As expected if the GOP wins the midterms here is their plan

The GOP lawmakers are getting set to look at a number of issues including Hunter Biden's business dealings, the southern border and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

and are already planning to expand their oversight goals beyond the administration and investigate the Democrats' formation of the Jan. 6 select committee and the origins of COVID-19,


Of course Jan 6th committee on the list ! as they more upset with those defending American democratic process Then they are with the man who tried to destroy it.

Revengeful cowards just feeding their gutless gullible base !

Absent from their list

Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…. But they can’t allow that to happen prior to a presidential elections ! For fear Democratic’s may be seen as the cause and get credit . So they will happily sit back and watch Americans suffer

What Trumplicans mean by “small government” is just that they want the federal (“big”) government to stop interfering with what state and local (“small”) government wants to do. They do not want fewer restrictions on liberties, they just want to be in charge of them.
But at the same time if they could get a federal abortion law or some other federal laws passed that they support, they would do it. As far as restrictions on liberties, they just want control of which liberty to restrict.
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But at the same time if they could get a federal abortion law or some other federal laws passed that they support, they would do it.
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So you felt the need to point out, that if the GOP wins, they will advocate for conservative ideals.

Did you come up with that all by yourself? Or did someone with a PhD in political science explain it to you?

The GOP is going to win the house. Senate will be much tougher because the democrats got very lucky with which 33 seats are up.

As expected if the GOP wins the midterms here is their plan

The GOP lawmakers are getting set to look at a number of issues including Hunter Biden's business dealings, the southern border and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

and are already planning to expand their oversight goals beyond the administration and investigate the Democrats' formation of the Jan. 6 select committee and the origins of COVID-19,


Of course Jan 6th committee on the list ! as they more upset with those defending American democratic process Then they are with the man who tried to destroy it.

Revengeful cowards just feeding their gutless gullible base !

Absent from their list

Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…. But they can’t allow that to happen prior to a presidential elections ! For fear Democratic’s may be seen as the cause and get credit . So they will happily sit back and watch Americans suffer

The GOP has no plan on gas?

Yes they do. Here it is. Drill, drill, drill.

"Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…"

If these are things that would benefit all Americans, and the democrats control the white house and congress, then why isn't the left doing anything to address those things?

Jim as usual is repeating what he hears and the GQP has no plan

Why drill when you can make as much or more without the risk?
Apparently he thinks corporations are either under the control of the government or stupid.

Investors have demanded that producers maintain capital discipline and grow volumes modestly. Returns have taken priority over growth. Up until recently, a producer planning to significantly grow production volumes would likely have been punished by investors. However, that sentiment may be changing with oil prices where they are and the potential need to replace Russian barrels on the global market.

The geopolitical situation and oil price level may give US producers a license to grow volumes more meaningfully. It takes time for producers to respond to prices, though, and the price signal was not strong enough for E&Ps to potentially veer from their plans for moderate growth until recently. Private producers have been able to ramp upstream activity more meaningfully given that they do not have to answer to a public investor base.”
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So you felt the need to point out, that if the GOP wins, they will advocate for conservative ideals.

Did you come up with that all by yourself? Or did someone with a PhD in political science explain it to you?

The GOP is going to win the house. Senate will be much tougher because the democrats got very lucky with which 33 seats are up.

The GQP will gladly take away all the gains Americans have made in the past 50 years.

Dems/Repubs for 50 years
Stock Market Return: R - 109%, Dem - 992%
Total jobs created: R - 24M, Dem - 42M
Income growth: R - 0.6%, Dem - 2.2%
GDP: R - 2.7%, Dem - 4.1%
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The GOP has no plan on gas?

Yes they do. Here it is. Drill, drill, drill.

"Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…"

If these are things that would benefit all Americans, and the democrats control the white house and congress, then why isn't the left doing anything to address those things?

Classic no sense response Drill Drill drill

So you still haven’t accepted government doesn’t control oil production . And private companies can drill to their hearts content

Like I said gullible
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Classic no sense response Drill Drill drill

So you still haven’t accepted government doesn’t control oil production . And private companies can drill to their hearts content

Like I said gullible
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pricing for gas is largely speculative. Meaning, if the market speculates a president will
drill like crazy, that will
push down prices.

I’m sure you know tons and tons about finance and economics.
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Classic no sense response Drill Drill drill

So you still haven’t accepted government doesn’t control oil production .
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the feds and the EPA play no role at all? What happened to the a keystone Pipeline, the private business decided on their own to shut it down?
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pricing for gas is largely speculative. Meaning, if the market speculates a president will
drill like crazy, that will
push down prices.



Maybe for crude oil.
Will the next POTUS mandate a drilling target? How about a requirement to use the previously allocated permits before they open some sensitive federal areas?
Limit exports of oil drilled in the US?
Increase refining capacity? That seems to be the bottleneck (down ~1 mil a day or so since COVID) on gas prices right now (and why prices for gas/diesel are higher compared to previous times oil/barrel was at a similar price point).

Exxon et al.,'s profits are pretty dandy right now. I don't see them making the investments in refining (and no, it isn't a call to make it state controlled energy)...

Not as easy as Jim would have you believe and I also believe oil from overseas is far easier to refine than our domestic oil.

Not as easy as Jim would have you believe and I also believe oil from overseas is far easier to refine than our domestic oil.

i didn’t say it was easy. But it’s not all Putin’s fault either, and america knows the administration is lying when they say it’s all putin’s fault.
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The GQP will gladly take away all the gains Americans have made in the past 50 years.

Dems/Repubs for 50 years
Stock Market Return: R - 109%, Dem - 992%
Total jobs created: R - 24M, Dem - 42M
Income growth: R - 0.6%, Dem - 2.2%
GDP: R - 2.7%, Dem - 4.1%
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this is why the bluest states have the lowest taxes yet all have big surpluses, right Pete?

Biden didn't create all these jobs. We reopened the economy after we chose to shut it down.

If Biden owns the drop in unemployment that happened on his watch, he also owns the changes in inflation, gas prices, crime, illegal border crossings on is watch.

Pete, you can't say he caused all the good things but bears zero responsibility for the bad things. Well, you can say it, the entire left says it...but America isn't buying it.

this is why the bluest states have the lowest taxes yet all have big surpluses, right Pete?

Biden didn't create all these jobs. We reopened the economy after we chose to shut it down.

If Biden owns the drop in unemployment that happened on his watch, he also owns the changes in inflation, gas prices, crime, illegal border crossings on is watch.

Pete, you can't say he caused all the good things but bears zero responsibility for the bad things. Well, you can say it, the entire left says it...but America isn't buying it.

I think you missed his point and since I know Pete is a research ninja, I will assume his figures for the past 50 years are somewhat accurate. You are talking a couple years, trends don't happen in a couple years, why not respond to the trend he pointed out?

You I'm certain can agree that had covid not happened and Trump still lost to Biden due to his POS moral compass, you couldn't predict how Biden might have faired. The flip side might also be true, but in light of Trumps rapid quest to hold onto power, I don't think this country (other than the cult members) would have done all that well.

Carry on gentlemen.

I think you missed his point and since I know Pete is a research ninja, I will assume his figures for the past 50 years are somewhat accurate. You are talking a couple years, trends don't happen in a couple years, why not respond to the trend he pointed out?

You I'm certain can agree that had covid not happened and Trump still lost to Biden due to his POS moral compass, you couldn't predict how Biden might have faired. The flip side might also be true, but in light of Trumps rapid quest to hold onto power, I don't think this country (other than the cult members) would have done all that well.

Carry on gentlemen.

if his stats were correct, blue states would be swimming in surpluses and republicans couldn’t get elected to any office.

you can assume he’s right all
day long.

Can you tell me by what logic you’d give biden credit for the drop in unemployment that he presided over, but claim he has no responsibility for the many awful things that he’s presided over?

i didnt miss any point. Look at the financial
health of blue states. And i don’t mean the financial health of the people who live there. I mean the financial health of the actual state.

Which states are people
fleeing, which states are they fleeing to?
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I think you missed his point and since I know Pete is a research ninja, I will assume his figures for the past 50 years are somewhat accurate. You are talking a couple years, trends don't happen in a couple years, why not respond to the trend he pointed out?

You I'm certain can agree that had covid not happened and Trump still lost to Biden due to his POS moral compass, you couldn't predict how Biden might have faired. The flip side might also be true, but in light of Trumps rapid quest to hold onto power, I don't think this country (other than the cult members) would have done all that well.

Carry on gentlemen.

i’ve said many times, regardless of who won in 2020, gas prices were going to go up, inflation was going to increase, and unemployment was going to drop like a rock.

The entire left is saying biden caused unemployment to drop and has no responsibility over anything that got worse. America ain’t buying it.

you say the country wouldn’t have done well if trump
won. Based on what? In 2020, a record
number of people
said they were better off after 4 years of trump, no other president scored as high, ever. Never. That means something, even if you happen to hate what it means.
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Red states have lower taxes but Blue states are better in almost every other category. I wonder how much worse off those red states would be in there wasn't a transfer of wealth from the blue states?

After the 2016 election, Mark Muro, the policy director of the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Project, found that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton won produced 64% of the country’s economic output, while the 2,584 counties Donald Trump won contributed just 36%. That was a significant jump from the 2000 election, when the blue-red county economic split was 54% to 46%. Muro dubbed this divide “high-output America” vs. “low-output America.”
Last year, after Biden defeated Trump, Muro looked again and found that the economic output divide has grown even more pronounced. The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.

Red states have lower taxes but Blue states are better in almost every other category. I wonder how much worse off those red states would be in there wasn't a transfer of wealth from the blue states?

After the 2016 election, Mark Muro, the policy director of the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Project, found that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton won produced 64% of the country’s economic output, while the 2,584 counties Donald Trump won contributed just 36%. That was a significant jump from the 2000 election, when the blue-red county economic split was 54% to 46%. Muro dubbed this divide “high-output America” vs. “low-output America.”
Last year, after Biden defeated Trump, Muro looked again and found that the economic output divide has grown even more pronounced. The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.

if blue states are better in ways that people actually cared about, people
would be moving to blue states instead of fleeing them.

You have self-serving theory. I have hard,,irrefutable, meaningful facts.

You’re right, the wealthy are almost all democrat now. That changed very quickly. When the wealthy were all conservative,,liberals said it was bad to cater to the rich. all of. sudden it’s a good thing.

Lower income working people
loved trump. Loved him. You obviously think that’s a bad thing. which seems elitist. but whatever.
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if blue states are better in ways that people actually cared about, people
would be moving to blue states instead of fleeing them.

You have self-serving theory. I have hard,,irrefutable, meaningful facts.

You’re right, the wealthy are almost all democrat now. That changed very quickly. When the wealthy were all conservative,,liberals said it was bad to cater to the rich. all of. sudden it’s a good thing.

Lower income working people
loved trump. Loved him. You obviously think that’s a bad thing. which seems elitist. but whatever.
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In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.

I think lower income people loved Trump bc he talked and acted like a foul mouthed goon who didn't care who he insulted. I guess that is elitist.

[QUOTE=PaulS;1229567]In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.

/QUOTE]

Maybe the are sick of elitists in skinny 👖
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In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.

I think lower income people loved Trump bc he talked and acted like a foul mouthed goon who didn't care who he insulted. I guess that is elitist.

Can’t debate Jim on that one, he has hung his hat on people moving in droves to red states. The problem is he just doesn’t understand it’s not about politics. I’d love to move to FL for half the year, it’s not about politics, tax rates, it’s about marine life, fishing, atmosphere and warmth in the winter. Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?

Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?

Montana is apparently experiencing large population growth.


Washington Post. Population booms are overwhelming schools in Montana
The rapid growth in and around Bozeman, Mont., threatens the reputation — and sustainability — of its public schools

By Neal Morton
May 13, 2022

The 2021 population estimates indicate that migration was by far the most significant population driver for Montana in the year following the 2020 census. Without it, Montana's population would have shrunk,

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Montana is apparently experiencing large population growth.


Washington Post. Population booms are overwhelming schools in Montana
The rapid growth in and around Bozeman, Mont., threatens the reputation — and sustainability — of its public schools

By Neal Morton
May 13, 2022

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Perfect place for you and Jim, check in once in a while and don’t freeze during the winter.

Perfect place for you and Jim, check in once in a while and don’t freeze during the winter.

Brilliant response….
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Brilliant response….
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What I should respond to your nonsense, suggesting a former president who might likely be charged, is going to become king forever? Only Trumpets or far right nuts believe that criminal could possibly run and win again, which are you?

What I should respond to your nonsense, suggesting a former president who might likely be charged, is going to become king forever? Only Trumpets or far right nuts believe that criminal could possibly run and win again, which are you?

more brilliance...:rolleyes:

Can’t debate Jim on that one, he has hung his hat on people moving in droves to red states. The problem is he just doesn’t understand it’s not about politics. I’d love to move to FL for half the year, it’s not about politics, tax rates, it’s about marine life, fishing, atmosphere and warmth in the winter. Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?

so it’s all the losers leaving red states. i’m sure that’s the case.

if it’s not politically related, how come no one lives to southern CA, which also has warmth and water?

I’ll wait for your response. Can’t wait.
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so it’s all the losers leaving red states.

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clearly...

so it’s all the losers leaving red states. i’m sure that’s the case.

if it’s not politically related, how come no one lives to southern CA, which also has warmth and water?

I’ll wait for your response. Can’t wait.
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Keep up the fantasy’s

The Government controls how much oil is pumped

And everyone moving to Florida because it’s political

And no one is moving to Southern California

You need to get out of your bubble it’s not healthy

Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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you know you are bad when...


A new poll conducted by SSRS and released yesterday by CNN puts Joe Biden’s approval rating at a dismal 38 per cent. To put that in perspective, the president’s numbers are worse than every other president since the second half of the 20th century, even clocking in one point lower than Donald Trump around July 2018.

Keep up the fantasy’s

The Government controls how much oil is pumped

And everyone moving to Florida because it’s political

And no one is moving to Southern California

You need to get out of your bubble it’s not healthy

Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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the government has some impact on oil. Every sane person knows this.

If people are only moving to FL because of the weather and water ( and not because of politics, which drives cost), why aren’t they moving to sourhern CA? are you saying they ARE moving to southern CA in big numbers?

Can’t even tell what you’re saying. We can only tell it’s gibberish.

You’re getting scared about 2022 and it shows.
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You’re getting scared about 2022 and it shows.

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and brandon would need a strong next couple of years...what are the chances :jester:

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-trump-2024-rematch-almost-certain-polls-indicate-different-result-1725961

older data showing that in 2016, population exodus cost CT 2.6B. this will
change as with covid, lots of rich Manhattanites moved in.

https://yankeeinstitute.org/2018/10/26/cato-study-finds-connecticut-lost-2-6-billion-to-out-migration-in-2016/
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and brandon would need a strong next couple of years...what are the chances :jester:

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-trump-2024-rematch-almost-certain-polls-indicate-different-result-1725961

zero. even if it gets better, people
will remember. The gop can win with a campaign slogan that’s two words…

“had enough?”

i can’t see Biden running again. I just can’t.

i’d like to see Desantis run against Newsom or Liz Warren or Pete Buttigieg. Freak show.

How come the democrats have no bench? None!
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Had enough?

Massive erosion of support for Republicans among seniors:
65+
May 37D - 62R
July 49D - 47R
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Had enough?

Massive erosion of support for Republicans among seniors:
65+
May 37D - 62R
July 49D - 47R
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did you, or Joe Scarborough just make this up to give yourselves some hope?:jester:....I hope you find comfort in this because there is none elsewhere :laugha:

Here’s the chance that a kid born in the bottom 20% of the income distribution eventually reaches the top 20%, depending on where they live.

Red states are not the land of opportunity.

https://inequality.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/SOTU_2015_economic-mobility.pdf
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Here’s the chance that a kid born in the bottom 20% of the income distribution eventually reaches the top 20%, depending on where they live.

Red states are not the land of opportunity.

https://inequality.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/SOTU_2015_economic-mobility.pdf
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Easy fix if you care about the people less fortunate than yourself - increase the taxes in those red states and improve the schools, infrastructure, etc. But then you can't claim your state is so good bc taxes aren't low (while still getting $ from the blue states that pay far more in taxes to the Fed than they get back).

Easy fix if you care about the people less fortunate than yourself - increase the taxes in those red states and improve the schools, infrastructure, etc. But then you can't claim your state is so good bc taxes aren't low (while still getting $ from the blue states that pay far more in taxes to the Fed than they get back).

that’s if you believe that spending money solves everything. hartford spends $19k to educate each kid, and the schools stink.

do t let facts get in the way.

there’s a reason why people are moving there. i know you all hate that reason, but facts don’t care whether or not you like those facts.

Yes, better bridges and roads will end poverty.

why oppose school choice if you claim to want to help these people?
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that’s if you believe that spending money solves everything. hartford spends $19k to educate each kid, and the schools stink.

do t let facts get in the way.

there’s a reason why people are moving there. i know you all hate that reason, but facts don’t care whether or not you like those facts.

Yes, better bridges and roads will end poverty.

why oppose school choice if you claim to want to help these people?
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You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.

You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.

i high end mercedes is better than a honda accord. but to many people, it’s not worth the extra cost.

i’m nothing close to a one trick pony. i care about taxes and what you get in return. that’s what most people care about. and many are deciding that blue states aren’t worth the cost.
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taxes AND what you get in return. not just taxes. i don’t always lol for cheapest price. But most people
look for the best value. cost is one part of value, not the only part.

If you can’t concede that cost and benefit are two different things, you have issues.

Not just taxes. Taxes, combines with an honest discussion of what one gets in return.

i high end mercedes is better than a honda accord. but to many people, it’s not worth the extra cost.

i’m nothing close to a one trick pony. i care about taxes and what you get in returnthat is what I said - you only care about taxes.. that’s what most people care about. and many are deciding that blue states aren’t worth the cost.
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Sure you are, you only name taxes as the reason people are leaving while ignoring other things. I agree people are leaving for lower taxes (and other reasons like weather) and many of them are the older folks who made their $ in the better blue states and have no need/care for the better schools, etc. in the blue states so the crappy schools in the red states don't matter to them. They can still get their gov. sponsored and funded health ins. no matter where they live.

Imagine how much worse those red states would be if there wasn't that transfer of many billions of blue state taxes to the poor red states every month.

You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.

paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they can’t build $600,000 houses fast enough, with the best public schools in the state.

NH has no income tax, no sales tax. Over 40 years, that’s over 200k in savings to many families. in my case it’s probably close to 300k.

What am i getting in CT, that i wouldn’t get if i lived in NH? What’s the state of CT doing for me that’s worth $300k more than what is get i. NH?

The university of NH is cheaper than UCONN as well.

Please tell me what i’m getting for all that extra cost? Because i can’t think of anything.

Many people are coming to the same realization.

You think social services are well
funded in. CT? ask someone who works for DCF how much their funding has been cut.
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paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they can’t build $600,000

Their mostly residents who work in mass ! corrections officers have doing for years .. I know many who it just like I know many who live in RI and work in Mass prisons better pay and benefits then Ri. We call these border towns mass settlements and mass residents have drove the mile to also buy cigarettes and booze in NH

But no one is moving to NH for jobs. That’s the Truth
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paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they can’t build $600,000

Their mostly residents who work in mass ! corrections officers have doing for years .. I know many who it just like I know many who live in RI and work in Mass prisons better pay and benefits then Ri. We call these border towns mass settlements and mass residents have drove the mile to also buy cigarettes and booze in NH

But no one is moving to NH for jobs
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.

Liberty Mutual has TONS of jobs in NH. Tons of data science and white collar jobs. You just make chit up.

And now, most white collar jobs can be done at home. People can work and live anywhere, which will
lead to many more people
leaving blue states for red states. It’s just beginning.
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And now, most white collar jobs can be done at home. People can work and live anywhere, which will
lead to many more people
leaving blue states for red states. It’s just beginning.
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Which proves my point. That the opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states. If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states which taxed their residents and used the $ for schools/infrastructure, etc. That was reflected in the much much higher GDP per capita. Tech (WFH) may help the red states somewhat but they still will have a lot of shortcomings due to not having the $ to improve things (although the richer blue cites/counties will be better off than the red counties).

More than 100 thousand New Hampshire residents work in Massachusetts.
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If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states



good grief,,,,,

Imagine how much worse those red states would be if there wasn't that transfer of many billions of blue state taxes to the poor red states every month.



probably cease to exist....

good grief,,,,,

there’s no white collar jobs in charlotte NC. None.
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there’s no white collar jobs in charlotte NC. None.
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the condescension is amazing...

Which proves my point. That the opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states. If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states which taxed their residents and used the $ for schools/infrastructure, etc. That was reflected in the much much higher GDP per capita. Tech (WFH) may help the red states somewhat but they still will have a lot of shortcomings due to not having the $ to improve things (although the richer blue cites/counties will be better off than the red counties).

"opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states"

Tell that to everyone working in Atlanta and Charlotte NC.

Paul, there are places in red states where I'd NEVER want to live. But there are also places in red states that are very cheap and have a high quality of life. There are exactly zero places in blue states (that I know of) which are very cheap and offer a good quality of life for normal families.

Can you name one nice suburb in a liberal state, which has super low taxes and yet offers a high quality of life? Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, etc??? I don't know of one single such place. Can you name any?

Historically, large companies had reasons to locate in big cities, which tend to be liberal. Nowadays, people and companies are making different choices.

the condescension is amazing...

Equal parts condescension and denial.

there’s no white collar jobs in charlotte NC. None.
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of course there is. It is a blue city so its economy drives that whole NC region.

"opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states"

Tell that to everyone working in Atlanta and Charlotte NC. You mean those blue cities?

Paul, there are places in red states where I'd NEVER want to live. But there are also places in red states that are very cheap and have a high quality of life. There are exactly zero places in blue states (that I know of) which are very cheap and offer a good quality of life for normal families.

Can you name one nice suburb in a liberal state, which has super low taxes and yet offers a high quality of life? Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, etc??? I don't know of one single such place. Can you name any?

Historically, large companies had reasons to locate in big cities, which tend to be liberal. Nowadays, people and companies are making different choices.

You're asking about the liberal cities? They have some of the highest quality of life in the red states. NC is equally divided 1/3 R, D and Ind. The legislature is gerrymandered to be red.

You keep naming liberal cities and using those as examples of places with high quality of life but are unable to show red states that lead the country in the "good" (like Pete and I have) categories other than low taxes.

good grief,,,,,

typical snarky comeback.

Equal parts condescension and denial.
Yet you deny that the quality of life is better in the blue states/counties than the red states.

Yet you deny that the quality of life is better in the blue states/counties than the red states.

I asked you what i get in CT from the state,,which I wouldn’t get in NH or NC. Seems like a very obvious question. Did you answer?

Quality of life might be better in blue states, i don’t deny that, but only if you have the money to pay the exorbitant price tag. The question is, is the improvement in quality of life in blue states, worth the cost of living in blue states? A huge number of americans believe the answer is no, and they are moving as a result.
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You're asking about the liberal cities? They have some of the highest quality of life in the red states. NC is equally divided 1/3 R, D and Ind. The legislature is gerrymandered to be red.

You keep naming liberal cities and using those as examples of places with high quality of life but are unable to show red states that lead the country in the "good" (like Pete and I have) categories other than low taxes.

for the third time. please list some places to live in blue states, which offer a high quality of life with very low taxes.

I can name many places in red states that fit that exact description. Can you name any places in any blue states that fit that description?

Seems like you’re doing everything you can to avoid answering. Gee, I wonder why?
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I asked you what i get in CT from the state,,which I wouldn’t get in NH or NC. Seems like a very obvious question. Did you answer?Didn't see you ask that question.

Quality of life might be better in blue states, i don’t deny that, but only if you have the money to pay the exorbitant price tag. The question is, is the improvement in quality of life in blue states, worth the cost of living in blue states? A huge number of americans believe the answer is no, and they are moving as a result.
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For the average person living in Ct they are better off bc of more services. Some (you but not everyone is an actuary) it might not be. You can move to the "best" city (prob. liberal or close to a major liberal city) in a red state and pay to live in a town whose taxes are higher and has better schools. Salaries for many are higher in Ct bc of higher cost of living and I think the aver. higher sal. out weights the aver. higher tax burden.

For the average person living in Ct they are better off bc of more services. Some (you but not everyone is an actuary) it might not be. You can move to the "best" city (prob. liberal or close to a major liberal city) in a red state and pay to live in a town whose taxes are higher and has better schools. Salaries for many are higher in Ct bc of higher cost of living and I think the aver. higher sal. out weights the aver. higher tax burden.

what services, specifically, would
an average person need and get in CT, that they wouldn’t get in NH?
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Jim, do you realize CT has a higher percentage of conservatives than NH which even has more liberals.
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.

About 16 Percent of New Hampshire Residents Work in Massachusetts
October 15, 2017

If you commute to Mass., you’ve got 123,000 colleagues

Commuter Central: New Hampshire Towns that Border Massachusetts
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Its only gotten worse. Do you ever do any research?

Ya ok keep believing in your fantasy

I live here

It’s the same for towns outside of Boston once commuter rail trains stations were built house prices doubled.
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MAGA y MAGA

Marjorie Taylor Greene: “There are so many people who don’t vote Republican because Republicans don’t do what they say.”
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.

About 16 Percent of New Hampshire Residents Work in Massachusetts
October 15, 2017

If you commute to Mass., you’ve got 123,000 colleagues

Commuter Central: New Hampshire Towns that Border Massachusetts
Friday, May 29th, 2020Verani Realty

Its only gotten worse. Do you ever do any research?

Ya ok keep believing in your fantasy

I live here

It’s the same for towns outside of Boston once commuter rail trains stations were built house prices doubled.
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you said “most” NH residents in the towns i mentioned ( including Bow, which is upstate), work in Mass.

is 16% “most”? are you that bad at math?
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what services, specifically,

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leftists need a lot of services...

quality of life


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quality of life is subjective....

leftists need a lot of services...

but he can’t even say what they are.

people ate realizing that the blue states aren’t worth the cost. Telecommuting will exacerbate that.
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but he can’t even say what they are.

people ate realizing that the blue states aren’t worth the cost. Telecommuting will exacerbate that.
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like Starbucks :rotf2:

you said “most” NH residents in the towns i mentioned ( including Bow, which is upstate), work in Mass.

is 16% “most”? are you that bad at math?
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Like i said do you do any research
Bow is not up state

Why you would use this example it’s far from random ,

Bow NH has a massive population of 8299 is an hour from Boston and 94% white median home 446k. Total number of homes and apartments 2731

And from 2000 to 2001 total appreciation was 92.8 % There #1 in NH and 4th in the nation

Yep you destroyed the 15% of of NH residents commute to MA


Exeter is a medium-sized town located in the state of New Hampshire. With a population of 16,049 people and three constituent neighborhoods, Exeter is the 18th largest community in New Hampshire.

MEDIAN HOME VALUE:
$467,105

NUMBER OF HOMES AND APARTMENTS:
6,693

Since 2000:
2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 101.62 TOTAL APPRECIATION And 2 nd in the state 5th in the nation

This is from NH government they also must be making stuff up! It’s always the case when your suggestion fall apart


Nearly all (94.6 percent) New Hampshire residents who commute out‐of‐state travel to work in one of the three bordering states.
 Among those New Hampshire residents who leave the state for work, 78.6 percent travel to Massachusetts, 8.5 percent travel to work in Vermont, and 7.5 percent travel to work in Maine.
 Just over 300 resident
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Like i said do you do any research
Bow is not up state

Why you would use this example it’s far from random ,

Bow NH has a massive population of 8299 is an hour from Boston and 94% white median home 446k. Total number of homes and apartments 2731

And from 2000 to 2001 total appreciation was 92.8 % There #1 in NH and 4th in the nation

Yep you destroyed the 15% of of NH residents commute to MA


Exeter is a medium-sized town located in the state of New Hampshire. With a population of 16,049 people and three constituent neighborhoods, Exeter is the 18th largest community in New Hampshire.

MEDIAN HOME VALUE:
$467,105

NUMBER OF HOMES AND APARTMENTS:
6,693

Since 2000:
2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 101.62 TOTAL APPRECIATION And 2 nd in the state 5th in the nation

This is from NH government they also must be making stuff up! It’s always the case when your suggestion fall apart


Nearly all (94.6 percent) New Hampshire residents who commute out‐of‐state travel to work in one of the three bordering states.
 Among those New Hampshire residents who leave the state for work, 78.6 percent travel to Massachusetts, 8.5 percent travel to work in Vermont, and 7.5 percent travel to work in Maine.
 Just over 300 resident
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you said “most” in those towns work in Mass. then you posted that 16% work in Mass.

Is 16% most? or is it a small
minority?

you lied. and you showed us how mad you are at math.

you’re proving my point. places like Bow are booming because people
realize they don’t need to pay blue state taxes to have a great quality of life. Bow is proof of that.

you exactly made my point for
me, unless you can show that everyone in Bow works in Mass.

Bow is 70 miles from boston. i’d like to see you do that in an hour during rush hour. you got one thing right, it’s not upstate, i was wrong. everything else you got wrong.
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Jim’s trying to prove his point by claiming that a state where every politician D or R takes the “Pledge” and that went Biden in 2020 is staunchly Republican.
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Jim’s trying to prove his point by claiming that a state where every politician D or R takes the “Pledge” and that went Biden in 2020 is staunchly Republican.
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NH has no state sales tax, and no state income tax. So i’m pretty comfortable saying the state there runs itself as a right leaning place. I never said it was OK or SC.

Yet they create a quality of life in NH that’s so desirable, that a tiny town there has one of the hottest real
estate markets in the country.

My point is this…you don’t always get what you pay for. The statistics that WDMSO posted prove my point precisely.

Naturally you responded to something that i never said. Because even as stupid as you are. you know i’m right.

What services are the “average” people living in NH not getting, that i get in CT thanks to the much higher taxes i pay?

none of you can name a single thing we get for that extra $$ in CT.
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Nearly all (94.6 percent) New Hampshire residents who commute out‐of‐state travel to work in one of the three bordering states.
 Among those New Hampshire residents who leave the state for work, 78.6 percent travel to Massachusetts, 8.5 percent travel to work in Vermont, and 7.5 percent travel to work in Maine.
 Just over 300 resident
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talk about moving the goalposts.

First you said most NH residents in those towns work in Mass.

Now you’re saying that among NH residents who work out of state, most work in a neighboring state.

No sh*t, Sherlock. I never said people in NH work in Alaska.

16% isn’t most wayne. it’s an exception, not the rule.

NH is a cheap place, yet people
want to live there.

Please name one liberal state that has nice towns to live in, with very low state and local taxes? Please name just one.
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New Hampshire

The Political Climate in New Hampshire is Leaning liberal.

In New Hampshire 52.7% of the people voted for the Democratic Party in the last presidential election, 45.4% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.9% voted for an Independent Party.

In the last Presidential election, New Hampshire remained moderately Democratic, 52.7% to 45.4%.
New Hampshire voted Democratic in the last five Presidential elections, after voting Republican in 2000

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what services, specifically, would
an average person need and get in CT, that they wouldn’t get in NH?
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So you choose to ignore all the stats posted about red vs blue but want want me to compare 1 blue state with 1 purple?? state to try to prove disprove the volumes of stats presented.

You're an actuary (aren't you?). There are outliers for everything but the stats all show red states lag far behind blue states in almost all good categories and led in the bad categories.

Please name one liberal state that has nice towns to live in, with very low state and local taxes? Please name just one.

Yep still thinking people live where they live because of taxes and politics. But your not radicalized nope

you’re proving my point. places like Bow are booming because people
realize they don’t need to pay blue state taxes to have a great quality of life. Bow is proof of that.

Like I said you live in a fantasy you were fed a town that you thought fit your narrative that has a whopping 2777 homes

Even my town with its 7100 homes in 2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 had TOTAL APPRECIATION 127.65%

what’s the old saying a rising tide floats all boats
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Please name one liberal state that has nice towns to live in, with very low state and local taxes? Please name just one.

Yep still thinking people live where they live because of taxes and politics. But your not radicalized nope

you’re proving my point. places like Bow are booming because people
realize they don’t need to pay blue state taxes to have a great quality of life. Bow is proof of that.

Like I said you live in a fantasy you were fed a town that you thought fit your narrative that has a whopping 2777 homes

Even my town with its 7100 homes in 2000 Q1 - 2022 Q1 had TOTAL APPRECIATION 127.65%

what’s the old saying a rising tide floats all boats
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Bow was one town. I also
mentioned hollis, brookline, bedford, amherst. i also could have mentioned any of the suburbs of charlotte or nashville.

can you name one town in. liberal state that’s a cheap place to live and offers a high quality of life? insulting me doesn’t answer the question.

people don’t move directly for politics. but they move for cost versus value. red places offer better value, you can it snet that americans believe that, if you look at where they’re moving to.
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Meanwhile the party that claims to be for freedom in the past week has:
- 209 House Republicans voted against abortion rights
- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
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- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care

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wouldn't abortion be the exact opposite of reproductive care? just curious....could we start euthanizing old people and call it geriatric care? I read that Canada is going to start euthanizing people for mental illness...so that's what?...psychiatric care?

Meanwhile the party that claims to be for freedom in the past week has:
- 209 House Republicans voted against abortion rights
- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
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being opposed to infanticide, isn’t inconsistent with being for individual liberty.

Your simpleminded brain only allows you to look at this from the mother’s point of view. That’s clearly one point of view to consider. But there’s another point of view that’s also part of this

You’re callous enough to ignore the perspective of the innocent, defenseless baby. That’s your problem, not my problem.

Caring about protecting an in i ent baby, is in no way i consistent with conservatism

Given what’s likely about to happen to your side, perhaps you should be worried about what your side believes, and less worried about what my side believes

Here’s a true hypocrisy. The party that claims to care about choice, denies school choice. The party that claims to care about women, insists that they compete physically against men.
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being opposed to infanticide, isn’t inconsistent with being for individual liberty.

Your simpleminded brain only allows you to look at this from the mother’s point of view. That’s clearly one point of view to consider. But there’s another point of view that’s also part of this

You’re callous enough to ignore the perspective of the innocent, defenseless baby. That’s your problem, not my problem.

Caring about protecting an in i ent baby, is in no way i consistent with conservatism

Given what’s likely about to happen to your side, perhaps you should be worried about what your side believes, and less worried about what my side believes

Here’s a true hypocrisy. The party that claims to care about choice, denies school choice. The party that claims to care about women, insists that they compete physically against men.
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.

The Trumplican party is far more extreme than Americans

205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality

Trump is planning on being the 2024 candidate and can win the GQP primary
You ain’t seen nothing yet
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.

The Trumplican party is far more extreme than Americans

205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality

Trump is planning on being the 2024 candidate and can win the GQP primary
You ain’t seen nothing yet
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im not a victim. my side is getting ready to pulverize your side. What did i say, that you could possibly infer as my playing the victim card? i mean, how could you possibly conclude that?

i agree 100% that trump running in 2024 would be bad for the gop.
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.


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you really need some psychological counseling....

im not a victim.

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what is GQP? just curious...sounds like pete believes you are a member....

im not a victim. my side is getting ready to pulverize your side. What did i say, that you could possibly infer as my playing the victim card? i mean, how could you possibly conclude that?

i agree 100% that trump running in 2024 would be bad for the gop.
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So you think we better run to the polls like Josh Hawley ran from the insurrection?
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you really need some psychological counseling....

the voices he must hear…
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So you think we better run to the polls like Josh Hawley ran from the insurrection?
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I think no matter what you do, your side is going to take a decent beating in 2022. and if polling is correct with regards to hispanics, your party really needs to go back to the drawing board. Huge numbers of hispanics are catholic, and actual devout catholics, not phony catholics like Biden. They do not like the demented social policies the left is shoving in our faces.

i’ve said a million times that if the left could nominate a normal, actual
moderate ( like the 1992 version of bill clinton), that person would
win 35+ states in a general election. that’s what america wants today.

But the DNC is a million miles to the left of that right now. that’s not what america wants.

it’s interesting. america liked obama ( for no good reason), but didn’t like his policies. America despised trump ( for perfectly valid reasons) but liked his policies. Trump wasn’t a crazy conservative. advocating for criminal justice reform was a liberal policy. but america wanted it.
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I’m not as worried as you

Pennsylvania Lt. Governor John Fetterman has launched a petition seeking to induct Dr. Oz into the New Jersey State Hall of Fame.

Is there any doubt that if Josh Hawley was a passenger on Titanic, he would have shoved aside women and children to grab one of the first seats on a lifeboat?

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I’m not as worried as you



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Right. Your posts indicate nothing but confidence Pete.

NEW poll of the Ohio Senate race:
Tim Ryan (D) 46%
JD Vance (Moscow) 41%
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Here’s the GQPs winning strategy

96% of House Republicans voted against people having the freedom to use contraceptives.
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NEW poll of the Ohio Senate race:
Tim Ryan (D) 46%
JD Vance (Moscow) 41%
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Is that the only election happening in November? Any house races? Any state races?

Ive said, I don't think the GOP takes the US senate, the democrats got lucky with which seats are up, not many vulnerable incumbent democrats in this rotation.

As he was walking on an elevator yesterday, GOP Sen. “little” Marco Rubio said that a vote on a bill to codify gay marriage was a "stupid waste of time."#^&
#^&
But when he said that, there was another senator on the elevator who heard him: Tammy Baldwin, who is gay.
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As he was walking on an elevator yesterday, GOP Sen. “little” Marco Rubio said that a vote on a bill to codify gay marriage was a "stupid waste of time."#^&
#^&
But when he said that, there was another senator on the elevator who heard him: Tammy Baldwin, who is gay.
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So not all that long ago, when Obama and Hilary both stated very clearly that they opposed gay marriage for religious reasons, what was your reaction?

GQP platform

- Outlaw abortion nationwide
- End Medicare & Social Security
- Put a gun in every hand
- Outlaw same-sex marriage
- Outlaw contraception
- Let politicians decide election outcomes
- End the separation of church & state
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GQP platform

- Outlaw abortion nationwide
- End Medicare & Social Security
- Put a gun in every hand
- Outlaw same-sex marriage
- Outlaw contraception
- Let politicians decide election outcomes
- End the separation of church & state
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you gotta wonder why the gop didn’t pursue any of those things when they had the white house and congress. they’d were just too stupid i guess.
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GQP had years to pass an alternative to Obamacare
Never did it
GQP had years to pass infrastructure
Never did it
Just the party of NO

Well, I've always been told if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. I think that explains a lot!
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A man who organized buses to Washington on Jan. 6, tweeted during the riot that Vice President Mike Pence was a “traitor,” tried to impeach Governor Larry Hogan, and spoke at a QAnon conference, just won the Republican nomination for Maryland governor.
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The Trumplican party is not unlike an organized political mafia. Disloyalty is harshly punished. Members are bound by a code of silence as they watch other members commit crimes against our political system. They shake down/threaten businesses. Females are 2nd class. How is it so different?
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Another “Squad” progressive just lost in the Democratic primary in MD4 to a “Biden Democrat.”

While Republicans keep trying to elect extremists, pro insurrection candidates across the country, Democrats are(mostly) nominating more centrist-Biden Democrats candidates.
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Would it be an exaggeration to say that Herschel Walker is the dumbest person in recent American history to run for the senate?
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64% of independents hold Trump responsible for the Jan. 6 attack, and 59% hold “Trump Republicans in Congress” responsible as well.#^&
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pete you really need help.
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Pelosis husband, the drunk, buys a chip company just ahead of a congressional vote on chip subsidies.

Does it look fishy? Or does the fact that we’re talking about a democrat, provide sufficient proof that nothing wrong took place?
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64% of independents hold Trump responsible for the Jan. 6 attack, and 59% hold “Trump Republicans in Congress” responsible as well.#^&
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problem is, the same people who hold him responsible, say the economy is a bigger concern.
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Criminalizing birth control and abortion isn’t popular.

Picking on gay kids isn’t popular.

Banning books isn’t popular.

Eliminating Obamacare isn’t popular.

Enabling criminal Presidents isn’t popular.

Democrats will take the fight to Republicans on their hard, mean, spiteful turn to the right.
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Criminalizing birth control and abortion isn’t popular.

Picking on gay kids isn’t popular.

Banning books isn’t popular.

Eliminating Obamacare isn’t popular.

Enabling criminal Presidents isn’t popular.

Democrats will take the fight to Republicans on their hard, mean, spiteful turn to the right.
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every poll says people care about the economy more.
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Would it be an exaggeration to say that Herschel Walker is the dumbest person in recent American history to run for the senate?
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stop defaming former FBI agents.

every poll says people care about the economy more.
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FUN FACT: Of the 45 million jobs created since 1989, 43 million — nearly 96% — have been created under Democratic presidents.
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Since Reagan, the only actual policy the GOP has had has been "take all the money there is and give it to people who are already rich."

That's it. Nothing else.

And they used racism to misdirect while they did it.
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FUN FACT: Of the 45 million jobs created since 1989, 43 million — nearly 96% — have been created under Democratic presidents.
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Most jobs under Biden weren't created. They were restored after we opened back up.

You just aren't capable of honesty unless it totally favors the left.

So Biden owns the jobs that were restored, but not the covid deaths, not the inflation, not the crime spike, not the increase in illegal immigration, not the skyrocketing interest rates, not any of the things that are making life harder.

In other words, you give him credit for all the good things, but no blame for the bad things.

That's not how sane people evaluate a president. It would be convenient for you if you could get people to buy into that logic, but they don't.

FACT: Biden has cut the deficit by more this year than any President in history.
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Most jobs under Biden weren't created. They were restored after we opened back up.

You just aren't capable of honesty unless it totally favors the left.

So Biden owns the jobs that were restored, but not the covid deaths, not the inflation, not the crime spike, not the increase in illegal immigration, not the skyrocketing interest rates, not any of the things that are making life harder.

In other words, you give him credit for all the good things, but no blame for the bad things.

That's not how sane people evaluate a president. It would be convenient for you if you could get people to buy into that logic, but they don't.

Baloney

so then should you chastise republicans that vote against efforts to reduce the economic impact on people ? every republican voted no on the gas price gouging bill, american rescue plan, build back better, and climate change package that would all add large amounts of jobs ?
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Old conservative argument: judges shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal.

New conservative argument: Congress shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal
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Old conservative argument: judges shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal.

New conservative argument: Congress shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal
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yet you were ok when obama
and hilary opposed gay marriage, and they did so for religious reasons. it was ok when they did it.
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CBS reporting on the Lee Zeldin attack, states that “Zeldin says” he was attacked.

they can’t just say he was attacked. They have tonstatebthatbwerentakung Zeldins word for it, that there’s no video or charges filed against the atta let

“Enemy of the people” isn’t that far off. Imply he’s making it up, because he has an R after his name.
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yet you were ok when obama
and hilary opposed gay marriage, and they did so for religious reasons. it was ok when they did it.
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That’s a great example of why originalism is defective, things change, society changes and failure to accept that can lock you into an unacceptable position.
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CBS reporting on the Lee Zeldin attack, states that “Zeldin says” he was attacked.

they can’t just say he was attacked. They have tonstatebthatbwerentakung Zeldins word for it, that there’s no video or charges filed against the atta let

“Enemy of the people” isn’t that far off. Imply he’s making it up, because he has an R after his name.
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What are you being victimized by now?

NY GOP rep Lee Zeldin is blaming the release of the man who allegedly attacked him on bail reform.

The man was released because the DA very strangely charged him with a non-bail eligible offense. That DA - Sandra Doorley - is co-chair of Zeldin's campaign.
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That’s a great example of why originalism is defective, things change, society changes and failure to accept that can lock you into an unacceptable position.
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yes things changed. as soon as public opinion polling said it would benefit them, then they were in favor of gay marriage. how principled!!
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"One of the few Trumpists who seems to have really reckoned with what she participated in is Stephanie Grisham.... 'I don’t think I can rebrand; I think this will follow me forever,' she told Olivia Nuzzi last year. 'I believe that I was part of something unusually evil.'"
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"One of the few Trumpists who seems to have really reckoned with what she participated in is Stephanie Grisham.... 'I don’t think I can rebrand; I think this will follow me forever,' she told Olivia Nuzzi last year. 'I believe that I was part of something unusually evil.'"
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maybe get a job at MSNBC or CNN Plus.....well...maybe just MSNBC

Raise your hand 🖐️if it didn't take you four years of Trump’s presidency and a violent insurrection to figure out that Donald Trump is utterly unfit to be president.
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Every Republican in Congress should be asked if they agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene that the Republican party is the Christian nationalist party.
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Raise your hand 🖐️if it didn't take you four years of Trump’s presidency and a violent insurrection to figure out that Donald Trump is utterly unfit to be president.
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https://nypost.com/2020/10/09/majority-of-americans-better-off-under-trump-than-4-years-ago-poll/amp/
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Donald Trump
Viktor Orban
Jair Bolsonaro
Vladimir Putin

This is not a coincidence.

The fight for freedom is global. The battle against tyranny needs a network of worldwide activists.

Are you ready?
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Donald Trump
Viktor Orban
Jair Bolsonaro
Vladimir Putin

This is not a coincidence.

The fight for freedom is global. The battle against tyranny needs a network of worldwide activists.

Are you ready?
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Now you’re a worldwide activist against tyranny?

you’re tilting at windmills if you say today’s democrats want more individual liberty than today’s republicans. it’s absurd.
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Now you’re a worldwide activist against tyranny?

you’re tilting at windmills if you say today’s democrats want more individual liberty than today’s republicans. it’s absurd.
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Of the 26 states that will have or likely will ban abortion now, 18 of those states have anti-trans laws; 19 have passed greater voter restrictions laws; All 26 states have disproportionate amounts of infant mortality especially for Black women.
The states pushing abortion bans are the poorest in the union with the highest child poverty rates; All 26 states have passed or are considering state-wide bans on critical race theory.
All 26 states have Republican supermajority (13) or simple majority (13) which gives the power pass or veto any legislation; 11 did not expand Medicaid, most in the South where 56% of Black people live; 7 of the 13 states w/trigger laws viz overturning of Roe are from the confederacy.
11 of the states have anti-sanctuary laws against undocumented immigrants. All 26 states have anti-protest legislation. Most of the anti-abortion states rank in the 50 percentile for pre-K-12 education.
An average of 70 percent of people in in the 26 states go to church at least once a month. White Christian nationalism drives the spat of legislation that seeks to return the United States to a pre-Civil Rights movement era.
Aggrieved white boys like you have enabled every right wing attack and movement.
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Now you’re a worldwide activist against tyranny?

you’re tilting at windmills if you say y
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today’s democrats want more individual liberty than today’s republicans. it’s absurd.

And I’am the idiot ?

Now you’re a worldwide activist against tyranny?

So you disagree Tyranny is bad for the world.
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Trumplicans love tyranny, anything to “own the libs”
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Claim that sex ed ‘grooms’ kids jolted Nebraska politics a year before it swept the nation
The unsubstantiated claim led to a backlash against sex ed that helped topple local Republican Party leaders and propelled a wave of far-right candidates for local and statewide school board

Yep GOP loves freedom

The unsubstantiated claim helped activate an army of self-described Nebraska patriots who rose up against the standards, took over the local Republican Party and propelled a wave of far-right candidates for local and statewide school boards, , these activists were part of a broader, anti-establishment insurgency that toppled leaders of the state Republican Party.

the claim that comprehensive sex ed amounts to grooming has simmered on the right for decades, often fanned by Christian conservatives who disapprove of same-sex relationships and favor home schooling and private schools over public education,

The Mind Polluters” Like 2000 mules was made to bolster the argument that modern sex education makes children more vulnerable to predators. Greenwald and candidates endorsed by a political committee she helped launch have promoted the film

Paul Hazard, a former state trooper who dubbed the proposed sex-ed standards “a pedophile’s dream,” was the top vote-getter in the May primary among eight candidates for the Kearney school board.

Vote for SHERRY!!! Helzer wants to groom your kids for pedophiles & traffickers,” one Jones supporter wrote on Facebook.


Yep Democratic’s are the problem in America . Not the lying and deceit fill Republicans
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Of the 26 states that will have or likely will ban abortion now, 18 of those states have anti-trans laws; 19 have passed greater voter restrictions laws; All 26 states have disproportionate amounts of infant mortality especially for Black women.
The states pushing abortion bans are the poorest in the union with the highest child poverty rates; All 26 states have passed or are considering state-wide bans on critical race theory.
All 26 states have Republican supermajority (13) or simple majority (13) which gives the power pass or veto any legislation; 11 did not expand Medicaid, most in the South where 56% of Black people live; 7 of the 13 states w/trigger laws viz overturning of Roe are from the confederacy.
11 of the states have anti-sanctuary laws against undocumented immigrants. All 26 states have anti-protest legislation. Most of the anti-abortion states rank in the 50 percentile for pre-K-12 education.
An average of 70 percent of people in in the 26 states go to church at least once a month. White Christian nationalism drives the spat of legislation that seeks to return the United States to a pre-Civil Rights movement era.
Aggrieved white boys like you have enabled every right wing attack and movement.
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You’re saying abortion restrictions are tyrannical.

As i recall from history class, the tyrants were the ones who wanted to slaughter huge numbers of innocent human beings. you’re saying it’s tyrannical to oppose the wholesale slaughter of tens of millions of innocents.

Have fun with that.

Pete, every criminal law on the books, limits choices women can make. Every single law. And we're all OK with that.

Every sane person opposes murder. our only point of disagreement, is the status of the baby. your side refuses to discuss that.
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You’re saying abortion restrictions are tyrannical.

As i recall from history class, the tyrants were the ones who wanted to slaughter huge numbers of innocent human beings. you’re saying it’s tyrannical to oppose the wholesale slaughter of tens of millions of innocents.

Have fun with that.

Pete, every criminal law on the books, limits choices women can make. Every single law. And we're all OK with that.

Every sane person opposes murder. our only point of disagreement, is the status of the baby. your side refuses to discuss that.
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Republicans want a nationwide abortion ban with no exceptions.

You’re really trying to convince us that the God who murdered Bathsheba’s newborn, killed all the firstborn sons of Egypt, sent bears to murder little children, commanded Joshua to kill all the children in Jericho, now suddenly cares about “unborn babies.”
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Republicans want a nationwide abortion ban with no exceptions.

You’re really trying to convince us that the God who murdered Bathsheba’s newborn, killed all the firstborn sons of Egypt, sent bears to murder little children, commanded Joshua to kill all the children in Jericho, now suddenly cares about “unborn babies.”
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that’s not what all republicans want.

what’s the longest you can go without lying?

how about saying pro lifers want a stop to the wholesale slaughter of unborn babies?

You seem very dedicated to framing the issue in a stupid way, and like everyone else on your side, you’re doing it because you know an honest discussion of the baby makes your position look barbaric.
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Honest people realize that this issue is one of many that MAGA Republicans want
First no abortion for any cause, no birth control, no marriage unless between man and woman and eliminate Social Security and Medicare.
All proposed by leading Republicans
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Honest people realize that this issue is one of many that MAGA Republicans want
First no abortion for any cause, no birth control, no marriage unless between man and woman and eliminate Social Security and Medicare.
All proposed by leading Republicans
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Got any data, any at all, to support the notion that Republicans want to do away with birth control?

There's a big, big chasm between what you claim I believe, and what I believe.

Again, you lie about what we believe, because even you know you'd have a tough time debating what we actually believe.

You left out killing the environment, we all want to destroy the planet.

Makes you wonder why so many people are moving to republican states.

This Republican embraced gun control. It ended his political career.

Jacobs, a first-term member of Congress who represents a district near Buffalo, would become a cautionary tale about the politics of guns in the Republican Party. Officials who had endorsed Jacobs swiftly withdrew their support. Gun rights groups accused him of betrayal. Donald Trump Jr. said Jacobs had “caved to the gun-grabbers.”

A Republican being honest . Supported on a Monday on Tuesday he’s a sell out! Seems to be a trend in the lying GOP .. and if taking away brith control gets them votes they’ll do it and not even care ..

Jim keep clinging to that GOP lifeboat that ship has sunk ! The GOP and it’s voters now live on fantasy Island we’re lies are sold as truth and if you speak the truth you’re a Heretic
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Got any data, any at all, to support the notion that Republicans want to do away with birth control?

There's a big, big chasm between what you claim I believe, and what I believe.

Again, you lie about what we believe, because even you know you'd have a tough time debating what we actually believe.

You left out killing the environment, we all want to destroy the planet.

Makes you wonder why so many people are moving to republican states.

Three days ago, 96% of House Republicans voted against people having the freedom to use contraceptives.

So in your argument for why, are you also going to suggest we should have left slavery to be decided at the state level. You know, federalism
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Three days ago, 96% of House Republicans voted against people having the freedom to use contraceptives.

So in your argument for why, are you also going to suggest we should have left slavery to be decided at the state level. You know, federalism
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And if you did 5 seconds of honest research, you'd see that the GOP in the house isn't opposed to contraception, they were opposed to the wording of this bill, which would have included non-FDA approved drugs, as well as possibly allowing for the use of chemical abortion drugs, and could also override the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

The GOP is not opposed to contraception, again, how long can you go without lying?


https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/21/wisconsin-house-republicans-vote-against-contraceptive-protections/10118075002/

Jim keep clinging to that GOP lifeboat that ship has sunk ! The GOP and it’s voters now live on fantasy Island
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Again, it makes you wonder, then, why so many Americans are fleeing blue states for red states.

The GOP ship has sunk! Yes, the GOP is doomed in November. Doomed.

So in your argument for why, are you also going to suggest we should have left slavery to be decided at the state level.
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(1) your side wanted slavery decided at the state level. My side sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives to stop it.

(2) slavery was obviously unconstitutional. Abortion restrictions are pretty obviously not unconstitutional.

(3) the supreme court upheld slavery and segregation, those stupid decisions were eventually overturned. Your side is now saying that precedent should be respected, so are you saying it was wrong for future courts to do away with slavery and segregation (championed, again, by your side)? Is it always wrong to overturn precedents? That's what your side is saying now, that it's wrong to overturn precedents.

I can literally feel your tin foil hat getting tighter, and I can literally hear the voices in your head getting louder and angrier. Probably going to be a rough few months for you.

Once again you missed American Political history.
Just keep thinking today’s Trumplican party is the party of Lincoln and that Atwater’s southern strategy never happened.

But sure Jim, let’s see if Tweety destroys the Republican Party as I said he would years ago.
You’ve certainly flip flopped about your hero.

Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said.
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oys the Republican Party as I said he would years ago.
You’ve certainly flip flopped about your hero.

Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said.
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I've flip flopped on Trump? Well, I guess you can't go 2 seconds without lying. I've said from day 1 that he's amorally bankrupt reptile, a vindictive, immature jerk, who nonetheless implemented policies that people actually like (he broke the record in the Gallup poll asking Americans if they're better off after 4 years of his presidency, how else would you interpret that?).

"Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said."

Oh, I agree with that. I have always said I hope he doesn't run again. So I have no clue what you're responding to.

Could you please tell me, how I've flip flopped on Trump?

Once again you missed American Political history.
Just keep thinking today’s Trumplican party is the party of Lincoln and that Atwater’s southern strategy never happened.

But sure Jim, let’s see if Tweety destroys the Republican Party as I said he would years ago.
You’ve certainly flip flopped about your hero.

Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said.
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You also dodged the question on overturning supreme court precedents. Are you ever OK with overturning supreme court precedents? Because after Roe got overruled, the reaction from the left was outrage that they overturned a precedent. Not that their opinion was legally wrong, but merely that they overturned precedent

You also dodged the question on overturning supreme court precedents. Are you ever OK with overturning supreme court precedents? Because after Roe got overruled, the reaction from the left was outrage that they overturned a precedent. Not that their opinion was legally wrong, but merely that they overturned precedent

In addition to being legally wrong, all of the radical right wing justices said in their hearings before Congress that Roe was settled law.
I expected no less from the Christian Nationalist Court.
They also stated that other settled law should be looked at also.
You won’t worry about it till they come after special education and associated entitlements.
Because states rights
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I've flip flopped on Trump? Well, I guess you can't go 2 seconds without lying. I've said from day 1 that he's amorally bankrupt reptile, a vindictive, immature jerk, who nonetheless implemented policies that people actually like (he broke the record in the Gallup poll asking Americans if they're better off after 4 years of his presidency, how else would you interpret that?).

"Donald Trump could cost the Republican Party control of Congress if he announces a presidential bid before the midterm elections in November, GOP pollster Frank Luntz said."

Oh, I agree with that. I have always said I hope he doesn't run again. So I have no clue what you're responding to.

Could you please tell me, how I've flip flopped on Trump?

Scrub all you want, you’ll never get the Trump stench off.

Morals don’t matter, do they?

Next you’ll explain again how Trump supported NATO, even though at his rally he said as president he told European NATO allies that he would not come to their defense if they were invaded by Russia. “That’s right, I will not come to your defense,” he says he told our allies. The audience cheered.
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In addition to being legally wrong, all of the radical right wing justices said in their hearings before Congress that Roe was settled law.
I expected no less from the Christian Nationalist Court.
They also stated that other settled law should be looked at also.
You won’t worry about it till they come after special education and associated entitlements.
Because states rights
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"In addition to being legally wrong,"

Not exactly a lot of substance there, as to why it's legally wrong. Because you can't provide any substance as to why it's not legally wrong.

"all of the radical right wing justices said in their hearings before Congress that Roe was settled law."

Did any of them pledge never, under any circumstances, to overturn any historical precedents? Sorry, it was Ginsburg who started the practice of refusing to make those specific promises, and every single nominee after her has said the same thing.

Since you keep dodging, I'll ask for the 3rd time...are you ever OK with overturning supreme court precedents? Or is it "settled law" every time the SCOTUS makes a ruling? Or is it only settled law when they make a ruling you happen to like?

"They also stated that other settled law should be looked at also."

If they believe that previous settled law was settled incorrectly according to the constitution, then it's their job to consider hearing it. There oath isn't to upholding precedent, it's to preserving the constitution.

"You won’t worry about it till they come after special education and associated entitlements."

I have a special needs kid, I'm very content with the feds staying completely out of his education, and letting those decisions be made locally.

Scrub all you want, you’ll never get the Trump stench off.

Morals don’t matter, do they?

Next you’ll explain again how Trump supported NATO, even though at his rally he said as president he told European NATO allies that he would not come to their defense if they were invaded by Russia. “That’s right, I will not come to your defense,” he says he told our allies. The audience cheered.
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For the second time now, when did I flip flop on Trump? Or did you lie and make that up?

Again, it makes you wonder, then, why so many Americans are fleeing blue states for red states.

The GOP ship has sunk! Yes, the GOP is doomed in November. Doomed.

Can you find some new material? Please!!!
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Can you find some new material? Please!!!
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why find new material, when i can stop you dead in your tracks with a stupidly simple question.

sorry, we can’t all be as original
as you. we never know which side of the issue you’re going to come down on. never.
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Can you find some new material? Please!!!
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there’s a ton of economic news reported this week. One third of the companies in the SP500 report earnings, second quarter gdp growth gets announced, the fed meets and will
almost certainly raise rates by at least 75 bps.

this is a huge week for the democrats. If the news paints a better picture, they can maybe get through the midterms with no more than a bloody nose. If the news gets no better,,they’re going to likely get creamed

Every poll shows that economic issues matter the most, every poll shows that nobody cares about january 6th at the moment. even abortion is far below economic concerns, and i thought that was going to really hurt the gop, and it still might, but not if current polls are correct.

The democrats are already saying “even though 2 consecutive quarters of GDP shrinkage has long been the common definition of a recession, we don’t think there’s a recession even if gdp shrinks again.”

the american people don’t care about january 6. They do care about democrats telling them
that the economy isn’t hurting them
as much as they know it’s hurting them.
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Modern constitutional law as we have known it ended today.

When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and Casey v. Planned Parenthood, it repudiated the very idea that America’s highest court exists to protect people’s fundamental liberties from legislative majorities that would infringe on them.
What the dissent aptly called a “catastrophic” decision is not only a catastrophe for women, who now can be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. It is a catastrophe for all Americans — and for people all over the world who have built their own modern constitutional courts on the US model. The tyranny of the majority won the day.

The right to an abortion was based on the principle of a living Constitution that evolves to expand liberty and equality. That same master principle of modern constitutional law provided the grounding for Brown v. Board of Education, ending segregation. It was the basis for Obergefell v. Hodges, finding a right to same-sex marriage. It is the same principle that undergirds dozens of other decisions establishing rights we today consider fundamental, from sexual freedom to stop and seizure, that were not considered similarly basic in 1791 when the Bill of Rights was ratified or in 1868 when the 14th Amendment was.

In place of the living Constitution that protects liberty and equality from the tyranny of the majority, the court in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization announced a Constitution that only protects rights that already existed in the distant past. The majority considered it irrelevant that the people who ratified the original constitutional provisions did not include women, whose rights are at issue in Dobbs and whose equality is derogated by the decision. According to the majority, the dead hand of the past rules our constitutional future.
It is no exaggeration to say that the Dobbs decision, written by Justice Samuel Alito and joined by four other conservatives, is an act of institutional suicide for the Supreme Court. The legitimacy of the modern court depends on its capacity to protect the vulnerable by limiting how the majority can infringe on basic rights to liberty and equality.

The Dobbs majority not only takes the court out of that business. It holds that the court should never have expanded the protection of liberty and equality in the first place.

The most basic argument of the Dobbs decision is that, in 1868, states did not consider abortion a fundamental right. That is accurate, as the magisterial dissent, co-authored by Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, acknowledges.
But in 1868, there was also no clearly established right to contraception. There were no Miranda rights to protect arrestees. There was no right to choose your own sexual partner, let alone to marry the person you love. And there is no definitive historical evidence that the people who ratified the 14th Amendment thought that doing so prohibited segregation. If you take Dobbs’s logic seriously, all the landmark decisions establishing these rights are wrong.

Will the court now undertake a major effort to revisit these core rights?

Alito’s majority opinion, which is not significantly different from his leaked draft, tries to suggest the court will not do that. Its only basis for that suggestion is to say that abortion is “unique” because it involves life. Justice Clarence Thomas, in a separate concurrence, called openly for revisiting rights to sexual freedom and gay marriage. The dissenters argued cogently that it is now open season on those and similar basic rights.

It is hard for me to imagine that the rest of the conservative justices actually plan to roll back many of our most fundamental rights. Unfortunately, that hardly matters. State legislatures can and will now pass laws that violate or eliminate those rights. The lower courts will have to adjudicate them. Ultimately the Supreme Court will have to weigh in again.
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Modern constitutional law as we have known it ended today.

When the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and Casey v. Planned Parenthood, it repudiated the very idea that America’s highest court exists to protect people’s fundamental liberties from legislative majorities that would infringe on them.
What the dissent aptly called a “catastrophic” decision is not only a catastrophe for women, who now can be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. It is a catastrophe for all Americans — and for people all over the world who have built their own modern constitutional courts on the US model. The tyranny of the majority won the day.

The right to an abortion was based on the principle of a living Constitution that evolves to expand liberty and equality. That same master principle of modern constitutional law provided the grounding for Brown v. Board of Education, ending segregation. It was the basis for Obergefell v. Hodges, finding a right to same-sex marriage. It is the same principle that undergirds dozens of other decisions establishing rights we today consider fundamental, from sexual freedom to stop and seizure, that were not considered similarly basic in 1791 when the Bill of Rights was ratified or in 1868 when the 14th Amendment was.

In place of the living Constitution that protects liberty and equality from the tyranny of the majority, the court in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization announced a Constitution that only protects rights that already existed in the distant past. The majority considered it irrelevant that the people who ratified the original constitutional provisions did not include women, whose rights are at issue in Dobbs and whose equality is derogated by the decision. According to the majority, the dead hand of the past rules our constitutional future.
It is no exaggeration to say that the Dobbs decision, written by Justice Samuel Alito and joined by four other conservatives, is an act of institutional suicide for the Supreme Court. The legitimacy of the modern court depends on its capacity to protect the vulnerable by limiting how the majority can infringe on basic rights to liberty and equality.

The Dobbs majority not only takes the court out of that business. It holds that the court should never have expanded the protection of liberty and equality in the first place.

The most basic argument of the Dobbs decision is that, in 1868, states did not consider abortion a fundamental right. That is accurate, as the magisterial dissent, co-authored by Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, acknowledges.
But in 1868, there was also no clearly established right to contraception. There were no Miranda rights to protect arrestees. There was no right to choose your own sexual partner, let alone to marry the person you love. And there is no definitive historical evidence that the people who ratified the 14th Amendment thought that doing so prohibited segregation. If you take Dobbs’s logic seriously, all the landmark decisions establishing these rights are wrong.

Will the court now undertake a major effort to revisit these core rights?

Alito’s majority opinion, which is not significantly different from his leaked draft, tries to suggest the court will not do that. Its only basis for that suggestion is to say that abortion is “unique” because it involves life. Justice Clarence Thomas, in a separate concurrence, called openly for revisiting rights to sexual freedom and gay marriage. The dissenters argued cogently that it is now open season on those and similar basic rights.

It is hard for me to imagine that the rest of the conservative justices actually plan to roll back many of our most fundamental rights. Unfortunately, that hardly matters. State legislatures can and will now pass laws that violate or eliminate those rights. The lower courts will have to adjudicate them. Ultimately the Supreme Court will have to weigh in again.
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the “living constitution” theory doesn’t safeguard against tyranny, because obviously it allows whoever is in charge, to decide what the constitution means. you can’t be bound by the constitution and be a tyrant.

all of a sudden you’re worried about “the tyranny of the majority”, yet you hate the electoral college, which was specifically designed to safeguard against the tyranny of the majority. As was the filibuster. which your side also currently hates.

do you have ANY principles?

do you think scotus should
decide cases based on avoiding catastrophes for women? i keep forgetting about the famous “women shall endure no catastrophes” clause in the constitution. do you have ANY idea why the statue of Lady Justice on every courthouse is wearing a blindfold?

any judge that ruled to uphold Roe because they want to help
women, those are the tyrants. SCOTUS isn’t the national organization for women. The constitution is what matters, not sympathy for women.

has abortion been a catastrophe for the 50 million babies killed?
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the “living constitution” theory doesn’t safeguard against tyranny, because obviously it slows whoever is in charge, to decide what the constitution means.

all of a sudden you’re worried about “the tyranny of the majority”, yet you hate the electoral
college, which was specifically designed to safeguard against the tyranny of the majority. As was the fillibuster.

do you have ANY principles?
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Once again you demonstrate your lack of knowledge of American history.
The electoral college was a compromise instituted to bring the slave holding states into the Union.

The popu#^&la#^&tions in the North and South were approx#^&im#^&ately equal, but roughly one-third of those living in the South were held in bond#^&age. Because of its consid#^&er#^&able, nonvot#^&ing slave popu#^&la#^&tion, that region would have less clout under a popu#^&lar-vote system. The ulti#^&mate solu#^&tion was an indir#^&ect method of choos#^&ing the pres#^&id#^&ent, one that could lever#^&age the three-fifths comprom#^&ise, the Faus#^&tian bargain they’d already made to determ#^&ine how congres#^&sional seats would be appor#^&tioned. With about 93 percent of the coun#^&try’s slaves toil#^&ing in just five south#^&ern states, that region was the undoubted bene#^&fi#^&ciary of the comprom#^&ise, increas#^&ing the size of the South’s congres#^&sional deleg#^&a#^&tion by 42 percent. When the time came to agree on a system for choos#^&ing the pres#^&id#^&ent, it was all too easy for the deleg#^&ates to resort to the three-fifths comprom#^&ise as the found#^&a#^&tion. The pecu#^&liar system that emerged was the Elect#^&oral College.

Should blacks votes only count as 3/5?
Just what principles do you choose from the ones that were held in the late 1700s or even the 1950s, should Alabama still be able to say: No niggers, no Jews, no dogs?
Your aggrieved white manhood is the same as every right wing cult in American history.
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GM follows walmart with another earnings miss, though they didn’t adjust future earnings which is good. Not much good news so far this week, and it’s a huge week for financial news. Like the super tuesday of financial news.
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From now on, I expect everyone who sees Rafael Cruz to address him as “Kiss My Ass Cruz”

On the street? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”
At the airport? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”
At a restaurant? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”
In Cancun? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”

Because it is important to respect people’s chosen pronouns.
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From now on, I expect everyone who sees Rafael Cruz to address him as “Kiss My Ass Cruz”

On the street? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”
At the airport? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”
At a restaurant? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”
In Cancun? “Hey, Kiss My Ass Cruz!”

Because it is important to respect people’s chosen pronouns.
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that’s what americans care about, pete. pronouns. all the polls show that pronouns are a higher priority than cost of food.
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that’s what americans care about, pete. pronouns. all the polls show that pronouns are a higher priority than cost of food.
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Well, it's English, but since it's not your first language -- or if it is you suffer from such an indifferent education that you can hardly be expected to understand it -- so you grunt out whatever buzzword flotsam sluiced into your wet brain from the Fox effluvium pipe.
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Well, it's English, but since it's not your first language -- or if it is you suffer from such an indifferent education that you can hardly be expected to understand it -- so you grunt out whatever buzzword flotsam sluiced into your wet brain from the Fox effluvium pipe.
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you said democrats are poised to win the midterms. I’m sure pronouns will lift them across the finish line. Nothing matters more to americans right now.
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The GOP openly wants to consolidate the power of the presidency, turn America into a Christian nationalist state, purge Jews from their ranks, silence dissenters, take away the right to marry, ban books & control women.

It's a fascist movement and must be treated as such.
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The GOP openly wants to consolidate the power of the presidency, turn America into a Christian nationalist state, purge Jews from their ranks, silence dissenters, take away the right to marry, ban books & control women.

It's a fascist movement and must be treated as such.
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oh, the republicans are the anti-semites! not the party of Ihan Omar. Please tell us more.
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Projection, lie, false equivalence.
Projection, lie, false equivalence.
Projection, lie. false equivalence.
Projection, lie, false equivalence.
And repeat....
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Projection, lie, false equivalence.
Projection, lie, false equivalence.
Projection, lie. false equivalence.
Projection, lie, false equivalence.
And repeat....
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you’re the Jack Nicholson character from The Shining, Pete.
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The GOP openly wants to consolidate the power of the presidency, turn America into a Christian nationalist state, purge Jews from their ranks, silence dissenters, take away the right to marry, ban books & control women.

It's a fascist movement and must be treated as such.
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Jim, your problem is that Republicans have publicly stated all the above and then:
Projection, lie, false equivalence.
And repeat....
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Jim, your problem is that Republicans have publicly stated all the above and then:
Projection, lie, false equivalence.
And repeat....
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can you point me to where any influential republican publicly said he wants to purge the jews.
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Google is available to use and it’s even free, or ask George Soros
You obviously have no contest with the others
Sad
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GM follows walmart with another earnings miss, though they didn’t adjust future earnings which is good. Not much good news so far this week, and it’s a huge week for financial news. Like the super tuesday of financial news.
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Jim People haven't stopped shopping at walmart. just that the inflation affecting the world is impacting their profit margins they are still earning money .. but their poor stockholders .. are taking a hit .. LOL


CEOs Earn 345 Times What The Average Worker Takes Home

yep keep feeling bad for corporate america like a good Conservative

Jim Do you support Trump and his faithful plan if he's re elected in 2024

According to a report Trump plans to purge the government of career employees with actual expertise, and replace them with only the most hard-core loyalists.
Trump’s 2025 plan includes a nightmare list of Cabinet picks — and purge of career officials: report

Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows' group, the Conservative Partnership Institute, is expected to play a key role. The group has already raised nearly $20 million, including $1 million from Trump's PAC, and has a team working on a database of "vetted staff that could be fed immediately" to Trump's team,

Trumpworld feverishly building a database of thousands of MAGA diehards who could replace longtime civil servants
Sounds like a fascist coup or an Authoritarian coup or a communist coup Not American democracy


If you read any of the above . and see an America 1st agenda . you're a cult member and a threat to the American way of life and governing

Jim Do you support Trump and his faithful plan if he's re elected in 2024

According to a report Trump plans to purge the government of career employees with actual expertise, and replace them with only the most hard-core loyalists.
Trump’s 2025 plan includes a nightmare list of Cabinet picks — and purge of career officials: report

Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows' group, the Conservative Partnership Institute, is expected to play a key role. The group has already raised nearly $20 million, including $1 million from Trump's PAC, and has a team working on a database of "vetted staff that could be fed immediately" to Trump's team,

Trumpworld feverishly building a database of thousands of MAGA diehards who could replace longtime civil servants
Sounds like a fascist coup or an Authoritarian coup or a communist coup Not American democracy


If you read any of the above . and see an America 1st agenda . you're a cult member and a threat to the American way of life and governing

Jim, Scott, Dad and others keep complaining anyone left of center just can’t let Trump go, that we are obsessed with him and yet it’s been exposed that Trumps plans are really a group effort. Democratic government under Trumps rule goes the way of the dodo bird and your votes won’t mean sh*t down the road.

For the Republican establishment, there are no real limits or red lines. Bigotry, conspiracy, anti-democracy--all are to be overlooked in the service of victory for the Party.

First overlooked. Then rationalized. Then justified. Ultimately...embraced.
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Jim, Scott, Dad and others keep complaining anyone left of center just can’t let Trump go,

Pretty sure I've never stated that, not saying that's not what you "heard", but I never said it.

Jim Do you support Trump and his faithful plan if he's re elected in 2024

According to a report Trump plans to purge the government of career employees with actual expertise, and replace them with only the most hard-core loyalists.
Trump’s 2025 plan includes a nightmare list of Cabinet picks — and purge of career officials: report

Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows' group, the Conservative Partnership Institute, is expected to play a key role. The group has already raised nearly $20 million, including $1 million from Trump's PAC, and has a team working on a database of "vetted staff that could be fed immediately" to Trump's team,

Trumpworld feverishly building a database of thousands of MAGA diehards who could replace longtime civil servants
Sounds like a fascist coup or an Authoritarian coup or a communist coup Not American democracy


If you read any of the above . and see an America 1st agenda . you're a cult member and a threat to the American way of life and governing

i would never, ever vote for trump in a republican primary. if he were to be the gop nominee, i’d absolutely vote for him.

“according to a report…”. wow it must be true, then.
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Jim, Scott, Dad and others keep complaining anyone left of center just can’t let Trump go, that we are obsessed with him and yet it’s been exposed that Trumps plans are really a group effort. Democratic government under Trumps rule goes the way of the dodo bird and your votes won’t mean sh*t down the road.

i’m not complaining, just noting it. because it’s true.

look up the word obsessed in the dictionary. tell
me that’s not where al are.

i’m not saying do t discuss him. but none of you are able to talk about anything else.
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i would never, ever vote for trump in a republican primary. if he were to be the gop nominee, i’d absolutely vote for him.

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As I posted

For the Republican establishment, there are no real limits or red lines. Bigotry, conspiracy, anti-democracy--all are to be overlooked in the service of victory for the Party.

First overlooked. Then rationalized. Then justified. Ultimately...embraced
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As I posted

For the Republican establishment, there are no real limits or red lines. Bigotry, conspiracy, anti-democracy--all are to be overlooked in the service of victory for the Party.

First overlooked. Then rationalized. Then justified. Ultimately...embraced
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as I posted, you’re psychotic.
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i’m not complaining, just noting it. because it’s true.

look up the word obsessed in the dictionary. tell
me that’s not where al are.

i’m not saying do t discuss him. but none of you are able to talk about anything else.
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Oh I know, we never discuss climate change, gun legislation, police profiling, abortion, term limits, voting restrictions, Supreme Court appointments, just Trump, Trump and more Trump. Do you really believe the stuff you post, your sort of a Trump mini-me, believing stuff proven so wrong by numerous examples. Carry on with your own obsession with the liberals and of course whataboutism, on that later point you rule.

as I posted, you’re psychotic.
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You’re easily led

The nominee you said you would vote for spoke today in DC

The former president delivered a straight up fascist and authoritarian speech, complete with executions, military takeovers and forcible relocations of citizens.

Feel free to watch it yourself
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You’re easily led

The nominee you said you would vote for spoke today in DC

The former president delivered a straight up fascist and authoritarian speech, complete with executions, military takeovers and forcible relocations of citizens.

Feel free to watch it yourself
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I think Graham is the most pathetic politician of the bunch. In 2016 he blasted Trump for who he really is. Trump gets elected and now he loves Trump. Trump maintains the big lie leading to the 6th and now he is out and done with Trump. Then he softened his stance feeling the committee is just out to get his buddy Trump. Now he says Trump is good for America and should run, OMG is this guy going thru menopause?

A member of Viktor Orban's inner circle has resigned after the Hungarian prime minister spoke out against becoming "peoples of mixed race".
Zsuzsa Hegedus, who has known the nationalist Mr Orban for 20 years, described the speech as a "pure Nazi text",

Isn’t Victor speaking at CPAC soon
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i’m not complaining, just noting it. because it’s true.

look up the word obsessed in the dictionary. tell
me that’s not where al are.

i’m not saying do t discuss him. but none of you are able to talk about anything else.
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Of course you will vote for him why put the country before Trump..

It’s like saying I’d never fish with a known pedophile , until he owns a nice boat. Then I’ll forgot his history

Because I might get something out of it
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Of course you will vote for him why put the country before Trump..

It’s like saying I’d never fish with a known pedophile , until he owns a nice boat. Then I’ll forgot his history

Because I might get something out of it
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being honest. do you think any of us believe, you’d ever. not vote for the democrat running for potus?

that pesky Gallup poll, every 4 years they ask americans if they’re better off after 4 years of the incumbent president, and more said yes after 4 years of trump than for any other president in the history of the poll.

Please tell us why you believe Trump holds the record in the poll?

He’s an unbelievable jerk. We’ve covered that. He also did really good things for america, including getting criminal justice reform, which liberals had wanted for a long time, and which obama chose not to do even though he had congress on his side for much of his presidency.

Trump is as bad as a pedophile? Well , Biden has a rape allegation against him. Remind me who you voted for? Sorry, if it’s ok for you to vote for corrupt degenerates, then it’s also ok for me.


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being honest. do you think any of us believe, you’d ever. not vote for the democrat running for potus?

that pesky Gallup poll, every 4 years they ask americans if they’re better off after 4 years of the incumbent president, and more said yes after 4 years of trump than for any other president in the history of the poll.

Please tell us why you believe Trump holds the record in the poll?

He’s an unbelievable jerk. We’ve covered that. He also did really good things for america, including getting criminal justice reform, which liberals had wanted for a long time, and which obama chose not to do even though he had congress on his side for much of his presidency.

Trump is as bad as a pedophile? Well , Biden has a rape allegation against him. Remind me who you voted for? Sorry, if it’s ok for you to vote for corrupt degenerates, then it’s also ok for me.


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If Jan 6 wasn't your red line, you don't have one. Which means the many many utter horrors one could conjure from history are entirely on the table in a second term.

On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.”

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If Jan 6 wasn't your red line, you don't have one. Which means the many many utter horrors one could conjure from history are entirely on the table in a second term.

On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.”

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it wasn’t my red line. sorry.

yup, he’s going to commit mass genocide if he gets a second term.

if the choice is between someone who says “hitler did some
good things” ( which is factually correct) and having inflation at 0, and someone who won’t say that but inflation is approaching double digits, sorry that's not even a difficult choice.

you want to dust off the 1992 version of bill clinton and run him again, i’ll vote for him again as i did back them. Funny though, he’s an obvious serial predator of women, but still an absolute hero on the left.

It therefore appears that your insistence on presidential
ethics, is rather selective. Which necessarily means, your insistence is fake.
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Just what magical monetary skills do you attribute to Trump?

Trump had the worst jobs history of any modern president, it wasn’t just the pandemic.
Job growth under Trump was at a lower pace than most presidents
He took office at the top of the economic cycle and took it down with, increased tariffs, increased government spending, cut taxes, increased the deficit.

Things have improved since Biden took office

It’s not perfect but we have
-low unemployment
-steady job growth
-higher savings
The world is not ending and Americans won’t let MAGA end this country.

Americans are waking up to the fact that Trump was incompetent, without ethics and a malignant narcissist.
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Trump said yesterday that he wanted a quick trial and execution for drug dealers, and that each one executed would save 500 lives.

In his last week in office, Trump pardoned 13 people convicted of selling or trafficking drugs.
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Just what magical monetary skills do you attribute to Trump?

Trump had the worst jobs history of any modern president, it wasn’t just the pandemic.
Job growth under Trump was at a lower pace than most presidents
He took office at the top of the economic cycle and took it down with, increased tariffs, increased government spending, cut taxes, increased the deficit.

Things have improved since Biden took office

It’s not perfect but we have
-low unemployment
-steady job growth
-higher savings
The world is not ending and Americans won’t let MAGA end this country.

Americans are waking up to the fact that Trump was incompetent, without ethics and a malignant narcissist.
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you give biden credit for every job restored after covid. what monetary skills do you attribute to biden?

i’m
judging presidents, by what happened in their watch. sorry if that doesn’t give you the results you are rooting for.
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Trump said yesterday that he wanted a quick trial and execution for drug dealers, and that each one executed would save 500 lives.

In his last week in office, Trump pardoned 13 people convicted of selling or trafficking drugs.




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liberals
wanted criminal
justice reform, wanted non violent drug dealers released.

now you’re criticizing him for doing what liberals wanted. interesting.
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you give biden credit for every job restored after covid. what monetary skills do you attribute to biden?

i’m
judging presidents, by what happened in their watch. sorry if that doesn’t give you the results you are rooting for.
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Then you need to look at what happened on their watch

Job growth under Trump was at a lower pace than most presidents
He took office at the top of the economic cycle and took it down with, increased tariffs, increased government spending, cut taxes, increased the deficit.
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liberals
wanted criminal
justice reform, wanted non violent drug dealers released.

now you’re criticizing him for doing what liberals wanted. interesting.
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Never mind the rule of law
Execution is the answer
The final solution
Who will be next after drug dealers?

For the Republican establishment, there are no real limits or red lines. Bigotry, conspiracy, anti-democracy--all are to be overlooked in the service of victory for the Party.

First overlooked. Then rationalized. Then justified. Ultimately...embraced.

And really, what says American Greatness more than massive internment camps, executions, border walls, federal troops in the streets, coups, and the mockery of sexual minorities?

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democrats supporting trump candidates,,,,talk about conflicted...:laugha:

‘It Could Backfire’: House Democrats Urge DCCC to Stop Propping Up Pro-Trump Primary Candidates

The DCCC recently spent $425,000 on a campaign ad to boost a pro-Trump candidate in a Michigan GOP House primary.

I’d agree with Liz Cheney on that

"No party, Democrat or Republican, should be promoting candidates who perpetuate lies about the 2020 election and try to undermine our democracy. We all have a responsibility and obligation to put our duty to the country above partisan politics."
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being honest. do you think any of us believe, you’d ever. not vote for the democrat running for potus?

that pesky Gallup poll, every 4 years they ask americans if they’re better off after 4 years of the incumbent president, and more said yes after 4 years of trump than for any other president in the history of the poll.

Please tell us why you believe Trump holds the record in the poll?

He’s an unbelievable jerk. We’ve covered that. He also did really good things for america, including getting criminal justice reform, which liberals had wanted for a long time, and which obama chose not to do even though he had congress on his side for much of his presidency.

Trump is as bad as a pedophile? Well , Biden has a rape allegation against him. Remind me who you voted for? Sorry, if it’s ok for you to vote for corrupt degenerates, then it’s also ok for me.


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being honest. do you think any of us believe, you’d ever. not vote for the democrat running for potus?


Of course Jim you think everyones a blind partisan like yourself

I would honestly vote for the best candidate . And have since I voted for Ronald then bush 1 and Bill Clinton then bush 2 then Obama and never Trump because I knew he was a scumbag from the start


And leave it to you ! to take an analogy. And take it as a literal example.. and defend Trump by suggesting Biden raped someone

Yet Donald Trump has admitted on tape to what Reade accuses Biden of doing and still denies the accounts of more than 20 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct

In Jim’s world everything’s the same
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being honest. do you think any of us believe, you’d ever. not vote for the democrat running for potus?


Of course Jim you think everyones a blind partisan like yourself

I would honestly vote for the best candidate . And have since I voted for Ronald then bush 1 and Bill Clinton then bush 2 then Obama and never Trump because I knew he was a scumbag from the start


And leave it to you ! to take an analogy. And take it as a literal example.. and defend Trump by suggesting Biden raped someone

Yet Donald Trump has admitted on tape to what Reade accuses Biden of doing and still denies the accounts of more than 20 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct

In Jim’s world everything’s the same
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Biden has a rape allegation against him. i’m not implying anything. i’m stating a fact.

why did a record-number of americans tell Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump?

im curious to see your answer. insulting me, doesn’t answer the question.

i dont think everything is the same, of course there are degrees of everything. but it’s funny that democrats are always, always on the OK side of whats appropriate.

a fair allegation was enough to keep kavanaugh of the bench, but not enough to keep Biden out of the white house? please explain how that makes sense.

anything to avoid an honest discussion. of results.
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Biden has a fair allegation against him. i’m not implying anything.

why did a record-number of americans tell Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump?

im curious to see your answer. insulting me, doesn’t answer the question.

i dont think everything is the same, of course there are degrees of everything. but it’s funny that democrats are always, always on the OK side of whats appropriate.

a fair allegation was enough to keep kavanaugh of the bench, but not enough to keep Biden out of the white house? please explain how that makes sense.

anything to avoid an honest discussion. of results.
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You claimed that Ronan Farrow was going to get to the truth of the Reade incident, what happened?
The 4500 reports on Kavanaugh were turned over to the White House and nothing happened. What a surprise.

You cite A poll as proof that Trump is great, that’s one data point
He lost the election

The Republican party should have censured people who spew racism, pro-Putin talking points, and anti-democracy views

Instead, they censure Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and AZ speaker Rusty Bowers for the “crime” of telling the truth about Jan. 6

You’re not in a party. It’s a cult.
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You claimed that Ronan Farrow was going to get to the truth of the Reade incident, what happened?
The 4500 reports on Kavanaugh were turned over to the White House and nothing happened. What a surprise.

You cite A poll as proof that Trump is great, that’s one data point
He lost the election

The Republican party should have censured people who spew racism, pro-Putin talking points, and anti-democracy views

Instead, they censure Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and AZ speaker Rusty Bowers for the “crime” of telling the truth about Jan. 6

You’re not in a party. It’s a cult.
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when did i say anything about Ronan Farrow?

yes trump lost the election. i can offer a sane, rational
opinion as to why - america hated him, and for good reason.

Can you explain why a record number of americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, without insulting me? no, you cant. the poll speaks for itself ( people
liked trumps policies, but you can’t admit it), so you change the subject.

Pete what are most polls
showing today, predicting the outcome of a rematch between Trump and Biden?

Oooh, that tin foil hat is tightening.
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Your lonely poll says nothing about the Stable Genius’s policies
Zero
In spite of Americans continued economic gains they chose, going against tradition, to dump Trump.

They saw that he failed to deliver on any of his promises other than tax cuts and McConnell’s Supreme Court justices.

No healthcare
No Infrastructure
No withdrawal from ME
Riots in the streets
Sending troops to attack protesters
Impeached twice
Historic number of administration members indicted
Rampant nepotism
Blatant disregard of the traditions that define American democracy
A little bleach, some bright light, horse medicine and voodoo
Unindicted conspirator number One

Very impressive isn’t he



What a wonderful president

As far as polls go
I see both Biden and Harris beating Trump and DeathSantis in some, it’s years in the future
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why did a record-number of americans tell Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump?

And of course you Hear they love Trump .. guess what I was better off after trump left office

The difference is I never once thought he had anything to do with that
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Not welcome at CPAC:
George W. Bush
Mitt Romney
Liz Cheney
Adam Kinzinger
Larry Hogan
Pro vaccine individuals

Welcome to CPAC:
Viktor Orban
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Tulsi Gabbard
Matt Gaetz
Sarah Palin
Mike Lindell
Jim in CT

This is conservatism in 2022
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Yup and the bottom list will be key cabinet members if Trump is elected and the dismantling of our democracy begins and Jim is like Lindsey Grahm, he says oh wait let me get Jim down correctly, how many times do I have to tell you I hate Trump and hope he never runs again and now apparently he is prepared to vote Trump due to the continued fears of a recession.

welcome to the brandon recession :jester:

welcome to the brandon recession :jester:

Take it over the Trump pandemic.

why did a record-number of americans tell Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump?

And of course you Hear they love Trump .. guess what I was better off after trump left office

The difference is I never once thought he had anything to do with that
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"why did a record-number of americans tell Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump?...And of course you Hear they love Trump"

You're saying, that I claimed that poll means America loved Trump.

When I posted this..."america hated him, and for good reason."

I posted that America hated him for good reason. The way you interpret that, is that I'm saying America loves him.

Jim: America hated him, and for good reason
WDMSO: you're saying america loves Trump

I can't tell if you're truly this stupid, or just unbelievably dishonest. It's one or the other, there certainly isn't a third option.

Take it over the Trump pandemic.

More Americans died under Biden. I assume that's all Trumps fault?

Are all global covid deaths Trumps fault? Or just the deaths in the US?

Nah, you're not obsessed with him...no idea what I was thinking when I said that.

Yup and the bottom list will be key cabinet members if Trump is elected and the dismantling of our democracy begins and Jim is like Lindsey Grahm, he says oh wait let me get Jim down correctly, how many times do I have to tell you I hate Trump and hope he never runs again and now apparently he is prepared to vote Trump due to the continued fears of a recession.

Not just because of a recession. I'll never vote for a pro abortion candidate for any office, for any reason, ever.

Trump was BY FAR, the best friend the unborn ever had in the Oval Office. That's a fact.

Not just because of a recession. I'll never vote for a pro abortion candidate for any office, for any reason, ever.

Trump was BY FAR, the best friend the unborn ever had in the Oval Office. That's a fact.

I know Lindsey, thank God (that is a joke) your saving those baby’s, hope the people you vote in can address all the children killed by gun violence, support those babies when the mothers can’t and you better hurry women and the youth in this country have wised up to the GOP game.

I know Lindsey, thank God (that is a joke) your saving those baby’s, hope the people you vote in can address all the children killed by gun violence, support those babies when the mothers can’t and you better hurry women and the youth in this country have wised up to the GOP game.

Have blue states eliminated kids killed by gun violence?

Is violence up or down since Biden was sworn in? Kids dying by suicide, drug overdoses, are those up or down?

You're all fizz and zero gin.

I'm more than happy to pay taxes to help kids who need help. Not sure where you get the idea that I wouldn't be...

"you better hurry women and the youth in this country have wised up to the GOP game"

Must be why are the polls show dems way ahead for 2022 and 2024.

His presidency has been one disaster after another. Yes, I have to admit I like saying that, but it also happens to be true.

Just remember if Republicans take power, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are as good as gone. And the people telling you not to worry are the same ones who told you not to worry about Roe.
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Just remember if Republicans take power, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are as good as gone.
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that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
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NEW poll of the Georgia Senate race:
Warnock (D) 48%
Walker (R) 39%
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NEW poll of the Georgia Senate race:
Warnock (D) 48%
Walker (R) 39%
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you keep posting that one race.

I’ve said 25 times i don’t think the gop re takes the senate. think they will in 2024. not in. 2022, it’s not a good rotation of seats up for the gop.

The GA senate race isn’t the only election in november. It is a meaningful race, as GA appears to be shirting to the left for sure.
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did you see bug eyed joe try to speak yesterday?...what the hell kind of drugs are they putting in that carcass???:eyes:

Your guy was mainlining kfc, snorting adderall and watching TV all 4 YEARS

You are hilarious
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Your guy was mainlining kfc, snorting adderall and watching TV all 4 YEARS

You are hilarious
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WecV9XwgqD4

not the same people...clearly...wtf is going on with his eyes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhWp1nE7PO0

Donald Trump increased the federal debt by $8 trillion but his supporters are calling President Biden's recovery plan "Build Back Broke." If Trump's political supporters were any worse at math they'd be shareholders in Trump Steaks.
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Donald Trump increased the federal debt by $8 trillion but his supporters are calling President Biden's recovery plan "Build Back Broke." If Trump's political supporters were any worse at math they'd be shareholders in Trump Steaks.
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the brandon recession will affect everyone.....

Are you hoping for a recession?

Meanwhile the leader of today's "American" "conservativism" speaks at CPAC in Dallas next week: Viktor Orban.
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"why did a record-number of americans tell Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump?...And of course you Hear they love Trump"

You're saying, that I claimed that poll means America loved Trump.

When I posted this..."america hated him, and for good reason."

I posted that America hated him for good reason. The way you interpret that, is that I'm saying America loves him.

Jim: America hated him, and for good reason
WDMSO: you're saying america loves Trump

I can't tell if you're truly this stupid, or just unbelievably dishonest. It's one or the other, there certainly isn't a third option.

You're saying, that I claimed that poll means America loved Trump.

Oh so now your honesty suggesting that’s not what you were suggesting every time you’ve said that!

Ya ok. Ps I am however better of then I was 20 years ago. But that’s on me
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You're saying, that I claimed that poll means America loved Trump.

Oh so now your honesty suggesting that’s not what you were suggesting every time you’ve said that!

Ya ok. Ps I am however better of then I was 20 years ago. But that’s on me
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you are so slow it’s unbelievable.

for the 1000th time. America, for the most part, liked his policies. That’s the only conclusion to be drawn from that poll I cite.

At the same time, America, for the most part, hated him as a person. Nobody denies his deep ethical and behavioral flaws.

Do you not grasp that there’s a difference between being good at your job, and being a good person?
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you are so slow it’s unbelievable.


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almost biden slow.....

remember trump was pounded by the press and pete every day for four years plus...that will eventually show up in polls...


brandon has been boosted by the press etc...every day since before he was elected and that is reflected in the polling as well...which means his actual approval rating is probably single digits...

Senate Republicans blocked the PACT Act – critical veterans’ healthcare legislation that they supported just weeks ago, to retaliate against Democrats for legislation lowering prescription drug prices?
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almost biden slow.....

remember trump was pounded by the press and pete every day for four years plus...that will eventually show up in polls...


brandon has been boosted by the press etc...every day since before he was elected and that is reflected in the polling as well...which means his actual approval rating is probably single digits...

You’re nuts
Biden’s been both sided since the start of his administration

But your hero Donald Trump brags about botching the covid pandemic, says he "listened to Fauci" and "did the opposite" of whatever the esteemed doctor suggested — which explains why 425,000 died of covid under Trump.
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You’re nuts
Biden’s been both sided since the start of his administration

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this is a good one.....

Are you hoping for a recession?


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I think it's official....

Trump budget bill INCREASED the deficit by $4 TRILLION.

Biden budget bill (announced last night) DECREASES the deficit by $300 BILLION.

There’s only one fiscally responsible party.

And by the way

New Fox News polls just out:

PA SEN:
47% Fetterman (D)
36% Oz (R)

GA SEN:
46% Warnock (D)
42% Walker (R)

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so you are saying...we're in a recession?

GA SEN:
46% Warnock (D)
42% Walker (R)

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didn't you just cherry pick a random poll the other day to say Warnock was way ahead?






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NEW poll of the Georgia Senate race:
Warnock (D) 48%
Walker (R) 39%

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Lots of polls, all trending the same
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So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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Former IA Congressman Jim Leach, who served three decades alongside Chuck Grassley as a Republican, is breaking with his party to endorse Grassley’s Dem opponent
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So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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if you’re an unborn child, forced birth is better than abortion. a whole lot better.
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if you’re an unborn child, forced birth is better than abortion. a whole lot better.
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A national abortion ban would result in a 24% increase in deaths for all women and a 39% increase in deaths for non-Hispanic Black women. There is nothing pro-life about Republicans’ forced-birth movement.

Pregnancy is 14 times more likely to result in a woman’s death than an abortion; and the states outlawing abortion right now already have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality due to high levels of poverty, limited access to healthcare, and refusal to expand Medicaid.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives. They will just kill more women and create ripple effects of trauma and devastation throughout society. None of this is about life. The same people pushing forced birth laws also want to outlaw contraception and sex education.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion. SCOTUS’ overturning of Roe was flagrantly unconstitutional and this court of religious ideologues has absolutely zero legitimacy.

Women will not tolerate this; nor should they. The issue isn’t when life or conception begins. It’s who should make decisions about women’s bodies: women themselves or governments. And there is no debate. Women should make these decisions for themselves. Not the government.
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A national abortion ban would result in a 24% increase in deaths for all women and a 39% increase in deaths for non-Hispanic Black women. There is nothing pro-life about Republicans’ forced-birth movement.

Pregnancy is 14 times more likely to result in a woman’s death than an abortion; and the states outlawing abortion right now already have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality due to high levels of poverty, limited access to healthcare, and refusal to expand Medicaid.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives. They will just kill more women and create ripple effects of trauma and devastation throughout society. None of this is about life. The same people pushing forced birth laws also want to outlaw contraception and sex education.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion. SCOTUS’ overturning of Roe was flagrantly unconstitutional and this court of religious ideologues has absolutely zero legitimacy.

Women will not tolerate this; nor should they. The issue isn’t when life or conception begins. It’s who should make decisions about women’s bodies: women themselves or governments. And there is no debate. Women should make these decisions for themselves. Not the government.
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you dodged my question naturally. when you were an unborn child, would
you prefer forced birth or abortion.

If there were a nationwide abortion ban, how many babies’ lives would be saved?
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Forced-birth laws will not save any lives.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion.
The issue isn’t when life or conception begins.
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( 1 it will save a million lives a year.

(2) believing abortion is a state issue, is not part of any religion that i know of.

(3) the question of when life begins, is literally all that matters, because everyone, including you, are ok with laws that prevent women from using their bodies in a way that hurts someone else! you and i both agree on that. so the only question, is when the baby constitutes someone else.
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It’s still based on religion, Alito said as much in Rome.

If forced birth believers were really for life the fact that at 17.4/100k maternal mortality in the US is already a disgrace.
The rest of the developed world for example the UK 6.5 and France 7.6.
Within parts of the US we're talking 3rd World levels, Louisiana 58.1, Georgia 48.4.

You think now those numbers will improve?
We’ll be lucky if they don’t quadruple in Red states in the Deep South.
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you dodged my question naturally. when you were an unborn child, would
you prefer forced birth or abortion.

If there were a nationwide abortion ban, how many babies’ lives would be saved?
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Silly troll
I don’t believe life starts at conception, so zero
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It’s still based on religion, Alito said as much in Rome.

If forced birth believers were really for life the fact that at 17.4/100k maternal mortality in the US is already a disgrace.
The rest of the developed world for example the UK 6.5 and France 7.6.
Within parts of the US we're talking 3rd World levels, Louisiana 58.1, Georgia 48.4.

You think now those numbers will improve?
We’ll be lucky if they don’t quadruple in Red states in the Deep South.
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he said no such thing in Rome. he talked about two different topics

I don’t like the idea of 9 unelected judges getting to decide for all of us, what they think the constitution means. That isn’t any kind of religious argument.
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he said no such thing in Rome. he talked about two different topics

I don’t like the idea of 9 unelected judges getting to decide for all of us, what they think the constitution means. That isn’t any kind of religious argument.
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The theocratic Supreme Court just did exactly that
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I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the President…how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote…Today I may be the victim, but tomorrow it may be you.”—JFK 1960
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The theocratic Supreme Court just did exactly that
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No they didn’t
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he said no such thing in Rome. he talked about two different topics

I don’t like the idea of 9 unelected judges getting to decide for all of us, what they think the constitution means. That isn’t any kind of religious argument.
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Yea, he did talk about his belief in the importance of religion and implied that Boris Johnson lost because he commented unfavorably about the radical SCOTUS overturning Roe.
Very difficult to overstate how dangerous this is. A Supreme Court justice suggesting that "secular society" is a risk, that the government somehow favors or even is dependent on religion and believers over others is a step toward theocracy and away from our founding principles.
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Yea, he did talk about his belief in the importance of religion and implied that Boris Johnson lost because he commented unfavorably about the radical SCOTUS overturning Roe.
Very difficult to overstate how dangerous this is. A Supreme Court justice suggesting that "secular society" is a risk, that the government somehow favors or even is dependent on religion and believers over others is a step toward theocracy and away from our founding principles.
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again, the court has been radical left your whole life, and you can’t handle the change. i’m sorry.
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Alito’s argument is that the right to abortion is “egregiously wrong” because it is not “deeply rooted in our history and tradition” and respondents are “unable to show that a constitutional right to abortion was established when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted.”
Here’s the problem with this argument. Women didn’t have any rights when the 14th Amendment was adopted; not just abortion. Women didn’t even get the right to vote until five Amendments later. This in no way justifies ripping rights to bodily autonomy from women in 2022.
While he only expressly targets Roe and Casey in this brief, if the standard for our rights going forward is what is referenced in the Constitution or what is deeply rooted in our history and tradition, then the only rights that are safe are those belonging to straight white men.
Overturning Roe will be an unmitigated disaster for women. It will immediately trigger abortion bans in at least 13 states and near-bans in another 12. It will open the door for states to criminalize contraception, miscarriage, and even medical procedures to save a mother’s life.
And if Roe can be overturned simply because a majority of illegitimate justices appointed explicitly to take rights away from marginalized groups says so, then every civil rights decision will fall by the same distorted standards used to abrogate this near five decade precedent.
Over 80% of Americans oppose this. Think about what it says that Republican-appointed justices feel comfortable essentially invalidating the legitimacy of their entire institution to impose their will, which is rooted in a religious belief that fetuses are humans (they aren’t).
Not to mention that banning abortion doesn’t reduce abortion, it just reduces SAFE abortion meaning more women will DIE during the procedure. Or that access to safe, legal abortion leads to FEWER ABORTIONS and SAVES LIVES. There’s nothing pro-life about any of this. ZERO.
The ancient recognition of a right as a prerequisite to its contemporary acceptance defies the role of the court to be the nonpartisan branch of government that protects the lives, liberties and property of all persons from the overreach of Congress, the President, and the states
As for the claim that we can only respect or uphold rights that are explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, this would invalidate most of the rights we currently have. The majority of our freedoms are unenumerated; meaning they are inferred based on the text of the Constitution
Any conservative who thinks it’s some sort of “gotcha!” to say “show me where in the Constitution it says you have the right to an abortion! You can’t! Ha!” it’s not. You are just very very stupid.
You know what is in the constitution? Slavery. So why do we think it’s sole perfect,handed down from Moses, document?
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which is rooted in a religious belief that fetuses are humans (they aren’t).

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this thinking is evil ......and stupid beyond words

this thinking is evil ......and stupid beyond words

it’s taking self centeredness to evangelical heights.

and it is stupid, you don’t need to be religious to think an unborn is a person. you just need to have a little honesty and empathy and heart.
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So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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you just need to have a little honesty and empathy and heart.
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you just need to have a little honesty and empathy and heart.
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wel we ( including the most middle of the road guy here) proved you were lying about what the GOP did to “vets”, so you have zero credibility on the other issues.
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wel we ( including the most middle of the road guy here) proved you were lying about what the GOP did to “vets”, so you have zero credibility on the other issues.
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Who is the most middle of the road here?

Who is the most middle of the road here?

TDF has agreed with, and disagreed with, everybody.
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TDF has agreed with, and disagreed with, everybody.
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I have never seen that. He usually just comments on people from the left's posts.