since I was little. I never felt “abused”—in fact I felt HONORED to help others.
Then I grew up to be a bada$$ doctor so…I’m pretty sure I’m not “impaired” either.
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detbuch 02-09-2022, 12:31 PM As an MD said
And she’s Asian so she gets double points
When people tell me that kids wearing masks are “abused & impaired”:
I come from Japan where I’ve been masking since I was little. I never felt “abused”—in fact I felt HONORED to help others.
Then I grew up to be a bada$$ doctor so…I’m pretty sure I’m not “impaired” either.
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It's probably her inherent Asian cultural ethic of studying hard and working hard that enabled her to "grew up to be a bada$$ doctor" instead of being abused and impaired like so many "poor victim" Americans.
No doubt you believe we should create Progressive policies and "programs" for universal equity which don't require such cultural ethics.
wdmso 02-09-2022, 03:58 PM Trump: McConnell 'Does Not Speak for the Republican Party
'https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-senate-leader-mcconnell-rnc/2022/02/09/id/1056189/
where TDS is Alive and well and were not talking Democrats
Pete F. 02-09-2022, 04:35 PM It's probably her inherent Asian cultural ethic of studying hard and working hard that enabled her to "grew up to be a bada$$ doctor" instead of being abused and impaired like so many "poor victim" Americans.
No doubt you believe we should create Progressive policies and "programs" for universal equity which don't require such cultural ethics.
Can you just imagine the effect that masks are having on our kids?
They’re going to turn out to have real educational deficiencies, like those kids from China, Korea and Japan that wear masks and are taking all the top seats in our universities.
Oh wait… LOL
detbuch 02-09-2022, 05:00 PM Can you just imagine the effect that masks are having on our kids?
They’re going to turn out to have real educational deficiencies, like those kids from China, Korea and Japan that wear masks and are taking all the top seats in our universities.
Oh wait… LOL
Oh wait . . . many of our kids have had educational deficiencies worse than kids from China, Korea and Japan before Covid. But they had the advantage of growing into freer more diverse societies. Now with various Covid mandates, they are also learning to accept the regimentation of Asian cultures on top of there already existing culturally driven educational deficiencies. Maybe if we get used to stricter mandates because of "crises" we can become more like China.
And the Asians were taking top seats in our universities before Covid and mask mandates.
Not sure, but your bit sounds a lot like one of wdmso's false analogies.
wdmso 02-10-2022, 02:29 PM Pence betrayed Trump. Marc Short is a Koch Network dog. Meadows is a fool and a coward. Cheney and Kinzinger are useful idiots for Nancy Pelosi and the woke Left,” Mr. Navarro wrote in an email.
Jim i bet you think I made up his quote also LoL
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Jim in CT 02-10-2022, 02:39 PM Pence betrayed Trump. Marc Short is a Koch Network dog. Meadows is a fool and a coward. Cheney and Kinzinger are useful idiots for Nancy Pelosi and the woke Left,” Mr. Navarro wrote in an email.
Jim i bet you think I made up his quote also LoL
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no, but we all know you made up the other one.
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Pete F. 02-11-2022, 05:45 PM ROTO-ROOTER® if you’re listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000+ documents that are missing…
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wdmso 02-13-2022, 09:43 AM no, but we all know you made up the other one.
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Keep convincing yourself :faga:
Jim in CT 02-13-2022, 10:50 AM Keep convincing yourself :faga:
then provide the source.
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wdmso 02-17-2022, 10:03 AM Former U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke misused his position to advance a development project in his Montana hometown and failed to disclose details of his involvement when questioned by ethics officials, a federal investigation has found.
Now, the Republican is running to return to Congress, with an endorsement from Trump.
what a surprise unethical supporting unethical ... thats the GOP
wdmso 02-17-2022, 10:10 AM then provide the source.
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I did Jim.. can't help you're too lazy to go read the Newsmax comment section.. Seems all conservatives do blame others of Dishonesty because they dont like the message ..
it's amazing to see what you believe and what you refuse to believe . and the reasons are Hilarious
Jim in CT 02-17-2022, 10:44 AM I did Jim.. can't help you're too lazy to go read the Newsmax comment section.. Seems all conservatives do blame others of Dishonesty because they dont like the message ..
it's amazing to see what you believe and what you refuse to believe . and the reasons are Hilarious
i missed it. my bad. please provide it again, a source where “the republican base” says what you claimed.
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Got Stripers 02-18-2022, 07:16 AM Maybe this belongs in the creating wealth thread, because Trump was very good at it when he needed a loan and loosing it come tax time. Since a judge has ruled Trump, Ivanka and JR must testify, someone should remind him he once statied anyone taking the 5th is admitting guilt. Head accountant charged, family accounting firm cutting ties and now this, to bad they can’t bring in cameras for that one.
Jim in CT 02-18-2022, 08:25 AM Maybe this belongs in the creating wealth thread, because Trump was very good at it when he needed a loan and loosing it come tax time. Since a judge has ruled Trump, Ivanka and JR must testify, someone should remind him he once statied anyone taking the 5th is admitting guilt. Head accountant charged, family accounting firm cutting ties and now this, to bad they can’t bring in cameras for that one.
Investigate it fully, if he broke the laws throw the book at him.
Can you say the same thing about the Durham probe? The lefties here have concluded thats just a witch hunt, because Hilary said so.
We need to elect different kinds of people.
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 09:47 AM Maybe this belongs in the creating wealth thread, because Trump was very good at it when he needed a loan and loosing it come tax time. Since a judge has ruled Trump, Ivanka and JR must testify, someone should remind him he once statied anyone taking the 5th is admitting guilt. Head accountant charged, family accounting firm cutting ties and now this, to bad they can’t bring in cameras for that one.
Trump Organization is a goner unless the Trumps can disprove the allegations New York has made. If the Trumps thought they could accomplish this by testifying, without incriminating themselves in the process, they’d do it. Their refusal to testify means they know they’re screwed.
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scottw 02-18-2022, 10:54 AM Trump Organization is a goner unless the Trumps can disprove the allegations New York has made.
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this is actually not how it works....
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 11:37 AM this is actually not how it works....
Fun fact: the NY AG is investigating Trump for fraud under Executive Law 63(12), which also provides that a fraudulent company may be dissolved and have its corporate charter canceled.
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scottw 02-18-2022, 11:44 AM Fun fact: the NY AG is investigating Trump for anything she can possibly dream up.
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fixed it...
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 12:33 PM fixed it...
Even though Trump claims the Justice system works like that, it doesn’t.
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Got Stripers 02-18-2022, 01:33 PM Drinking game alert!
Every time they plead the 5th you take a shot.
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 01:37 PM Drinking game alert!
Every time they plead the 5th you take a shot.
Given that in Eric’s deposition, he plead the 5th 500 times, it could be fatal
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PaulS 02-18-2022, 01:49 PM If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment,” Trump said as a candidate in 2016, complaining about aides to his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who faced inquires over the use of a private email service when she was secretary of state.
“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump declared.
detbuch 02-18-2022, 03:16 PM If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment,” Trump said as a candidate in 2016, complaining about aides to his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who faced inquires over the use of a private email service when she was secretary of state.
“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump declared.
Yeah but Trump always lies so whatever he said about the fifth ain't true.
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 05:41 PM Trump’s political future – and even his freedom – may be threatened by documents found at Mar-a-Lago, experts say
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Got Stripers 02-18-2022, 06:02 PM It’s a crime to remove them, a crime to destroy them and the irony is all the bitching about Hilary’s emails and Trumps administration did the same on steroids. Between this, the PA and NY cases, Trump is basically going to go down (as we all suspected including many Republicans in the 2016 election primary’s) as the most corrupt president ever. Nixon can sleep soundly now, he is no longer the most corrupt.
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 07:14 PM 👆👆👆👆👆
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scottw 02-18-2022, 08:23 PM it's fun how you guys work so hard to convince yourselves of things...
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 08:25 PM this is actually not how it works....
Imagine deciding to forfeit your company, its assets, and your income, in the hope of slightly reducing your odds of going to prison. That’s the position the Trumps are in at this point. That’s how screwed they know they are.
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scottw 02-18-2022, 08:27 PM Imagine deciding to forfeit your company, its assets, and your income, in the hope of slightly reducing your odds of going to prison. That’s the position the Trumps are in at this point. That’s how screwed they know they are.
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I've lost count of how many times you've told us this over the last 5 years....maybe the blind squirrel...well, you know...finally...maybe
Pete F. 02-18-2022, 08:30 PM I've lost count of how many times you've told us this over the last 5 years....maybe the blind squirrel...well, you know...finally...maybe
Don’t believe the hype about the statute of limitations
The statute of limitations for Trump’s obstruction crimes is not going to expire any time soon
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scottw 02-19-2022, 05:00 AM Don’t believe the hype about the statute of limitations
The statute of limitations for Trump’s obstruction crimes is not going to expire any time soon
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pretty sure I never mentioned statute of limitations and didn't know there was any hype concerning it...
Pete F. 02-19-2022, 08:57 AM A very bad week for Trump.
Mazars quits. He must sit for depositions by NY AG investigating fraud. Civil suit to determine his liability for January 6th upheld.
He is not above the law.
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wdmso 02-19-2022, 12:16 PM Trump: National Archives Story Just Another Fake News 'Scam'
didn't see that coming
scottw 02-19-2022, 12:55 PM Trump: National Archives Story Just Another Fake News 'Scam'
didn't see that coming
right up there with hookers peeing on a bed...you guys lapped that one up too....
I wonder how many top secret documents you can stuff down a toilet at one time?
I bet those manilla folders marked "TOP SECRET" are a tough flush
Pete F. 02-19-2022, 02:38 PM Baloney
Donald Trump did not steal boxes and boxes classified government information just to flush it down the toilet at Mar-a-Lago. Donald Trump stole boxes and boxes of classified government information to sell it.
He. Is A. Spy.
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wdmso 02-19-2022, 07:24 PM A federal judge on Friday sweepingly rejected former president Donald Trump’s claim of “absolute immunity” from lawsuits
Trump once again thinks the rules do not apply to him
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wdmso 02-21-2022, 09:39 AM Trump's Truth Social App Launches on Apple App Store
It crashes and guess what it cost 35.00 bucks seem they are calling it a donation 😂
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scottw 02-21-2022, 10:19 AM Trump's Truth Social App Launches on Apple App Store
It crashes and guess what it cost 35.00 bucks seem they are calling it a donation 😂
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I'm sure you will be monitoring it closely for misinformation :laugha:
Pete F. 02-21-2022, 10:58 AM Truth social will fail like all trumps other businesses
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wdmso 02-21-2022, 01:52 PM I'm sure you will be monitoring it closely for misinformation :laugha:
And i am sure you feel your 35 dollars is well spent
scottw 02-21-2022, 02:32 PM And i am sure you feel your 35 dollars is well spent
I’d never heard of it till you mentioned it….
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wdmso 02-21-2022, 05:24 PM I’d never heard of it till you mentioned it….
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happy to help
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wdmso 02-22-2022, 07:29 PM Garland confirms classified material found among records taken from Trump's Mar-a-Lago
More fake news?
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detbuch 02-22-2022, 07:33 PM Garland confirms classified material found among records taken from Trump's Mar-a-Lago
More fake news?
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Is someone claiming that Garland didn't?
wdmso 02-22-2022, 07:48 PM Is someone claiming that Garland didn't?
Trump
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scottw 02-22-2022, 07:50 PM Garland confirms classified material found among records taken from Trump's Mar-a-Lago
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I wonder if he snuck it out in his pants like Sandy Berger?
wdmso 02-22-2022, 08:03 PM Trump: We Could Use a Putin 'Peace Force' on Our Border
And his Cult cheers
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detbuch 02-22-2022, 09:22 PM Trump
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Trump said "The National Archives did not 'find' anything, they were given, upon request"--typical Trump sarcasm, they didn't "find" the material, it was "given" to them.
detbuch 02-22-2022, 09:27 PM Trump: We Could Use a Putin 'Peace Force' on Our Border
And his Cult cheers
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More Trump sarcasm. A sort of dark humor, kind of funny, but true. And sort of a dig at the Biden Administration being so concerned about Ukraine's border but so little concerned about ours.
Pete F. 02-23-2022, 01:28 AM Donald Trump’s idea of showing strength towards Vladimir Putin was to shower him with compliments and kiss the ring. He’s always been weak.
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scottw 02-23-2022, 05:16 AM Donald Trump’s idea of showing strength towards Vladimir Putin was to shower him with compliments and kiss the ring. He’s always been weak.
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Obama "Made Russia Great Again" with his weakness...
Feb 2018 UK Independent
Russia, Assad’s ally, offered to remove the regime’s chemical weapons stockpile to prevent such outrages happening again. Fatefully, Obama agreed. In effect, he outsourced the war to Moscow.
Obama’s disregard for his own “red line” was interpreted in Moscow, Tehran, Damascus and other Arab capitals as confirming a fundamental shift – evidence that a chastened, post-Iraq America was retreating from its global policeman role. Obama’s hesitation gave Vladimir Putin, Russia’s leader, an opening. It fitted his core agenda: to rebuild Moscow’s influence in the Middle East and make Russia great again by restoring Soviet-era global reach.
And now frail, confused brandon can't muster his pre-election bluster...
today
Biden’s Putin Appeasement Has Been Years in the Making
By DAVID HARSANYI
As VP, he mocked Russia hawks, treated Putin as a partner, and helped Russia join the WTO. Then came his presidency.
NBC- President Joe Biden announced Tuesday that a set of sanctions will be imposed on Russia for recognizing the so-called Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics, whose territory is internationally recognized as part of Ukraine. Biden stopped short of imposing the severest sanctions, which he promised would be imposed were Russia to invade Ukraine.
Russia remains unimpressed with U.S. security proposals. If the objective of these measures is to push Russia into withdrawing its military presence near the Ukrainian border, the strategy is obviously failing. It was a moment full of dire portents.
weak...weak...weak...
The Dad Fisherman 02-23-2022, 06:34 AM It fitted his core agenda: to rebuild Moscow’s influence in the Middle East and make Russia great again by restoring Soviet-era global reach...
Sounds like he is looking to Build Back Better
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Pete F. 02-23-2022, 09:45 AM You’ve got to love that in the middle of Republicans trying to rewrite Trump’s Putin loving history, he gives an interview where he just gushes like a fanboy about how awesome his friend in Moscow is.
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wdmso 02-23-2022, 04:04 PM Compare right-wing complacency about Putin’s invasion of Ukraine with their hysteria about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada ordering the arrests of anti-vaccine mandate protesters who were blocking major thoroughfares. Carlson claims that “Canada canceled democracy,” while ignoring the actual, existential threat to democracy in Ukraine.
Yep the rights willing to give Canadian truckers asylum because of Trudea the True tyrannical leader
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Jim in CT 02-23-2022, 04:09 PM Compare right-wing complacency about Putin’s invasion of Ukraine with their hysteria about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada ordering the arrests of anti-vaccine mandate protesters who were blocking major thoroughfares. Carlson claims that “Canada canceled democracy,” while ignoring the actual, existential threat to democracy in Ukraine.
Yep the rights willing to give Canadian truckers asylum because of Trudea the True tyrannical leader
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Is Ukraine a democracy? Someone here said it was a corrupt place, which is why it's poor despite having tremendous natural resources.
Got Stripers 02-23-2022, 04:49 PM Is Ukraine a democracy? Someone here said it was a corrupt place, which is why it's poor despite having tremendous natural resources.
Using you life argument, when does a young democracy's life actually begin?
Pete F. 02-23-2022, 06:08 PM What scares Putin most is Ukraine succeeding in the fight against corruption and becoming an example of a successful former Soviet bloc member that is a democracy.
Ukraine is a battlefield of democracy against autocracy. The West either sides with Ukraine taking real, meaningful, effective actions now, or will eventually lose the rules-based order and safety for generations to come.
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Jim in CT 02-23-2022, 07:50 PM Using you life argument, when does a young democracy's life actually begin?
i was asking a question.
i guess you don’t know the answer.
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PaulS 02-24-2022, 08:53 AM After Ingraham mentions that Russian forces are reportedly engaged in an amphibious attack, Trump says, "you told me about the amphibious attack by Americans. You shouldn't be saying that ... they should do that secretly."
"No. That was the Russians," Ingraham corrects him.
"You shouldn't be saying that, because you and everybody else shouldn't know about," Trump continued. "They should do that secretly, not be doing that through the great Laura Ingraham."
"No, those are the Russians," Ingraham replied.
"Oh, I thought you said that we were sending people in," Trump said. "That'll be next."
So who is dumber - Trump or the people who want him re-elected?
scottw 02-24-2022, 09:04 AM After Ingraham mentions that Russian forces are reportedly engaged in an amphibious attack, Trump says, "you told me about the amphibious attack by Americans. You shouldn't be saying that ... they should do that secretly."
"No. That was the Russians," Ingraham corrects him.
"You shouldn't be saying that, because you and everybody else shouldn't know about," Trump continued. "They should do that secretly, not be doing that through the great Laura Ingraham."
"No, those are the Russians," Ingraham replied.
"Oh, I thought you said that we were sending people in," Trump said. "That'll be next."
So who is dumber - Trump or the people who want him re-elected?
well,,,,trump isn't president....have you seen brandon try to speak lately?
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 09:27 AM So who is dumber - Trump or the people who want him re-elected?
yeah, things are so much better right now...
PaulS 02-24-2022, 10:01 AM yeah, things are so much better right now...
Anyone else other than Trump make such a stupid idiotic statement?
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 11:36 AM Anyone else other than Trump make such a stupid idiotic statement?
Again, Gallup does a poll before every presidential election, asking people if they feel better of after 4 years of the sitting POTUS.
When Gallup did the poll in 2020, Trump had the highest percentage ever, of people saying they were better off.
If that poll were held today, asking people if they're better off now after 13 months of Biden, what % would say yes?
100% of violent criminals would say yes, other than that, I'm not sure.
Not every flop has been Biden's fault, as covid wasn't Trumps fault and the subprime mortgage crisis wasn't Bush's fault. But fair or not, the president generally is held responsible for what happens on his watch.
It's been a horrible, disastrous 13 months for Biden. There's no arguing that.
PaulS 02-24-2022, 12:03 PM Again, Gallup does a poll before every presidential election, asking people if they feel better of after 4 years of the sitting POTUS.
When Gallup did the poll in 2020, Trump had the highest percentage ever, of people saying they were better off.
If that poll were held today, asking people if they're better off now after 13 months of Biden, what % would say yes?
100% of violent criminals would say yes, other than that, I'm not sure.
Not every flop has been Biden's fault, as covid wasn't Trumps fault and the subprime mortgage crisis wasn't Bush's fault. But fair or not, the president generally is held responsible for what happens on his watch.
It's been a horrible, disastrous 13 months for Biden. There's no arguing that.
Nice duck. Let me ask again did anyone else other than Trump make such a stupid idiotic statement?
scottw 02-24-2022, 12:35 PM Nice duck. Let me ask again did anyone else other than Trump make such a stupid idiotic statement?
caught in a bad "browmance" :love:
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 02:09 PM Anyone else other than Trump make such a stupid idiotic statement?
I honestly don't know which statement you're referring to.
I know VP Harris said this recently.
"It's time for us to be doing what we have been doing. And the time is every day."
But that's not a problem, when the VP says that.
And Biden? Incoherent half the time.
An Alzheimers patient and an imbecile. I'm not surprised that Putin invaded Ukraine, what I can't figure, is why the Russkies haven't taken Alaska. What's stopping them?
PaulS 02-24-2022, 02:25 PM I honestly don't know which statement you're referring to.then why comment? Is it that you can't control your self?
I know VP Harris said this recently.
"It's time for us to be doing what we have been doing. And the time is every day."
But that's not a problem, when the VP says that. certainly far better than the statement Trump made.
And Biden? Incoherent half the time.He has a speach handicap. But you know that right and still feel it is ok to mock him. What a clown.
An Alzheimers patient and an imbecileclassy statement. shows what a P O S you are. I'm not surprised that Putin invaded Ukraine, what I can't figure, is why the Russkies haven't taken Alaska. What's stopping them?
NM
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 02:29 PM NM
"He has a speach handicap"
No. I'm referring to the dementia. Maybe you don't see it, because, well, he may sound very cerebral and cogent to you.
PaulS 02-24-2022, 02:35 PM "He has a speach handicap"
No. I'm referring to the dementia. Maybe you don't see it, because, well, he may sound very cerebral and cogent to you.
If you think he has dementia you must realize it is an illness yet you still call him names/mock him. Shows why I think you are a classless P O S.
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 02:40 PM If you think he has dementia you must realize it is an illness yet you still call him names/mock him. Shows why I think you are a classless P O S.
it’s not funny he has it. it’s funny we’d elect someone who has it. And cruel that liberals would exploit him to do this rather than sleeping all day and eating dinner at 4 pm like he should be doing .
i’m just all torn up about your opinion of me paul. when a guy who thinks it’s funny to say retard has a negative opinion of me, i know i did something right today.
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scottw 02-24-2022, 02:56 PM “He has a speach handicap"
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Watch his 2016 Democratic convention speech. ….no he doesn’t 😁.
Or maybe he’s had an accident since then or something?
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PaulS 02-24-2022, 03:14 PM it’s not funny he has it. it’s funny we’d elect someone who has it. And cruel that liberals would exploit him to do this rather than sleeping all day and eating dinner at 4 pm like he should be doing .
i’m just all torn up about your opinion of me paul. when a guy who thinks it’s funny to say retard has a negative opinion of me, i know i did something right today.yup, mocking someone who has a speech impediment and who you think has dementia - classy. So pull up my first usage of it and show everyone how I used it.
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scottw 02-24-2022, 03:22 PM yup, mocking someone who has a speech impediment and who you think has dementia - classy.
it's even less classy to foist a guy struggling with old age on the country at a difficult time and then when he demonstrates he's clearly not up to the job, continue to claim he's simply suffering from a speech handicap
Pete F. 02-24-2022, 03:28 PM A lot of Republicans will need to replace their revenue streams after these new and necessary sanctions on Russia.
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Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 03:29 PM NM
"pull up my first usage of it and show everyone how I used it."
How the heck would I know what your first usage was? And why do subsequent usages not matter?
Just find another word, Paul, it's not that complicated.
Pete F. 02-24-2022, 03:32 PM Biden, announcing sanctions on Russian assets and banks: every asset they have in the U.S. will be frozen.
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PaulS 02-24-2022, 03:40 PM "pull up my first usage of it and show everyone how I used it."
How the heck would I know what your first usage was? And why do subsequent usages not matter?
Just find another word, Paul, it's not that complicated.
You constantly say I used the word so show everyone how I first used it or even the subsequent usages? Maybe you can tell me why in the thread I first used it you quoted the post but never commented on the usage. If I remember I used the word spazz also.
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 04:04 PM You constantly say I used the word so show everyone how I first used it or even the subsequent usages? Maybe you can tell me why in the thread I first used it you quoted the post but never commented on the usage. If I remember I used the word spazz also.
for gods sake, you’re like a three year old. you asked me recently to prove that you ever used the word, i posted a quote of your using it. i don’t know, or care, if it was your first use or your millionth use.
it’s a disgusting term to lob around. but again, as always, everything is ok when you guys do it.
“i used the word spazz also”.
good for you.
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scottw 02-24-2022, 04:26 PM A lot of Republicans will need to replace their revenue streams after these new and necessary sanctions on Russia.
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especially trump
PaulS 02-24-2022, 04:29 PM for gods sake, you’re like a three year old. you asked me recently to prove that you ever used the word, i posted a quote of your using it.no you didn't. Your a liar. What you posted was a post where I said that I admitted I used the word in a post. Far different context and scummy. Sort of like saying my claiming you used the word retard in a post bc you used it today. i don’t know, If you admit you don't know why would you keep bringing it up now?or careBut you care enough to bring it up constantly., if it was your first use or your millionth use.
it’s a disgusting term to lob around. but again, as always, everything is ok when you guys do it.
“i used the word spazz also”.
good for you.
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Your the POS who constantly says I used the word w/o stating the context but had no problem when I first used the word yet you constantly mock Biden and say he has dementia and is an imbecile.
So you can call people imbecile but my even saying retard is wrong? Do I have that right?
scottw 02-24-2022, 04:30 PM oh no?!...for pete's sake...
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Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 05:23 PM Your the POS who constantly says I used the word w/o stating the context but had no problem when I first used the word yet you constantly mock Biden and say he has dementia and is an imbecile.
So you can call people imbecile but my even saying retard is wrong? Do I have that right?
I don't especially care what language anyone uses we're all adults, sticks and stones...
You are the one who uses offensive language and simultaneously lectures me about civility. The only time i bring up offensive language, is when somehow you feel entitled to lecture anyone on being polite. Look at how you talk to me, Dangles, TDF. Again, I could care less, I just don't feel like hearing lectures about civility from a glaring hypocrite on the matter.
You've never once that I've seen, called out Pete for the language he uses. You specifically and explicitly said you don't care.
Why? Because everything is OK to you when democrats do it.
And that r word is in a special category. You want to use it as a derogatory term for people you don't like, hey it's a free country. But perhaps drop the holier than thou attitude.
If you want to call for civility, I respect that. If you want to talk like Archie Bunker, fine. You can't talk like Archie Bunker and call for civility. Doesn't work that way.
Got Stripers 02-24-2022, 05:46 PM John should rename this forum, The Anglers Sandbox where grown men can act like children.
PaulS 02-24-2022, 06:44 PM I don't especially care what language anyone uses we're all adults, sticks and stones...
You are the one who uses offensive language and simultaneously lectures me about civility. So why should anyone take your insults and not respond in kind. Pretty arrogant to think you can constantly insult people and not expect them to respond. The only time i bring up offensive language, is when somehow you feel entitled to lecture anyone on being polite. Look at how you talk to meLook who throw the first insult this morning.
In case you can't remember, it wasn't me. , DanglesFunny, That scummy guy never, never added anything and started calling everyone who wasn't a Rep. a POS, mocked others kid's college choice and talked about people's wives., TDF. Again, I could care less, I just don't feel like hearing lectures about civility from a glaring hypocrite on the matter.How is it a hypocrite to respond to your insults in kind?????
You've never once that I've seen, called out Pete for the language he uses. You specifically and explicitly said you don't care.Your right, bc he hasn't insulted me.
Why? Because everything is OK to you when democrats do it.No, bc he hasn't insulted me. You have constantly, so why should I or anyone take your constant insults?????
And that r word is in a special category. You want to use it as a derogatory term for people you don't like, hey it's a free country. But perhaps drop the holier than thou attitude.So you won't admit that you have no idea how I used it (and didn't have a problem how I used it originally) but constantly say I used it and its is bad but you mock someone who you think has dementia, call them an imbecile and mock someone who has a speech impediment. Hilarious.
If you want to call for civility, I respect that. If you want to talk like Archie Bunker, fine. You can't talk like Archie Bunker and call for civility. Doesn't work that way.
Right. So anytime you insult me, I'll insult you back.
Jim in CT 02-24-2022, 08:33 PM you mock someone who you think has dementia, call them an imbecile and mock someone who has a speech impediment. Hilarious..
So because Biden has a speech impediment (is it stuttering?), I can't mock him for being an idiot?
I don't make fun of his stuttering, never have, never will. I'll gleefully make fun of his rambling stupidity.
Are you suggesting his stuttering is connected to, or the cause of, his incoherence? Never heard that gem before, Paul.
I called Harris an imbecile, not Biden. I guess you got tripped up by my use of the word "and". I said an alzheimer's patient and an imbecile, I meant Biden and Harris, although no one blames you for assuming I was talking about Biden when I said "imbecile". Anyone could make that mistake.
"Biden has a stutter! How dare you call him stupid!"
That's what you're saying. Brilliant..
Pete F. 02-24-2022, 10:03 PM Another Genius conservative
Lauren Witzke, the Delaware GOP's candidate for Senate in 2020, has nothing but praise for Putin and "his Christian nationalist nation": "I identify more with Putin's Christian values than I do with Joe Biden."
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Pete F. 02-24-2022, 10:05 PM So because Biden has a speech impediment (is it stuttering?), I can't mock him for being an idiot?
I don't make fun of his stuttering, never have, never will. I'll gleefully make fun of his rambling stupidity.
Are you suggesting his stuttering is connected to, or the cause of, his incoherence? Never heard that gem before, Paul.
I called Harris an imbecile, not Biden. I guess you got tripped up by my use of the word "and". I said an alzheimer's patient and an imbecile, I meant Biden and Harris, although no one blames you for assuming I was talking about Biden when I said "imbecile". Anyone could make that mistake.
"Biden has a stutter! How dare you call him stupid!"
That's what you're saying. Brilliant..
Steady, stable, methodical. That's how Biden does these speeches and answers questions. He's not prone to rhetorical flourishes like Obama, and he isn't as combatively engaged as Trump.
Love it or hate it, this is his style.
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scottw 02-25-2022, 01:54 AM Steady, stable, methodical.
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?????:rotf3:
Psaki: Biden Claim That No One Expected Sanctions to Prevent Russian Invasion Was ‘Not Exactly What He Meant’
scottw 02-25-2022, 02:02 AM So because Biden has a speech impediment (is it stuttering?), I can't mock him for being an idiot?
.
the same people that mocked Reagan for being old and senile(and he declined after he was shot in an assassination attempt), the same people that mocked Bush as stupid(he was probably dyslexic), the same people that mocked McCain as too old and unstable and could have flashbacks and start a world war(and he was a POW), the same people that mocked Romney for everything, the same people that mocked Trump for being mentally incompetent......elected Joe Biden
I wrote this down yesterday after hearing it......
"The elevation of moral posturing about sensitivity over truth"
Pete F. 02-25-2022, 06:02 AM Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey was asked today how he feels about state lawmaker Wendy Rogers in light of her recent embrace of the white nationalist movement. Ducey told reporters it's better than having a Democrat in office.
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Jim in CT 02-25-2022, 07:23 AM Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey was asked today how he feels about state lawmaker Wendy Rogers in light of her recent embrace of the white nationalist movement. Ducey told reporters it's better than having a Democrat in office.
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she appears to be a kook for sure.
but i terms of the public policies she’d enact, the governor is correct.
a republican who is an azzhole, will advocate for better public policy, than a liberal democrat who is a nice person.
i’m sure you’ll let us know if she proposes a bill that’s racist.
Let us know if there’s a republican on the planning and zoning committee in Wichita Falls who illegally took the tags off her mattress, OK?
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Pete F. 02-25-2022, 08:21 AM she appears to be a kook for sure.
but i terms of the public policies she’d enact, the governor is correct.
a republican who is an azzhole, will advocate for better public policy, than a liberal democrat who is a nice person.
i’m sure you’ll let us know if she proposes a bill that’s racist.
Let us know if there’s a republican on the planning and zoning committee in Wichita Falls who illegally took the tags off her mattress, OK?
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Because white supremacists are now members in good standing of the Trumplican Party.
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Jim in CT 02-25-2022, 08:55 AM Because white supremacists are now members in good standing of the Trumplican Party.
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no. but arizona might have reservations about liberals who want wide open borders.
so there anything happening in the world at the moment Pete, which might be a reminder that having birders sufficiently secure to make it hard for people to sneak in, is kind of a good thing?
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Jim in CT 02-25-2022, 08:57 AM Because white supremacists are now members in good standing of the Trumplican Party.
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i spent 3 minutes googling her.
has she ever said or done anything that indicates she’s enact public policy that’s harmful to non whites?
she spoke at an america first conference, hosted by a guy nobody has ever heard of, who is supposedly a white suoremacist.
Biden nominated a woman to be in charge of civil
rights at the DOJ who said publicly and explicitly, that blacks are mentally and spiritually superior to whites.
you didnt complain about that. because as always, with all you guys, it’s only a problem when republicans do it.
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Jim in CT 02-25-2022, 09:03 AM Pete -
Kristen Clarke, Bidens nominee to be the assistant attorney general at the civil rights division (of all places!!) at the DOJ, wrote this...
"Melanin endows Blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities"
An exact quote of what she wrote when she was a student at, naturally, Harvard.
Pete F. 02-25-2022, 12:14 PM Q: What do you call someone who refuses to disavow white supremacists?
A: A white supremacist.
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Pete F. 02-25-2022, 12:15 PM Pete -
Kristen Clarke, Bidens nominee to be the assistant attorney general at the civil rights division (of all places!!) at the DOJ, wrote this...
"Melanin endows Blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities"
An exact quote of what she wrote when she was a student at, naturally, Harvard.
Now tell us about DeSantis, Cruz and McEnany
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detbuch 02-25-2022, 12:32 PM Q: What do you call someone who refuses to disavow white supremacists?
A: A white supremacist.
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Q: What is a white supremacist?
A: Whatever Pete F. implies that it is.
Q: Who is a white supremacist?
A: Whoever Pete F says is a white supremacist.
Q: Does Pete F believe that someone who is on record at least 20 times disavowing white supremacists is actually a white supremacist?
A: Yes, if he didn't a few times or once disavow white supremacists.
scottw 02-25-2022, 12:34 PM Q: What do you call someone who refuses to disavow white supremacists?
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what do you call someone who calls everyone a white supremacist?
Pete F. 02-25-2022, 01:03 PM Some should ask themselves, why the Republican party keeps getting whiter
Jim in CT 02-25-2022, 01:40 PM what do you call someone who calls everyone a white supremacist?
a liberal
detbuch 02-25-2022, 02:38 PM Some should ask themselves, why the Republican party keeps getting whiter
Currently 17% of non-white House members are Republicans. This represents a shift from the last Congress, when just 10% of non-White lawmakers were Republicans. A gain of 7%.
So what?
Jim in CT 02-25-2022, 03:14 PM Currently 17% of non-white House members are Republicans. This represents a shift from the last Congress, when just 10% of non-White lawmakers were Republicans. A gain of 7%.
So what?
And there's a shift, if not a sea-change, occurring with Hispanics. Pete doesn't know this because they don't discuss it where he gets his news, but they are shifting right.
wdmso 02-25-2022, 08:42 PM Currently 17% of non-white House members are Republicans. This represents a shift from the last Congress, when just 10% of non-White lawmakers were Republicans. A gain of 7%.
So what?
Sounds progressive. Dosn’t look progressive
Pete F. 02-25-2022, 09:20 PM And there's a shift, if not a sea-change, occurring with Hispanics. Pete doesn't know this because they don't discuss it where he gets his news, but they are shifting right.
Sure boys
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