Former President Donald Trump decried the lack of "takers" for his challenge for a televised debate over the results of the 2020 election.

His comments came in a statement issued through his Save America PAC on Tuesday.

He said: "It’s really interesting, everybody wants me on television, I get the highest ratings by far, they need ratings to survive, and yet I put out a challenge to debate me about the massive election fraud, which took place in the 2020 presidential election, and there are no takers — think of it, zero takers for the so-called 'ratings machine.'


"The reason is, they know they can’t win. All I have to do is lay out the facts — they are irrefutable. I’ve supposedly won all my political debates, but this would be the easiest of them all!


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BUt But Biden seen with out a Mask :tm:

This may be a stretch for you, but two things can be true at once.

First, Trump is a morally bankrupt, unbelievably obnoxious egomaniac.

Second, our sitting POTUS violated his own suggestions, as well as local guidelines and a sign on the door, by taking his mask off.

Both of those things can be true at the same time. Nobody said that a maskless Biden was a huge, massive story.

Jeesh. You're doing more damage control on this, than Bidens team is doing. It's not a big deal, it was a minor, minor gaffe that has bad optics.

but Trump!

When do you stop responding to all Biden criticism, with "but Trump..."? What's the statute of limitations on that?

This may be a stretch for you, but two things can be true at once.

First, Trump is a morally bankrupt, unbelievably obnoxious egomaniac.

Second, our sitting POTUS violated his own suggestions, as well as local guidelines and a sign on the door, by taking his mask off.

Both of those things can be true at the same time. Nobody said that a maskless Biden was a huge, massive story.

Jeesh. You're doing more damage control on this, than Bidens team is doing. It's not a big deal, it was a minor, minor gaffe that has bad optics.

but Trump!

When do you stop responding to all Biden criticism, with "but Trump..."? What's the statute of limitations on that?


Only you have the ability to these 2 issues as the same it’s a gift you have

As I have said I look at Biden’s history of wearing a mask ..

and as someone who wore a mask on a Trip to California! even as the perfect liberal you think I am.

A few times i removed my mask to drink or eat . And I made the cardinal sin like Biden , I forgot to instantly put it back on!

Offending many conservatives like your self and many conservatives Who refuse to wear a mask to begin with

But seems You can’t see the Irony

In you Faux outrage


Taking a snap shot in time twisting it into 5 pages of out rage …
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Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday released a statement criticizing Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., for "abandoning her former country," as a child and repeating a conspiracy theory that her ex-husband is her brother.

"Congresswoman Ilhan Omar should apologize for marrying her brother, committing large-scale immigration and election fraud,


Let me guess Nothing xenophobic or islamophobic in that statement just the facts LOL
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^^^^^^^


but Trump!

When do you stop responding to all Biden criticism, with "but Trump..."? What's the statute of limitations on that?



never:rotf2:

^^^^^^^


never:rotf2:

why stop at trump? why not point out all the mistakes made by Martin Van Buren while we’re at it?
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Taking a snap shot in time twisting it into 5 pages of out rage …

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everyone is laughing at him because he's a hypocritical dope...how is that outrage?...it's amusement....you seem outraged over our amusement

everyone is laughing at him because he's a hypocritical dope...how is that outrage?...it's amusement....you seem outraged over our amusement

as we said, they have no sense of humor, and for sure zero ability to laugh at themselves.
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as we said, they have no sense of humor, and for sure zero ability to laugh at themselves.
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Actually most just think that the people who chant that stupid phrase are barely capable of forming a cohesive sentence structure and are not expecting much more.
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exactly. where we respond with laughter, their only response is to spit hate.

it says a lot that one side has a sense of humor and the other has none.
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Actually most just think that the people who chant that stupid phrase are barely capable of forming a cohesive sentence structure and are not expecting much more.
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you think that. doesn’t mean anyone else does.

ron desantis and dan crenshaw have degrees from harvard, and both use that phrase with humor.

it’s hysterical. the crowd was obviously chanting one thing, and the reporter ( quite symbolic of the entire media) came to the defense of biden and insisted they were saying something else. it’s a riot.

you want the entire media to
serve as the public relations department of the DNC, fine. we get to laugh about it.
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Trumplicans never measured his success by what he did for them, they measured by what he did AGAINST people they don't like.
That's why they see him as being "successful" and why they will never abandon him.
His tormenting of "the others" sustains them.

Deplorable isn't it.

Trumplicans never measured his success by what he did for them, they measured by what he did AGAINST people they don't like.
That's why they see him as being "successful" and why they will never abandon him.
His tormenting of "the others" sustains them.

Deplorable isn't it.

i measure trumps success in terms of things he did to help everyone - tax cuts, net energy independence, ridiculously low unemployment ( especially minorities), increased funding for black schools, creation of economic opportunity zones in our cities, tax cuts, keeping us safe

because i’m not a liberal, i can also measure his failures in terms of things he didn’t do that would have helped us all, like lack of improving health insurance, lack of building the wall, not putting down riots in the summer of 2020. i don’t have to pretend he had no failures. he had some
doozies.
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Trumplicans never measured his success by what he did for them, they measured by what he did AGAINST people they don't like.
That's why they see him as being "successful" and why they will never abandon him.
His tormenting of "the others" sustains them.

Deplorable isn't it.

That is exactly right. If the right thinks they can "own" someone they are happy.

Deplorable seems to be the perfect word for today's R party.

Deplorable seems to be the perfect word for today's R party.

i think that’s being too kind.
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Trumplicans never measured his success by what he did for them, they measured by what he did AGAINST people they don't like.
That's why they see him as being "successful" and why they will never abandon him.
His tormenting of "the others" sustains them.

Deplorable isn't it.

Swami Pete preaches to the cult.

And in sotto voce they religiously reply the mantra --"That is exactly right. If the right thinks they can 'own' someone they are happy. Deplorable seems to be the perfect word for today's R party."

Ommmmm . . . . . . alleluia alleluia alleluia . . . do not fear! Swami Pete will save us from the devil Trump! Halleluja!

You even have people who don't fish come here just to insult people - classy.

You even have people who don't fish come here just to insult people - classy.

i fished a ton this year, , if you were referring to me.

and i think it’s funny that someone who clearly thinks that insulting people is devoid of class, is comfortable referring to everyone who disagrees with him, as deplorable. so insults are only ok when you do it.

get over yourself Paul, you like to hurl insults as much as anyone.
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You even have people who don't fish come here just to insult people - classy.

Heh-heh

i fished a ton this year, , if you were referring to me.

and i think it’s funny that someone who clearly thinks that insulting people is devoid of class, is comfortable referring to everyone who disagrees with him, as deplorable. so insults are only ok when you do it.

get over yourself Paul, you like to hurl insults as much as anyone.
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75% of R's believe the election was stolen. Pretty deplorable wouldn't you say?

Seems some here fail to grasp who’s actually In control of the GOP.
And it’s Trump

Ps the majority of Conservatives have no sense of humor and never have …. Hence their love for nicknames it’s retro for them it reminds them of their time on the play ground
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Actually most just think that the people who chant that stupid phrase are barely capable of forming a cohesive sentence structure and are not expecting much more.
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:rolleyes: Because there are some real Rhodes Scholars running around on the other side.
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everyone is laughing at him because he's a hypocritical dope...how is that outrage?...it's amusement....you seem outraged over our amusement

Everybody. Is laughing? It must be crowed in that bubble you inhabit….

What’s amusing is the people who are the most outrage about Biden without a mask for a minute

Are the ones who refuse to wear them or cry endlessly about wearing one or insist they don’t work..

That’s not hypocritical it’s just moronic

And if you need to criticize Biden for not wearing a mask. you stink of frivolous desperation .
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That’s not hypocritical it’s just moronic


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this may be true...biden may be too dumb or detached to realize he looks like a complete hypocrite

75% of R's believe the election was stolen. Pretty deplorable wouldn't you say?

it’s stupid to believe that, for sure.

stacey abrams, who claims she was robbed of an election victory, is pretty visible and influential
in the democratic party. if fake, baseless claims of
election fraud are deplorable, why haven’t the democrats cast her off? guy can’t embrace those who make fake claims of cheating, and chastise those in the other side who do the same thing Paul. I’m not saying stacey abrams is trump, but she shows up in a lot of lefty circles, and nobody ever asks her to stop making false claims of fraud. as always, it’s ok when democrats do it.

the democrats are trying to convince america that cops are hell bent on assassinating blacks. pretty deplorable, wouldn’t you say?

i’m not saying there aren’t republicans who are repugnant. of course there are. but i can give you as many examples as you’d like, of democrats being equally repugnant.
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barely capable of forming a cohesive sentence structure.......
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Everybody. Is laughing? It must be crowed in that bubble you inhabit….

What’s amusing is the people who are the most outrage about Biden without a mask for a minute

Are the ones who refuse to wear them or cry endlessly about wearing one or insist they don’t work..

That’s not hypocritical it’s just moronic

And if you need to criticize Biden for not wearing a mask. you stink of frivolous desperation .
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stacey abrams, who claims she was robbed of an election victory, is pretty visible and influential
in the democratic party. if fake, baseless claims of
election fraud are deplorable, why haven’t the democrats cast her off?

She's not making fake, baseless claims of election fraud. She said the election wasn't fair. Her opponent, who as secretary of state at the time managed elections, refused to recuse himself and instead ordered a massive purge of voter rolls after his announcement to run and cancelled pending voter registrations mostly impacting black people a month before the election. This is well established fact.

Doesn't mean she would have won but Kemp's behavior was a serious conflict of interest and I believe a judge ruled some of his office's actions were illegal.

it’s stupid to believe that, for sure.

stacey abrams, who claims she was robbed of an election victory, is pretty visible and influential
in the democratic party. if fake, baseless claims of
election fraud are deplorable, why haven’t the democrats cast her off? guy can’t embrace those who make fake claims of cheating, and chastise those in the other side who do the same thing Paul. I’m not saying stacey abrams is trump, but she shows up in a lot of lefty circles, and nobody ever asks her to stop making false claims of fraud. as always, it’s ok when democrats do it. was it claims of fraud or that voting rolls where purged, etc?

the democrats are trying to convince america that cops are hell bent on assassinating blacks. pretty deplorable, wouldn’t you say? what % of cop shootings are deemed not justified?
There has to be some % that are not justified?

i’m not saying there aren’t republicans who are repugnant. of course there are. but i can give you as many examples as you’d like, of democrats being equally repugnant.
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Certainly not 75% or whatever high % it is.

And I could care less how much you fish other than if you like to fish, it is too bad you (or anyone else) doesn't get out more.

Certainly not 75% or whatever high % it is.

And I could care less how much you fish other than if you like to fish, it is too bad you (or anyone else) doesn't get out more.

sure some cop shootings aren’t justified. but it’s a very low %. and that’s not what gets reported, that’s not what BLM believes or says. You don’t think democrats are throwing cops under the bus for political gain? ,
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sure some cop shootings aren’t justified. but it’s a very low %. and that’s not what gets reported, that’s not what BLM believes or says. You don’t think democrats are throwing cops under the bus for political gain? ,
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Throwing cops under the bus for political gain is probably a loser. Defund the police might be the worst campaign slogan ever thought of.
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sure some cop shootings aren’t justified. but it’s a very low %.
I'm not sure that's a reasonable statement to make. Most police shootings historically have been swept under the rug by the system. It's another reason why states should be required to report actual data.

I'm not sure that's a reasonable statement to make. Most police shootings historically have been swept under the rug by the system. It's another reason why states should be required to report actual data.

i’m sure you’re not sure, because you’re a thoughtless lemming.

we hear about every questionable cop shooting. they no longer get swept under the rug, the media is all
over it.
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Throwing cops under the bus for political gain is probably a loser. Defund the police might be the worst campaign slogan ever thought of.
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whether it’s a loser or a winner in terms of political outcome, isn’t it a horrible thing to do to cops? don’t they deserve better? and i’m
not saying they deserve to be treated as above accountability. but the data is crystal clear, unjustified shootings are very rare. one is too many, but it’s not an epidemic
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whether it’s a loser or a winner in terms of political outcome, isn’t it a horrible thing to do to cops? don’t they deserve better? and i’m
not saying they deserve to be treated as above accountability. but the data is crystal clear, unjustified shootings are very rare. one is too many, but it’s not an epidemic
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I agree it's not epidemic and one is too many but the odds of even an unjustified killing being prosecuted was almost nil and that helped fuel the BLM movement. The pendulum swings both ways
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I agree it's not epidemic and one is too many but the odds of even an unjustified killing being prosecuted was almost nil and that helped fuel the BLM movement. The pendulum swings both ways
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but on this issue, the pendulum swinging too far results in innocent cops being killed. democrats made a political calculation that a few dead cops is a price worth paying in order to work up the base.
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this may be true...biden may be too dumb or detached to realize he looks like a complete hypocrite

Who appears to be patient zero walking around with Covid very likely infecting others when he knew he was infected or at the very least had a reasonable idea he was infected s

The former White House staffer wrote that Trump took the negative antigen test as “full permission to press on as if nothing had happened,” but Meadows “instructed everyone in his immediate circle to treat him as if he was positive.” Meadows added: “I didn’t want to take any unnecessary risks

But now Mark Meadow will be the the latest former Trump official to be labeled a RINO for telling the Truth

So Trump try’s to overturn the election , is blocking the Jan 6th commission claiming privilege he don’t have , attacks members of Congress for not spreading the big lie , now seems to be patient Zero put people around him at risk

But Biden is seen with out a mask for a minute and the usual suspects go wild..

Yep that what normal people call moronic

Trump supporters call it leadership
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Trump: Biden 'One-Trick Pony' Pushing COVID-19 Vaccine Friday, 03 December 2021


"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.“ —Joseph Goebbels and Donald Trump

Trump: Biden 'One-Trick Pony' Pushing COVID-19 Vaccine Friday, 03 December 2021


"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.“ —Joseph Goebbels and Donald Trump

trump is obviously a hypocrite. i’d think you’d admire that since you’re a master of hypocrisy.

biden attacked trumps “remain in mexico” policy, promised to do away with it. now he’s expanding it. even the idiots in The View were letting Biden have it. if he’s angering those clowns, that’s a terrific sign!

( identical biden hypocrisy on covid travel bans.).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/sparks-fly-fiery-view-clash-broken-biden-campaign-promise-remain-in-mexico-policy.amp

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trump is obviously a hypocrite. i’d think you’d admire that since you’re a master of hypocrisy.

biden attacked trumps “remain in mexico” policy, promised to do away with it. now he’s expanding it. even the idiots in The View were letting Biden have it. if he’s angering those clowns, that’s a terrific sign!

( identical biden hypocrisy on covid travel bans.).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/sparks-fly-fiery-view-clash-broken-biden-campaign-promise-remain-in-mexico-policy.amp

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You do know remain in Mexico was reinstated due to a court order correct. And they are complying with a federal court order in Texas

Only you Jim sees compliance with a court order as hypocritical..

Your logic is with out equal

Wow what an expansion to include anyone from the Western Hemisphere not just Mexicans oh the horror
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You do know remain in Mexico was reinstated due to a court order correct. And they are complying with a federal court order in Texas

Only you Jim sees compliance with a court order as hypocritical..
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The issue is he gets most of his information from tabloids.

This guy sounds like an American Republican



During the livestream on 24 October, Mr Bolsonaro claimed that reports "suggest that people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 are developing Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (Aids) much faster than expected".

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro on Wednesday reiterated baseless allegations of U.S. election fraud and continued to back President Donald Trump, as the American leader’s supporters invaded the U.S. Capitol building.


its funny to see Who are Trump friends and who Trump supports in return

Trump lauds 'great friend' Jair Bolsonaro, as the Brazilian president has 9 criminal charges recommended against him Oct 27, 2021

The GOP has an integrity problem and it starts at the Top

During the livestream on 24 October, Mr Bolsonaro claimed that reports "suggest that people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 are developing Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (Aids) much faster than expected".



sounds like the kind of thing biden would babble...

Counties that went heavily for Donald Trump have seen much lower vaccination rates and much higher death rates from COVID

Imagine that
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Counties that went heavily for Donald Trump have seen much lower vaccination rates and much higher death rates from COVID

Imagine that
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blacks and those with phds also have low vaccination rates. but you won’t discuss that.

like everything else, it’s ok when democrat demographics have low vaccination rates. you only care when republicans do it. which means you don’t actually believe it’s bad to be unvaccinated.
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blacks and those with phds also have low vaccination rates. but you won’t discuss that.

like everything else, it’s ok when democrat demographics have low vaccination rates. you only care when republicans do it. which means you don’t actually believe it’s bad to be unvaccinated.
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still beating the same drum shocking

Black Americans Cite Low Vaccine Confidence, Mistrust, and Limited Access as Barriers to COVID-19 Vaccination

not misinformation

and you PHD example wasgie-Mellon University and Wendy C. King of the University of Pittsburgh based their study of vaccine hesitancy rates off of results from a Facebook :thanks:

Even if your claims were actually factually Trump supports out number both these groups by a factor of 10x but again everything is equal in Jims world vision

still beating the same drum shocking

Black Americans Cite Low Vaccine Confidence, Mistrust, and Limited Access as Barriers to COVID-19 Vaccination

not misinformation

and you PHD example wasgie-Mellon University and Wendy C. King of the University of Pittsburgh based their study of vaccine hesitancy rates off of results from a Facebook :thanks:

Even if your claims were actually factually Trump supports out number both these groups by a factor of 10x but again everything is equal in Jims world vision

low vaccine confidence and
mistrust aren’t misinformation?

lacking trust is why most people, regardless if mostly, are saying no to the vaccine. but it’s ok when democrats do it.

wayne, i’d really like for you to provide some evidence that people
with phds don’t have access to covid vaccines.
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People with the least access to healthcare are among the least likely to be vaccinated, that group includes blacks and rural whites.
As the people who did the study reported, the seemingly low reported vaccination rate among people holding doctoral degrees was illogical.
Vaccination rates increased with education until a doctoral degree was awarded?
No distinction was made between types of doctoral degrees and Medical professionals who compose more than 40% of the doctoral degrees awarded have a vaccination rate in the high 90s
The study has yet to be peer reviewed and is based on a Facebook survey
Your dog don’t hunt
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People with the least access to healthcare are among the least likely to be vaccinated, that group includes blacks and rural whites.
As the people who did the study reported, the seemingly low reported vaccination rate among people holding doctoral degrees was illogical.
Vaccination rates increased with education until a doctoral degree was awarded?
No distinction was made between types of doctoral degrees and Medical professionals who compose more than 40% of the doctoral degrees awarded have a vaccination rate in the high 90s
The study has yet to be peer reviewed and is based on a Facebook survey
Your dog don’t hunt
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people with phds have low vaccination rates. i didn’t say doctors. i said people with phds. i don’t know what the point is of discussing the type of PhD.

as always, you don’t like that fact, so you look for a way to dismiss it. that’s easier than admitting that things arent as simple as you want them to be.
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people with phds have low vaccination rates. i didn’t say doctors. i said people with phds. i don’t know what the point is of discussing the type of PhD.

as always, you don’t like that fact, so you look for a way to dismiss it. that’s easier than admitting that things arent as simple as you want them to be.
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There was no distinction in the study between various types of doctoral degrees
Are you claiming that medical professionals were not surveyed?
The people who performed the Facebook survey were concerned about the propriety of the data and without the ability to verify answers statistical anomalies are typically not cited as gospel.
But to try and get your dog to hunt, you’ll kick it over and over
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There was no distinction in the study between various types of doctoral degrees
Are you claiming that medical professionals were not surveyed?
The people who performed the Facebook survey were concerned about the propriety of the data and without the ability to verify answers statistical anomalies are typically not cited as gospel.
But to try and get your dog to hunt, you’ll kick it over and over
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all i’m claiming is what i said. people with PhDs have low vaccination rates. if it’s immoral for trumplicans to not get vaccinated, i don’t know why it’s not equally immoral for blacks or people
with PhDs to not get vaccinated. perhaps
you can explain why it’s a bigger sin for republicans to not get vaccinated than blacks or people with PhDs.

i think it’s beyond stupid for anyone to not get vaccinated. i don’t distinguish between republicans and democrats. but you and wdmso do.
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No, the statistics do.
The federal government with it’s limited powers has done what it can to get people vaccinated.
Why is it that you think that government has the right to tell some what they may or may not do with their bodies?
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No, the statistics do.
The federal government with it’s limited powers has done what it can to get people vaccinated.
Why is it that you think that government has the right to tell some what they may or may not do with their bodies?
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there you go again sadly. i cannot imagine what i said that would
make you think i believe the government can force people
to get vaccinated

what i said, and i’m
right, is that lefties are very selective about who they insult for not being vaccinated. lefties get all worked up about trumplicans not being vaccinated, but refuse to address blacks and PhDs who aren’t vaccinated.
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there you go again sadly. i cannot imagine what i said that would
make you think i believe the government can force people
to get vaccinated

what i said, and i’m
right, is that lefties are very selective about who they insult for not being vaccinated. lefties get all worked up about trumplicans not being vaccinated, but refuse to address blacks and PhDs who aren’t vaccinated.
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You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and others.

The media that’s telling you to be insulted is also telling people that vaccination is bad.
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You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and others.

The media that’s telling you to be insulted is also telling people that vaccination is bad.
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let’s go slow here.

do you support state laws which prohibit female teachers from having consensual relations with male students?

i bet you do. almost everyone does.

If i’m correct in assuming you support those laws, that means YOU support laws which limit the choices women can make with their own bodies, IF those choices would hurt “someone else”.

therefore, the only thing that matters in the abortion debate, is whether or not the baby represents “someone else.”

That’s it. everything else is a smokescreen.

every criminal law on the books, limits the choices we can make, so stop pretending that there aren’t any limits you’d place on the choices women can make with their own bodies.

i’ve had this debate a thousand times. there is no liberal response to this. none.

it’s not about “choice”, because you and i both agree that choices should be limited when “someone else” is hurt.

All that matters, is whether or not the baby represents “someone else.”

i’m 100% ok with people ( including women) making any choices they want, as long as they don’t hurt someone else.
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let’s go slow here

i’m 100% ok with people ( including women) making any choices they want, as long as they don’t hurt someone else.
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It’s really simple

You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save what you believe to be a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and the lives of others
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It’s really simple

You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save what you believe to be a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and the lives of others
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this is really stupid...I don't even know how to respond to the highlighted stupidity above

the odds of a healthy baby dying from abortion is near 100%

the odds of a healthy person dying from covid is near 0%

since we now know that both women and men can have babies....I don't believe that the government should force women and men to get pregnant or get vaccinated

It’s really simple

You believe that government has the right to force women to carry a baby for 9 months to save what you believe to be a life, but not that she should have to be vaccinated to save her life, the infants and the lives of others
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that’s exactly right.

where in the constitution would you find any language giving the federal government the authority to
mandate that someone take
medicine they don’t want?

here’s a question for you, and good
luck
answering this one.

why is it a crime for someone to assault a pregnant woman and
kill the baby? if the unborn isn’t a human being, how can killing the baby be murder?

unless you’d say that it’s a human if the mom wants it, but not a human if the mom doesn’t want it, and that’s beyond stupid. the mothers state of
mind changes nothing as far as the baby is concerned. the moms intentions don’t bestow humanity.
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this is really stupid...I don't even know how to respond to the highlighted stupidity above

the odds of a healthy baby dying from abortion is near 100%

the odds of a healthy person dying from covid is near 0%

since we now know that both women and men can have babies....I don't believe that the government should force women and men to get pregnant or get vaccinated

the lack of logic ( and compassion) is breathtaking.
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people with phds have low vaccination rates. i didn’t say doctors. i said people with phds. i don’t know what the point is of discussing the type of PhD.

as always, you don’t like that fact, so you look for a way to dismiss it. that’s easier than admitting that things arent as simple as you want them to be.
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I know some pretty stupid smart people, if you aren’t watching the death toll climb, hospital ICU’s beginning to load up again in colder climates and noting it’s still primarily the unvaccinated suffering the worst and not reconsidering vaccination; maybe your not as smart as your PHD might indicate.

all i’m claiming is what i said. people with PhDs have low vaccination rates. if it’s immoral for trumplicans to not get vaccinated, i don’t know why it’s not equally immoral for blacks or people
with PhDs to not get vaccinated. perhaps
you can explain why it’s a bigger sin for republicans to not get vaccinated than blacks or people with PhDs.

i think it’s beyond stupid for anyone to not get vaccinated. i don’t distinguish between republicans and democrats. but you and wdmso do.
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For what its worth 96% of staff at UCONN (which includes faculty, admin, maintenance etc..) and 98% of Eastern faculty are fully vaccinated (this is higher than the 90% rate of the non-faculty staff). Southern, Central and Western have similar numbers. Is this indicative of very college and PHD out there, of course not. But if you look at the original study, there were some flaws in that for sure, and I bet if they ran it again, they would get different results, so I would be careful hanging a hat on this one stat....
Back to hiding, carry on the circlejerk...

For what its worth 96% of staff at UCONN (which includes faculty, admin, maintenance etc..) and 98% of Eastern faculty are fully vaccinated (this is higher than the 90% rate of the non-faculty staff). Southern, Central and Western have similar numbers. Is this indicative of very college and PHD out there, of course not. But if you look at the original study, there were some flaws in that for sure, and I bet if they ran it again, they would get different results, so I would be careful hanging a hat on this one stat....
Back to hiding, carry on the circlejerk...

i’d also bet it would be different if they ran it today. but my point is, liberals are furious that diehard trumplicans aren’t vaccinated, but don’t express any concern over their own cells that have low vaccination rates.

i can’t imagine anyone not being vaccinated.

have a great holiday RH.
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But if you look at the original study, there were some flaws in that for sure, and I bet if they ran it again, they would get different results, so I would be careful hanging a hat on this one stat....
Some flaws? They had no way of verifying education levels and believe people were putting in more extreme answers for partisan purposes.

Some flaws? They had no way of verifying education levels and believe people were putting in more extreme answers for partisan purposes.

how about blacks?
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i don’t distinguish between republicans and democrats. but you and wdmso do.

Maybe you should because the distinction is Huge ., and the reasons Republicans refuse the vaccine the masks and any other suggestion to combat Covid

Is based 99.99 % on misinformation and political bias spewed by Republicans and conservatives themselves ..

Yes their are other groups who also choose or have smaller overall vaccine rates but the Truth is

analysis finds that Republicans and Republican leaning independents, who represent 41% of adults, now make up 60% of the adult unvaccinated population across the country and that political partisanship is a stronger predictor of whether someone is vaccinated than any demographic factor measured.
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how about blacks?
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Don’t know about the study but the cdc data appears to show black vaccination rate similar to or slightly below whites currently.

i don’t distinguish between republicans and democrats. but you and wdmso do.

Maybe you should because the distinction is Huge ., and the reasons Republicans refuse the vaccine the masks and any other suggestion to combat Covid

Is based 99.99 % on misinformation and political bias spewed by Republicans and conservatives themselves ..

Yes their are other groups who also choose or have smaller overall vaccine rates but the Truth is

analysis finds that Republicans and Republican leaning independents, who represent 41% of adults, now make up 60% of the adult unvaccinated population across the country and that political partisanship is a stronger predictor of whether someone is vaccinated than any demographic factor measured.
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i see.


so democrats won’t call
out unvaccinated blacks because unlike unvaccinated republicans, the blacks don’t know
any better?
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that’s exactly right.

where in the constitution would you find any language giving the federal government the authority to
mandate that someone take
medicine they don’t want?

here’s a question for you, and good
luck
answering this one.

why is it a crime for someone to assault a pregnant woman and
kill the baby? if the unborn isn’t a human being, how can killing the baby be murder?

unless you’d say that it’s a human if the mom wants it, but not a human if the mom doesn’t want it, and that’s beyond stupid. the mothers state of
mind changes nothing as far as the baby is concerned. the moms intentions don’t bestow humanity.
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The death of an unborn child was not considered murder in the Old Testament, but just like federal law until 2004 could be a cause for a tort claim.

You can explain to the vast majority of Jews that you don’t care what their religion tells them, yours is the one recognized by the Supreme Court.

And if life concerns you so much perhaps you and the rest of them prolife movement should consider doing something about healthcare for Americans since we rank near last among developed nations in infant/maternal mortality, 33rd of 36!
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The death of an unborn child was not considered murder in the Old Testament, but just like federal law until 2004 could be a cause for a tort claim.

You can explain to the vast majority of Jews that you don’t care what their religion tells them, yours is the one recognized by the Supreme Court.

And if life concerns you so much perhaps you and the rest of them prolife movement should consider doing something about healthcare for Americans since we rank near last among developed nations in infant/maternal mortality, 33rd of 36!
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i asked why it’s murder now. most liberals few it should be a crime doesn’t make sense

you just don’t get it. the supreme
court isn’t considering a religious belief. the supreme court is considering whether or not the question of abortion is a federal issue or a state issue. not whether abortion is moral or not.

i’ve said many times we can and should improve the safety net for people who need it.

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i see.


so democrats won’t call
out unvaccinated blacks because unlike unvaccinated republicans, the blacks don’t know
any better?
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Actually black leaders are encouraging blacks to get vaccinated, not sure why right wing media is not.
But the effect is showing

Since May 2021, people living in counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump during the last presidential election have been nearly three times as likely to die from COVID-19 as those who live in areas that went for now-President Biden.
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Actually black leaders are encouraging blacks to get vaccinated, not sure why right wing media is not.

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which right wing media members are unvaccinated and encouraging others to not get vaccinated?

which right wing media members are unvaccinated and encouraging others to not get vaccinated?

he conveniently left out that Kamala Harris said she’d refuse to take any vaccine that trump suggested americans take.

she gets a complete and total
free pass, for telling those who listen to her ( for whatever godforsaken reason) not to get vaccinated. Subsequently, blacks have very low vaccine rates.

instead of blaming that on an influential black person who spoke against vaccines, Pete blames republicans.

Shocker!
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i see.


so democrats won’t call
out unvaccinated blacks because unlike unvaccinated republicans, the blacks don’t know
any better?
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Blacks 13% of the population whites 76%

I know it’s the same thing.in your brain

Ps not all blacks are liberals nor are whites and not all liberal are pro vaccines and not all Republicans are anti vaccine

But these studies are clear Republicans are unvaccinated based mainly misinformation

Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans

Bigtree has been banned from social media platforms like YouTube for making false claims about the dangers of COVID vaccines. But as the pandemic has dragged on, his conservative audience keeps growing. Often he speaks at conferences alongside people who claim the election was rigged, and promoters of QAnon conspiracy theories.
So I suggest again Jim you focus on the Truth if you throw a rock into a group of the unvaccinated or anti Abortion you have the highest statistical likelihood to hit a Republican . Not a Black person or some one with PHD .. and if you did hit some one in the other group even they would more likely be Republicans

Just give up the evidence is overwhelming

Nearly 40% of Republicans are still hesitant about getting the Covid-19 vaccine or refuse to get it,

There is good news the trend to get vaccinated has shifted a bit

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/07/28/here-are-the-republicans-most-likely-to-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine-poll-finds/
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I hope we get a variant that only attacks the vaccinated...that will be hysterical...actually, every case I've heard of Omicron so far has been in fully vaccinated people...so maybe???

get your Christmas shopping done!

Bigtree has been banned from social media platforms like YouTube for making false claims

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this is devastating....who is bigtree?

Jim Jordan says 'real America is done with Covid.'
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Blacks 13% of the population whites 76%



Ps not all blacks are liberals nor are whites and not all liberal are pro vaccines and not all Republicans are anti vaccine

But these studies are clear Republicans are unvaccinated based mainly misinformation

Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans

Bigtree has been banned from social media platforms like YouTube for making false claims about the dangers of COVID vaccines. But as the pandemic has dragged on, his conservative audience keeps growing. Often he speaks at conferences alongside people who claim the election was rigged, and promoters of QAnon conspiracy theories.
So I suggest again Jim you focus on the Truth if you throw a rock into a group of the unvaccinated or anti Abortion you have the highest statistical likelihood to hit a Republican . Not a Black person or some one with PHD .. and if you did hit some one in the other group even they would more likely be Republicans

Just give up the evidence is overwhelming

Nearly 40% of Republicans are still hesitant about getting the Covid-19 vaccine or refuse to get it,

There is good news the trend to get vaccinated has shifted a bit

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/07/28/here-are-the-republicans-most-likely-to-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine-poll-finds/
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"I know it’s the same thing.in your brain"

I didn't say there are more blacks than whites. I said blacks have low vaccination rates. In fact, they have the lowest vaccination rates of any race in the US.

Why is that? Maybe they are listening to what Kamala Harris said.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-COVID-Vaccine&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIieDqtrLP9AIVSP_jBx1-pgffEAAYASAAEgIONfD_BwE

"Republicans are unvaccinated based mainly misinformation "

OK. Since you seem to know why different groups are unvaccinated, please explain why blacks are unvaccinated? You can't blame Trump, because he's telling people to get vaccinated.

You insult unvaccinated Republicans for being misinformed. Fine. Tell us why blacks are also rejecting the vaccine?

Unless there's a reason (political, perhaps?) that you are too scared to address that point.

"Bigtree has been banned from social media platforms"

I have never heard of Bigtree. Not exactly as influential as Rush Limbaugh.

"and if you did hit some one in the other group even they would more likely be Republicans "

You're saying unvaccinated blacks are Republicans? Look at the data I posted. As of December 2, only 36% of blacks were fully vaccinated. Therefore, 64% of blacks have not been vaccinated. You think that many blacks are Republican? Is that what you are saying?

Please post SOME DATA, ANY DATA, to support your theory that unvaccinated blacks are mostly Republicans. I would really, really enjoy seeing that data.

Bigtree. I love it. Bigtree speaks for the entire GOP.

he conveniently left out that Kamala Harris said she’d refuse to take any vaccine that trump suggested americans take.
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She said she wouldn’t take a vaccine just because Trump suggested it alone, but she would look to the medical professionals.

She said she wouldn’t take a vaccine just because Trump suggested it alone, but she would look to the medical professionals.

she said ( after saying she’d want to hear from doctors) if trump tells us to take it, i’m not taking it. and trump is telling us to take it. Therefore, an idiot who listens to her, might be confused by what she’s saying. but she gets a complete pass, because she’s a democrat, and according to you, they can’t be wrong.
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unvaccinated blacks are mostly Republicans ? Why are you making things up again

Just accept it Republicans way way more likely then any other demographic to be unvaccinated and you can thank the GOP and conservatives and BIGTREE conservatives love him and his anti vax stance ..

Jim Jordan says 'real America is done with Covid.' Who’s he speaking For ? Americans nope the GOPQ that’s who

Please Jim keep selling your needle in a haystack stories as actual trends like your Harris’s comment completely out of context …
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she said ( after saying she’d want to hear from doctors) if trump tells us to take it, i’m not taking it. and trump is telling us to take it. Therefore, an idiot who listens to her, might be confused by what she’s saying. but she gets a complete pass, because she’s a democrat, and according to you, they can’t be wrong.
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You are a beyond desperate.. to make a point that doesn’t exist except in your imagination

Trump promise by Election Day which always appeared improbable and politically motivated ….


Democrats, and HARRIS a comment have expressed fears that the Trump administration would rush to approve a vaccine that had not been proved safe or effective for political purposes

Not because they didn’t believe in vaccines

of course Trump would try to push treatments that don’t work can you say Hydroxychloroquine

Then tried to steal the election
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You are a beyond desperate.. to make a point that doesn’t exist except in your imagination

Trump promise by Election Day which always appeared improbable and politically motivated ….


Democrats, and HARRIS a comment have expressed fears that the Trump administration would rush to approve a vaccine that had not been proved safe or effective for political purposes

Not because they didn’t believe in vaccines

of course Trump would try to push treatments that don’t work can you say Hydroxychloroquine

Then tried to steal the election
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i’m desperate.

i admit every bad thing trump has done.

i share a video of Stacey Abrams saying her election was stolen, and you still deny she said the election was stolen. because democrats can’t be wrong.

and i’m desperate.

i’ve asked you twice why so many blacks are unvaccinated ( since you seem to know why people are t vaccinated) and you keep
dodging.

and i’m the desperate one.

sheesh.

i actually have no clue why black vaccination rates are so
low. I do know, it’s not because they’re mostly republicans. THAT was deranged
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she said ( after saying she’d want to hear from doctors) if trump tells us to take it, i’m not taking it. and trump is telling us to take it. Therefore, an idiot who listens to her, might be confused by what she’s saying. but she gets a complete pass, because she’s a democrat, and according to you, they can’t be wrong.
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If you listen to the interview and debate she's obviously saying I wouldn't take medical advice from a guy who thinks you should inject bleach into your body.

i share a video of Stacey Abrams saying her election was stolen, and you still deny she said the election was stolen.
I'm wagering you weren't on the debate team at UCONN.

I'm wagering you weren't on the debate team at UCONN.

Nope.

But I'm secure enough in my beliefs, that I can admit when people on my side behave badly. Also secure enough in my beliefs, that I don't have to agree with every single thing that's on the official policy agenda of my side. I can easily admit there are good and bad people, good and bad ideas, on both sides.

I didn't debate at UCONN, but, I learned how to think logically and solve problems.

Makes one of us.

Great zinger, you've really got me on the ropes.

I'm wagering you weren't on the debate team at UCONN.

Remind us, what are the policies on which you disagree with todays democrat party, and on which you agree with the GOP?

And if you can't name one, just say that you don't think the democrats are wrong on anything.

Remind us, what are the policies on which you disagree with todays democrat party, and on which you agree with the GOP?

And if you can't name one, just say that you don't think the democrats are wrong on anything.

Boy you must be loving even MSNBC coming down hard on Biden’s travel bans, which I agree are stupid in light of the speed at which we now know these Covid variations travel. OMG you and I agree on something.

You probably won’t be happy with the latest NPR study indicating areas voting heavily for Trump are dying at three times the rate of the national average with Covid.

Boy you must be loving even MSNBC coming down hard on Biden’s travel bans, which I agree are stupid in light of the speed at which we now know these Covid variations travel. OMG you and I agree on something.

You probably won’t be happy with the latest NPR study indicating areas voting heavily for Trump are dying at three times the rate of the national average with Covid.

Biden attacked Trumps travel ban, then did the same thing. i’d like someone to ask biden why it was racist and xenophobic for Trump
to do it but brilliant when he does it. i think it's a fair question.

no, i’m not happy ( unlike you?). that trump supporters are dying in higher numbers. I can’t believe anyone wouldn’t get vaccinated. makes no sense to me.
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Biden attacked Trumps travel ban, then did the same thing. i’d like someone to ask biden why it was racist and xenophobic for Trump
to do it but brilliant when he does it. i think it's a fair question.

no, i’m not happy ( unlike you?). that trump supporters are dying in higher numbers. I can’t believe anyone wouldn’t get vaccinated. makes no sense to me.
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I don’t wish anyone suffer or die from Covid, but the messaging from the top down on the right will cost lives.

I don’t wish anyone suffer or die from Covid, but the messaging from the top down on the right will cost lives.

trump is telling people to get vaccinated. always has.

who is at the top on the right that’s telling people not to get vaccinated?

that’s a sincere question.

and i know you don’t wish anything bad to happen to anybody.
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trump is telling people to get vaccinated. always has.

who is at the top on the right that’s telling people not to get vaccinated?

that’s a sincere question.

and i know you don’t wish anything bad to happen to anybody.
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Really are you seriously asking if messaging on the right isn’t anti vaccine, come on Jim really.

Really are you seriously asking if messaging on the right isn’t anti vaccine, come on Jim really.

Name someone…
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SEAN HANNITY: And it absolutely makes sense for many Americans to get vaccinated. I believe in science. I believe in the science of vaccination.
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Ooops. Not that guy🤣🤣🤣
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Name someone…
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Really you too, OMG Fox has been bashing the vaccine forever, today Matt I hope I can avoid jail time Gaetz said the best vaccine is getting Covid; well there is no cure for stupid. Crap pick a right leaning nut job like him, Ron Johnson or throw a dart to the right.

Really you too, OMG Fox has been bashing the vaccine forever, today Matt I hope I can avoid jail time Gaetz said the best vaccine is getting Covid; well there is no cure for stupid.

Who?
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aug 4

Sean Hannity, one of the highest-profile Fox News hosts, told his audience he believes “in the science of vaccination.” Steve Doocy, co-host of the right-leaning Fox & Friends morning show, told viewers the shot “will save your life.” And Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who’s running for governor of Arkansas after a stint as a Fox News contributor and White House press secretary under former President Donald Trump, penned an op-ed last week encouraging people to consider getting the “Trump vaccine.”
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aug 4

Sean Hannity, one of the highest-profile Fox News hosts, told his audience he believes “in the science of vaccination.” Steve Doocy, co-host of the right-leaning Fox & Friends morning show, told viewers the shot “will save your life.” And Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who’s running for governor of Arkansas after a stint as a Fox News contributor and White House press secretary under former President Donald Trump, penned an op-ed last week encouraging people to consider getting the “Trump vaccine.”
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August 4th really you stuck in time? No TV in your house, maybe a go fund me to help?

Really are you seriously asking if messaging on the right isn’t anti vaccine, come on Jim really.

yea i am. and you didn’t provide a name. wdmso said big birch tree or something like that, someone i never heard of.

Trump had been very very clear. he’s pro vaccine.
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August 4th really you stuck in time? No TV in your house, maybe a go fund me to help?

Please name someone who is saying don’t get vaccinated
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August 4th really you stuck in time? No TV in your house, maybe a go fund me to help?

he keeps asking you for names for republicans “at the top” who are saying not to get vaccinated.
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and you didn’t provide a name. wdmso said big birch tree or something like that,

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That was classic!
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That was classic!
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bigger than Rush Limbaugh.
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That was classic!
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Tom Cotton: “i’m
getting vaccinated, I encourage everyone to get theirs.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc27.com/news/washington-dc/gop-lawmakers-urge-fellow-republicans-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/amp/

Gov Desantis is very pro vaccine.
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yea i am. and you didn’t provide a name. wdmso said big birch tree or something like that, someone i never heard of.

Trump had been very very clear. he’s pro vaccine.
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I’m confused is Trump on the top or the bottom, I thought he was the loser? Maybe you can explain then why Trump voting strong holds are dying at three time the rate, is he the loser or the crazy mothers that still believe he is president?

I’m confused is Trump on the top or the bottom, I thought he was the loser? Maybe you can explain then why Trump voting strong holds are dying at three time the rate, is he the loser or the crazy mothers that still believe he is president?

i think he’s not on top. but you guys are all still obsessed with him. he was on top when vaccines rolled out.

you insulted me
for not knowing that republicans at the top are bashing vaccines,,but couldn’t name
anyone if anyone influence who’s doing so.

because there aren’t a large number of really influential republicans saying not to get vaccinated.


and again, what the heck is going on with blacks? why are their vaccination rates so low?

this is very simple. if you think trump is telling people
not to get vaccinated, just show a video of him saying that?

by the time trump got booted, a million people a day were getting vaccinated.
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Trump: “it’s a great vaccine, and it’s safe, and it’s something that works.”
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i think he’s not on top. but you guys are all still obsessed with him. he was on top when vaccines rolled out.

you insulted me
for not knowing that republicans at the top are bashing vaccines,,but couldn’t name
anyone if anyone influence who’s doing so.

because there aren’t a large number of really influential republicans saying not to get vaccinated.


and again, what the heck is going on with blacks? why are their vaccination rates so low?

this is very simple. if you think trump is telling people
not to get vaccinated, just show a video of him saying that?

by the time trump got booted, a million people a day were getting vaccinated.
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No Jim you tell me why Trump strongholds are dying at three times the rate, you dodge by redirecting but right back at you buddy. The messaging they have heard is the reason.

No Jim you tell me why Trump strongholds are dying at three times the rate, you dodge by redirecting but right back at you buddy. The messaging they have heard is the reason.

i have no idea. i do know, it’s not because trump is telling them not to get vaccinated. he’s not saying that.

why are blacks not getting vaccinated?

i don’t know who these millions of people are listening to. neither do you. but yet you’re claiming you do know, and claiming it’s republicans at the top. it’s not. if it was, i’d admit it, and you should
know that.
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No Jim you tell me why Trump strongholds are dying at three times the rate, you dodge by redirecting but right back at you buddy. The messaging they have heard is the reason.

im not dodging. I’m saying “i don’t know.”. i haven’t seen anyone i could sister influential ( either among republicans or
among blacks) saying not to get vaccinated.

you don’t know either.
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i have no idea. i do know, it’s not because trump is telling them not to get vaccinated. he’s not saying that.

why are blacks not getting vaccinated?

i don’t know who these millions of people are listening to. neither do you. but yet you’re claiming you do know, and claiming it’s republicans at the top. it’s not. if it was, i’d admit it, and you should
know that.
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You can’t seriously believe right wing media has been pro vaccine from day one until today, really with a straight face? What is the alternative, all Trump strongholds were always anti vaccine anything?

GS it would make sense to
assume unvaccinated republicans are listening to a republican who opposes the vaccine.

Seems identically sensible to assume
blacks are doing the same, listening to an influential black who is saying don’t get vaccinated.

but i don’t see anyone if much influence telling people not to get vaccinated. i can’t help but notice that despite your insistence, yiu don’t seem
to be aware of
any either.

it doesn’t make any sense to not get vaccinated. i have no idea what people
Are thinking.
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On that we can agree, get vaccinated or be stupid, freedom of choice.

On that we can agree, get vaccinated or be stupid, freedom of choice.

agreed. it’s beyond stupid. good night.
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all that bluster..he still didn't name anyone...:laugha:

amazing how many republican trump supporters in those trump counties in europe influenced by anti-vaxx celebrities on FOX are protesting the mandates there

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/protest-against-coronavirus-restrictions-turns-violent-brussels-2021-12-05/

all that bluster..he still didn't name anyone...:laugha:

amazing how many republican trump supporters in those trump counties in europe influenced by anti-vaxx celebrities on FOX are protesting the mandates there

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/protest-against-coronavirus-restrictions-turns-violent-brussels-2021-12-05/

there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated. there just isn’t.

but there are still a lot of unvaccinated republicans. Too many.
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but there are still a lot of unvaccinated people...

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fixed it...

hey...virtually nobody left to vaccinate in Portugal a couple of months ago...the vaccination pride of the world....

is now reimposing restrictions due to a new surge

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate
https://www.nytimes.com › World › Europe
Oct 1, 2021 — Portugal is among the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, who led the campaign, said there was a .....

Portugal reimposes rules as COVID-19 cases rise | Reutershttps://www.reuters.com › world › europe › portugal-reim...
Nov 25, 2021 — LISBON, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Portugal, which has one of the world's highest rates of vaccination against COVID-19, announced it would reimpose...

You can’t seriously believe right wing media has been pro vaccine from day one until today, really with a straight face? What is the alternative, all Trump strongholds were always anti vaccine anything?

you still aren’t naming names, which tells me you aren’t aware of
anyone either.

i’m sure there were individuals
in the media who were skeptical, especially at first. not today.

it’s also extremely telling, that neither you nor wayne will go anywhere near the fact that blacks also have very low vaccination rates. i guess you know you can’t make it a political win for you, so you just pretend it’s not a fact.

better to process all the facts, not just the ones that provide political capital.
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Maybe you can explain then why Trump voting strong holds are dying at three time the rate



I didn't know that there was a box that gets checked on a death certificate...republican/democrat

there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated. there just isn’t.

but there are still a lot of unvaccinated republicans. Too many.
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Wow you are completely detached from reality.. you convince yourself Abrams insist the election was stolen , yet she clearly conceded who won and now you suggest no conservatives of real influence every said don’t get vaccinated

Seems you are out of touch where conservatives get their info and whom they consider influential

Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, had released a song called Vaxman, an anti-Covid vaccination ditty based on the Beatles track Taxman.

Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether the vaccine could be a “form of government control of the people”.

All four men died in August of coronavirus. A fifth conservative radio host, Bob Enyart, died on 13 September, weeks after he told his listeners to boycott vaccines that were “immorally developed”.



Jim Jordan says 'real America is done with Covid.

Trump's White House doctor calls omicron a midterm elections trick
“Here comes the MEV - the Midterm Election Variant!” Ronny Jackson tweeted Saturday.



Seems Jim and Scott don’t do many internet searches

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/07/28/here-are-the-republicans-most-likely-to-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine-poll-finds/


Republicans have consistently told pollsters they’re not planning to be vaccinated —


Tucker Members and staffers would be required to get a shot that the CDC told us today doesn’t work very well and, by the way, whose long-term effects cannot be known.” (The CDC did not say this.)

Carlson’s Facebook followers commented eagerly on the video clip, spreading unfounded fears about vaccination among themselves. “Completely disappointed in our government, don’t believe a word they speak! Will not get the shot!” one person wrote. Together, Carlson and his viewers are a placenta and embryo, gestating dangerous ideas and keeping the pandemic alive.

Republican senator was booed and catcalled when he told a party audience in South Carolina to think about getting a vaccine against Covid-19.

It was Lindsey Graham

Then you have ivermectin

Fox News host Laura Ingraham, who pitched the drug long before many in conservative media or even on Fox itself joined her.
On Dec. 1, Ingraham welcomed a doctor who had advised Trump and claimed social distancing and quarantining don’t work

Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) hosted a controversial hearing featuring, among his witnesses, two doctors who advocated for ivermectin. Johnson claimed at the hearing that the information his witnesses provided was being censored on social media.
That was kibble for conservative media. The next day, Ingraham floated a conspiracy theory that rears its head to this day: the idea that drugs like ivermectin are being suppressed as coronavirus treatments because they are too cheap — or even that they would jeopardize the emergency approvals of the vaccines.


NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

Statistics don’t lie

Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans

There are examples after examples of why Republicans won’t get vaccinated..

59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican⁠

These are the same core supporters who are more than likely to be against vaccines… and it’s not based in any factual reality..


Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans ( some whom are actually black or have a PHD or both). In an effort to defend a party that no longer exist as it once did

So here’s a question to anyone

If there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated.

Then who what or where is this moment rooted ?


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Rep. Devin Nunes is resigning from Congress to be CEO of Trump's new media company

Integrity clearly not a job requirement
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Wow you are completely detached from reality.. you convince yourself Abrams insist the election was stolen , yet she clearly conceded who won and now you suggest no conservatives of real influence every said don’t get vaccinated

Seems you are out of touch where conservatives get their info and whom they consider influential

Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, had released a song called Vaxman, an anti-Covid vaccination ditty based on the Beatles track Taxman.

Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether the vaccine could be a “form of government control of the people”.

All four men died in August of coronavirus. A fifth conservative radio host, Bob Enyart, died on 13 September, weeks after he told his listeners to boycott vaccines that were “immorally developed”.



Jim Jordan says 'real America is done with Covid.

Trump's White House doctor calls omicron a midterm elections trick
“Here comes the MEV - the Midterm Election Variant!” Ronny Jackson tweeted Saturday.



Seems Jim and Scott don’t do many internet searches

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/07/28/here-are-the-republicans-most-likely-to-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine-poll-finds/


Republicans have consistently told pollsters they’re not planning to be vaccinated —


Tucker Members and staffers would be required to get a shot that the CDC told us today doesn’t work very well and, by the way, whose long-term effects cannot be known.” (The CDC did not say this.)

Carlson’s Facebook followers commented eagerly on the video clip, spreading unfounded fears about vaccination among themselves. “Completely disappointed in our government, don’t believe a word they speak! Will not get the shot!” one person wrote. Together, Carlson and his viewers are a placenta and embryo, gestating dangerous ideas and keeping the pandemic alive.

Republican senator was booed and catcalled when he told a party audience in South Carolina to think about getting a vaccine against Covid-19.

It was Lindsey Graham

Then you have ivermectin

Fox News host Laura Ingraham, who pitched the drug long before many in conservative media or even on Fox itself joined her.
On Dec. 1, Ingraham welcomed a doctor who had advised Trump and claimed social distancing and quarantining don’t work

Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) hosted a controversial hearing featuring, among his witnesses, two doctors who advocated for ivermectin. Johnson claimed at the hearing that the information his witnesses provided was being censored on social media.
That was kibble for conservative media. The next day, Ingraham floated a conspiracy theory that rears its head to this day: the idea that drugs like ivermectin are being suppressed as coronavirus treatments because they are too cheap — or even that they would jeopardize the emergency approvals of the vaccines.


NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

Statistics don’t lie

Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans

There are examples after examples of why Republicans won’t get vaccinated..

59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican⁠

These are the same core supporters who are more than likely to be against vaccines… and it’s not based in any factual reality..


Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans ( some whom are actually black or have a PHD or both). In an effort to defend a party that no longer exist as it once did

So here’s a question to anyone

If there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated.

Then who what or where is this moment rooted ?


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Add Scott and Trumps idiot son in a recent conference states republicans just want to be left alone. I have no doubt the percentage of republicans believing Trump won are closely aligned with vaccine hesitancy.
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Rep. Devin Nunes is resigning from Congress to be CEO of Trump's new media company

Integrity clearly not a job requirement
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What catchy name will he use, maybe the “truth network”, if we have learned anything, Trump is very good at setting up a new money grab.
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Wow you are completely detached from reality.. you convince yourself Abrams insist the election was stolen , yet she clearly conceded who won and now you suggest no conservatives of real influence every said don’t get vaccinated

Seems you are out of touch where conservatives get their info and whom they consider influential

Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, had released a song called Vaxman, an anti-Covid vaccination ditty based on the Beatles track Taxman.

Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether the vaccine could be a “form of government control of the people”.

All four men died in August of coronavirus. A fifth conservative radio host, Bob Enyart, died on 13 September, weeks after he told his listeners to boycott vaccines that were “immorally developed”.



Jim Jordan says 'real America is done with Covid.

Trump's White House doctor calls omicron a midterm elections trick
“Here comes the MEV - the Midterm Election Variant!” Ronny Jackson tweeted Saturday.



Seems Jim and Scott don’t do many internet searches

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/07/28/here-are-the-republicans-most-likely-to-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine-poll-finds/


Republicans have consistently told pollsters they’re not planning to be vaccinated —


Tucker Members and staffers would be required to get a shot that the CDC told us today doesn’t work very well and, by the way, whose long-term effects cannot be known.” (The CDC did not say this.)

Carlson’s Facebook followers commented eagerly on the video clip, spreading unfounded fears about vaccination among themselves. “Completely disappointed in our government, don’t believe a word they speak! Will not get the shot!” one person wrote. Together, Carlson and his viewers are a placenta and embryo, gestating dangerous ideas and keeping the pandemic alive.

Republican senator was booed and catcalled when he told a party audience in South Carolina to think about getting a vaccine against Covid-19.

It was Lindsey Graham

Then you have ivermectin

Fox News host Laura Ingraham, who pitched the drug long before many in conservative media or even on Fox itself joined her.
On Dec. 1, Ingraham welcomed a doctor who had advised Trump and claimed social distancing and quarantining don’t work

Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) hosted a controversial hearing featuring, among his witnesses, two doctors who advocated for ivermectin. Johnson claimed at the hearing that the information his witnesses provided was being censored on social media.
That was kibble for conservative media. The next day, Ingraham floated a conspiracy theory that rears its head to this day: the idea that drugs like ivermectin are being suppressed as coronavirus treatments because they are too cheap — or even that they would jeopardize the emergency approvals of the vaccines.


NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.

Statistics don’t lie

Inside the growing alliance between anti-vaccine activists and pro-Trump Republicans

There are examples after examples of why Republicans won’t get vaccinated..

59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican⁠

These are the same core supporters who are more than likely to be against vaccines… and it’s not based in any factual reality..


Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans ( some whom are actually black or have a PHD or both). In an effort to defend a party that no longer exist as it once did

So here’s a question to anyone

If there isn’t anyone of real influence on the right telling people
not to get vaccinated.

Then who what or where is this moment rooted ?


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"Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans "

If blacks have the very lowest vaccination rate, I wonder why that's not an issue for you? Why don't you care about that?

I sit because you only care about blacks when there's political benefit to caring?

As I said, it's very very telling that none of you will touch that with a ten foot pole.

You go on and on and on about how stupid it is for large Republicans to not be vaccinated (and I agree with that). But when I bring up similarly low vaccination rates among a group that your side claims to care bout, you can't change the subject fast enough.

"Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host"

Neither you nor I have ever heard of him. What happened to the podcaster birch tree?

"Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether "

Neither you nor I have ever heard of them.

WDMSO, you want to prove that there are nutjobs out there, I concede that. But they have no influence. And they exist on both sides.

Who are blacks listening to? I'm sincerely curious. You are terrified of discussing that.

"Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans "

If blacks have the very lowest vaccination rate, I wonder why that's not an issue for you? Why don't you care about that?

I sit because you only care about blacks when there's political benefit to caring?

As I said, it's very very telling that none of you will touch that with a ten foot pole.

You go on and on and on about how stupid it is for large Republicans to not be vaccinated (and I agree with that). But when I bring up similarly low vaccination rates among a group that your side claims to care bout, you can't change the subject fast enough.

"Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host"

Neither you nor I have ever heard of him. What happened to the podcaster birch tree?

"Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether "

Neither you nor I have ever heard of them.

WDMSO, you want to prove that there are nutjobs out there, I concede that. But they have no influence. And they exist on both sides.

Who are blacks listening to? I'm sincerely curious. You are terrified of discussing that.

Jim unless your in the group of anti vaccination we all should be concerned about any population that refuses to get vaccinated. Unlike the far right Trump still is president republicans who won’t get the shot due to miss information, do you think the black experience with government and testing might have something to do with it. Put yourself in an older black mans shoes with the horrific history his eyes have witnessed and listen to the stories of what has happened to his community at the hands of the government and maybe you have your answer. Or they are just dumb arse republicans.
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Wow you are completely detached from reality..

Seems you are out of touch where conservatives get their info

Phil Valentine,

Marc Bernier,

#^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel,

Jimmy DeYoung



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whotf??????

Jim unless your in the group of

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I knew it couldn't last....

Statistics don’t lie




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From the guy who says the reason why 64% of blacks aren't vaccinated, is because they're republicans. You're saying almost two-thirds of blacks are republicans.

You also are denying that Stacey Abrams said her election was stolen, after I posted vide of her saying precisely that.

And you accuse others of willfully ignoring truth.

do you think the black experience with government and testing might have something to do with it. Put yourself in an older black mans shoes with the horrific history his eyes have witnessed and listen to the stories of what has happened to his community at the hands of the government and maybe you have your answer. Or they are just dumb arse republicans.
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I have no idea. I just wish their numbers were higher.

But you offered a realistic, logical reason that might be behind it.

"Or they are just dumb arse republicans"

or that.

was it the republicans or the democrats, who held andrew cuomo up as the “gold standard” of managing covid, when he forced nursing homes to admit residents who tested positive for a disease which we all knew would target the elderly?

the government, all government on both sides, performed poorly with covid.

Jim unless your in the group of anti vaccination we all should be concerned about any population that refuses to get vaccinated.

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I'm vaccinated, I don't care if someone else is vaccinated or not, I work with people who aren't vaccinated, I don't feel threatened by them, I don't give them dirty looks or criticize them either to their faces or behind their backs because they aren't vaccinated, I don't think they are stupid, they are actually very smart and informed and have made a personal choice...

but carry on vax nazi....

Viruses don’t care about your color, politics or really anything at all.
All they want is a host.
They mutate as a matter of course, rates depending on the particular virus.
The more virus, the better the odds of mutation.
So unfortunately while I could just say T&P for the unvaccinated, they do by some amount endanger the rest of us.
More than lots of other things people are claiming they are afraid of
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Viruses don’t care about your color, politics or really anything at all.
All they want is a host.
They mutate as a matter of course, rates depending on the particular virus.
The more virus, the better the odds of mutation.
So unfortunately while I could just say T&P for the unvaccinated, they do by some amount endanger the rest of us.
More than lots of other things people are claiming they are afraid of
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seems like all of the omicron is riding into the country on fully vaccinated hosts...

these people are a danger to us all...

"Yet Jim’s introduced Race with what about blacks
When honestly the topic is about Republicans "

If blacks have the very lowest vaccination rate, I wonder why that's not an issue for you? Why don't you care about that?

topic is about Republicans "


I sit because you only care about blacks when there's political benefit to caring? AGAIN NOT THE TOPIC

As I said, it's very very telling that none of you will touch that with a ten foot pole. AGAIN NOT THE TOPIC JUST YOU TRYING TO DEFLECT FROM THE TOPIC

You go on and on and on about how stupid it is for large Republicans to not be vaccinated (and I agree with that). But when I bring up similarly low vaccination rates among a group that your side claims to care bout, you can't change the subject fast enough.

AGAIN NOT THE TOPIC BUT KEEP TRYING

"Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host"

Neither you nor I have ever heard of him. What happened to the podcaster birch tree?

"Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. #^&#^&#^&#^& Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether "

Neither you nor I have ever heard of them.

SO BECAUSE YOU NEVER HEARD OF THEM THEY ARE NOT INFLUENTIAL REPUBLICANS ? IS THAT YOUR SUGGESTION


WDMSO, you want to prove that there are nutjobs out there, I concede that. But they have no influence. And they exist on both sides.

AGAIN THE BOTH SIDES ARGUMENT

Who are blacks listening to? I'm sincerely curious. You are terrified of discussing that.

AND AGAIN NOT THE TOPIC BUT YOU KEEP TRYING

seems like all of the omicron is riding into the country on fully vaccinated hosts...

these people are a danger to us all...

You’re spreading misinformation
While you find it comical, it’s actually the opposite
Omicron was discovered by SA immunologists several weeks ago and both vaccinated and unvaccinated have been diagnosed as positive.
The data is not complete enough yet to determine the efficacy of the various vaccines.
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AND AGAIN NOT THE TOPIC BUT YOU KEEP TRYING


all you can say is “not the topic”.

wdmso: republicans have low vaccination rates, they are stupid and they are the problem.

jim: blacks have very low vaccination rates.

wdmso: (sticks fingers in his ears), “that’s not the topic!!! la la la la la!!!”

you can only admit, process, and discuss topics which serve your agenda.

“Stacey Abrams never said her election was stolen. And besides, even if she did say it, she’s right it was stolen, and you’re a racist for questioning her. And no one in Georgia believes it was stolen, even though Abrams and I both believe it. “. Your words Wayne.

The first topic for you, should be electric shock therapy.
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From the guy who says the reason why 64% of blacks aren't vaccinated, JIM PLEASE POST SOME EVIDENCE FOR YOUR CLAIM YOUR MAKING THINGS UP AGAIN is because they're republicans. You're saying almost two-thirds of blacks are republicans.

You also are denying that Stacey Abrams said her election was stolen, after I posted vide of her saying precisely that.

AGAIN YOU PASS OVER THE CONTEX OF THE STATEMENT AND HER CONCEDING THAT KEMP WON , SO AS TO SUGGEST SHES THE SAME AS TRUMP

And you accuse others of willfully ignoring truth.

NO JIM YOU TRY TO MANUFACTURE THE TRUTH WITH A SINGLE SOUND BYTE THATS WHAT INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST LOOKS LIKE :claps:

all you can say is “not the topic”.

wdmso: republicans have low vaccination rates, they are stupid and they are the problem.

jim: blacks have very low vaccination rates.

wdmso: (sticks fingers in his ears), “that’s not the topic!!! la la la la la!!!”

you can only admit, process, and discuss topics which serve your agenda.

“Stacey Abrams never said her election was stolen. And besides, even if she did say it, she’s right it was stolen, and you’re a racist for questioning her. And no one in Georgia believes it was stolen, even though Abrams and I both believe it. “. Your words Wayne.

The first topic for you, should be electric shock therapy.
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THE TOPIC IS REPUBLICAN LOVE AFFAIR WITH MISINFORMATION

JIMS RESPONSE WHAT LOVE AFFAIR WITH MISINFORMATION AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE BLACKS

THE TOPIC IS REPUBLICAN LOVE AFFAIR WITH MISINFORMATION

JIMS RESPONSE WHAT LOVE AFFAIR WITH MISINFORMATION AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE BLACKS

with the vaccines, republicans have a serious issue with truth, you’re right.

but blacks appear to have the same issue. you can’t agree with that ( even though you said statistics don’t lie 5 minutes ago), because it doesn’t help you politically.

Using capital letters, doesn’t make up for having a losing position.

you’re saying that i’m in denial that the gop has stupidly low vaccination rates. i never denied that, never came close to denying that, i agree with you 100%. again i’m not sure you know how to read.

you’re responding to an argument that i’m not making.
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You’re spreading misinformation
While you find it comical, it’s actually the opposite
Omicron was discovered by SA immunologists several weeks ago and both vaccinated and unvaccinated have been diagnosed as positive.
The data is not complete enough yet to determine the efficacy of the various vaccines.
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that's not what I wrote idiot ;)

with the vaccines, republicans have a serious issue with truth, you’re right.

but blacks appear to have the same issue. you can’t agree with that ( even though you said statistics don’t lie 5 minutes ago), because it doesn’t help you politically.

Using capital letters, doesn’t make up for having a losing position.

you’re saying that i’m in denial that the gop has stupidly low vaccination rates. i never denied that, never came close to denying that, i agree with you 100%. again i’m not sure you know how to read.

you’re responding to an argument that i’m not making.
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Caps were on I was just to lazy to change them.. sorry
your not making any argument that’s obvious . Hence the suggestion your denial of the Topic

Republicans have a problem with the Truth ? Took how many pages to make that statement

FYI blacks have low vaccines rates but for complete different reasons this is where we and the data differ
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I'm vaccinated, I don't care if someone else is vaccinated or not, I work with people who aren't vaccinated, I don't feel threatened by them, I don't give them dirty looks or criticize them either to their faces or behind their backs because they aren't vaccinated, I don't think they are stupid, they are actually very smart and informed and have made a personal choice...

but carry on vax nazi....

Viruses don’t care about your color, politics or really anything at all.
All they want is a host.
They mutate as a matter of course, rates depending on the particular virus.
The more virus, the better the odds of mutation.
So unfortunately while I could just say T&P for the unvaccinated, they do by some amount endanger the rest of us.
More than lots of other things people are claiming they are afraid of
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seems like all of the omicron is riding into the country on fully vaccinated hosts...

these people are a danger to us all...

You’re spreading misinformation
While you find it comical, it’s actually the opposite
Omicron was discovered by SA immunologists several weeks ago and both vaccinated and unvaccinated have been diagnosed as positive.
The data is not complete enough yet to determine the efficacy of the various vaccines.
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that's not what I wrote idiot ;)

It's what you wrote

It's what you wrote

the vaccinated are carrying and distributing the various variants...that makes them a danger to all of us ....what should we do with these people???

I'm not afraid...you should be...

if you read through the stories of states where omicron has show up, in most cases it appears to have been transported there by fully vaccinated hosts that had travelled

the vaccinated are carrying and distributing the various variants...that makes them a danger to all of us ....what should we do with these people???

I'm not afraid...you should be...

if you read through the stories of states where omicron has show up, in most cases it appears to have been transported there by fully vaccinated hosts that had travelled

The trouble is your narrative is based on "stories"

The trouble is your narrative is based on "stories"

if it was being transported there by the unvaccinated I'm sure they would be trumpeting that

if it was being transported there by the unvaccinated I'm sure they would be trumpeting that

Ok, another Stable Genius
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damn trumplicans are out of control in europe again..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ydT5pv3rlI

Is this what you’re referring to?

The United States is imposing sanctions on 16 individuals and 24 entities connected to transnational organized crime activities in Europe and the Western Hemisphere. It is a national security priority to combat corruption, which facilitates transnational organized crime.
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Trump 30 Top Failures:

1.Trump failed Insurrection
2.Trump promised infrastructure deal{ never happened}
3.Trump Border Wall {never fully built & Mexico never paid}
4.Trump promised troop pullout from Afghanistan {never happened}
5.Trump COVID response
6.Trump entire Presidency {ranks 41 out of 44}
7.Trump Marriages & children
8.Trump BLOG {lasted 29 days!}
9.Trump’s Toupee
10. Trump Foundation
11. Trump Airlines
12. Trump Cologne
13. Trump Travel
14. Trump TWITTER and FACEBOOK accounts
15. Trump Vodka
16. Trump Mortgage
17. Trump: The Game
18. Trump Magazine
19. Trump University
20. Trump Ice
21. The New Jersey Generals
22. Tour de Trump
23. Trump Network
24. Trumped!
25. Trump Taj Mahal
26. Trump’s Castle
27. Trump Plaza Casinos
28. Trump Plaza Hotel
29. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
30.Trump Entertainment Resorts

That about sums it up

Trump 30 Top Failures:

1.Trump failed Insurrection
2.Trump promised infrastructure deal{ never happened}
3.Trump Border Wall {never fully built & Mexico never paid}
4.Trump promised troop pullout from Afghanistan {never happened}
5.Trump COVID response
6.Trump entire Presidency {ranks 41 out of 44}
7.Trump Marriages & children
8.Trump BLOG {lasted 29 days!}
9.Trump’s Toupee
10. Trump Foundation
11. Trump Airlines
12. Trump Cologne
13. Trump Travel
14. Trump TWITTER and FACEBOOK accounts
15. Trump Vodka
16. Trump Mortgage
17. Trump: The Game
18. Trump Magazine
19. Trump University
20. Trump Ice
21. The New Jersey Generals
22. Tour de Trump
23. Trump Network
24. Trumped!
25. Trump Taj Mahal
26. Trump’s Castle
27. Trump Plaza Casinos
28. Trump Plaza Hotel
29. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
30.Trump Entertainment Resorts

That about sums it up

you trumps covid response failed.

ok.

biden inherited an infastructure where a million people a day were getting vaccinated. yet 2021 deaths, before december 1, were already higher than 2020. Deaths are increasing.

so how would you say biden’s covid response isn’t a failure? more deaths isn’t worse than fewer deaths?
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(CNN)Joe Biden's presidential campaign was built on two pillars -- "I'm going to shut down the virus" and I am not Donald Trump. He is failing on both promises, as Covid rages and Biden's behavior more and more mirrors his predecessor's.

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

(CNN)Joe Biden's presidential campaign was built on two pillars -- "I'm going to shut down the virus" and I am not Donald Trump. He is failing on both promises, as Covid rages and Biden's behavior more and more mirrors his predecessor's.

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Seem. You lack the understanding of the difference between trying to shut down a virus and refusing to admit their was a virus .. and please how is his behavior mirrored Trumps. This should be fascinating
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Former US President Donald Trump has launched a scathing attack on his once-close ally, ex-Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu, accusing him of disloyalty.


Still waiting on Biden to accuse a former head of state of disloyalty to a nation that’s not his own?
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Mr Trump said he was furious at Mr Netanyahu for the way he congratulated Joe Biden on his election victory, using an expletive towards him.

Such a shinning example of a former US President classy as his supporters
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Mr Trump said he was furious at Mr Netanyahu for the way he congratulated Joe Biden on his election victory, using an expletive towards him.

Such a shinning example of a former US President classy as his supporters
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more evidence that trump is a jerk, we agree.

now, can we move on? yiu said tromps covid response was a failure. fine. but more americans are dying under biden in 2021, than died in 2020, and biden inherited an infastructure of testing and vaccines. trump had to start from scratch.

given the advantages biden had ( plus trump had to deal with a NY governor who acted as if his mission was to kill everyone in nursing homes), how is Biden’s covid response not also a “failure”?

isnt more deaths, a bigger failure than fewer deaths?

have fun with that.
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you trumps covid response failed.

ok.

biden inherited an infastructure where a million people a day were getting vaccinated. yet 2021 deaths, before december 1, were already higher than 2020. Deaths are increasing.

so how would you say biden’s covid response isn’t a failure? more deaths isn’t worse than fewer deaths?
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30 failures and you praise the one thing as POTUS he did right he spent money on a vaccine? But was against every other mitigation approach under the sun.., and even his followers refuse to take. Because joe Biden has asked them to.. big picture Jim big picture

Ps unvaccinated ever hear of them? So It’s Biden’s fault people are unvaccinated. And dying Love the logic

Unvaccinated people are about 29 times more likely to be hospitalized with Covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated, according to a CDC study released Tuesday.
The new study also found that unvaccinated people were nearly five times more likely to be infected with Covid than vaccinated people.Imagine that

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more evidence that trump is a jerk, we agree.

now, can we move on? yiu said tromps covid response was a failure. fine. but more americans are dying under biden in 2021, than died in 2020, and biden inherited an infastructure of testing and vaccines. trump had to start from scratch.

given the advantages biden had ( plus trump had to deal with a NY governor who acted as if his mission was to kill everyone in nursing homes), how is Biden’s covid response not also a “failure”?

isnt more deaths, a bigger failure than fewer deaths?

have fun with that.
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Jim now your using. Calendar dates
And again regurgitation right wing talking points

Only you would show Trump starting at zero and then handing Biden a country overflowing with virus and deaths already in the pipeline and suggest Trump did a better Job.. lol

The spread of the highly contagious Delta variant and low vaccination rates in some communities were important factors, But lower-than-expected immunization rates as well as fatigue with precautionary measures like masks allowed the highly contagious Delta variant to spread, largely among the unvaccinated, epidemiologists say.

But your such an honest broker of information… you’ll ignore the why
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as POTUS he did right he spent money on a vaccine.. big picture Jim big picture


You say that he refused to admit there was a virus, and then you say he spent big money on a vaccine . . . is that some novel version of a big picture?

Big picture, if the President is responsible for stopping the virus, is that Biden is failing.

Jim now your using. Calendar dates
And again regurgitation right wing talking points

Only you would show Trump starting at zero and then handing Biden a country overflowing with virus and deaths already in the pipeline and suggest Trump did a better Job.. lol

The spread of the highly contagious Delta variant and low vaccination rates in some communities were important factors, But lower-than-expected immunization rates as well as fatigue with precautionary measures like masks allowed the highly contagious Delta variant to spread, largely among the unvaccinated, epidemiologists say.

But your such an honest broker of information… you’ll ignore the why
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“jim now you’re using calendar dates…”

so it’s inappropriate to judge trump on what happened during his term, and do the same with biden

we should
all do what you do, which is blame trump for everything bad that happened during his 4 years, and ignore the bad results when the potus is a democrat.

i mean, that’s just so consistent and rational!

if using deaths isn’t a good way to measure covid response, how would you do it? what statistic would you use?

“lower than expected immunization rates”…

according to whom?
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Seem. You lack the understanding of the difference between trying to shut down a virus and refusing to admit their was a virus .. and please how is his behavior mirrored Trumps. This should be fascinating
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that was on CNN :huh:

Mr Trump said he was furious at Mr Netanyahu for the way he congratulated Joe Biden on his election victory, using an expletive towards him.

Such a shinning example of a former US President classy as his supporters
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what does this have to do with biden being a lousy president?

“jim now you’re using calendar dates…”

so it’s inappropriate to judge trump on what happened during his term, and do the same with biden

we should
all do what you do, which is blame trump for everything bad that happened during his 4 years, and ignore the bad results when the potus is a democrat.

i mean, that’s just so consistent and rational!

if using deaths isn’t a good way to measure covid response, how would you do it? what statistic would you use?

“lower than expected immunization rates”…

according to whom?
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So Trump gets a boat no holes or dents it starts leaking worse during his ownership and he does nothing to slow the flow ...then he loses the election and gives biden a boat sinking full of water and full of holes due to the previous owners neglect (covid) and on his way out Door presents Biden with a half gallon milk jug (vaccine) and says start bailing .. this should fix it.... so Biden Starts with a boat full of holes and filled with water one bailer nothing to plug the holes and Jim thinks as usual the Both have started from the same spot :kewl:

what does this have to do with biden being a lousy president?

still waiting on your reasons he's a lousy POTUS compared to Trump you suggested they were the same

that was on CNN :huh:

so your example is the stay in mexico 1 issues aka court ordered issue

So Trump gets a boat no holes or dents it starts leaking worse during his ownership and he does nothing to slow the flow ...then he loses the election and gives biden a boat sinking full of water and full of holes due to the previous owners neglect (covid) and on his way out Door presents Biden with a half gallon milk jug (vaccine) and says start bailing .. this should fix it.... so Biden Starts with a boat full of holes and filled with water one bailer nothing to plug the holes and Jim thinks as usual the Both have started from the same spot :kewl:

covid came out of nowhere on trump’s watch, there was no way to see it coming.

with biden, i don’t know how he could have expected or prepared for variants.

i’m not overly impressed by how either one led this.

you’re the one who says trump failed but biden didn’t. We notice you’ve yet to provide a meaningful statistic that would allow any rational
person to conclude that biden is doing better.

then there’s burdens vaccine mandates that courts are striking down all over. if that were trump guys all be complaining that he was violating the constitution like the authoritarian you say he was.


“gives biden a boat sinking full of water.”

he gave biden a system with widespread rapid testing and a million people a day getting vaccinated.

you cannot be rational.
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“jim now you’re using calendar dates…”


if using deaths isn’t a good way to measure covid response, how would you do it? what statistic would you use?

“lower than expected immunization rates”…

according to whom? not you thats for sure
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Yes Jim lets use deaths and not surprising From Jan. 15, 2021 to Oct. 1, 2021, unvaccinated people were 40 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people.

DEATH RATE FROM TEXAS

Rate per 100,000 in
Unvaccinated People was 463.7

Rate per 100,000 in Fully
Vaccinated 11.6

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/cases-and-deaths-by-vaccination-status-11082021.pdf

so your example is the stay in mexico 1 issues aka court ordered issue

Wtf are you taking about?
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still waiting on your reasons he's a lousy POTUS compared to Trump you suggested they were the same

I didn’t say trump wasn’t just pointed out that someone on CNN said Biden basically sucks too despite promises and claims to be the anti-trump….if Biden loses CNN that would be pretty bad for the regime. He’s already lost Kamala
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covid came out of nowhere on trump’s watch, there was no way to see it coming.

with biden, i don’t know how he could have expected or prepared for variants.

i’m not overly impressed by how either one led this.

you’re the one who says trump failed but biden didn’t. We notice you’ve yet to provide a meaningful statistic that would allow any rational
person to conclude that biden is doing better.

then there’s burdens vaccine mandates that courts are striking down all over. if that were trump guys all be complaining that he was violating the constitution like the authoritarian you say he was.


“gives biden a boat sinking full of water.”

he gave biden a system with widespread rapid testing and a million people a day getting vaccinated.

you cannot be rational.
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OK Mr Rational and this only deals with the first of the baloney you posted. As far as testing goes the Trump administration botched the development and implementation of Covid testing, the Biden administration has done better but not much

“CAME OUT of nowhere,” President Trump said March 6 of the coronavirus pandemic. “I just think this is something . . . that you can never really think is going to happen.” A few weeks later, he added, “I would view it as something that just surprised the whole world.” Mr. Trump also said, “Nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion.”
Of course, no one can pinpoint the exact moment that lightning will strike. But a global pandemic? Experts have predicted it, warned about the preparedness gaps and urged action. Again and again and again.


Just look at 2019.
In January, the U.S. intelligence community issued its annual global threat assessment. It declared, “We assess that the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support. . . . The growing proximity of humans and animals has increased the risk of disease transmission. The number of outbreaks has increased in part because pathogens originally found in animals have spread to human populations.”


In September, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security issued a report titled “Preparedness for a High-Impact Respiratory Pathogen Pandemic.” The report found that if such a pathogen emerged, “it would likely have significant public health, economic, social, and political consequences. . . . The combined possibilities of short incubation periods and asymptomatic spread can result in very small windows for interrupting transmission, making such an outbreak difficult to contain.” The report pointed to “large national and international readiness gaps.”




In October, the Nuclear Threat Initiative, working with the Johns Hopkins center and the Economist Intelligence Unit, published its latest Global Health Security Index, examining open-source information about the state of health security across 195 nations, and scoring them. The report warned, “No country is fully prepared for epidemics or pandemics, and every country has important gaps to address.” The report found that “Fewer than 5 percent of countries scored in the highest tier for their ability to rapidly respond to and mitigate the spread of an epidemic.

In November, the Center for Strategic and International Studies published a study by its Commission on Strengthening America’s Health Security. It warned, “The American people are far from safe. To the contrary, the United States remains woefully ill-prepared to respond to global health security threats. This kind of vulnerability should not be acceptable to anyone. At the extreme, it is a matter of life and death. . . . Outbreaks proliferate that can spread swiftly across the globe and become pandemics, disrupting supply chains, trade, transport, and ultimately entire societies and economies.” The report recommended: “Restore health security leadership at the White House National Security Council.”
Came out of nowhere? Not even close. The question that must be addressed in future postmortems is why all this expertise and warning was ignored.
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Yes Jim lets use deaths and not surprising From Jan. 15, 2021 to Oct. 1, 2021, unvaccinated people were 40 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people.

DEATH RATE FROM TEXAS

Rate per 100,000 in
Unvaccinated People was 463.7

Rate per 100,000 in Fully
Vaccinated 11.6

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/cases-and-deaths-by-vaccination-status-11082021.pdf

"not you that's for sure"

I've said to you ten times in the last week, ten times, that I think it's stupid to not be vaccinated.

When you know you can't respond to what I say, you just make stuff up.

I think everyone should get vaccinated.

What I was questioning, is whether or not people were expecting vaccination rates to be a lot higher than they are now.

Biden has the benefit of many more Americans being vaccinated, than Trump had. Despite this, Biden is overseeing more deaths. That makes the higher death count, more remarkable, not less so.

"DEATH RATE FROM TEXAS "

You are hysterical, and a loyal liberal lemming.

When the national numbers are bad under Trump, you say it's his fault (Gov Cuomo is totally blameless).

When national numbers are worse under Biden, you blame republican governors.

According to you, bad results are a federal issue when Trump is president, bad results are a state's fault when Biden is president.

Do you listen to yourself?

liberal=good, conservative=bad, every time, zero exceptions.

I didn’t say trump wasn’t just pointed out that someone on CNN said Biden basically sucks too despite promises and claims to be the anti-trump….if Biden loses CNN that would be pretty bad for the regime. He’s already lost Kamala
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Even the jerks on The View are bashing Biden for breaking promises.

OK Mr Rational and this only deals with the first of the baloney you posted. As far as testing goes the Trump administration botched the development and implementation of Covid testing, the Biden administration has done better but not much

“CAME OUT of nowhere,” President Trump said March 6 of the coronavirus pandemic. “I just think this is something . . . that you can never really think is going to happen.” A few weeks later, he added, “I would view it as something that just surprised the whole world.” Mr. Trump also said, “Nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion.”
Of course, no one can pinpoint the exact moment that lightning will strike. But a global pandemic? Experts have predicted it, warned about the preparedness gaps and urged action. Again and again and again.


Just look at 2019.
In January, the U.S. intelligence community issued its annual global threat assessment. It declared, “We assess that the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support. . . . The growing proximity of humans and animals has increased the risk of disease transmission. The number of outbreaks has increased in part because pathogens originally found in animals have spread to human populations.”


In September, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security issued a report titled “Preparedness for a High-Impact Respiratory Pathogen Pandemic.” The report found that if such a pathogen emerged, “it would likely have significant public health, economic, social, and political consequences. . . . The combined possibilities of short incubation periods and asymptomatic spread can result in very small windows for interrupting transmission, making such an outbreak difficult to contain.” The report pointed to “large national and international readiness gaps.”




In October, the Nuclear Threat Initiative, working with the Johns Hopkins center and the Economist Intelligence Unit, published its latest Global Health Security Index, examining open-source information about the state of health security across 195 nations, and scoring them. The report warned, “No country is fully prepared for epidemics or pandemics, and every country has important gaps to address.” The report found that “Fewer than 5 percent of countries scored in the highest tier for their ability to rapidly respond to and mitigate the spread of an epidemic.

In November, the Center for Strategic and International Studies published a study by its Commission on Strengthening America’s Health Security. It warned, “The American people are far from safe. To the contrary, the United States remains woefully ill-prepared to respond to global health security threats. This kind of vulnerability should not be acceptable to anyone. At the extreme, it is a matter of life and death. . . . Outbreaks proliferate that can spread swiftly across the globe and become pandemics, disrupting supply chains, trade, transport, and ultimately entire societies and economies.” The report recommended: “Restore health security leadership at the White House National Security Council.”
Came out of nowhere? Not even close. The question that must be addressed in future postmortems is why all this expertise and warning was ignored.
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So Trump is guilty of failing to see covid coming. But let me guess, the democrats who controlled congress at that time, are blameless. Right? The potus is omniscient. Biden sees everything coming a mile away, he saw early indications of inflation and high gas prices and responded flawlessly, which is why inflation is back to 0 and oil back to $35 a barrel.

Everyone was warning that covid was coming, and only Trump missed it, which is why covid isn't an issue anywhere but America. Let's go further, even in America, covid is only an issue in red states, the blue states were perfect in handling it.

We can do states if you would like, but as was apparent early in the pandemic, Trumps downplaying, political manipulation of the Covid response and total ignorance of the pandemic after the November election had a disastrous effect for Americans

South Korea
Deaths per 100k is 8
Vaccination 80%
USA
Deaths per 100K is 239
Vaccination 60%
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We can do states if you would like, but as was apparent early in the pandemic, Trumps downplaying, political manipulation of the Covid response and total ignorance of the pandemic after the November election had a disastrous effect for Americans

South Korea
Deaths per 100k is 8
Vaccination 80%
USA
Deaths per 100K is 239
Vaccination 60%
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our results are worse than south koreas. when does biden have responsibility for that? ever? does he even own the results for his time as potus? or does biden get a complete free pass. no matter what?

south korea doesn’t have our constitution. apples and oranges.
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yeah but Iceland......

yeah but Iceland......

on the day covid is eradicated, that will coincidentally be the day that biden starts owning the results.

like talking to a poster of Obama.
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Vermont keeps setting new records...i hope Pete is double boosted and tripled masked...

I posted this in April of 2020

How a different democracy did not wait 70 days, but acted immediately, with urgency, direction and achieved different results.

SEOUL - In late January, South Korean health officials summoned representatives from more than 20 medical companies from their lunar New Year celebrations to a conference room tucked inside Seoul’s busy train station.

One of the country’s top infectious disease officials delivered an urgent message: South Korea needed an effective test immediately to detect the novel coronavirus, then running rampant in China. He promised the companies swift regulatory approval.

Though there were only four known cases in South Korea at that point, “we were very nervous. We believed that it could develop into a pandemic,” one attendee, Lee Sang-won, an infectious diseases expert at the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told Reuters.

“We acted like an army,” he said.

A week after the Jan. 27 meeting, South Korea’s CDC approved one company’s diagnostic test. Another company soon followed. By the end of February, South Korea was making headlines around the world for its drive-through screening centers and ability to test thousands of people daily.

South Korea’s swift action stands in stark contrast to what has transpired in the United States. Seven weeks after the train station meeting, the Koreans have tested well over 290,000 people and identified over 8,000 infections. New cases are falling off: Ninety-three were reported Wednesday, down from a daily peak of 909 two weeks earlier.

The United States, whose first case was detected the same day as South Korea’s, is not even close to meeting demand for testing. About 60,000 tests have been run by public and private labs in a country of 330 million, federal officials said Tuesday.

As a result, U.S. officials don’t fully grasp how many Americans have been infected and where they are concentrated - crucial to containment efforts. While more than 7,000 U.S. cases had been identified as of Wednesday, as many as 96 million people could be infected in coming months, and 480,000 could die, according to a projection prepared for the American Hospital Association by Dr. James Lawler, an infectious disease expert at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

How the United States fell so far behind South Korea, according to infectious disease experts, clinicians and state and local officials, is a tale of many contrasts in the two nations’ public health systems: a streamlined bureaucracy versus a congested one, bold versus cautious leadership, and a sense of urgency versus a reliance on protocol.

The delayed and chaotic testing in the United States will cost lives, potentially including those of doctors and nurses, many medical experts predict. Already more than 100 people have died overall, and fears of rampant spread have led to extraordinary restrictions on social interaction, upending the U.S. economy, schools, hospitals and everyday life.

The administration of President Donald Trump was tripped up by government rules and conventions, former officials and public health experts say. Instead of drafting the private sector early on to develop tests, as South Korea did, U.S. health officials relied, as is customary, on test kits prepared by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, some of which proved faulty. Then, sticking to its time-consuming vetting procedures, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration didn’t approve tests other than the CDC’s until Feb. 29, more than five weeks after discussions with outside labs had begun.

Meanwhile, in the absence of enough kits, the CDC insisted for weeks on narrow criteria for testing, recommending it only when a person had recently been to China or other hot spots or had contact with someone known to be infected. As a result, the federal government failed to screen an untold number of Americans and missed opportunities to contain the spread, clinicians and public health experts say.

South Korea took a risk, releasing briskly vetted tests, then circling back later to spot check their effectiveness. By contrast, the United States’ FDA said it wanted to ensure, upfront, that the tests were accurate before they went out to millions of Americans.

Meanwhile, nobody in this administration can tell what the plan is beyond having a daily Trump Rally.

Now go ahead and spout the gaslighting baloney that you have bought into about how proactive this administration was regarding anything to do with Covid-19.

Because there is no path to rebuilding the American economy and protecting people from this virus at the current level of testing. And that’s why the lies about tests will be the alpha and omega of Trump’s slow, disastrous response.

Vermont keeps setting new records...i hope Pete is double boosted and tripled masked...

Apparently you haven't looked at Rhode Islands, you better stay in your closet

Simple quest Jim did Trump and Biden have the same starting point with Covid y or n

2nd question do you understand how many people were already in the Covid pipe line sick or hospitalized on Jan 6th well on Jan 10 US totals were 208,295 new daily cases. And January has surpassed December as the deadliest month of the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S. so far. in December, when over 77,400 people Died January 79,200

It makes total sense Biden takes office on the 20th and it’s his fault January 2021 the deadliest for Covid Ya ok. Then cases fall off until August then Delta shows up and hits the unvaccinated and we see a spike ,,, by then U.S. administers 386.8 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines - CDC
And yet the 1st dose of vaccine was given out Dec 14 days so clearly the administration is trying to vaccinate the country


385,348 COVID-19 deaths — that means 15 more than the 2020 total. Omg this is the bases of your claim Trump did better based on 15 lives
Wow Trump supporters :faga:

but seeing Trump was in charge until the 20th of Jan we should give him an additional 78 thousand deaths it’s only fair he gets the credit.. seeing conservatives are keeping score

Simple quest Jim did Trump and Biden have the same starting point with Covid y or n


2nd question do you understand how many people were already in the Covid pipe line sick or hospitalized on Jan 6th well on Jan 10 US totals were 208,295 new daily cases. And January has surpassed December as the deadliest month of the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S. so far. in December, when over 77,400 people Died January 79,200

It makes total sense Biden takes office on the 20th and it’s his fault January 2021 the deadliest for Covid Ya ok. Then cases fall off until August then Delta shows up and hits the unvaccinated and we see a spike ,,, by then U.S. administers 386.8 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines - CDC
And yet the 1st dose of vaccine was given out Dec 14 days so clearly the administration is trying to vaccinate the country


385,348 COVID-19 deaths — that means 15 more than the 2020 total. Omg this is the bases of your claim Trump did better based on 15 lives
Wow Trump supporters :faga:

"Simple quest Jim did Trump and Biden have the same starting point with Covid y or n "

N.

Biden had some challenges dumped in hos lap that weren't his fault at all, like the number of sick people that he inherited, the mutations, etc.

Biden also had some distinct advantages over Trump. No one on the planet was prepared for covid in 2020. Biden benefits form the knowledge and experience we gained in that year, and he inherited a well-working infastructure for testing and vaccines.

"It makes total sense Biden takes office on the 20th and it’s his fault January 2021 the deadliest for Covid"

Fair enough. Remove January and February 2021 from the equation. Tell me, in your opinion, when does he start owning the results? Ever? When are they "his" results? Your answer will be, "when the results are awesome".

"And yet the 1st dose of vaccine was given out Dec 14 days so clearly the administration is trying to vaccinate the country "

Trump administration was vaccinating a million people a day, Trump is telling people to get vaccinated, so clearly the previous administration was also trying to get people vaccinated. Shocking you left that fact out.

"that means 15 more than the 2020 total. "
December isn't over yet, this is one of the worst months. And for the tenth time, Trump didn't have time (plus the fact that the most vulnerable have probably already died, we should be left with a healthier population) to vaccinate half the country. That alone, you'd think would drastically reduce deaths. But they haven't.

Half the country is vaccinated, and deaths are increasing.

Apparently you haven't looked at Rhode Islands, you better stay in your closet

going to florida where it's safe....

Vermont keeps setting new records...i hope Pete is double boosted and tripled masked...

CT numbers are also surging, while Florida's numbers are improving rapidly. Funny, they all stopped talking about Florida at exactly the same time.

It's almost as if it wasn't about the facts, but rather, making a political point.

CT numbers are also surging, while Florida's numbers are improving rapidly. Funny, they all stopped talking about Florida at exactly the same time.

It's almost as if it wasn't about the facts, but rather, making a political point.


Euronews Sept 23, 20021

Portugal has the highest COVID-19 vaccination rate in the world


NY TIMES Oct 1, 2021

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate—

Portugal is among the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, who led the campaign, said there was a ...


CBS Nov 14, 2021

Portugal, the little country that could ... get vaccinated
— One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination.

CBS Sunday Morning Nov 14, 2021

Portugal is emerging as a shining example of civic duty. One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth, it is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination rate.


Reuters Nov 25, 2021

Portugal reimposes COVID-19 restrictions as cases rise
LISBON — Portugal, one of the world’s most vaccinated nations, has reimposed some restrictions to stop a surge in COVID-19 cases,

CBS DEC 6, 2021

Portugal reinstates restrictions after sharp rise in new COVID-19 cases
Portugal is bringing back tight pandemic restrictions amid a rise in COVID-19 infections.

WASHINGTON POST December 6, 2021

CDC issues ‘very high’ risk warning for travel to France and Portugal
The European countries received a Level 4. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said to avoid travel to France, Portugal, Cyprus, Andorra and Liechtenstein, grouping all in a Level 4 category that represents a “very high” level of the coronavirus.

Euronews Sept 23, 20021

Portugal has the highest COVID-19 vaccination rate in the world


NY TIMES Oct 1, 2021

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate—

Portugal is among the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, who led the campaign, said there was a ...


CBS Nov 14, 2021

Portugal, the little country that could ... get vaccinated
— One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination.

CBS Sunday Morning Nov 14, 2021

Portugal is emerging as a shining example of civic duty. One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth, it is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination rate.


Reuters Nov 25, 2021

Portugal reimposes COVID-19 restrictions as cases rise
LISBON — Portugal, one of the world’s most vaccinated nations, has reimposed some restrictions to stop a surge in COVID-19 cases,

CBS DEC 6, 2021

Portugal reinstates restrictions after sharp rise in new COVID-19 cases
Portugal is bringing back tight pandemic restrictions amid a rise in COVID-19 infections.

WASHINGTON POST December 6, 2021

CDC issues ‘very high’ risk warning for travel to France and Portugal
The European countries received a Level 4. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said to avoid travel to France, Portugal, Cyprus, Andorra and Liechtenstein, grouping all in a Level 4 category that represents a “very high” level of the coronavirus.

My friends daughter goes to COnnecticut College, an $80,000 a year school. 100% vaccination rate for students and faculty and staff. Had a huge outbreak, kids are sheltered in dorms, classrooms closed, cafeteria closed, sports games postponed. But no one getting very sick either.

So, is your point that the next variant is nothing to worry about?
800K dead, asking me to change my behavior for the good of my friends and neighbors is violating my constitutional rights so GFY
Amazing
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Unless you are just one stupid mother fu*ker, it’s becoming really clear that getting vaccinated will likely prevent serious illness and death. The entire globe has been struggling to keep ahead of this virus and get more vaccinated to reduce more variants from developing. I don’t know if or when this will be over, it certainly has dramatically shown how vulnerable the entire globe is to something like this. I’m so glad to be retired and able to basically lead a normal life, maybe less dinning out than usual, but I can’t imagine dealing with this in my previous job.

My friends daughter goes to COnnecticut College, an $80,000 a year school. 100% vaccination rate for students and faculty and staff. Had a huge outbreak, kids are sheltered in dorms, classrooms closed, cafeteria closed, sports games postponed. But no one getting very sick either.

Looks like they also require masks in all indoor spaces….

It appears to be spreading through vaccinated and masked populations just as easily as it is through unvaccinated populations.

So at least it’s preventing some from not getting as sick we think

Can the government require you to inject something because it might help you not get as sick from something potentially?
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Unless you are just one stupid mother fu*ker, it’s becoming really clear that getting vaccinated will likely prevent serious illness and death.

You should visit Pete’s therapist and have that checked…,,
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Looks like they also require masks in all indoor spaces….

It appears to be spreading through vaccinated and masked populations just as easily as it is through unvaccinated populations.

So at least it’s preventing some from not getting as sick we think

Can the government require you to inject something because it might help you not get as sick from something potentially?
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If you have children going to public schools then you have the answer to your closing question.

If you have children going to public schools then you have the answer to your closing question.

You might want to think about that a little more…
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You might want to think about that a little more…
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No need, school vaccinations are required to prevent highly contagious and dangerous illnesses, unless your living in a bubble, the government vaccine mandates are to try to stop a highly contagious dangerous illness. Spin your best, I’m ok with the mandates.

No need, school vaccinations are required to prevent highly contagious and dangerous illnesses, unless your living in a bubble, the government vaccine mandates are to try to stop a highly contagious dangerous illness. Spin your best, I’m ok with the mandates.


the vaccine is obviously helping, and i can’t see why someone wouldn’t get it unless they knew that they had natural immunity.

the federal mandates are being struck down left and right. and if biden can say the situation is urgent enough to force you to take medicine, so can a president you hate, like trump.
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No need, school vaccinations are required to prevent highly contagious and dangerous illnesses, unless your living in a bubble, the government vaccine mandates are to try to stop a highly contagious dangerous illness. Spin your best, I’m ok with the mandates.

? :doh:

the federal mandates are being struck down left and right.

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yup...

Spin your best, I’m ok with the mandates.



we know this, thankfully...you don't get to decide...

hey pete you'll love this...according to worldometers almost all of the top 10 new covid cases states are democrat states and all of the bottom 10 states with fewest new cases are trumplican states....oh..and reports of inflation are debunked conspiracy theories

hey pete you'll love this...according to worldometers almost all of the top 10 new covid cases states are democrat states and all of the bottom 10 states with fewest new cases are trumplican states....

he was just getting ready to post that and you preempted him.
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he was just getting ready to post that and you preempted him.
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I think he's busy joining the hunt for QAnon....

Silly girls,
Last night I had dinner with about a dozen friends, average age over 70 and far more conservative than you ne’er do wells.
Consensus was we all took vacinnes for the common good without whining about our rights
Judge for yourself, I don’t have a hard time figuring out who’s full of baloney
Especially when I look at tattoos and hear about fear of needles
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then there’s burdens vaccine mandates that courts are striking down all over.
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The fact that your phone auto-corrected Biden to Burden is friggin priceless :hihi:
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The fact that your phone auto-corrected Biden to Burden is friggin priceless :hihi:
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yup! have a good weekend.
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Euronews Sept 23, 20021

Portugal has the highest COVID-19 vaccination rate in the world


NY TIMES Oct 1, 2021

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate—

Portugal is among the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, who led the campaign, said there was a ...


CBS Nov 14, 2021

Portugal, the little country that could ... get vaccinated
— One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination.

CBS Sunday Morning Nov 14, 2021

Portugal is emerging as a shining example of civic duty. One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth, it is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination rate.


Reuters Nov 25, 2021

Portugal reimposes COVID-19 restrictions as cases rise
LISBON — Portugal, one of the world’s most vaccinated nations, has reimposed some restrictions to stop a surge in COVID-19 cases,

CBS DEC 6, 2021

Portugal reinstates restrictions after sharp rise in new COVID-19 cases
Portugal is bringing back tight pandemic restrictions amid a rise in COVID-19 infections.

WASHINGTON POST December 6, 2021

CDC issues ‘very high’ risk warning for travel to France and Portugal
The European countries received a Level 4. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said to avoid travel to France, Portugal, Cyprus, Andorra and Liechtenstein, grouping all in a Level 4 category that represents a “very high” level of the coronavirus.

Here we go again with the vaccine didn’t work nonsense . Masks don’t work. Bla bla bla. Look at Portugal…. Not sure where the right got the goal of the vaccine was to prevent infection? this simplified thinking is the hallmark of conservatives now it’s bag to red state blue state . All while ignoring where it was over the summer the majority of who’s being infected. ( the unvaccinated) They see delta no different than the original
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Euronews Sept 23, 20021

Portugal has the highest COVID-19 vaccination rate in the world


NY TIMES Oct 1, 2021

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate—

Portugal is among the most highly vaccinated countries in the world. Vice Adm. Henrique Gouveia e Melo, who led the campaign, said there was a ...


CBS Nov 14, 2021

Portugal, the little country that could ... get vaccinated
— One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination.

CBS Sunday Morning Nov 14, 2021

Portugal is emerging as a shining example of civic duty. One of the most vaccinated countries on Earth, it is now welcoming visitors after having achieved a 98% vaccination rate.


Reuters Nov 25, 2021

Portugal reimposes COVID-19 restrictions as cases rise
LISBON — Portugal, one of the world’s most vaccinated nations, has reimposed some restrictions to stop a surge in COVID-19 cases,

CBS DEC 6, 2021

Portugal reinstates restrictions after sharp rise in new COVID-19 cases
Portugal is bringing back tight pandemic restrictions amid a rise in COVID-19 infections.

WASHINGTON POST December 6, 2021

CDC issues ‘very high’ risk warning for travel to France and Portugal
The European countries received a Level 4. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said to avoid travel to France, Portugal, Cyprus, Andorra and Liechtenstein, grouping all in a Level 4 category that represents a “very high” level of the coronavirus.


the prime minister warned Tuesday that the latest infection surge across Europe compels the Portuguese government to consider precautionary measures.

We can’t ignore the signs,” Prime Minister António Costa said of the European Union’s growing number of new confirmed cases. “The later we act, the greater the risk.”

So far, daily deaths of people with COVID-19 remain in the single digits, and the number of infected patients requiring ICU treatment has been below 100 since mid-September.


New restrictions on gatherings and rules on mask-wearing are possible, however. COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing serious illness but don’t stop coronavirus infections.

Seems this part of the story was absent in and even they don’t think the vaccine prevents infections
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Silly girls,
Last night I had dinner with about a dozen friends, average age over 70 and far more conservative than you ne’er do wells.
Consensus was we all took vacinnes for the common good without whining about our rights
Judge for yourself, I don’t have a hard time figuring out who’s full of baloney
Especially when I look at tattoos and hear about fear of needles
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Ok Jussie....

even they don’t think the vaccine prevents infections....

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so the vaccine doesn't prevent infections...

Ok Jussie....

Sure Tucker…
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…. Not sure where the right got the goal of the vaccine was to prevent infection?


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:spin:

On November 4th, the day after the election, a text from Perry's phone sent to Meadows recommended taking an "aggressive" plan to stop President Joe Biden from being declared the winner.

"Here's an aggressive strategy," the message began. "Why can't Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and other Republican-controlled state houses declare this is B.S. (where conflicts and election not called that night) and just send their own electors to vote."

Antifa must have sent the text
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"Here's an aggressive strategy," the message began. "Why can't Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and other Republican-controlled state houses declare this is B.S. (where conflicts and election not called that night) and just send their own electors to vote."

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no gunplay mentioned?

no gunplay mentioned?

If it had, you still wouldn’t see it as a big deal .
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"Here's an aggressive strategy," the message began. "Why can't Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and other Republican-controlled state houses declare this is B.S. (where conflicts and election not called that night) and just send their own electors to vote."

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you mean, kind of like the way democrats use superdelegates in their primaries?

That way the democrats don’t have to be inconvenienced by, you know, democracy.

I’m so old, I remember the aftermath of the 2016 election, when democrats were urging electors not to cast their votes for Trump.

Boy oh boy, I’d give a shiny new penny to know what you had to say about that at the time.
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I’m so old, I remember the aftermath of the 2016 election, when democrats were urging electors not to cast their votes for Trump.
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I'm older, so you can add 2000 and 2004 to that too......
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I'm older, so you can add 2000 and 2004 to that too......
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all of a sudden, democrats are known for their ability to lose gracefully.
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you mean, kind of like the way democrats use superdelegates in their primaries?

That way the democrats don’t have to be inconvenienced by, you know, democracy.

I’m so old, I remember the aftermath of the 2016 election, when democrats were urging electors not to cast their votes for Trump.

Boy oh boy, I’d give a shiny new penny to know what you had to say about that at the time.
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Still keeping the lie alive wow your 1 patriotic American!
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President Joe Biden has done a “horrible job” against COVID-19 — and one reason people are refusing to take the vaccine is because they don’t trust him, former President Donald Trump says in a new interview.


Trump also explained why he never fired infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was a leader of the White House Coronavirus Task Force — arguing that he just simply ignored his advice.
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Still keeping the lie alive wow your 1 patriotic American!
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what lie am i keeping alive? i’ve sId a thousand times i think got creamed fair and square, and it was largely his own fault..

you’re the one lying, implying that it’s only the gop who can’t admit defeat. tell that to stacey abrams.
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President Joe Biden has done a “horrible job” against COVID-19 — and one reason people are refusing to take the vaccine is because they don’t trust him, former President Donald Trump says in a new interview.


Trump also explained why he never fired infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci, who was a leader of the White House Coronavirus Task Force — arguing that he just simply ignored his advice.
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Biden inherited wide scale testing and vaccination. he also inherited a years worth of global experience and knowledge. yet deaths are up. if increased deaths isn’t the sign of a bad job, i’d sure hate to see what you’d call a bad job.

“But Trump!!!”.

Every single time Biden screws up, your reaction is “ but Trump”.

What are you afraid would happen if you just admitted Biden made some huge mistakes? why do you have to pretend Biden is flawless?


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what lie am i keeping alive? i’ve sId a thousand times i think got creamed fair and square, and it was largely his own fault..

you’re the one lying, implying that it’s only the gop who can’t admit defeat. tell that to stacey abrams.
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Republicans were able to get two objections formally considered in 2021

How many did the Dems get ZERO

But please keep looking at these issues as if they totally separate and unrelated

It’s called denial
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Biden inherited wide scale testing and vaccination. he also inherited a years worth of global experience and knowledge. yet deaths are up. if increased deaths isn’t the sign of a bad job, i’d sure hate to see what you’d call a bad job.

“But Trump!!!”.

Every single time Biden screws up, your reaction is “ but Trump”.

What are you afraid would happen if you just admitted Biden made some huge mistakes? why do you have to pretend Biden is flawless?


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Who said But Trump? These are his statements your stable genius

And The Biden administration is failing on testing …big time . Just go try to get one near impossible in a timely fashion
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Sarah Palin showed up at Turning Point USA in Phoenix this morning to tell that crowd “it will be over my dead body” that she gets vaccinated. Then she encourages others to “stiffen their spines” and fight back. “There is an empowerment in a group like this where we can kind of feed off each other.”

But mainstream republicans aren’t anti vacc
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Who said But Trump?
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you did. You questioned why anyone could say biden has done a horrible
job with the virus, i listed a few reasons why someone conclude that, and you immediately responded with “Trump is bad.”

read your post.
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Who said But Trump? These are his statements your stable genius

And The Biden administration is failing on testing …big time . Just go try to get one near impossible in a timely fashion
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it is just about impossible to get one here near Hartford, within 24 hours. didn’t used to be.

i’m not saying that’s biden’s fault. but it’s absolutely true.

i found out yesterday, that the doctor i saw last week, tested positive, so i should test. soonest i could get was tuesday. i looked yesterday ( sunday) couldn’t get a test until
tuesday. that’s a fact whether you like it or not.
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it is just about impossible to get one here near Hartford, within 24 hours. didn’t used to be.

i’m not saying that’s biden’s fault. but it’s absolutely true.

i found out yesterday, that the doctor i saw last week, tested positive, so i should test. soonest i could get was tuesday. i looked yesterday ( sunday) couldn’t get a test until
tuesday. that’s a fact whether you like it or not.
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its Bidens fault they sat on their hands and got complacent like many Americans Have. was in walmart maybe 50/50 split on masks and with all the experts telling Americans what's coming and seems many have tuned out

"This Omicron variant is extraordinarily contagious. It's as contagious as measles, and that's about the most contagious virus that we've seen,

still People like Sarah Palin when she had covid said "I strongly encourage everyone to use common sense to avoid spreading this and every other virus out there," and reported her dad got his 2nd shot

But now she's claiming Natural immunity is the key .. to her followers

“It’ll be over my dead body that I’ll have to get a shot. I will not do it. I won’t do it, and they better not touch my kids, either.”

odd all but one of her kids is an adult

its Bidens fault they sat on their hands and got complacent like many Americans Have. was in walmart maybe 50/50 split on masks and with all the experts telling Americans what's coming and seems many have tuned out

"This Omicron variant is extraordinarily contagious. It's as contagious as measles, and that's about the most contagious virus that we've seen,

still People like Sarah Palin when she had covid said "I strongly encourage everyone to use common sense to avoid spreading this and every other virus out there," and reported her dad got his 2nd shot

But now she's claiming Natural immunity is the key .. to her followers

“It’ll be over my dead body that I’ll have to get a shot. I will not do it. I won’t do it, and they better not touch my kids, either.”

odd all but one of her kids is an adult

i said very specifically, that it’s not all Biden’s fault. So as usual, i’m not sure who you’re responding to.

Some of it is biden’s fault. his policies ( mandates and mandatory testing) will obviously drastically increase crease the demand for tests, but he didn’t expand the testing infastructure he inherited, to accommodate the increased demand. a year ago, i could get a year the same day i wanted one. today i wait almost 48 hours.

It happened on his watch, and he did contribute to it a little.

there are tons of influential republicans who advocate the shots. you pretend they don’t exist, because you can’t accept the reality that they’re not all morons

i could quite maxine waters all day long, but she’s one kooky moron, she doesn’t speak for you or for any other democrats.

you do that a lot. you find a quote from some fringe, non-influential republican who is a kook and a moron, and you act as if they speak for all of us.

you have just as many lunatics in the left. but i’m honest enough to know they don’t speak for anyone but themselves.

Hank Johnson is an elected democrat congressmen. when he was told they wanted to build a military base in guam, he wondered if it would make guam tip over. he literally said that. that’s beyond stupid. does he speak for you?

Sarah Palin has zero influence in the gop. None.
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wdmso, in highly vaccinated maine, 59% of covid deaths in october, were people who were fully vaccinated.

Maine senator susan collins asked Faucci why that is, he had no answer, because he’s an empty suit idiot who is waaay too caught up in his own celebrity.

the #^&#^&#^&#^& isn’t a billet proof vest. it’s a lot better then nothing. but it’s not what we need. we need something better.

https://edfolsomlaw.com/2021/10/breakthrough-deaths-are-59-of-all-maine-covid-19-deaths-10-15-10-22/
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wdmso, in highly vaccinated maine, 59% of covid deaths in october, were people who were fully vaccinated.

Maine senator susan collins asked Faucci why that is, he had no answer, because he’s an empty suit idiot who is waaay too caught up in his own celebrity.

the #^&#^&#^&#^& isn’t a billet proof vest. it’s a lot better then nothing. but it’s not what we need. we need something better.

https://edfolsomlaw.com/2021/10/breakthrough-deaths-are-59-of-all-maine-covid-19-deaths-10-15-10-22/
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Dr. Fauci has been NIAID director during six presidencies, including Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barrack Obama and Donald Trump. He has testified before the U.S. Congress about every major public health crisis since 1984, including HIV/AIDS, Ebola, anthrax, and COVID-19.

because he’s an empty suit idiot who is waaay too caught up in his own celebrity. ya ok keep up the smear campaign and attacks on intellectuals.. as if you would or the maga universe would believe the next guy :smash:

funny Jim i watch the clip and heard his answer which was over a month ago I am curious . what should he have said ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc1JMOv8P3A

breakthrough COVID-19 deaths of the fully vaccinated were 13 of Maine’s 22 deaths

Maine Hospitalization Data as of yesterday


The Maine CDC reported a record 384 Mainers were in the hospital with COVID-19 as of Sunday. Of those, a pandemic record-high of 133 are in an intensive care unit, up from Saturday's count of 115. 68 patients were on a ventilator on Sunday.

There were 51 ICU beds available statewide, including 11 pediatric. no data on vax status or underlying issues


“This is clearly a surge of the unvaccinated,” said Dr. Joan Boomsma, chief medical officer for MaineHealth, which operates a network of 10 hospitals, including Maine Medical Center in Portland. he must not be Truthful when he said This is clearly a surge of the unvaccinated ?

l Just look at Michigan seems they are having a similar trend Please note the Michigan example shows those with underlying conditions The Maine example is just a number and incomplete


it funny how the right is somehow trying to focus on breaktru infections not the unvaccinated Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), said last week, “We know — and the data is very clear at this point — covid vaxxes are not preventing infection.” Nov 18


“The vaccinated can spread the virus as efficiently as anybody else,” Carlson claimed. “So what is the justification for these mandates at this point?”

Berenson responded that “there’s just no evidence that the vaccines halt infection or transmission in any way.”


“the vaccine does not prevent you from getting covid and does not prevent you from transmitting covid.” so in a nutshell why get the vaccine

The vaccines are effective at preventing serious illness and death, but they are not a golden shield against the coronavirus. this has been the messaging from day one unless your a republican

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R)said last week, “We know — and the data is very clear at this point — covid vaxxes are not preventing infection.”

Tucker Carlson welcomed anti-vaccine activist Alex Berenson on his show yet again.
Berenson responded that “there’s just no evidence that the vaccines halt infection or transmission in any way.”

So the message is clear dont get the vaccine or you dont need it Republicans will do and say anything for a Vote.... but that vote might not make it out the ICU


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/11/22/most-pernicious-anti-vaccine-talking-point/

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R)said last week, “We know — and the data is very clear at this point — covid vaxxes are not preventing infection.”

Tucker Carlson welcomed anti-vaccine activist Alex Berenson on his show yet again.
Berenson responded that “there’s just no evidence that the vaccines halt infection or transmission in any way.”

So the message is clear dont get the vaccine or you dont need it Republicans will do and say anything for a Vote.... but that vote might not make it out the ICU


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/11/22/most-pernicious-anti-vaccine-talking-point/

wrong.

i agree, there’s very little data to suggest the vaccines halt spreading infection. So Berenson is correct.

the benefit of the vaccine is to keep you from getting really sick, after you’ve been infected.

i don’t believe that getting vaccinated makes me a lot less likely to get covid. I do believe it reduces y chances of dying from it.

although how do you explain what happened in maine with so many deaths among the fully vaccinated? what’s yuur response to that?

What Desantis and Tuckers guest said, is true. but as usual, you canon accept truths which don’t support liberalism.

why do you have to pretend it’s wrong to say vaccines don’t prevent the spread of infection?

what are you afraid will happen if you just admit it?
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WDMSO, if you believe that truth is important when dealing with pandemic, consider what Biden said this weekend...

"If you're vaccinated, and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death".

As I posted, 59% of Maine deaths in October were from people who were fully vaccinated.

So you tell me if Bidens statement is truthful or not. I'll wait. What Desantis said (which you posted), is true. What Biden said, is not. How can you deny that with a straight face.

He promised during the campaign to beat the virus (also to cure cancer). Yet deaths are increasing. If that's beating the virus, man I'd hate to see what "losing to the virus" looks like.

because he’s an empty suit idiot who is waaay too caught up in his own celebrity.
Are you trying to make yourself look stupid?

wrong.

i agree, there’s very little data to suggest the vaccines halt spreading infection. So Berenson is correct.
Actually according to the CDC there is. Yet you are taking the word of a crackpot novelist.

Are you TRYING to make yourself look stupid again?

Actually according to the CDC there is. Yet you are taking the word of a crackpot novelist.

Are you TRYING to make yourself look stupid again?

tell me why 59% of maines deaths in october, came from fully vaccinated folks.

tell me why many college campuses with at least 99% vaccination rates, are having outbreaks.

i’m going by the facts i see reported. i dont blindly believe anyone. that’s what you guys do, not me. stop projecting.

i await your explanations for the number of breakthrough cases we are, in segments of our population that are vaccinated.

i’m vaccinated and getting my booster tomorrow. i’m not anti vaccine. but it’s not the shield against transmission that we hoped it was. but if it’s still a decent defense against death, that’s more than enough reason to take it. but i’m concerned about maines deaths among the fully vaccinated, as you would be if you weren’t a brain dead cult member who can’t question anything said by any democrat because you’re too busy having orgasms when any democrat speaks.
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Are you trying to make yourself look stupid?

Faucci works in an office with a huge, massive, oil painting of, wait for it…himself.

that’s not narcissistic.

he’s a moron who has flip flopped on almost every single issue related to this virus, and who obviously misled the world about the NIH funding the lab where it most likely originated from.
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Spence -

look at MN. Just since November 14, Minnesota has had 125,000 covid cases among the vaccinated, with 938 deaths among the vaccinated.

Now, I'm certain the deaths would be higher if no one was vaccinated. But if one state has 125,000 covid cases among vaccinated people in one month, that tells me that it's pretty easy to catch covid even if you're vaccinated. I'm sure you're less likely to get it than if you weren't vaccinated, but it's still common to get covid if you're vaccinated. Only a rabid partisan would deny that.

Anyway, Biden promised to beat the vaccine and also to cure cancer, so I'm sure he'll accomplish both in the next 3 years. Right?

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html

that tells me that it's pretty easy to catch covid even if you're vaccinated. I'm sure you're less likely to get it than if you weren't vaccinated,

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I bet an unvaccinated person wearing a mask is less likely to get it and transmit it than an unmasked fully vaccinated person
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tell me why 59% of maines deaths in october, came from fully vaccinated folks.
I don't think that statistic is very meaningful. Maine has had a super low covid death rate and is one of the most vaccinated states in the country. It would only make sense to see a higher percentage of breakthrough cases.

tell me why many college campuses with at least 99% vaccination rates, are having outbreaks.

Because mutations are more transmissible and college students don't tend to follow rules very well.

I don't think that statistic is very meaningful.

i’m sure the people who got vaccinated yet died, take great comfort in knowing that you don’t find it important.

MN had over 100,000 breakthrough cases in a month.

Meaningful numbers of vaccinated people are getting covid. i’m very sorry if you don’t find that fact to be politically convenient when you’re clinging to a potus who’s drowning in bad news. It’s a fact whether you happen to like it or not, and lying about it does no good.
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Next we’ll hear some evidence that insurance isn’t worthwhile because it doesn’t totally prevent loss.
Why even have insurance if you can still have a loss.
Apparently there’s lots of foolish people around.
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Typical response from Jim he says he’s pro vaccine but regurgitates right wing talking points and a fauci’s a clown.

Just as I said conservatives talking about break tru infections as if what happening with the unvaccinated is remotely the same thing

I see you paid no attention to the measles attachment and how it applys to omicron spread

Or the Michigan hospital break down https://www.uofmhealth.org/coronavirus/covid19-numbers

So here it is again

Data for December 20, 2021

Total patients hospitalized: 86 (54*)
Vaccinated: 34 (23*)
Unvaccinated:52 (31*)
Patients in the ICU: 39 (28*)
Vaccinated: 10 (8*)
Unvaccinated: 29 (20*)
Patients on ventilators: 27 (19*)
Vaccinated: 8 (7*)
Unvaccinated: 19 (12*)

Three-quarters of Michigan's COVID-19 patients unvaccinated, hospital group says
But but breaktru infections are some how the bigger issue

And yet you speak of and suggest what Ron said was just the Truth LOL

You appear to lack perspective why there is another global Covid wave and to suggest that some how Biden promising to beat the virus just like beating cancer is not a worthy aspiration and he is expected do it alone. Reeks of political convenience after all we have seen who and what party ignored Covid and the steps suggested to fight it and whom still think it’s just going to disappear
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i’m sure the people who got vaccinated yet died, take great comfort in knowing that you don’t find it important.

MN had over 100,000 breakthrough cases in a month.

Meaningful numbers of vaccinated people are getting covid. i’m very sorry if you don’t find that fact to be politically convenient when you’re clinging to a potus who’s drowning in bad news. It’s a fact whether you happen to like it or not, and lying about it does no good.
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“Our hospitals are filled with patients with COVID and we’re struggling,” Dr. Brook Watts of @metrohealthCLE in Cleveland tells @JohnBerman on @AC360.

“We continue to see most of our patients, particularly our patients in the ICU, are unvaccinated.”

Latest CDC data by vaccine status:

Unvaccinated: 451 cases per 100k
Vaccinated: 134 cases per 100k
Boosted: 48 cases per 100k

Unvaccinated: 6.1 deaths per 100k
Vaccinated: 0.5 deaths per 100k
Boosted: 0.1 deaths per 100k
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Omicron has raced ahead of other variants and is now the dominant version of the coronavirus in the U.S., accounting for 73% of new infections last week, federal health officials said Monday.
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We can probably stop referring to them as “breakthrough” cases now…..
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We can probably stop referring to them as “breakthrough” cases now…..
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If exercise works, how come the medical establishment says you have to do it day after day, week after week, year after year?

It’s not about health, it’s about control. Wake up.
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It’s not about health, it’s about control. Wake up.
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You do realize Dr Fauci is a Sith Lord right?

You do realize Dr Fauci is a Sith Lord right?

i didn’t say that. i said he has flip flopped a lot, been wrong quite a bit, and gives the impression of someone who’s desperate for people to not know that he ( indirectly to be fair) helped fund the lab where covid may very well have originated.

“two weeks to bend the curve”, remember that? I do.

He didn’t orchestrate this or want it. But i think he’s extremely unqualified for the job he’s in.

A sincere question. Is there a limit to how many times a liberal can be wrong, before they lose credibility with you?

The people shaping public policy regarding covid, are almost certainly helping keep infections and deaths lower than they’d be if we didn’t do anything. But they’re also doing unbelievable damage to society, suicides are up, drug deaths are up, cities are breaking murder records, huge numbers of people seem to have just decided to stop working, young kids are way way behind with verbal and academic development, go’s knows how many small businesses closed. Does the left ever talk about the societal
cost?

there’s more to living, than minimizing risk of death. I’m afraid they’ll be writing papers for 100 years about the damage done to
kids.

Hard all around, and for sure both sides are politicizing it.
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since all democraps are obviously fully vaccinated and all trumplicans and most republicans remain unvaccinated the democraps should encourage their friends on the right to remain unvaccinated so they get covid and die and can't vote in the midterms...

The statistics for the unvaxxed would be far worse if millions of OTHER, WISER Americans hadn't already received ~half a billion vax shots, and if health care workers hadn't gone beyond the call of duty every day for nearly 2 years now.

Get vaxxed. Wear a mask. Wear it properly.
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since all democraps are obviously fully vaccinated and all trumplicans and most republicans remain unvaccinated the democraps should encourage their friends on the right to remain unvaccinated so they get covid and die and can't vote in the midterms...

they can vote posthumously in the midterms, as long as they vote democrat.
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Get vaxxed. Wear a mask.

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that didn't age well....

they can vote posthumously in the midterms, as long as they vote democrat.
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didn't Bob Dole mention is his farewell message voting in Chicago?...that was pretty funny