I have never seen that. He usually just comments on people from the left's posts.

then what you see, is less than accurate.

He’s disagreed with me many times. And he’s had a valid point every single time he does. so instead of insulting him, pergaps reflect on why he’s saying what he’s saying.

in this case, the gop did not vote against helping vets. they voted against the dems’ attempt to exploit a bill helping vets, by sneaking in a budgetary gimmick. that’s what happened. but not one of you can say it.

if the dems propose a clean bill with no gimmicks and the gop votes against that, then i’ll be the first one to say they voted against vets.
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I used to go back and forth with Skip N, Dangles, and occasionally RIJimmy. And then the orange guy won, and the left became completely unhinged and delirious. So yeah, I can find issues with both sides, but one side has just gone completely bonkers.

I was a registered Dem up until the 2020 election, I’m now unenrolled, I would never want to be associated with that awful group of people again….ever.

And before you start with the R’s are no better, notice the word Unenrolled.

To simplify, they both suck
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I used to go back and forth with Skip N, Dangles, and occasionally RIJimmy. And then the orange guy won, and the left became completely unhinged and delirious. So yeah, I can find issues with both sides, but one side has just gone completely bonkers.

I was a registered Dem up until the 2020 election, I’m now unenrolled, I would never want to be associated with that awful group of people again….ever.

And before you start with the R’s are no better, notice the word Unenrolled.

To simplify, they both suck
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the people running for office on both sides are gross. we need to stop
electing people
based on fame and looks.
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Term limits would solve a lot, but the career politicians aren’t likely to change the rules. Maybe this time around a third party can actually get up and running.
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I used to go back and forth with Skip N, Dangles, and occasionally RIJimmy. And then the orange guy won, and the left became completely unhinged and delirious. So yeah, I can find issues with both sides, but one side has just gone completely bonkers.

I was a registered Dem up until the 2020 election, I’m now unenrolled, I would never want to be associated with that awful group of people again….ever.

And before you start with the R’s are no better, notice the word Unenrolled.

To simplify, they both suck
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Similar to me I was registered Republican for many years and have voted for probably more Republicans for president than Democrats. But while I agree both parties have moved I think the Republicans have moved far more than the Democrats and don't think I would ever vote for Republican again for president unfortunately. I too am a unaffiliated. I don't think a republican would now ever start the EPA or OSHA for example like Nixon did.
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I have never seen that. He usually just comments on people from the left's posts.

because they are the most obnoxious :tooth:

because they are the most obnoxious :tooth:

Now that’s funny!
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wel we ( including the most middle of the road guy here) proved you were lying about what the GOP did to “vets”, so you have zero credibility on the other issues.
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VA Secretary Denis McDonough says Republican Senators’ new proposed changes to the PACT Act would result in rationing care to sick veterans; the VA could only spend so much per year, regardless of need, and would only treat vets for 10 years, again, regardless of need.

The same people helped Trump add 7.8 TRILLION to the debt.
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Republicans are losing their minds that gas prices are coming down, inflation is getting better, the stock market is going up, and Congress is actually working together on meaningful legislation

Not to mention they have no substantial issues to run on in November
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Republicans are losing their minds that gas prices are coming down, inflation is getting better,
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yup. $4 gas and 9.1% inflation are can’t-lose statistics for democrats.
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Not to mention they have no substantial issues to run on in November
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here’s their issue…

“when we were in charge, gas was $1.50, inflation was 0%, crime and drug overdoses were far lower. 58% of americans said they were better off in 2020 than they were in 2016. How many americns are better off in 2022 then they were in 2021? Had enough?”

the democrats message in 2020 was orange man bad. the gop message in 2022 can be, “had enough”?


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yup. $4 gas and 9.1% inflation are can’t-lose statistics for democrats.
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The two sacred cows that Republicans will protect at all costs - the drug industry and the oil industry - lose out if the Inflation Reduction Act passes.

That’s why the GOP is furious.
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here’s their issue…

“when we were in charge, gas was $1.50, inflation was 0%, crime and drug overdoses were far lower. 58% of americans said they were better off in 2020 than they were in 2016. How many americns are better off in 2022 then they were in 2021? Had enough?”

the democrats message in 2020 was orange man bad. the gop message in 2022 can be, “had enough”?


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Gas was $1.50 because Covid came and “ …when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Then Trump organized an increase in oil prices, crime started increasing on his watch and the Republican administration tried to perform a self coup.

I'm guessing the mother of all migrant caravans will be approaching the border in late October, only to magically disappear a week later, just like all the others.

And if that’s not enough, they do have homophobia, misogyny and racism-those have worked well for them in the past.
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Moody's Analytics finds the Manchin & Schumer-backed Inflation Reduction Act will "nudge the economy and inflation in the right direction, while meaningfully addressing climate change and reducing the government’s budget deficits."
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I used to go back and forth with Skip N, Dangles, and occasionally RIJimmy. And then the orange guy won, and the left became completely unhinged and delirious. So yeah, I can find issues with both sides, but one side has just gone completely bonkers.

I was a registered Dem up until the 2020 election, I’m now unenrolled, I would never want to be associated with that awful group of people again….ever.

And before you start with the R’s are no better, notice the word Unenrolled.

To simplify, they both suck
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I would never want to be associated with that awful group of people again….ever.


why ? because they tried to hold the orangeman accountable ? or some other reason ?

Gas was $1.50 because Covid came and “ …when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Then Trump organized an increase in oil prices, crime started increasing on his watch and the Republican administration tried to perform a self coup.

I'm guessing the mother of all migrant caravans will be approaching the border in late October, only to magically disappear a week later, just like all the others.

And if that’s not enough, they do have homophobia, misogyny and racism-those have worked well for them in the past.
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Seem there is a New Abbott crisis

The Texas Department of Agriculture is becoming increasingly worried about escalating attempts by migrants to block Mexican highways,


yep you read it right migrants to block Mexican highways,

But for republicans Putin didn't affect gas prices or global inflation by invading Ukraine


But Migrants Blocking Mexican Highways Could Threaten US Supply Chain :bs:

democrat message for midterms…

hey, things aren’t as bad as they were last month! ( except for the fact we’re in a recession, though we’re working on changing the definition away from ‘period of time when the economy is receding”).
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The two sacred cows that Republicans will protect at all costs - the drug industry and the oil industry - lose out if the Inflation Reduction Act passes.

That’s why the GOP is furious.
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who’s protecting the drug industry? the democrats control
DC right now, and are mandating vaccines and daily boosters.
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Moody's Analytics finds the Manchin & Schumer-backed Inflation Reduction Act will "nudge the economy and inflation in the right direction, while meaningfully addressing climate change and reducing the government’s budget deficits."
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how does printing $600 billion for
wind turbines reduce inflation?

pete, if it does what you say, i’ll be the first to
say “we’ll done.”.

but calling a spending bill the inflation reduction act, just naming it that, doesn’t reduce inflation.
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why ? because they tried to hold the orangeman accountable ? or some other reason ?

Well, they obviously have very low standards for membership
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MSNBC said today that “Herschel
Walker is what the GOP wants out of its negroes”, and that “his campaign is an insult to black people.”

they can’t just say why his ideas aren’t the best ideas.
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who’s protecting the drug industry? the democrats control
DC right now, and are mandating vaccines and daily boosters.
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Reading comprehension is not your strong point

“ The two sacred cows that Republicans will protect at all costs - the drug industry and the oil industry - lose out if the Inflation Reduction Act passes.

That’s why the GOP is furious.”
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MSNBC said today that “Herschel
Walker is what the GOP wants out of its negroes”, and that “his campaign is an insult to black people.”

they can’t just say why his ideas aren’t the best ideas.
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they can’t just say why his ideas aren’t the best ideas.

You really are just a blind follower

Since we don't control the air, our good air decided to float over to China's bad air, so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move," Walker said. "So it moves over to our good air space. Then, now, we got we to clean that back up."

At one time science said, man came from apes. Did it not?" Walker said at Sugar Hill Church in Northern Gwinnett County, outside of Atlanta, Ga., on March 13. "If that is true, why are there still apes? Think about it."
Or

And I want to apologize to the African-American community, because the fatherless home is a major, major problem,' Walker said in a September 2020 interview, adding that he had been 'like a father to some of those kids that had never had fathers,'

Yet he has one he’s never seen but forced to pay child support but hea stuff happens




He’s the candidate just because he’s black . And most black Americans see it for just that !
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He’s the candidate just because he’s black . And most black Americans see it for just that !

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this is incredibly racist of you to say......

Hey they elected THE smartest president of all time, so maybe they just want to put dumb arses into power that are easily manipulated and controlled.

The two sacred cows that Republicans will protect at all costs - the drug industry and the oil industry - lose out if the Inflation Reduction Act passes.

That’s why the GOP is furious.
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You forgot about increase funding for the agency which makes sure people pay the taxes they owe.

Four and a half years ago Marjorie Taylor Greene was talking on Facebook Live about how "Q is a patriot" to an audience of hundreds.

Notice that the open use of "Christian Nationalism" has passed its trial balloon phase and has now officially slithered its way into the MAGA glossary.

Now she's the highest profile freshman member of Congress and hanging out with Trump and Tucker Carlson. What a Party
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With Meijer getting run out of the party in Michigan, the MAGA GOP successfully reinforces its clear message: there is no place in the current GOP for principled truth-tellers. It is a party for liars.
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this is incredibly racist of you to say......

that is how Conservatives try to defend Walker


free washington beacon a bit extreme right but fits your view

Far-Left Commentator Slurs Black Republican Senate Candidate

the problem is the commentators are black themselves :kewl:

Raphael Warnock wants to debate Herschel Walker. Republicans smell a trap.

that is how Conservatives try to defend Walker



I didn't defend Walker, I said your comments were racist....

the problem is the commentators are black themselves :kewl:



this is racist too....

you seem color obsessed....

NEW Monmouth Poll on Americans' preference for control of Congress:

Democrats: 50%, up from 44% in May.

Republicans: 43%, down from 48% in May.

What happened to the ‘Red wave’?
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Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) has suggested that Social Security and Medicare be eliminated as federal entitlement programs, and that they should instead become programs approved by Congress on an annual basis as discretionary spending.


And GOP supporters love to say it won’t happen


Then when it’s said out loud by those they elect

It’s Crickets
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Go easy on the Repub. today. Cracker barrel added an impossible sausage to their menu and their all in a tizzy.

US primaries: Rusty Bowers, who defied Trump, loses re-election bid

And the GOP base voters again putting man before country and party and punishing truth honesty and integrity .

All while flying American flags yelling Freedom!

It’s amazing and terribly sad to watch
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Cheney challenger Hageman takes firm stance on 2020: ‘The election was rigged’

the top primary challenger to Rep. Liz Cheney (R) for Wyoming’s lone House seat, said on Wednesday that the 2020 presidential election was “rigged” against former President Trump, her firmest public stance on the election yet.

Is their no bottom to their deceit
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Boom. June payrolls added 528,000 jobs — more than *double* estimates of 250,000 new jobs. Unemployment rate drops to 3.5 from 3.6%.

The labor market shows no signs of cooling just yet.
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Boom. June payrolls added 528,000 jobs — more than *double* estimates of 250,000 new jobs. Unemployment rate drops to 3.5 from 3.6%.

The labor market shows no signs of cooling just yet.
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Biden just did it to help out racists as they are enjoying the lowest unemployment rate ever. ;)

For months now, the Governors of Texas and Arizona have been sending charter buses full of migrants and refugees to Washington D.C.'s Union Station, just a few blocks from the Capitol Building.


Texas Governor Greg Abbott says he started sending the buses to D.C. because the Biden administration attempted to lift the pandemic-era emergency Title 42 order that allowed the U.S. to deny migrants entry.

yet title 42 hasn't been lifted

According to Gov. Abbott's office, more than 6,100 migrants have been bused to D.C. from Texas alone and he's proud of that and showing his base he's owing the libs


Gov. Abbott's plan to bus migrants to D.C. "political theater". and Arizona Governor Doug Ducey playing along

what's next tattooed numbers ..

So the above is no great surprise seeing Texas already laid out the red carpet for like minded Orban

Gov. Greg Abbott and Hungarian Prime Minister headline first day of conservative conference in Dallas


But Orban has found defenders among prominent American conservatives Tucker Carlson and Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance.
Trump called Orban his “friend” and said he valued his perspective. “Few people know as much about what is going on in the world today,” Trump said.


Matt Schlapp, who leads the American Conservative Union that organizes CPAC, has defended Orban’s invitation in the name of free speech.

The crowd booed when Orban brought up George Soros, what a surprise
He concluded by looking to elections that will be held in both the United States and European Union in 2024.

“These two locations will define the two fronts in the battle being fought for Western civilization,” Orban said. “Today we hold neither of them yet. We need both. You have two years to get ready.”



Republicans of Old wouldn't be caught dead in the same room as Orban But know they dont want to be seen not by his side :kewl:

Boom. June payrolls added 528,000 jobs — more than *double* estimates of 250,000 new jobs. Unemployment rate drops to 3.5 from 3.6%.

The labor market shows no signs of cooling just yet.

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interesting....

"Much of the press coverage was similarly straight out of the Biden White House’s hymnal. But a closer look at the numbers suggests why a lot of workers are not feeling so thrilled right now. Comparing the seasonally adjusted numbers for July 2022 with the previous month, we see:

71,000 fewer people working full-time jobs;
384,000 more people working part-time jobs. There was an overall growth of 303,000 more people working part-time who would prefer full-time, driven by a growth of 331,000 more people in full-time jobs being cut back to part-time (what the report refers to as “slack” work);
92,000 more people working multiple jobs;
279,000 fewer people self-employed; and
63,000 fewer people in the civilian labor force, after a decline of 353,000 in June.

But….but….January 6th
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But….but….January 6th
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Why are you afraid of Jan 6th

Why should we dismiss it as you suggest?

We would all love to hear your detailed rationale . On the topic
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Why are you afraid of Jan 6th

I’m not

Why should we dismiss it as you suggest?

I didn’t

We would all love to hear your detailed rationale . On the topic
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Moved on
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I’m not



I didn’t



Moved on
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Thanks for the expected response
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Thanks for the expected response
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You’re Welcome
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Senate Republicans have just blocked the $35/month insulin price cap for Americans on private insurance from Democrats' spending bill.

Here’s what happens when folks can’t afford insulin: they try to ration it. When that happens their sugars rise to levels where their cells, starved of glucose, switch to using ketones for intracellular energy. Their blood pH drops, they start breathing faster and faster to maintain a neutral pH. It’s unsustainable, the pH drops to 7.1, 6.9, 6.7… they become unresponsive, they have a seizure. If they’re lucky someone finds them and calls 911. They come to the ED where, because the high glucose is drawing fluid into the blood, they have peed out gallons of fluid. We slam them with fluids, bicarbonate, insulin once we know their potassium levels. They go to the ICU where care costs 10,000 dollars a day. They stay for days, weeks sometimes. Even, if you’re heartless enough to ignore the human cost, the “cost cost” of What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid. It makes no sense. It’s inefficient. It costs more to fix DKA then it does to prevent them DKA. Way more.
Easy medical decision. Easy moral decision. Easy economic decision. And yet…
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What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid.

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in most cases they did and continue to do it to themselves...

Although not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States.

in most cases they did and continue to do it to themselves...

Although not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States.



So let’s punish them it’s their fault. ? So pay more for your insulin instead of healthy food. Is that the conservatives position?

Republicans blocked it for their donors and drug companies . over American citizens classic
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If Republicans retake control of the House after the 2022 midterms, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., vows to bring in the intelligence officials who allegedly knew of Hunter Biden's shady foreign business deals.


So now shady is being illegal?

Guess due process won’t exist under Republicans

That’s the mid term strategy
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Truth or satire?

Lindsey Graham on CSPAN: “ The Democrats are trying to attack us over this insulin thing. But next time you’re in a long line at the grocery, ask yourself: is it REALLY a good thing for more people to have life-saving medication? I thought liberals said we’re overpopulated.”
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in most cases they did and continue to do it to themselves...

Although not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States.

Have you ever seen a Trump rally?
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Have you ever seen a Trump rally?
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my comment was not political....

So let’s punish them it’s their fault. ? So pay more for your insulin instead of healthy food. Is that the conservatives position?


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how is this "punish" ?

"pay more for insulin instead of healthy food" is a huge assumption and probably not even close to reality

"Is this the conservatives position" and as usually you invent stuff and try to ascribe it to someone to fit your narrative

you should have gone with "so kill all the diabetics in the country and take their stuff"..."is this the conservatives position?" :kewl:

my comment was not political....

Look up ☝️

Even, if you’re heartless enough to ignore the human cost, the “cost cost” of What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid. It makes no sense. It’s inefficient. It costs more to fix DKA then it does to prevent them DKA. Way more.
Easy medical decision. Easy moral decision. Easy economic decision. And yet…
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Look up ☝️

Even, if you’re heartless enough to ignore the human cost, the “cost cost” of What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid. It makes no sense. It’s inefficient.
Easy medical decision. Easy moral decision. Easy economic decision. And yet…
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"WE" aren't doing anything to diabetics....most are doing it to themselves

diabetics are also most likely suffering from high blood pressure, high cholesterol, kidney disease, neuropathy etc....etc.......are we discounting all of those treatments and medications for them? And I though Obamacare fixed all of this? Insulin is just the political pandering flavor of the month....like forgiving student loans

and if you think a significant number of diabetics, as the result of having their insulin discounted by the federal government are suddenly going to turn to healthy groceries, exercise and weight loss...you are truly delusional

there is another option....

One of the first steps in getting off insulin is to exercise and adjust your diet to help you lose weight. Fasting from food for a portion of the day may help, as well as changing lifestyle habits such as quitting smoking.

Those with type 2 diabetes can often manage their condition with diet and exercise or with diabetes medications. Some others with this type of diabetes require insulin to control blood sugar levels.

A person with type 2 may start out on a once-daily pill that will control their blood sugar levels. However, if nothing changes with their lifestyle, they may need an adjustment to their dosage of medication or may be placed on insulin to replace their current treatment plan.

"WE" aren't doing anything to diabetics....most are doing it to themselves

diabetics are also most likely suffering from high blood pressure, high cholesterol, kidney disease, neuropathy etc....etc.......are we discounting all of those treatments and medications for them? And I though Obamacare fixed all of this? Insulin is just the political pandering flavor of the month....like forgiving student loans

and if you think a significant number of diabetics, as the result of having their insulin discounted by the federal government are suddenly going to turn to healthy groceries, exercise and weight loss...you are truly delusional

there is another option....

One of the first steps in getting off insulin is to exercise and adjust your diet to help you lose weight. Fasting from food for a portion of the day may help, as well as changing lifestyle habits such as quitting smoking.

Those with type 2 diabetes can often manage their condition with diet and exercise or with diabetes medications. Some others with this type of diabetes require insulin to control blood sugar levels.

A person with type 2 may start out on a once-daily pill that will control their blood sugar levels. However, if nothing changes with their lifestyle, they may need an adjustment to their dosage of medication or may be placed on insulin to replace their current treatment plan.

So your solution is to get Americans to change their lives for their own good?
We can’t subsidize insulin but subsidize high fructose corn syrup?

Don’t forget you’re in 'murica: firepower, corn syrup and deadly denial
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So your solution is to get Americans to change their lives for their own good?

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I know it's a terrible idea...:hihi:

I know it's a terrible idea...:hihi:

It’s very noble but as I wrote

We can’t subsidize insulin but subsidize high fructose corn syrup?

Don’t forget you’re in 'murica: firepower, corn syrup and deadly denial
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how is this "punish" ?

"pay more for insulin instead of healthy food" is a huge assumption and probably not even close to reality

"Is this the conservatives position" and as usually you invent stuff and try to ascribe it to someone to fit your narrative

you should have gone with "so kill all the diabetics in the country and take their stuff"..."is this the conservatives position?" :kewl:

First veterans now insulin users

Other than they denied Biden a small win . who did they protect? I doubt this added to the national deficit or added to inflation .

Yet republicans have complained about gas and oil taxes in the same bill Even while Recent second-quarter earnings reports proffered eye-popping figures: BP posted second-quarter profits worth $8.5 billion, its biggest windfall in 14 years. ExxonMobil went one further — its $17.9 billion in net income was its largest-ever quarterly profit. U.S. company Chevron, London-based Shell and France’s TotalEnergies also recorded blockbuster results. Put together, these five major companies made $55 billion this past quarter, as hundreds of millions of people around the world bore the brunt of surging prices at the pump.


You claim most are doing it to themselves

I guess theirs many different ways you read that? Other than assigned blame .

Top state for diabetes , Red states and their gullible base will cheer we’re owning the libs

1 wWest Virginia 15.7%
2 BAlabama 15.0%
3 YMississippi 14.6%
4 RLouisiana 14.3%
5 pTennessee 14.2%
6 nSouth Carolina 13.6%
7 CArkansas 13.2%
8 QKentucky 13.1%
9 jOklahoma 13.0%
9 qTexas 13.0%
11 HDelaware 12.7%
11 aNorth Carolina 12.7%


Individual poverty increased the odds of having diabetes for both Whites and Blacks. Living in a poor neighborhood increased the odds of having diabetes for Blacks and poor Whites.

I know I made up buy insulin or buy healthier food That’s never a choice

The cost of insulin for patients with insurance ranges from $334 to $1,000 a month, to 35.00 that’s huge

And of course you can’t control how that savings will be used



I am sorry Scott that my narratives actual include facts

And the facts are Diabetes are a cash cow for big pharma? Aka donors

Drug industry lobbyists viewed Republicans’ control of the Senate as critical to the industry’s interests.

top money getters. Republicans, like Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) — the GOP leaders of the Senate and House, respectively — also ranked in the top 15 of all recipients.
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Myth: I will likely develop diabetes because I am overweight.

Fact: It is true that excess weight increases your chance of having diabetes. However, many people who are overweight or obese never develop diabetes.

Diabetes Is Not Your Fault
Don’t blame yourself for developing type 2 diabetes, and don’t let anyone else blame you either. It is not caused by laziness or a lack of will power. Eating sweets didn’t do it. Type 2 diabetes is a genetic disease.


Conservatives just exercise such a simple response for a topic with such complexity
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Funny


The deal comes as President Donald Trump returns to the issue of drug prices, trying to woo older people whose votes are critical to his reelection prospects.

Trump Medicare recipients who pick a drug plan offering the new insulin benefit would pay a maximum of $35 a month starting next year, a savings estimated at $446 annually. Fluctuating cost-sharing amounts that are common now would be replaced by a manageable sum.


Same plan 35.00. But for private insurance and republicans shoot it down. As if the above never happened

Trump buying votes good. Dems looking good. Can’t have that
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For the first time this election cycle,
The five Thirty-Eight model projects that Democrats will keep the Senate with a 60/40 advantage.

Which of the things the Trumplicans did do you think is the reason for this change, or it the realization that the the Dems actually pass things that benefit the American people?
Seems like threatening healthcare, Social Security and Medicare while taking away Choice might not work that well for the far right
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Fact: It is true that excess weight increases your chance of having diabetes. However, many people who are overweight or obese never develop diabetes.


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WEBMD

obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States

and not coincidentally

CDC Childhood obesity rates are rising, and so are the rates of type 2 diabetes in youth.

We can’t subsidize insulin but subsidize high fructose corn syrup?


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we should ban it....

we should ban it....

We could simply stop subsidizing it

Outside of North America it's actually not in that many foods, because they don't have the massive import taxes on sugar and massive subsidies of corn production that make it cheaper to use HFCS in food production.
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Ron DeSantis recently tweeted an image of what he said was a new state license plate featuring a coiled rattlesnake and the words "Don't Tread on Me," he said it sends a "clear message to out-of-state cars."

What message is he sending It’s not freedom it’s extremism
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Ron DeSantis recently tweeted an image of what he said was a new state license plate featuring a coiled rattlesnake and the words "Don't Tread on Me," he said it sends a "clear message to out-of-state cars."

What message is he sending It’s not freedom it’s extremism
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completely wrong. you’re not familiar with that expression, you’ve never seen that flag? it’s literally an expression of freedom.

google the Gadsden flag for gods sake. it’s very well known. it’s literally a symbol of liberty and freedom.

next you’ll deny the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty.

Get SOME FACTS before you go on a stupid rant.

but no, you aren’t motivated by partisanship. No sir!


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completely wrong. you’re not familiar with that expression, you’ve never seen that flag? it’s literally an expression of freedom.

google the Gadsden flag for gods sake. it’s very well known. it’s literally a symbol of liberty and freedom.

next you’ll deny the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty.

Get SOME FACTS before you go on a stupid rant.

but no, you aren’t motivated by partisanship. No sir!


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Jim I know the flag and I also know who flys it. And why and it’s not about freedom

Your so deep in denial it’s not healthy


Gone is the original intent to unite the states to fight an outside oppressor. Instead, for those who fly it today, the government is the oppressor.

Tell me I am wrong
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Jim I know the flag and I also know who flys it. And why and it’s not about freedom

Your so deep in denial it’s not healthy


Gone is the original intent to unite the states to fight an outside oppressor. Instead, for those who fly it today, the government is the oppressor.

Tell me I am wrong
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you’re wrong. stupidly wrong.

People who live in florida don’t feel oppressed. Huge numbers of people
and businesses aren’t moving there because they want to be oppressed. The state is becoming literally synonymous with “freedom”.

you hate desantis, and he scares you. we get it.

You’re wrong.

Florida doesn’t want new yorkers to move there, and then keep voting liberal. there’s a good reason why floridians don’t want that.

And you have to be a very special
kind of stupid to move to FL for taxes, and then vote to make your new state look like the place you just fled.

That’s what he means.

Huge numbers of people
and businesses are moving there. He also enjoys strong approval ratings in a purple state, it’s not really a red state. That’s proof you’re wrong.

You’re wrong.
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Jim I know the flag and I also know who flys it. And why and it’s not about freedom

Your so deep in denial it’s not healthy


Gone is the original intent to unite the states to fight an outside oppressor. Instead, for those who fly it today, the government is the oppressor.

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many times you say the gop wants a big federal government. now you’re criticizing the gop for wanting to be free from feds. which is it?

talk about wanting to have it both ways!


wayne, the gop can be a bunch of fascists who want to impose their will on everyone through federal law. you’ve said they want to take over the federal government and impounded sharia law in the rest of us.

or they can be a bunch of anti-federal government looks who say that washington DC is the enemy.

They can’t be both! How can they be both?

But no, you’re not just saying these things because of partisanship.


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many times you say the gop wants a big federal government. now you’re criticizing the gop for wanting to be free from feds. which is it?

talk about wanting to have it both ways!


wayne, the gop can be a bunch of fascists who want to impose their will on everyone through federal law. you’ve said they want to take over the federal government and impounded sharia law in the rest of us.

or they can be a bunch of anti-federal government looks who say that washington DC is the enemy.

They can’t be both! How can they be both?

But no, you’re not just saying these things because of partisanship.


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Yep keep ignoring what’s happening right in front of your nose ears and eyes

The Republicans you refer do not exist . In the House maybe a few in the senate

And keep thinking that flags is being used against big government

They want no government unless it’s their version. Freedom for me not for thee that’s their objective and Trumps willing to burn down the Us government if it gets him off the hook and promotes his and their victim hood
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Another truth teller gets punished by the Maga base

Herrera Beutler said, in part, “I’m proud that I always told the truth, stuck to my principles, and did what I knew to be best for our country.”

Herrera Beutler, who served six terms in Congress, voted to impeach Donald Trump last year.

Trump retaliated by endorsing Kent, a former Green Beret who has boosted the ex-president's lies about 2020 election fraud. Kent has also endorsed the racist "white replacement theory" and has tried to cast doubt on Washington state's vote-by-mail system.

That’s the new gop
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Yep keep ignoring what’s happening right in front of your nose ears and eyes

The Republicans you refer do not exist . In the House maybe a few in the senate

And keep thinking that flags is being used against big government

They want no government unless it’s their version. Freedom for me not for thee that’s their objective and Trumps willing to burn down the Us government if it gets him off the hook and promotes his and their victim hood
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so democrats don’t bend government to do what they want, when they’re in power. only republicans. gotcha.
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Another truth teller gets punished by the Maga base

Herrera Beutler said, in part, “I’m proud that I always told the truth, stuck to my principles, and did what I knew to be best for our country.”

Herrera Beutler, who served six terms in Congress, voted to impeach Donald Trump last year.

Trump retaliated by endorsing Kent, a former Green Beret who has boosted the ex-president's lies about 2020 election fraud. Kent has also endorsed the racist "white replacement theory" and has tried to cast doubt on Washington state's vote-by-mail system.

That’s the new gop
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“freedoms for me and not for thee”

so when liberals push for gun control while hiding behind private security…

when liberals deny school choice while sending their own kids to private school…

when liberals enforce covid lockdowns while they travel wherever they fee like going, and take their masks off whenever convenient…

when liberals go berserk over climate change but own multiple homes and fly in private jets…

none of those are “freedoms for me but not for thee.”?
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“freedoms for me and not for thee”

so when liberals push for gun control while hiding behind private security…

when liberals deny school choice while sending their own kids to private school…

when liberals enforce covid lockdowns while they travel wherever they fee like going, and take their masks off whenever convenient…

when liberals go berserk over climate change but own multiple homes and fly in private jets…

none of those are “freedoms for me but not for thee.”?
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Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want ! With only the restrictions I agree with. Society can go to hell.

Yep that’s not freedom it’s selfishness .

your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things

Like I said denial


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So the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people, the RNC memo went out and the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI in service to a life long con artist who was impeached twice and lost them the White House and Senate.
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So the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people, the RNC memo went out and the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI in service to a life long con artist who was impeached twice and lost them the White House and Senate.
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"so the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people"

Yes, by giving people what they actually want, instead of telling people that you know better than they do, what's good for them...

"the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI"

Ignoring the Trump raid (which may have been a totally valid raid, or it may have been a political hit job, neither one of us knows yet), the FBI is doing this to themselves. They lied to go after Carter Page, they lied to cover up the Hunter Biden "investigation" (if that's the right word), they're using heavily armed SWAT teams to arrest conservative senior citizens in the middle of the night, AFTER tipping off CNN to get it on TV...this isn't what the FBI is supposed to be...

"lost them the White House and Senate"

Yet you'd NEVER claim that Obama/Hilary "lost" the senate and house to the GOP in 2016. Why is that? The GOP is in far better shape right now than the democrats were after 2016, yet you say today the GOP is dead but you'd never claim the democrats were dead after 2016. Why such a obvious double standard?

Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want ! With only the restrictions I agree with. Society can go to hell.

Yep that’s not freedom it’s selfishness .

your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things

Like I said denial


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"Jim’s freedom definition

I should be able to do what I want when I want !"

Funny, isn't that the entire pro-abortion position, in one poorly constructed sentence?

"Society can go to hell. "

If the conservative view of freedom is "hell-ish", please explain why so many people and businesses are moving to red states? They're all masochists?

"your simplifying examples . of course only liberals do those things"

You're lying again. I never said "only liberals" do those things. I concede conservatives can be greedy and dishonest and hypocritical, I've said that 1,000 times. I listed those examples because you are the absolutist who will never admit democrats do those things.

"Like I said denial "

How am I in denial, when I admit that conservatives are guilty of every sin known to man? The one denying facts is you, when you deny that liberals are similarly flawed. I provided irrefutable examples of their hypocrisy. But you, the one in denial, will never admit it.

Make that wrong. Go ahead and admit that liberals, being human,. are flawed as well. You'll never admit it, you can't. Because you don't merely believe in liberalism, you are a slave to it.

Why not set aside the "conservatives are evil, liberals are noble" bullsh8t and talk honestly about policies, results, and what Americans actually want?

"so the cult has figured out how to win friends and influence people"

Yes, by giving people what they actually want, instead of telling people that you know better than they do, what's good for them...

"the talking point of a major political party claiming to be for law and order, is to attempt to destroy the FBI"

Ignoring the Trump raid (which may have been a totally valid raid, or it may have been a political hit job, neither one of us knows yet), the FBI is doing this to themselves. They lied to go after Carter Page, they lied to cover up the Hunter Biden "investigation" (if that's the right word), they're using heavily armed SWAT teams to arrest conservative senior citizens in the middle of the night, AFTER tipping off CNN to get it on TV...this isn't what the FBI is supposed to be...

"lost them the White House and Senate"

Yet you'd NEVER claim that Obama/Hilary "lost" the senate and house to the GOP in 2016. Why is that? The GOP is in far better shape right now than the democrats were after 2016, yet you say today the GOP is dead but you'd never claim the democrats were dead after 2016. Why such a obvious double standard?

The poor victim never misses a right wing trope and as a Trump supporter obviously has no standards.

The Cult’s reaction to the search of Trump’s hotel reflects the belief that certain categories of people are subject to the law and it’s enforcement and abuses and others, like Trump, exempt from it entirely.

This is also why cult members argue that executing a warrant on a Republican is tyranny, but shooting unarmed civilians, abusing suspects in police custody, or brutalizing left wing protesters are all virtuous actions that should be rewarded.

As someone else said
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
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I think Jim will need help or alcohol to get over this deep state raid on the GOP savior and whataboutism is going to run rampant now. Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim.

Was this Jim?
Outside Mar-a-Lago, a concerned citizen wants to know why the FBI isn’t doing anything about Hillary’s emails or Hunter’s laptop.
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I think Jim will need help or alcohol to get over this deep state raid on the GOP savior and whataboutism is going to run rampant now. Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim.

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again. So from that, please tell me why I'd be shaken if that's what happens? I'm really curious what I've said, that would make you think my sanity depends on Trump remaining the GOP savior?

Tell me what about this you don't get?

I want him gone, he served his purpose (nobody else had a prayer against Hilary, nobody). but it's time for him to go away and let an adult run as a Republican.

Is that too complicated for you?

"Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim"

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug. If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again.

.

I don't want trump to run...you'd think the dems would be thrilled for him to run based on all their bloviating...but they seem terrified of him for some reason....

Was this Jim?
Outside Mar-a-Lago, a concerned citizen wants to know why the FBI isn’t doing anything about Hillary’s emails or Hunter’s laptop.
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it's a valid question....

it's a valid question....

the current fbi director says it’s concerning. but it’s ok if he says it. not ok if i say it.
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If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.



this will be fabulous fun....

this will be fabulous fun....

the democrats do these things ( like only requiring 52 votes to confirm a judge), thinking that they will
never be in the minority, never be in the receiving end.
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Well, I've said he's dirty and I really hope they find enough on him so that he never runs again. So from that, please tell me why I'd be shaken if that's what happens? I'm really curious what I've said, that would make you think my sanity depends on Trump remaining the GOP savior?

Tell me what about this you don't get?

I want him gone, he served his purpose (nobody else had a prayer against Hilary, nobody). but it's time for him to go away and let an adult run as a Republican.

Is that too complicated for you?

"Break out the but Hilary and Hunter playbook Jim"

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug. If the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug.

Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug.

And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed. Feelings aren’t evidence


the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Of course they will. But not for legitimate reasons of course . Or to support the rule of law
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Wayne they don’t pass legislation that helps the average American, so they will need something to do.

Define “Average American”?
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Americans have finally woken up and stopped focusing on what MSM talking heads & policy wonks were saying and discovered real people are damned upset about Roe, mass shootings, January 6th, the Big Lie, the assault on public schools and Republicans extremism in general.

Media blamed Biden for

…the formula shortage that wasn’t his fault. But won’t give him credit for fixing it.

…gas prices that weren’t his fault. But won’t give him credit that they’ve gone down.

…inflation that wasn’t his fault. But won’t give him credit that it’s stemmed.

And Trumplicans think stealing classified documents is a winner?
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The FBI director, not me, said it was very concerning the way they swept the Hunter Biden thing under the rug.

Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug.

And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed. Feelings aren’t evidence


the GOP takes the house, it will be their turn to conduct hearings and to engage in impeachments. And they will.

Of course they will. But not for legitimate reasons of course . Or to support the rule of law
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"Who swept it under the rug ? The media!

He’s the Current FBI director are you suggesting he’s swept it under the Rug. "

I posted a link, which unfortunately you didn't have someone read to you. The FBI director said it's "very concerning" to him the way it was suppressed. Those are his words, not mine, and I bet he knows almost as much about what happened, as you do.

"And yet you can’t prove a crime was even committed"

Well, when they refuse to investigate, isn't it kind of hard to prove anything? Carter Page was never charged with anything, that didn't stop the same FBI from lying to a FISA court to get a warrant to spy on him. But Hunter is untouchable. For now.

Wayne they don’t pass legislation that helps the average American, so they will need something to do.

Yet in the Gallup poll taken in the summer of 2020 (during the height of the pandemic), a record number of Americans said they were better off after 4 years of Trump. According to Gallup - Trumps 56% who said they were better off was "easily the highest Gallup has recorded among comparable points in previous incumbents' presidencies."

Lemme guess - Obama's policies were the reasons why so many said they were better off in 2020 than in 2016.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-donald-trump-better-off-1621962

the current fbi director says it’s concerning. but it’s ok if he says it. not ok if i say it.
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You’re confusing his remarks.

You’re confusing his remarks.

clarify them for me please?
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According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.

6.5 million new jobs -528k in July
Unemployment 3.5% -- 50-year low
Covid Relief Deal
Infrastructure Investment & Jobs Act
Inflation Reduction Act (includes major climate action)
1st Major gun safety law
-Zawahiri killed
-CHIPS Act passes
-PACT Act passes
-Gas hits 50+ day low
U.S. Federal deficit decreased by 30% in July to $211 billion.
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clarify them for me please?
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You can use the google. He looked to be commenting on an agent who was making some social media posts that he didn’t like but had nothing to do specifically with Hunter Biden.

You can use the google. He looked to be commenting on an agent who was making some social media posts that he didn’t like but had nothing to do specifically with Hunter Biden.

Ah. donuts your interpretation of his comments, as opposed to his explicit comments, that would suggest i was confused. And we are all shocked that your interpretation of his comments, has a pro hunter biden result. No one saw that coming.

If the gop takes the house ( more of an if than i’d have thought), we will
see. No matter what facts get revealed,, we all look forward to your creative spin and denial.
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You can use the google. He looked to be commenting on an agent who was making some social media posts that he didn’t like but had nothing to do specifically with Hunter Biden.

Wray: “when i read the letter that describes the kinds of things you’re talking about, i found it deeply troubling.”

Things, plural.

the letter includes claims of the FBIs social media posts and allegations they buried the Hunter Biden affair.

Yup, i’m the one who is confused.
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Wray: “when i read the letter that describes the kinds of things you’re talking about, i found it deeply troubling.”

Things, plural.

the letter includes claims of the FBIs social media posts and allegations they buried the Hunter Biden affair.

Yup, i’m the one who is confused.
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You’re correct, you’re confused.

Kennedy grilled Wray on Thibault’s alleged partisan actions on social media over the past few years, such as “liking” a Washington Post article titled “William Barr has gone rogue” and tweeting to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) that her father — former Vice President #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney — was a “disgrace.” Kennedy also mentioned Thibault’s retweet of a Lincoln Project post saying that “Donald Trump is a psychologically broken, embittered, and deeply unhappy man.”
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Back to the midterms

When you lose Fox “News”…

Steve Doocy confronts Minority Whip Rep. Steve Scalise: “Whatever happened to the Republican party backing the blue?”
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Wray: “when i read the letter that describes the kinds of things you’re talking about, i found it deeply troubling.”

Things, plural.

the letter includes claims of the FBIs social media posts and allegations they buried the Hunter Biden affair.

Yup, i’m the one who is confused.
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Yet Wray who heads the FBI has done nothing public in the Hunter case why do you think that is.

Please don’t say Biden because Of Trump a sitting POTUS a an not be charged with a crime ( and Iam not saying ones been committed)

2 it’s called chain of custody. It’s a real thing. No court or judges are going to allow that laptop which has been handled by so many conservatives and Republicans Biden Haters it makes Jeffery Epstein look like an alter boy . And if they do any good defense lawyer will have a field day


Hunters investigation has entered its final stages, prosecutors have narrowed their focus to tax and gun-related charges, the people say.

Wow getting a gun No Republicans care about gun laws

And now Republicans care about Tax evasion Or just Hunters

Do you make $75,000 or less?” tweeted House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy. “Democrats’ new army of 87,000 IRS agents will be coming for you—with 710,000 new audits for Americans who earn less than $75k.” Richard Grenell, Trump’s former Acting Director of National Intelligence, wrote on the social media platform: “The FBI raids Trump’s house and the Democrats vote to add 87,000 new IRS agents to go after Americans. Wake up, America.”

But they won’t tell the Truth. They can’t

includes roughly $78 billion for the IRS to be phased in over 10 years. A Treasury Department report from May 2021 estimated that such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.
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Yet Wray who heads the FBI has done nothing public in the Hunter case why do you think that is.


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I bet if trump or one of his family members took video of themselves with guns, crack and hookers....they'd investigate....and we'd hear about it:D

Y

includes roughly $78 billion for the IRS to be phased in over 10 years. A Treasury Department report from May 2021 estimated that such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.
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I saw the ad for new agents...."willing to use deadly force" was a prerequisite in Dark Brandon's Enforcement Brigade

Today in the U.S., corporations will steal $137 million in wages, rich people will steal $2.75 billion in taxes, and 1,300 people will die from poverty, air pollution, and medical error. Think about who benefits from the news ignoring this and focusing on how the IRS will get you
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such an investment would enable the agency to hire roughly 87,000 employees by 2031. But most of those hires would not be Internal Revenue agents, and wouldn’t be new positions.

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what would they be then?

I bet if trump or one of his family members took video of themselves with guns, crack and hookers....they'd investigate....and we'd hear about it:D

You haven’t seen Don Jr and his honey, have you?
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Homeland Security watchdog delays probe — with GOP help

Joseph V. Cuffari and his staff have refused to release certain documents and tried to block interviews for a long-running probe that has evolved into more than a dozen allegations of misconduct.

Another witch or just more of the same GOP integrity
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what would they be then?

Now your playing dumb.

Classic, you think the IRS is made up of only of agents.
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You’re correct, you’re confused.

Kennedy grilled Wray on Thibault’s alleged partisan actions on social media over the past few years, such as “liking” a Washington Post article titled “William Barr has gone rogue” and tweeting to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) that her father — former Vice President #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney — was a “disgrace.” Kennedy also mentioned Thibault’s retweet of a Lincoln Project post saying that “Donald Trump is a psychologically broken, embittered, and deeply unhappy man.”
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Kennedy grilled Wray for the FBI agents social media posts, AND for the allegation that the same agent didn't want to look into Hunter. 2 things. And Wray referenced things that were deeply troubling to him.

The "s" at the end of "things", means plural.

Now your playing dumb.

Classic, you think the IRS is made up of only of agents.
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$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 83,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty close

https://amp.comparably.com/salaries/salaries-for-irs-agent-internal-revenue-service-agent


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs-audit-rates-taxes-inflation-reduction-act/

“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”

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I saw the ad for new agents...."willing to use deadly force" was a prerequisite in Dark Brandon's Enforcement Brigade

Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.

Last time I checked The IRS Criminal Investigation special agent job

Is not a generic IRS agent. But again more conservatives 1/2 truths

But of course you have no issues with cops use if deadly force. Even against the unarmed ..

But but the IRS
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$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 89,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty accurate

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs-audit-rates-taxes-inflation-reduction-act/

“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”

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So you show up again peddling 1/2 truths like your buddy shocking

In your own provided link

The department estimated in a 2021 report that the funding may cover about 87,000 employees, which has been widely reported. However, these hires may include a range of positions, such as auditors, customer service and IT workers, the Treasury clarified in a statement to CNBC on Wednesday.


Let me guess you missed that part
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Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.

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whatever tickles your little brain....

So you show up again peddling 1/2 truths like your buddy shocking


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you and pete should share a therapist...

Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.


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how would you go about demonstrating that you’re not in a cult? for the 1,000th time, can you list some big policy issues in which you agree with conservatives? or do you ( despite NOT being in a cult) think liberals are correct on every single, solitary issue?

you said republicans want a brutal fascist big federal government to impose sharia law. 5 minutes later you said they want no rules so that it’s every man for himself

but you’re not in a cult.
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how would you go about demonstrating that you’re not in a cult?

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it's just how he argues...he has to first tell you that you are a deranged misinformed pos then he recites stuff he read on leftwingloon.com:shocked:

Now your playing dumb.


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at least I'm only playing :hihi:

Why do I f***ing try :wall:
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at least I'm only playing :hihi:

I swear he’s got an extra chromosome
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such children

Whom think the FBI plant’s evidence is the enemy of the avg America [ code for conservatives) and the IRS are Hiring 89 thousand hit men over 10 years to take out and Harrass who’s ever left! Because the internet told them so !

And of course The 3 amigos can’t or don’t understand using the term cult is a metaphor. Like SNOWFLAKE

Enjoy your T shirts
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such children

Whom think the FBI plant’s evidence is the enemy of the avg America [ code for conservatives)
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your high school english teacher just checked himself into rehab.

i mean, i make a LOT of typos, way too many, but that’s some fine lefty gibberish right there.

i don’t think the FBI is the enemy, but i don’t deny that there’s evidence that the left has occasionally used the DOJ as a weapon against political
opponents. Kind of hard to deny that.


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your high school english teacher just checked himself into rehab.

i mean, i make a LOT of typos, way too many, but that’s some fine lefty gibberish right there.

i don’t think the FBI is the enemy, but i don’t deny that there’s evidence that the left has occasionally used the DOJ as a weapon against political
opponents. Kind of hard to deny that.


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No Jim it’s not hard to deny your delusional views
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The Democrats are not increasing the IRS because they think they're going to be audited ... They're increasing the size of the IRS so they can use it as a political weapon against conservatives," Clyde said.

"[The beefed-up IRS] will become more weaponized ... more militaristic," said Clyde, alluding to an alleged IRS job posting in which some applicants might be expected to carry firearms, potentially for citizen raids.


Maybe a friend of Scott and Dad ?
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$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 83,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty close

https://amp.comparably.com/salaries/salaries-for-irs-agent-internal-revenue-service-agent


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs-audit-rates-taxes-inflation-reduction-act/

“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”

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And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.

And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.

Yep, that and those positions already vacant from past attrition. But the point of my post was breaking down the math for the agents as a whole. That and to show that a significant chunk of the money was for the hiring of agents.
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That and to show that a significant chunk of the money was for the hiring of agents.

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look for updated definitions of "raid" and "agents"

And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.

this all you need to know.....


CBS News

The Inflation Reduction Act would invest $370 billion in fighting climate change and $64 billion to lower costs for people with Affordable Care Act health plans. To pay for that, Democrats want the IRS to step up audits and enforcement efforts to collect billions that currently get lost in the so-called tax gap.

I’m confused are you against the government hiring to ensure taxes due are collected on time.

I’m confused are you against the government hiring to ensure taxes due are collected on time.

Don’t forget AOC owes 1600 bucks in back taxes they support going after her
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Don’t forget AOC owes 1600 bucks in back taxes they support going after her
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no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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What loophole, honestly curious
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What loophole, honestly curious
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something called the “carried interest loophole” which benefits private equity investors ( not a lot of poor people in that group). recent versions of the inflation reduction. bill included the elimination of that loophole to help pay for it. Sinema, who takes campaign donations from very wealthy private equity folks, had that elimination removed, thus preserving the loophole. The democrats passed the version of the bill which preserved that loophole

Have a good weekend TDF.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna42394
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no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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Clearly you have no concept of negotiation and no one every gets everything they want


Wow There are 3,841 Hedge Funds businesses in the US as of 2022




But again feel free to ignore everything else in the bill



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something called the “carried interest loophole” which benefits private equity investors ( not a lot of poor people in that group). recent versions of the inflation reduction. bill included the elimination of that loophole to help pay for it. Sinema, who takes campaign donations from very wealthy private equity folks, had that elimination removed, thus preserving the loophole. The democrats passed the version of the bill which preserved that loophole

Have a good weekend TDF.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna42394
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So are you admitting you don’t realize that sometimes you need to take things out in order to get a holdout vote you need to pass the bill so the majority passes? Of are you just running out of good talking points as this administration continues to pass good legislation that helps average Americans?

So are you admitting you don’t realize that sometimes you need to take things out in order to get a holdout vote you need to pass the bill so the majority passes? Of are you just running out of good talking points as this administration continues to pass good legislation that helps average Americans?

my god did you miss the point.

if democrats actually believed in making the rich pay their fair share, they wouldn’t have had to take it out. But they didn’t have the votes within their own party unless they took it out, which necessarily means the democrats as a whole don’t really believe what they claim to believe.

make that wrong.

the democrats quickly became the party of the billionaire class. wall
street leans very much to the left now. So can we just admit it.

i’m old
enough to remember when you guys criticized the right for being the party of the rich. but today it’s a good thing to be the party of the rich? why is that?
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According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.

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they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers

my god did you miss the point.

if democrats actually believed in making the rich pay their fair share, they wouldn’t have had to take it out. But they didn’t have the votes within their own party unless they took it out, which necessarily means the democrats as a whole don’t really believe what they claim to believe.

make that wrong.

the democrats quickly became the party of the billionaire class. wall
street leans very much to the left now. So can we just admit it.

i’m old
enough to remember when you guys criticized the right for being the party of the rich. but today it’s a good thing to be the party of the rich? why is that?
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If the Dems like the Trumplicans only passed legislation that was strict party line, they could accomplish as little of value to the American people as the Trumplicans do.

When Republicans have power, they ban abortion, cut billionaires’ taxes and attack LGBT Americans. When Democrats have power, they add jobs, fund veteran care, bring manufacturing home, protect the climate and defend reproductive rights.

Which do you think is better for America?
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they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers

He’s working

With the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act in the House, families will see lower prescription drug prices, lower health care costs, and lower energy costs.
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If the Dems like the Trumplicans only passed legislation that was strict party line, they could accomplish as little of value to the American people as the Trumplicans do.

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Party-Line Vote Sends $740B Inflation Reduction Act To Biden


Inflation Reduction Act won’t curb inflation ‘over the short run,’ says economist

“Naming it ‘anti-inflation’ is a joke,” Kevin O’Leary, chairman of O’Shares ETFs and judge on CNBC’s “Money Court,” told CNBC’s Squawk Box on Monday. “This is going to be very inflationary almost immediately because we’re printing billions of dollars.”


NY Times 6 days ago — A Congressional Budget Office analysis found that the measure would have little effect on inflation this year.

CBS News
MONEYWATCH

One thing the Inflation Reduction Act may not do: Lower inflation
moneywatch
BY AIMEE PICCHI

Party-Line Vote Sends $740B Inflation Reduction Act To Biden


VoteVets Statement on Passage of the Inflation Reduction Act:

"This is a huge win for Veterans, Troops and America. We thank President Biden and Democrats in Congress - and we won’t forget the Republicans who voted against Veterans."

The official CBO score of the Inflation Reduction Act, including savings from tax enforcement, shows $305 billion in deficit reduction this decade. That includes deficit reduction in 2023 and 2024 – which will help ease near-term inflationary pressures.

Passage of the Inflation Reduction Act will make Biden one of the most legislatively successful presidents of the modern era.

— American Recovery Act
— Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
— Chips and Science Act
— Inflation Reduction Act

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Passage of the Inflation Reduction Act will make Biden one of the most legislatively successful presidents of the modern era.


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Polls show that even his own party has very little confidence in him.

Polls show that even his own party has very little confidence in him.

I’ll give you a hint

I will not support ANY Republican who voted for Trump in 2020. That’s virtually EVERY Republican, including DeSantis. So I may never vote Republican again. Our ONLY job now is to defeat this authoritarian party. That means vote Democrat.
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That’s not happening
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Both parties are committing hara kiri by continuing to blindly support their most recent presidential office holders.... They both must go on to never being viably electable or even listed on a ballot.

For the first time since last November, Democrats have taken the lead over Republicans in the FiveThirtyEight generic congressional polling average, 43.8% to 43.5%.
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In 1776, 1/3 of Colonists opposed independence.

In 1860, 1/3 of Americans believed owning other human beings based on the color of their skin was acceptable.

Trump Cult members, like their predecessors, are on wrong side of history and will be swept away accordingly.
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Trump’s most popular campaign promises *during the GOP primary* were 1) Medicare negotiating drug prices 2) Infrastructure 3) Having the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes.

Trump accomplished none of them. If the Inflation Reduction Act passes, Biden will have passed all 3.
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Polls show that even his own party has very little confidence in him.

come on, you don’t think biden is going on mount rushmore?
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Both parties are committing hara kiri by continuing to blindly support their most recent presidential office holders.... They both must go on to never being viably electable or even listed on a ballot.

X2 !
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X2 !
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X3

X3

x4
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x4
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x5+infinity
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Biden needs to be in a dementia ward and trump needs to be in solitary confinement.
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Biden needs to be in a dementia ward and trump needs to be in solitary confinement.
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Joe did what he was intended to do he got Trump out of office

Now he should man up take a Bow
And ride off into the Sunset…

While he can .
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Joe did what he was intended to do he got Trump out of office

Now he should man up take a Bow
And ride off into the Sunset…

While he can .
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pete said he's accomplishing more than any president ever....why do you want him to leave?

Don’t panic boys, he has no intention of establishing a dynasty.
Unlike TFG
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this is quite a contrast...

Nebe =Biden needs to be in a dementia ward

Pete F.=Don’t panic boys, he has no intention of establishing a dynasty.

New Fox poll shows men moved +2D since May. But Dads moved +28.

May August DIFF
Men +13R +11R +2D
Dads +20R +8D +28D

Apparently fathers listen to daughters
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pete said he's accomplishing more than any president ever....why do you want him to leave?

They are . But regardless of his accomplishments

We don’t need an 82 year old POTUS

Or a 78 year old wannabe dictator
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a team of computer experts directed by lawyers allied with President Donald Trump copied sensitive data from election systems in Georgia as part of a secretive, multistate effort to access voting equipment that was broader, more organized and more successful than previously reported, according to emails and other records obtained by The Washington Post.

The records show how Powell’s group discussed, exchanged and paid for elections-system data.

Yep the ones complaining about election security are the ones doing it and illegally paying for and copying of records

Shocking
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In Missouri, schools drop to 4 days, drop bus service, Medicaid wait times are astronomical, bridges are crumbling, poverty is in abundance, gun violence is rampant…

The Missouri GOP Senate majority leader states that 2023 priorities are CRT & trans youth. Completely out of touch.

Cue Jim
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Glendale Missouri is better than Cheshire Conn.

a team of computer experts directed by lawyers allied with President Donald Trump copied sensitive data from election systems in Georgia as part of a secretive, multistate effort
Shocking

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this is terrible, have they been arrested?

New University of North Florida Poll

Val Demings: 48%
Marco Rubio: 44%
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Party-Line Vote Sends $740B Inflation Reduction Act To Biden


Inflation Reduction Act won’t curb inflation ‘over the short run,’ says economist

“Naming it ‘anti-inflation’ is a joke,” Kevin O’Leary, chairman of O’Shares ETFs and judge on CNBC’s “Money Court,” told CNBC’s Squawk Box on Monday. “This is going to be very inflationary almost immediately because we’re printing billions of dollars.”


NY Times 6 days ago — A Congressional Budget Office analysis found that the measure would have little effect on inflation this year.

CBS News
MONEYWATCH

One thing the Inflation Reduction Act may not do: Lower inflation
moneywatch
BY AIMEE PICCHI

You probably also think you can easily change the course of cargo ships.

You probably also think you can easily change the course of cargo ships.

no...there is nothing in the legislation that will reduce inflation...that's has become widely evident...but it's a great name for the legislation:huh:

no...there is nothing in the legislation that will reduce inflation...that's has become widely evident...but it's a great name for the legislation:huh:

The bill will make small steps to help bring inflation back to normal levels, said Shai Akabas, the director of economic policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center.

"It will generally work in the right direction and help the Federal Reserve, which has the primary responsibility for getting a hold of inflation," Akabas said.

ECONOMY
What's causing inflation
There are three main ways the bill targets rising prices, according to Akabas. First, it plans to reduce the federal deficit, which is the difference between how much the U.S. government spends and how much it makes in taxes and revenue. When there's less money floating in the economy, there tends to be less demand and fewer price hikes, Akabas said.

Because there are several provisions to encourage spending in the bill, the net impact on inflation is unclear.

Second, it will promote the production of certain goods, mainly in renewable energy. Having more supply than demand could help lower some costs over time, he added.

Third and more directly, one provision of the bill will help limit the price growth of certain prescription drugs by allowing Medicare to negotiate their cost with pharmaceutical companies. Still, some of the biggest drivers of inflation, including food and energy costs, are not immediately addressed.

that's an opinion...good job

You can say that about anything- Good job

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The bill will make small steps.....

It will generally work in the right direction ......

the net impact on inflation is unclear.

could help lower some costs over time

Still, some of the biggest drivers of inflation, including food and energy costs, are not immediately addressed.

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The bill will make small steps.....

It will generally work in the right direction ......

the net impact on inflation is unclear.

could help lower some costs over time

Still, some of the biggest drivers of inflation, including food and energy costs, are not immediately addressed.



C ...for effort

600 billion for an “Inflation Reduction Act” for which his source says will have an “unclear” net impact on inflation.
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Cool title though, huh
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600 billion for an “Inflation Reduction Act” for which his source says will have an “unclear” net impact on inflation.
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You are in the same boat Scott is in, only slow thinkers think there is anything that immediately impacts inflation, way to much corporate greed. Let’s just call your opinion out for what it is, democrats just don’t legislate the way your party likes, it’s to much for the average American and for their and their children s good down. Biden inherited a bad hand and he has delivered some really good work and continues to reduce our deficit. Republicans legislate for the upper class and just add to our deficit, while enabling the big corporations to continue to make obscene profits while Americans suffer.

You are in the same boat Scott is in, only slow thinkers think there is anything that immediately impacts inflation,

only a slow thinker would suggest either of us said there is anything that immediately impacts inflation

only a slow thinker would suggest either of us said there is anything that immediately impacts inflation

Funny that’s the message in both of you quoting other deep thinkers
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Let’s just call your opinion out for what it is, democrats just don’t legislate the way your party likes, it’s to much for the average American and for their and their children s good down.



deep thinker....

Funny that’s the message in both of you quoting other deep thinkers
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they, we and your quoted deep thinker all seem to think there is nothing it it that immediately impacts inflation

maybe they should draft a Corporate Greed Reduction Act and take care of this inflation :huh:

they, we and your quoted deep thinker all seem to think there is nothing it it that immediately impacts inflation

maybe they should draft a Corporate Greed Reduction Act and take care of this inflation :huh:

Maybe you should pay attention the minimum tax rate is a good start.

Maybe you should pay attention the minimum tax rate is a good start.

that'll probably work...

could also just change the definition of inflation...like everything else:btu:

Funny that’s the message in both of you quoting other deep thinkers
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Unless Scott spelled it out exactly

All he responses are clearly only informative . Not his opinions
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Unless Scott spelled it out exactly

All he responses are clearly only informative . Not his opinions

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if I quote someone, I use quotes or source and date to indicate it is the opinion of someone else, if it's my opinion, it's my opinion....it's not complicated


some of us just cut and paste with no attribution, ramble endlessly and incoherently in response to things nobody ever said ....

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The bill will make small steps.....

It will generally work in the right direction ......

the net impact on inflation is unclear.

could help lower some costs over time

Still, some of the biggest drivers of inflation, including food and energy costs, are not immediately addressed.


^^^ so once again..."THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT OF 2022" ^^^^

also.... expands the federal government, feeds federal money to democrat pet projects....this was just democrats desperate to spend a bunch of money before losing congress potentially

you guys better be weatherizing, driving electric vehicles, converting your home into an electric vehicle charging station and put solar panels on your roof so you can spend all of the extra money you will have as a result to help reduce inflation ...


"Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm confused millions of Americans this week when she claimed Democrats will fight inflation by providing “tax credits” for families to “weatherize their homes from climate change.”

“What, specifically, will the Inflation Reduction Act do to lower costs for Americans right now?” asked a host at CNN.

Biden Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm: “If you install an electric vehicle charging station in your home, you can also get a tax credit!”

Know Nothing Party: Quick, do something about inflation.
Not that something, nothing is better especially if it could affect climate change.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS View Post

The bill will make small steps.....

It will generally work in the right direction ......

the net impact on inflation is unclear.

could help lower some costs over time

Still, some of the biggest drivers of inflation, including food and energy costs, are not immediately addressed.


^^^ so once again..."THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT OF 2022" ^^^^

also.... expands the federal government, feeds federal money to democrat pet projects....this was just democrats desperate to spend a bunch of money before losing congress potentially

you guys better be weatherizing, driving electric vehicles, converting your home into an electric vehicle charging station and put solar panels on your roof so you can spend all of the extra money you will have as a result to help reduce inflation ...


"Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm confused millions of Americans this week when she claimed Democrats will fight inflation by providing “tax credits” for families to “weatherize their homes from climate change.”

“What, specifically, will the Inflation Reduction Act do to lower costs for Americans right now?” asked a host at CNN.

Biden Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm: “If you install an electric vehicle charging station in your home, you can also get a tax credit!”

scott, are you saying that if i put an EV charging station at my house, that WON’T lower the cost of food and groceries for middle class americans? how about if I put a wind turbine in my backyard, surely that will lower the cost of chicken back to where it was a year ago?
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scott, are you saying that if i put an EV charging station at my house, that WON’T lower the cost of food and groceries for middle class americans? how about if I put a wind turbine in my backyard, surely that will lower the cost of chicken back to where it was a year ago?
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you'd better not be riding around on lawn tractors, running CHAINSAWS...or gas leaf blowers...snow blowers, generators, using outboard engines...or eating any red meat....especially if cooked on a gas grill...

I wonder if our resident environmentalists are doing any of these nasty things?

CBO doesn't seem impressed with the INFLATION REDUCTION ACT :rotf2:

you'd better not be riding around on lawn tractors, running CHAINSAWS...or gas leaf blowers...snow blowers, generators, using outboard engines...or eating any red meat....especially if cooked on a gas grill...

I wonder if our resident environmentalists are doing any of these nasty things?

You really are reaching now, just because we feel globally everyone needs to take global warming serious, doesn’t mean we just sell everything we use and attempt to get the same performance out of an electric equivalent. If you knew anything about chainsaw carving, since I’m sure that on caps was directed at me, you would understand the serious drawback of electric saws. I sold my center console and peddle a kayak, do I get points for that? I’d love a good steak, but years back we gave up red meat, but that’s making me want a nice bone in rib-eye. Change is cumulative if everyone and countries need to take steps to cut back year by year, but snarky man thinks we can just swing over everything.

He doesn’t understand that change is incremental, probably has a landline and a flip phone.
Because who could imagine having cell service 25 years ago.
We used to put phone, cable jacks and them new fangled computer lines all over houses.
Now we ask where’s your router going😀
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Just to get out the vote

Republicans panic as the NBA announces that it will drive its millions of “woke” fans to the voting booth this November by holding “election-themed” games the day before Election Day — and cancel all Election Day games so that its fans can go vote.
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Plenty of take the environment seriously, some of just don’t think throwing tax dollars and Democrats at the problem is the route to fixing it. :hee:
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Plenty of take the environment seriously, some of just don’t think throwing tax dollars and Democrats at the problem is the route to fixing it. :hee:
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Then what this other Idea you claim exists?
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Then what this other Idea you claim exists?
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Look at you trying sooooooo hard to have me respond to something I didn’t say.

Shocking
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Plenty of take the environment seriously, some of just don’t think throwing tax dollars and Democrats at the problem is the route to fixing it. :hee:
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and some engage in constant virtue signaling about it but don't actually do much themselves....

do I get points for that?



it depends,

did you stop eating red meat over your concern that you were contributing to the destruction of the earth by eating red meat or due to your own health reasons.... or to end animal suffering?

did you go from outboard motor to kayak due to your concern over what fossil fuels are doing to the planet or for some other reason?

He doesn’t understand that change is incremental

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it's fun when you write things that are this idiotic .....

NY TIMES ‘Dark Brandon’ Rises, and Buoys Biden’s Beleaguered Faithful
Inside the White House, the vibe is shifting, even if the polls have not budged much.


see..they fixed his effed up eyes...some weird chit

Look at you trying sooooooo hard to have me respond to something I didn’t say.

Shocking
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some of just don’t think throwing tax dollars and Democrats at the problem is the route to fixing it.

Seems you like Scott say a lot then claim you said nothing

So if you know some don’t think a certain way . It isn’t hard to think you are one of the some . Or That you would at the very least have an idea on why these people to which you refer. Don’t think trowing tax dollars at the problem is a good idea ?
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so the MSM has begun mocking the democraps for passing an Inflation Reduction Act that won't reduce inflation...they are still happy it passed because they are hacks but it is at least acknowledgment that this was a complete lie and sham by the democraps...fun to see the deranged loon currently posing as president attacking republicans for not supporting the lie :bl:

it's fun when you write things that are this idiotic .....

Well, since you have decades of experience as one……
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so the MSM has begun mocking the democraps for passing an Inflation Reduction Act that won't reduce inflation...they are still happy it passed because they are hacks but it is at least acknowledgment that this was a complete lie and sham by the democraps...fun to see the deranged loon currently posing as president attacking republicans for not supporting the lie :bl:

After the bill was signed naturally, THEN even CNN admits the name of the bill was “a marketing ploy.”

kind of like saying the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation until biden won,, then they all
admitted it was legit.

it’s a joke. a complete joke.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-abc-cnn-realize-inflation-reduction-act-doesnt-reduce-inflation-after-bill-passed-marketing
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New Fox News Poll: Shift Towards Democratic Party Since May

Women: +7D
White Women: +8D
Nonwhite Women: +10D
Suburban Women: +9D
Men: +4D
Dads: +28D
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Mitch believes they may not take the senate . Their are still many closet Trumpers who hide and mask their devotion in daily life or excuse him with well he made my 401k go up . Or he gave me a tax cut. Who will happily vote out anyone who dares not kiss his ring .and vote in people who willingly lie and will via subversion to bend election outcomes in their favor.

And are in such denial they don’t think they are like the Trump supporters in the photo .

A vote for Trump or the candidates he endorsed is a vote for the demise of our democratic way of life .. no norms no rules .

But of course he and his GOP wannabes have already convinced his faithful. Their enemies are everywhere and anyone who’s not a Republican

Their are still many closet Trumpers who hide and mask their devotion in daily life or excuse him

A vote for Trump or the candidates he endorsed is a vote for the demise of our democratic way of life .. no norms no rules .



we should probably find and arrest these people and put them in reeducation camps :rolleyes:

First John Fetterman pulled out to a big lead. Then Raphael Warnock and Tim Ryan took leads in their races. Then Mandela Barnes and Val Demings pulled ahead. And now Cheri Beasley is in a tie in North Carolina.

So tell me again how Republicans are going to sweep the midterms?
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back the the original topic,,,if the election were today, o don’t think it’d be anything special for the gop. democrats taking in way, way more
money.
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In Texas, a county elections administrator and her two deputies have resigned, with at least one citing threats fueled by misinformation, as former President Donald Trump and his supporters continue to spread baseless claims about the 2020 election.
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Reported 70% of Texas teachers are considering quitting, Jim’s hero Ron gets slammed by federal judge as the anti 1st amendment governor, Tucker warning the democrats might do well in the mid terms and Mitch concerned about the lack of quality senate candidates, what is going on?

back the the original topic,,,if the election were today, o don’t think it’d be anything special for the gop. democrats taking in way, way more
money.
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If the election were today, it’s obvious to the majority of Americans that the attack on Social Security, voting, Medicare, healthcare and women’s rights by the Radical Trumplican party is unacceptable.
You’re delusional if you think Trump is not the party leader.
Who’s collecting all the money on the right?
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Reported 70% of Texas teachers are considering quitting,



this is really not surprising...there is no group of employees in the US that spends more time whining about how under appreciated they are, how underpaid they are, how hard they work(180 days a year) and how tough they have it....and they have unions that sow and support this notion and constantly brainwashing them how to think, who to vote for and constantly pressuring them to accept the latest notions from leftistwhackjob.org.....

this has been the case for a very long time....put a little stress on them like covid or overwhelm them with some of the stupidity in schools now and yeah, they will probably consider going off to do something else


VOX "The shortage is reportedly also dire in other states, including Nevada, California, Illinois, Arizona, and Missouri. Some experts say that even school districts that don’t usually face shortages are struggling with vacancies, and it’s hard to hire teachers even for subjects that are typically easy to fill."

this is really not surprising...there is no group of employees in the US that spends more time whining about how under appreciated they are, how underpaid they are, how hard they work(180 days a year) and how tough they have it....and they have unions that sow and support this notion and constantly brainwashing them how to think, who to vote for and constantly pressuring them to accept the latest notions from leftistwhackjob.org.....



Wonder why good teachers are leaving?

🤡
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It’s good to see Team McConnell (on background!) blaming NRSC chair Rick Scott for failures in Senate races, to see McCarthy-world (on background!) undermining possible rivals, to see Stefanik (on background!) attacking others as she seeks to move up, etc.

Fun times in the GOP!
When being a snake is a qualification to become a leader……
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this is really not surprising...there is no group of employees in the US that spends more time whining about how under appreciated they are, how underpaid they are, how hard they work(180 days a year) and how tough they have it....and they have unions that sow and support this notion and constantly brainwashing them how to think, who to vote for and constantly pressuring them to accept the latest notions from leftistwhackjob.org.....

this has been the case for a very long time....put a little stress on them like covid or overwhelm them with some of the stupidity in schools now and yeah, they will probably consider going off to do something else


VOX "The shortage is reportedly also dire in other states, including Nevada, California, Illinois, Arizona, and Missouri. Some experts say that even school districts that don’t usually face shortages are struggling with vacancies, and it’s hard to hire teachers even for subjects that are typically easy to fill."

they are the most entitled, most needy, most whiny group of people
you will ever come across. Which is too bad, because it’s such an important profession.

The union is a major obstacle
to improving education. And it’s a career that draws too many people
who are only enticed by summers off, amazing benefits, and unheard of job security. good teachers fee a calling to help kids, not a desire for summers off.

there are places where teachers are truly underpaid. CT ain’t one of them. You can’t drive 5 miles on the highway in CT without passing a billboard that says “we love teachers.”. what an unbelievable waste of money.
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Republican Attacks on Public Schools Never Die

Jim and Scott. The sheep who keep the narrative alive
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Republican want to privatize education because:
It
Education is a multibillion dollar market, and the private sector is eager to get its hands on those dollars.

Conservatives are devoted to the free market and believe that private is inherently superior to public.
Shrinking public education furthers the Republican Party goal of drastically reducing the public sector.


Privatization undermines teacher unions, a key base of support for the Democratic Party.

Privatization rhetoric can be used to woo African American and Latino voters to the Republican Party.


Non of the above is about improving education


Yep sounds about right. . Seeing Jim touting school choice a win for black family’s

In Indiana A majority of voucher students have not previously attended an Indiana public school.


Pence in 2013, has led to a shift in student demographics as well. White voucher students are up from 46 percent that first year to 60 percent today, and the share of black students has dropped from 24 percent to 12 percent. Recipients are also increasingly suburban and middle class. A third of students do not qualify for free or reduced-price meals.

Whites increased from 40 to 60% and blacks declined 24 to 12%.


For a full voucher, worth 90 percent of what a state would spend in a public school, a family of four can earn no more than $45,000 annually, but students whose parents earn up to $67,000 can still qualify for a half-voucher. And for children already in the program, their family income can rise to nearly $90,000 annually.

Yep that’s low income

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Jim and Scott. The sheep who keep the narrative alive
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liberal blind defense of everything on the left, never dies. not one syllable about why i’m wrong specifically, but in your mind i can’t be right because i’m a republican.

public schools in my town spend $19k per kid, and results are average.

catholic middle school in my town spends $5,500 per kid, smaller classes, superior results. teachers can go above and beyond for the students, because there no union telling them not to.

when i taught public school, one time there was an issue with fights in the hallway between classes. The principal asked teachers to stick their heads into the hallway to make sure there were no fights. just for the 5 minutes between periods.

The union got wind, sent us letters forbidding teachers from doing it unless the school
paid us more, because the 5 minutes between periods was a break time for us

Student safety was supposed to take a back seat. would never, ever happen in a catholic school. For nowhere near the same price

what other group needs billboards every 5 miles telling them how great they all are?
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liberal blind defense of everything on the left, never dies. not one syllable about why i’m wrong specifically, but in your mind i can’t be right because i’m a republican.

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Poor victim

What do you actually like about America? you hate the govt, have seething contempt for most of your fellow citizens, hate most institutions, and think the culture is degenerate.

What is left that you think is worth saving?
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Poor victim

What do you actually like about America? you hate the govt, have seething contempt for most of your fellow citizens, hate most institutions, and think the culture is degenerate.

What is left that you think is worth saving?
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america is the greatest, most generous, most free, nation in history. more economic opportunity then any nation in history. you’re the ones trying to fundamentally change it. why do you say i hate america when i’m the one trying to preserve it, you’re the one voting to radically change it? that’s pretty funny pete.

red america looks a lot more like america to me, then blue america. i’ve lived my entire life in the state of CT, i’ve seen what 40 years of pure, unchecked liberalism has done. I’ve seen it’s effects n the suburbs, in the cities, in the schools, and for families. It’s weird and destructive. it encourages fatherlessness. That’s more than enough reason for me to reject it, because the data is crystal
clear what happens when kids, especially boys, don’t have dads.

i have a wee wee. therefore i go
to the men’s room and i compete physically against other men. If we can’t agree on that ( and we can’t) there’s not much more to say.
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america is the greatest, most generous, most free, nation in history. more economic opportunity then any nation in history. you’re the ones trying to fundamentally change it. why do you say i hate america when i’m the one trying to preserve it, you’re the one voting to radically change it? that’s pretty funny pete.

red america looks a lot more like america to me, then blue america. i’ve lived my entire life in the state of CT, i’ve seen what 40 years of pure, unchecked liberalism has done. I’ve seen it’s effects n the suburbs, in the cities, in the schools, and for families. It’s weird and destructive. it encourages fatherlessness. That’s more than enough reason for me to reject it, because the data is crystal
clear what happens when kids, especially boys, don’t have dads.

i have a wee wee. therefore i go
to the men’s room and i compete physically against other men. If we can’t agree on that ( and we can’t) there’s not much more to say.
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A wee wee 👌🏻 🥱

Keep dreaming

https://filantropi.or.id/en/indonesia-returns-as-the-most-generous-country-in-the-world/

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-social-mobility-of-82-countries/

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS970US970&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALiCzsYnYiNV_68jSAAeMiugqQEV7x6Rzg:166101695 0392&q=Most+job+opportunities+countries+in+the+world&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjNyqyq-tX5AhURFmIAHSveCvEQ1QJ6BAhHEAE&biw=375&bih=541&dpr=2#sbfbu=1&pi=Most%20job%20opportunities%20countries%20in%20t he%20world

We’ve been through this before, red states have higher rates of divorce, look at the emerging evidence of child molestation in the evangelical churches, and listen to yourself.

Feed only those that look like us and pass a drug test

If you get hit, hit back harder

The rich and the powerful shall inherit the earth

If they are strangers, deport them

Give your money to those who are wealthy and already with privilege

Do not give them aid, for their country is a s$&@hole

You are a weak fearful excuse for a man like your heroes with BDE.



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pete is really feeling it...maybe he's drinking this weekend too!

pete is really feeling it...maybe he's drinking this weekend too!

Don’t tell us you also have a wee wee and compete physically in the mens room.

I don’t wanna know what kinda competition “conservatives” have in the mens room, just stay away from children.
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red america looks a lot more like america to me, then blue america


From the guy who’s never lived in a Red state.
claiming only real Americas live in red states ( but you’ll claim you didn’t say it )


Yep you’re in the cult completely radicalized

Clearly Jim you have no idea what it means to be an American .

Ps Being Angry 24x7 isn’t it
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The leftists are losing it….🤣
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red america looks a lot more like america to me, then blue america


From the guy who’s never lived in a Red state.
claiming only real Americas live in red states ( but you’ll claim you didn’t say it )


Yep you’re in the cult completely radicalized

Clearly Jim you have no idea what it means to be an American .

Ps Being Angry 24x7 isn’t it
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so it’s american to want to get rid of the electoral college, get rid of the fillibuster, pack the court, and otherwise constantly change the rules when you can’t always win with the current rules. that’s what’s american. gotcha.

it’s american for me to want to share a public bathroom with girls.
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The leftists are losing it….🤣
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they are, but it’s hard to not get the impression that they have all the momentum right now, unless every single speck of data is wrong.
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so it’s american to want to get rid of the electoral college, get rid of the fillibuster, pack the court, and otherwise constantly change the rules when you can’t always win with the current rules. that’s what’s american. gotcha.

it’s american for me to want to share a public bathroom with girls.
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Just as American as it is to want to keep the electoral college, selectively get rid of the filibuster, pack the court as McConnell did and ignore the rules as the former administration did (well the extent of that was unprecedented by far)

As far as your fear of women seeing your “wee” wee, you’re on your own.

https://youtu.be/bXPZd0LthLc
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Just as American as it is to want to keep the electoral college, selectively get rid of the filibuster, pack the court as McConnell did and ignore the rules as the former administration did (well the extent of that was unprecedented by far)

As far as your fear of women seeing your “wee” wee, you’re on your own.

https://youtu.be/bXPZd0LthLc
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the electoral college is in the constitution. i’d be very very interested to hear your explanation of why it’s un- american to support that which is in the constitution.

if you feel the need to expose yourself to young girls
who aren’t asking for a peek, that’s your issue Pete.

when did McConnell change the number of justices on the supreme court? i must have missed that.
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so it’s american to want to get rid of the electoral college, get rid of the fillibuster, pack the court, and otherwise constantly change the rules when you can’t always win with the current rules. that’s what’s american. gotcha.

it’s american for me to want to share a public bathroom with girls.
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I was responding to your comment

red america looks a lot more like america to me, then blue america


Shocking nothing in your response was in your original Comments.

Ps Jim the only ones changing the rules when the don’t win are Republicans. But don’t let actually facts and Truth. Cloud your version of actual events
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I was responding to your comment

red america looks a lot more like america to me, then blue america


Shocking nothing in your response was in your original Comments.

Ps Jim the only ones changing the rules when the don’t win are Republicans. But don’t let actually facts and Truth. Cloud your version of actual events

Yep you’re in the cult completely radicalized

Clearly Jim you have no idea what it means to be an American .

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fixed it...

Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

Only in Jim’s world these aren’t really REAL Americans. How could they be. It’s clear their against the constitution. Because they clearly see the electoral college has seen it’s time in the sun and with population growth and decades of Republicans gerrymandering it needs to get tweaked or just go into the trash bin of outdated ideas

But we know the only reason Republicans like the electoral college is it’s the only way they can win an election. It’s has nothing to do with love of the constitution

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/08/05/majority-of-americans-continue-to-favor-moving-away-from-electoral-college/
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Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

Only in Jim’s world these aren’t really REAL Americans. How could they be. It’s clear their against the constitution. Because they clearly see the electoral college has seen it’s time in the sun and with population growth and decades of Republicans gerrymandering it needs to get tweaked or just go into the trash bin of outdated ideas

But we know the only reason Republicans like the electoral college is it’s the only way they can win an election. It’s has nothing to do with love of the constitution

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/08/05/majority-of-americans-continue-to-favor-moving-away-from-electoral-college/
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then follow the prescribed steps to
amend the constitution, or live with it.

it’s not the only way republicans can win. but republicans have ( in the past few elections) done a better job of figuring out how to campaign effectively to reflect the realities of the electoral college. Hilary spent all
her time in NY and CA and ignored the midwest. Whose fault is that? If she’s too stupid to grasp what the electoral college does, she’s probably not smart enough to be potus

The GOP campaigns the way it does specifically because of electoral realities. democrats haven’t responded as well to electoral realities because elites don’t like the unwashed losers in flyover country.

all democrats have to do, to do better with the electoral college, is spend time in the middle of the country and make their case to those people. When all you do is hang with the swells on both coasts, you run the risk of losing because of electoral math.
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the electoral college is in the constitution. i’d be very very interested to hear your explanation of why it’s un- american to support that which is in the constitution.

if you feel the need to expose yourself to young girls
who aren’t asking for a peek, that’s your issue Pete.

when did McConnell change the number of justices on the supreme court? i must have missed that.
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Counting some people as 3/5ths of a person is in the original Constitution, are we now not allowed to amend the Constitution, or do you think Democrats have magical powers?

You don’t need to project your sick fantasies on me or anyone else. Every single human being goes to the bathroom, if you find it sexually exciting that’s on you.

McConnell played plenty of games within the rules and outside the conventional boundaries.

We have currently have two parties.

One is anti-democracy, anti-truth, and anti-rule of law.

The other is sometimes inept and foolish, with some fringe illiberal elements--but basically committed to the institutions and norms of liberal democracy and a free society.

It's not a tough choice.

then follow the prescribed steps to
amend the constitution, or live with it.

Seems Republicans should take your advice. And stop trying to steal elections via gerrymandering restrictions on voting voting in election deniers and actually trying to steal the last election.

Ps Congress may submit a proposed constitutional amendment to the states, if the proposed amendment language is approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses.

But we all ready know why republicans will all vote no
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Just saw an interview with chad wolf couldn’t admit Biden won the election fair and square

Then went on to say Americans don’t trust the election system.

No kidding thats whathappens when you and the POTUS lie 24x7 about election fraud So Republicans think the election was stolen

And Dem don’t Trust republicans as honest stewards of our national elections . Seeing their leader just actually tried to steal the election . And refuse to admit that’s what happened



He refused
To admit fraud played no part in Biden’s win

Y
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He refused
To admit fraud played no part in Biden’s win

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81,282,916 votes for the worst candidate in American presidential history....yeah, probably nothing to see there :rotf2:

maybe we should waterboard him until he admits what you want him to admit....I'm sure we could justify it under "threat to democracy" :)

81,282,916 votes for the worst candidate in American presidential history....yeah, probably nothing to see there :rotf2::)

74,223,369 for a dreadful incumbent POTUS candidate, so yea, just the choice between rock and hard place + a lot of anti-trump enthusiasm driving people to the polls....

driving people to the polls....



:doh:.....

74,223,369 for a dreadful incumbent POTUS candidate, so yea, just the choice between rock and hard place + a lot of anti-trump enthusiasm driving people to the polls....

trump is a dreadful
human being without question.

his policies? he broke the record in the pill gallup does every 4 years during presidential elections, where they ask americans if they feel better off after 4 years of the incumbent. In the summer of 2020, at the height of the pandemic, more
americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, than for
any other president in the history of the poll.

America hated trump. But they liked his policies. This is why the left hates and is terrified of Desantis. The upside of trump without the downside ( very few have trumps downside).
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trump is a dreadful
human being without question.


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if you think about it, it actually worked out pretty good,....if trump had won, democrats would still be burning down cities and destroying innocent people's lives in their anger....with dark brandon pulling out the most remarkable victory of all time...we just got a couple hours of mayhem at the Capitol

trump is a dreadful
human being without question.

his policies? he broke the record in the pill gallup does every 4 years during presidential elections, where they ask americans if they feel better off after 4 years of the incumbent. In the summer of 2020, at the height of the pandemic, more
americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, than for
any other president in the history of the poll.

America hated trump. But they liked his policies. This is why the left hates and is terrified of Desantis. The upside of trump without the downside ( very few have trumps downside).
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You are right. That poll stated that, but the same time, Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

Trump rode in on a wave of good stock market trends (which continued), good unemployment trends (which continued) and a host of other economic indicators. I think most Americans would say they were better off economically, but most also (correctly) probably didn't attribute to Trump.

81,282,916 votes for the worst candidate in American presidential history....yeah, probably nothing to see there :rotf2:

maybe we should waterboard him until he admits what you want him to admit....I'm sure we could justify it under "threat to democracy" :)

Wow you are farther down the rabbit hole than I thought. Seek help
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trump is a dreadful
human being without question.

his policies? he broke the record in the pill gallup does every 4 years during presidential elections, where they ask americans if they feel better off after 4 years of the incumbent. In the summer of 2020, at the height of the pandemic, more
americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, than for
any other president in the history of the poll.

America hated trump. But they liked his policies. This is why the left hates and is terrified of Desantis. The upside of trump without the downside ( very few have trumps downside).
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America hated trump. But they liked his policies.

No they didn’t just another right wing fantasy
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America hated trump. But they liked his policies.

No they didn’t just another right wing fantasy
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fine. then explain why he has the all-time record in that gallup poll. otherwise you have no idea why you’re saying what you’re saying.


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America hated trump. But they liked his policies.

No they didn’t just another right wing fantasy
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how long had liberals been asking for criminal justice reform? and why didn’t obama deliver it when the democrats controlled both the house and the senate?

It took Trump to do it. That was one policy i personally hated ( i don’t think high level drug dealers are ever non violent criminals), but he even delivered for the left. not that you could ever admit it.

he knew how to deliver. He’s just hard wired to be a vindictive, lying, narcissistic baby.
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Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

.

Pete, MSNBC,CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC,NPR,NYTIMES,WASHPO..etc...et c........
dedicated 24 hours a day/7days a week for I guess six plus years now telling America how and why to hate trump(some true, much untrue)......probably not reflected in any of the polls.....:huh::laugha:

practically a "cult" of hate.....

You are right. That poll stated that, but the same time, Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

Trump rode in on a wave of good stock market trends (which continued), good unemployment trends (which continued) and a host of other economic indicators. I think most Americans would say they were better off economically, but most also (correctly) probably didn't attribute to Trump.

correct. you’re proving my point, not refuting it. america liked his policies, they just hated him
personally.
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You are right. That poll stated that, but the same time, Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

Trump rode in on a wave of good stock market trends (which continued), good unemployment trends (which continued) and a host of other economic indicators. I think most Americans would say they were better off economically, but most also (correctly) probably didn't attribute to Trump.

ok. so trump didnt do anything different with the economy , he just sat back and rode the obama wave? THATS what you’re saying?

He didn’t cut personal taxes, annihilate corporate income taxes, eliminate what he thought were wasteful regulations, he didn’t fund economic opportunity zones in struggling urban areas, he didn’t incentivize companies to bring back massive sums of cash that were overseas? he didn’tdo any of that?

Et tu Bryan? Et tu? I thought you were the one single lefty here who was pretty honest, even about things that didn’t specifically serve your agenda.

Some scientist you are.

Here’s what happened. Trump obviously inherited a roaring economy. Then he did the things he did, which had the effect of pouring gasoline on the economic fire. Whether you happen to like it or not, that’s what happened. He did things very differently from obama, and it worked until we voluntarily chose to shut the economy down.

TDS claims another.
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ok. so trump didnt do anything different with the economy , he just sat back and rode the obama wave?

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this is accurate....and now Biden is doing all these great things that actually flowed from obama, somehow survived trump..... and now Americans are happier than ever again...lalalala....if we can just prevent the fascists from destroying our democracy:lasso:

He’s a pathological liar, according to Republican Ted Cruz.

He’s a fake, a fraud, and a con-man, according to Republican Mitt Romney.

He convinced 81 percent of white evangelical Christian voters to throw Jesus under the bus to vote for a man who bragged about grabbing women “by the pussy.”

He fired the acting Attorney General in a Monday Night Massacre because she determined that the president’s executive order on immigration was constitutionally indefensible.

He’s created an environment in which a southern white man can shut down a northeastern white woman while she’s reading from the floor of the Senate the cautionary words of a heroic southern black woman about a southern white man, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, who was deemed too racist to be a federal judge in 1986.

He disrespects duly-appointed, Senate-confirmed federal magistrates: “so-called judges.”

He’s offended our friends and allies, treating the Mexican and Australian governments in much the same way he’s treated John McCain and Megyn Kelly and a disabled reporter and Hillary Clinton and Ted Cruz and the Gold Star Khan Family and Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio and Rosie O’Donnell.

He hasn’t, as far as we know, paid federal income taxes in years, bragging that it’s smart on his part — meaning it’s dumb on our part to do so, thereby undermining citizen investment in shared governance. Nor has he released federal tax returns, as other presidential candidates have for the last 40 years.

His wife in New York City, his weekly trips to Mar-a-Lago, and his gallivanting children are costing us a fortune.

He’s sloppy with national security. Proof: Michael Flynn.

He’s given us a Secretary of Education who was born into and married into a billionaire family, has never attended a public school or taught in a public school, never taken out a student loan or applied for a Pell Grant, or even much supported our public schools.

He nominated a labor secretary (now withdrawn) who took advantage of an undocumented worker, pays his fast-food employees a #^&#^&#^&#^&ty wage, and wants to replace humans with robots because they don’t take vacation days.

He’s put together an administration of the wealthy, by the wealthy, and for the wealthy.

He’s not kept his campaign promise to release documents and even hold a press conference to prove that the third Mrs. Trump never worked in the US illegally. (We know she lied about having a college degree and — knowingly or not — plagiarized part of Michelle Obama’s DNC speech.)

He said he’d negotiate lower drug prices from pharmaceutical companies. Now he says he won’t — but will give big pharma tax breaks and lift certain regulations on their industry.

He turned the nomination of a Supreme Court justice into the finale of a prime-time reality-show.

He knows little about the history of the United States, about our constitutional system, or about our institutions of government.

He has left millions of Americans who acquired health insurance via the ACA worried sick that this great benefit will be stripped from them.

His closest advisers have added to the chaos of the first weeks of the new administration: Kellyanne Conway and her universe of “alternative facts” — like the Bowling Green Massacre; Steve Bannon, who wants to play war with our military; Stephen Miller, who yells at the American people that the president’s views “will not be questioned!”; and Sean Spicer, period.

He uses Twitter to harangue and berate and demean individuals and journalists and companies that question his infallibility.

He’s rattled and incoherent, unfit and unqualified and unstable.

He uses fear and anxiety to bring out the worst impulses that lurk just beneath the surface to pimp for votes and deepen the crevasse between his America and the rest of us.

He has not drained the swamp, as he promised. It’s deeper. It’s wider. It’s even more dangerous.

The Russians. The Russians. The Russians.

Conservative Republicans would have crucified our former philosopher-president, Barack Obama, for behavior that even resembled that of our schoolyard bully president, Donald Trump. Where is their outrage now? President Turmp is not making America great again. He’s making America ugly again. But Republicans, who created this president in their laboratory of anger and resentment, will use President Trump as long as he’ll sign his John Hancock to their legislation.

Et tu Bryan? Et tu? I thought you were the one single lefty here who was pretty honest, even about things that didn’t specifically serve your agenda.

Some scientist you are.

TDS claims another.
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I think this is why you don't have any friends on this site (maybe you can go fishing w/Scott).