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Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 09:05 AM
Jim stop changing the subject gerrymandering is another area Republicans like to cheat on a scale not seen on the democrats side



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ah. the democrats cheat, but they do it an acceptable
number of times. The gop, in hour i biased estimate, goes over the allowable frequency.

and i keep forgetting only you get to change the subject. What was i thinking?

wdmso
11-06-2022, 09:25 AM
US midterms: The conspiracy theorists running to control 2024 vote

A coalition of candidates who have falsely claimed the last US election was stolen is running for office - this time in a bid to control the 2024 vote in key swing states. The group's founders also have deep connections to another conspiracy theory, QAnon.
When Donald Trump called him up onto the stage at a rally in Nevada last month, Jim Marchant seized the opportunity to hammer home his campaign message.
"We have something in common," he told the raucous crowd, with the former president standing beside him. "President Trump and I both lost an election in 2020 because of a rigged election."
While both men continue to spread false theories about their past defeats - the Nevada businessman lost his race for Congress - Mr Marchant also made clear he's looking to the future.
"When my coalition of secretary of state candidates around the country get elected we're going to fix the whole country and President Trump is going to be president again in 2024," he declared.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63490938


Jim only you would suggest a serial killer and and a murdered who killed 1 person . Are the same
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Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 11:06 AM
US midterms: The conspiracy theorists running to control 2024 vote

A coalition of candidates who have falsely claimed the last US election was stolen is running for office - this time in a bid to control the 2024 vote in key swing states. The group's founders also have deep connections to another conspiracy theory, QAnon.
When Donald Trump called him up onto the stage at a rally in Nevada last month, Jim Marchant seized the opportunity to hammer home his campaign message.
"We have something in common," he told the raucous crowd, with the former president standing beside him. "President Trump and I both lost an election in 2020 because of a rigged election."
While both men continue to spread false theories about their past defeats - the Nevada businessman lost his race for Congress - Mr Marchant also made clear he's looking to the future.
"When my coalition of secretary of state candidates around the country get elected we're going to fix the whole country and President Trump is going to be president again in 2024," he declared.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63490938


Jim only you would suggest a serial killer and and a murdered who killed 1 person . Are the same
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so your side has cheated a total of
one time? is that what youre saying?

wdmso
11-06-2022, 01:50 PM
so your side has cheated a total of
one time? is that what youre saying?

Playing dumb again ?

Keep trying to suggest your Team isn’t all in on destroying our elections with their never stopping lies . And candidates who’ll only approve elections they win and change the ones they don’t

Why do you support this behavior.
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Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 02:03 PM
Playing dumb again ?

Keep trying to suggest your Team isn’t all in on destroying our elections with their never stopping lies . And candidates who’ll only approve elections they win and change the ones they don’t

Why do you support this behavior.
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white powder mailed to Keri Lakes campaign hq. that’s not trying to destroy elections

opposing id laws and advocating for mail in balloting, which even according to the NY Times, is vulnerable to fraud.

hunker down, einstein, you’re in for a rough week. your side had the reins for two years. After the afghan disaster,,it was one flop after another.

Fatty Abrams headed to msnbc where she belongs.

Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 02:07 PM
wayne i posted a video of a liberal
saying if the gop wins, children will
be killed

is that supporting free and informed elections?

have fun answering that.

“i duh, giu took it out of context, a duh…”.

Pete F.
11-06-2022, 02:45 PM
Poor victim doesn’t realize that it looks as if the Democratic Party will have the best midterm performance by a party in the White House in two decades.
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Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 02:51 PM
Poor victim doesn’t realize that it looks as if the Democratic Party will have the best midterm performance by a party in the White House in two decades.
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has desantis conceded yet?

Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 02:54 PM
Poor victim doesn’t realize that it looks as if the Democratic Party will have the best midterm performance by a party in the White House in two decades.
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obama lost 13 seats in 2008. the democrats are going to lose more in two days. what data are you looking at?

Pete F.
11-06-2022, 08:56 PM
obama lost 13 seats in 2008. the democrats are going to lose more in two days. what data are you looking at?

The last Trumplican lost the House, Senate and the Presidency.

And you’re still listening to Ronna Romney.

Meanwhile Donald Trump has put Ron DeSantis in a hilariously precarious position. Does he retaliate giving Trump a nickname and further this feud thus alienating the MAGA movement or does he sit there and act like the weak coward he always was? Either way this is going to be ENTERTAINING.
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Pete F.
11-06-2022, 09:08 PM
ABC/W Post poll (registered voters):

A year ago: R 51% - D 41%. That would have been a wave.

Now: R 49% - D 48%. The one point margin unchanged from six week ago (R 47% - D 46%). Likely voters are almost same at R 50% - D 48%.

No wave. A level playing field with slight R tilt.

NBC poll:

D 47% - R 47% (registered voters).

D 48% - R 47% (likely voters).

A level playing field.

Ya better send Ronna Romney more money
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Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 09:12 PM
The last Trumplican lost the House, Senate and the Presidency.

And you’re still listening to Ronna Romney.

Meanwhile Donald Trump has put Ron DeSantis in a hilariously precarious position. Does he retaliate giving Trump a nickname and further this feud thus alienating the MAGA movement or does he sit there and act like the weak coward he always was? Either way this is going to be ENTERTAINING.
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what’s your prediction for house seats pete? democrats gain 75?

Pete F.
11-06-2022, 09:35 PM
I’ll leave that to you

Someone who believes they were created by God on the 8th day should be in a psychiatric hospital, not the Floriduh governor's mansion.
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Jim in CT
11-06-2022, 09:58 PM
I’ll leave that to you

Someone who believes they were created by God on the 8th day should be in a psychiatric hospital, not the Floriduh governor's mansion.
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well you said not long ago the democrats were poised to win, you said today they’d do better than -13.

well he is in the FL governors house, and even though his state has more people than the state of NY, FL spends about half what NY spends, there’s no state income tax in FL, and what he created in FL, is a place where huge numbers of people want to move. He’s spending way less money, and creating a place where people are flocking to.

That’s called “winning.”.

i’d say the gop picks up 25-30 house seats ( above average), and senate stays 50-50. but my predictions are awful.

scottw
11-07-2022, 05:50 AM
Meanwhile Donald Trump has put Ron DeSantis in a hilariously precarious position.

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this is uniquely republican obviously...

no wait....

“I’m going to now direct this at Vice President Biden: I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground,” she said, looking over at him. “But I also believe, and it’s personal—it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day. And that little girl was me.”

Biden, taken aback, plodded through a response. She was mischaracterizing his position, he said. That’s not what he stood for, and she knew that. He found his way to the end of the answer and stopped speaking.

A few minutes later, the moderators paused for a commercial break. Biden leaned over to Pete Buttigieg, at the podium to his right. They barely knew each other, but Biden was looking for someone to share the moment with.

“Well,” he said, according to multiple people to whom the conversation was relayed afterward. “That was some f---ing bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.”


Jill Biden said Kamala Harris could ‘go f*** herself’ after 2019 debate attack on Joe, new book claims...

‘With what he cares about, what he fights for, what he’s committed to, you get up there and call him a racist without basis?’

:biglaugh:

Jim in CT
11-07-2022, 06:12 AM
this is uniquely republican obviously...

no wait....

“I’m going to now direct this at Vice President Biden: I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground,” she said, looking over at him. “But I also believe, and it’s personal—it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day. And that little girl was me.”

Biden, taken aback, plodded through a response. She was mischaracterizing his position, he said. That’s not what he stood for, and she knew that. He found his way to the end of the answer and stopped speaking.

A few minutes later, the moderators paused for a commercial break. Biden leaned over to Pete Buttigieg, at the podium to his right. They barely knew each other, but Biden was looking for someone to share the moment with.

“Well,” he said, according to multiple people to whom the conversation was relayed afterward. “That was some f---ing bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.”


Jill Biden said Kamala Harris could ‘go f*** herself’ after 2019 debate attack on Joe, new book claims...

‘With what he cares about, what he fights for, what he’s committed to, you get up there and call him a racist without basis?’

:biglaugh:

but it’s OK when democrats do it.

Pete F.
11-07-2022, 08:28 AM
Poor victim, don’t worry Herschel Walker claims he has a plan to combat inflation, but he’s not giving it away right now because Revered Warnock will steal it.
Ever wonder why Trumplicans don’t explain their plans for battling inflation and reducing prices? Because they don’t exist.

If the GOP regains power, they’ll pass tax cuts for the rich that will not solve inflation. Let me remind you: The GOP doesn't give a damn about inflation. All they care about is padding the pockets of their ultra-rich donors.

Clorox has recently raised prices by 12%. But the company doesn’t have to worry about losing customers because they already control ~60% of the consumer bleach market.

This isn’t the “free” market. Corporations are raising prices because they have the monopoly power to do so.
In some parts of America, Clorox(bleach) is a preferred medicine. Remember.
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scottw
11-07-2022, 08:51 AM
how bitter is pete going to be this week?...:exp:

Jim in CT
11-07-2022, 08:54 AM
how bitter is pete going to be this week?...:exp:

Hey, my recent predictions in these big elections haven't been much more accurate than Pete's have been, so while I obviously hope he has reason to be bitter, who the heck knows?

I can't believe Fetterman may well be going to the US Senate.

Jim in CT
11-07-2022, 09:07 AM
Poor victim, don’t worry Herschel Walker claims he has a plan to combat inflation, but he’s not giving it away right now because Revered Warnock will steal it.
Ever wonder why Trumplicans don’t explain their plans for battling inflation and reducing prices? Because they don’t exist.

If the GOP regains power, they’ll pass tax cuts for the rich that will not solve inflation. Let me remind you: The GOP doesn't give a damn about inflation. All they care about is padding the pockets of their ultra-rich donors.

Clorox has recently raised prices by 12%. But the company doesn’t have to worry about losing customers because they already control ~60% of the consumer bleach market.

This isn’t the “free” market. Corporations are raising prices because they have the monopoly power to do so.
In some parts of America, Clorox(bleach) is a preferred medicine. Remember.
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Who's the victim? Scott destroyed your argument, and I piled on. In what universe would anyone conclude we were the victims in that exchange?

"Poor victim, don’t worry Herschel Walker claims he has a plan to combat inflation, but he’s not giving it away right now because Revered Warnock will steal it. "

Is that sort of like Biden claiming he was going to cure cancer, but only if he won?

"If the GOP regains power, they’ll pass tax cuts for the rich"

Trumps tax cuts did not only benefit the rich. He lowered the marginal rate for every single tax bracket, and he doubled the standard deduction, which increases the number of people who pay nothing.

So I don't know what you're basing it on, when you say the next round of tax cuts will only benefit the wealthy.

"that will not solve inflation."

Is anyone saying tax cuts are the answer to inflation? Having less money in circulation, and addressing supply side issues, will help solve inflation.

"Let me remind you: The GOP doesn't give a damn about inflation. "

If you say so. Funny though, the democrats are the ones who have been dismissing inflation for the past year. Must be nice to be mind reader, I guess that explains why you're always right.

"Clorox has recently raised prices by 12%"

Wages are up, cost of raw materials are up. That means prices will go up.

Your side is whining about price gouging being the main culprit here, and that's easy enough to prove. Look at profit margins (not profit dollars, but margins) for the S&P 500 for the past 20 years.

The 5-year average profit margin for the S&P 500 is 11.3%. For the 3rd quarter 2022, it is 12.0%. Not clear evidence of big time price gouging. profit margins are expected to increase to 12.5% next year. A whopping 1.2% above the 5-year average.

"Corporations are raising prices because they have the monopoly power to do so."

Wages aren't way up? Cost of raw materials aren't way up?

Poor victim.

https://insight.factset.com/sp-500-reporting-a-lower-net-profit-margin-for-5th-straight-quarter#:~:text=The%20(blended)%20net%20profit%20m argin,net%20profit%20margin%20(11.3%25).

Pete F.
11-07-2022, 12:46 PM
THREE multibillionaires now own more wealth than the bottom half of America – 160 million Americans.
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Jim in CT
11-07-2022, 12:52 PM
THREE multibillionaires now own more wealth than the bottom half of America – 160 million Americans.
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did the three billionaires steal anything from anyone Pete?

Even Biden said recently that success isn’t finite, that one persons success isn’t the cause of anyone else’s struggle.

which party is running the federal government at the moment? if that wealth gap is at its worst now, whose fault is it?

The wealth gap isn’t fair, but elon musk isn’t the reason why poor people exist.

The Dad Fisherman
11-07-2022, 01:44 PM
Why hasn’t Biden fixed this?
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Pete F.
11-07-2022, 02:14 PM
did the three billionaires steal anything from anyone Pete?

Even Biden said recently that success isn’t finite, that one persons success isn’t the cause of anyone else’s struggle.

which party is running the federal government at the moment? if that wealth gap is at its worst now, whose fault is it?

The wealth gap isn’t fair, but elon musk isn’t the reason why poor people exist.

Wealth never “trickles down”
It “trickles out” in excess profits, in tax avoidance & tax evasion.
It’s why the gap between rich & poor just grows.
It’s why tax havens & food banks both flourish.
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Jim in CT
11-07-2022, 04:41 PM
Wealth never “trickles down”
It “trickles out” in excess profits, in tax avoidance & tax evasion.
It’s why the gap between rich & poor just grows.
It’s why tax havens & food banks both flourish.
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Wealth almost always trickles down. Wealthy people don't bury their money in their yards.

Why won't you answer, why didn't the democrats fix this?

wdmso
11-07-2022, 05:50 PM
Under Republicans, not another penny will go to Ukraine,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) declared at a stump speech last Thursday in Iowa.

Can’t wait to see the committees she ends up on. So Kevin can be speaker.
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wdmso
11-07-2022, 05:54 PM
white powder mailed to Keri Lakes campaign hq. that’s not trying to destroy elections

opposing id laws and advocating for mail in balloting, which even according to the NY Times, is vulnerable to fraud.

hunker down, einstein, you’re in for a rough week. your side had the reins for two years. After the afghan disaster,,it was one flop after another.

Fatty Abrams headed to msnbc where she belongs.

white powder mailed to Keri Lakes campaign hq

How about I respond like you and all you’re republican pals do to everything

It’s was a false flag operation she sent it to herself
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wdmso
11-07-2022, 05:57 PM
wayne i posted a video of a liberal
saying if the gop wins, children will
be killed

is that supporting free and informed elections?

have fun answering that.

“i duh, giu took it out of context, a duh…”.

No Jim you posted one comment completely out of contex to the entire rest of the what the man was saying.. trust me no one is surprised
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Pete F.
11-08-2022, 06:59 AM
did the three billionaires steal anything from anyone Pete?

Even Biden said recently that success isn’t finite, that one persons success isn’t the cause of anyone else’s struggle.

which party is running the federal government at the moment? if that wealth gap is at its worst now, whose fault is it?

The wealth gap isn’t fair, but elon musk isn’t the reason why poor people exist.

I didn’t say he was, you falsely claimed I did
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scottw
11-08-2022, 07:00 AM
I didn’t say he was, you falsely claimed I did

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poor victim :hf1:

Pete F.
11-08-2022, 07:00 AM
Meanwhile the Republican chair of State Assembly's elections committee in Wisconsin tries to get all military ballots thrown out.
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Pete F.
11-08-2022, 07:08 AM
Why hasn’t Biden fixed this?
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Democrats: We'll send nearly $80 billion to the IRS over the next 10 years and improve enforcement against rich tax cheats.

Republicans: We'll cut the IRS budget by 20% and try to prevent the agency from cracking down on tax evasion.

See the difference?
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scottw
11-08-2022, 07:13 AM
No Jim you posted one comment completely out of contex to the entire rest of the what the man was saying.. trust me no one is surprised
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ummm no...he was consistently stupid throughout his
remarks.....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1588215511808020481

Jim in CT
11-08-2022, 07:18 AM
No Jim you posted one comment completely out of contex to the entire rest of the what the man was saying.. trust me no one is surprised
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fine. tell us what the intended context was, i’m which it’s not crazy to say children will be killed if the gop wins

Specify the context that guy meant to use, which i misstated.

I’m certain you do t know what “out of context” means, you just don’t know what else to say.

The Dad Fisherman
11-08-2022, 07:41 AM
Democrats: We'll send nearly $80 billion to the IRS over the next 10 years and improve enforcement against rich tax cheats.

Republicans: We'll cut the IRS budget by 20% and try to prevent the agency from cracking down on tax evasion.

See the difference?
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Are those direct “quotes” again?
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wdmso
11-08-2022, 08:59 AM
fine. tell us what the intended context was, i’m which it’s not crazy to say children will be killed if the gop wins

Specify the context that guy meant to use, which i misstated.

I’m certain you do t know what “out of context” means, you just don’t know what else to say.


You really are clueless and are in the cult if you actually think he was. saying republicans were going to personal and physically . Kill children by rounding them up

The GOP will be killing more than children and many of their supporters if they do what they want to do and cut entitlements programs
All while once again claiming they are being fiscally responsible .



And don’t even mention how many Ukraines will die this winter when Republicans pull funding

But again you’re ability to see the words of people you disagree with literally .

But all republicans words about the election denialism or not allowing people to fix their ballots and anything that passes their lips

You avoid again and again like the plague..
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scottw
11-08-2022, 09:40 AM
You really are clueless and are in the cult if you actually think he was. saying republicans were going to personal and physically . Kill children by rounding them up

The GOP will be killing more than children and many of their supporters if they do what they want to do and cut entitlements programs
All while once again claiming they are being fiscally responsible .



And don’t even mention how many Ukraines will die this winter when Republicans pull funding

But again you’re ability to see the words of people you disagree with literally .

But all republicans words about the election denialism or not allowing people to fix their ballots and anything that passes their lips

You avoid again and again like the plague..
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you probably think this is a meaningful contribution :rotf2:

wdmso
11-08-2022, 09:44 AM
Kremlin-connected entrepreneur Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted Monday that he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue to do so — confirming for the first time the accusations that he has rejected for years.

"Gentlemen, we have interfered, are interfering and will interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do," Prigozhin boasted in remarks posted on social media.

So how should we take this literally or hyperbole

Maybe Scott can tell us
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Jim in CT
11-08-2022, 10:34 AM
Kremlin-connected entrepreneur Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted Monday that he had interfered in U.S. elections and would continue to do so — confirming for the first time the accusations that he has rejected for years.

"Gentlemen, we have interfered, are interfering and will interfere. Carefully, precisely, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do," Prigozhin boasted in remarks posted on social media.

So how should we take this literally or hyperbole

Maybe Scott can tell us
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what did they do?

Jim in CT
11-08-2022, 10:38 AM
You really are clueless and are in the cult if you actually think he was. saying republicans were going to personal and physically . Kill children by rounding them up

The GOP will be killing more than children and many of their supporters if they do what they want to do and cut entitlements programs
All while once again claiming they are being fiscally responsible .



And don’t even mention how many Ukraines will die this winter when Republicans pull funding

But again you’re ability to see the words of people you disagree with literally .

But all republicans words about the election denialism or not allowing people to fix their ballots and anything that passes their lips

You avoid again and again like the plague..
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you tell me i took it in the wrong context, but you won’t tell
us what the correct context was.

i don’t think you watched the video.

watch it, and tell us what he meant. he said children would be arrested and, conceivably killed, if the gop wins.

Please tell me what he meant and what the correct context was.

can you point to a single republicans who said he will vote to gut social
security or medicare? without offering a replacement? who is saying that, exactly? and did they mean it, or are you taking it out of context?

i don’t avoid anything you post. why would
i?

Pete F.
11-08-2022, 12:39 PM
Here ya go and of course they haven’t done it yet, but just like the things the theocratic court would never do…..

1. Top House Republican Kevin McCarthy Hints at Cuts

During a recent interview with Punchbowl News, top House Republican Kevin McCarthy made clear he wanted to cut spending. He did not specifically mention Social Security or Medicare, but they are among the biggest parts of the federal budget and have long been a target of Republicans. McCarthy explained that spending cuts were necessary to reduce the national debt, but his party also wants to extend the Trump tax cuts, which are already on pace to add nearly $2 trillion to the deficit.

2. Influential House Republicans Threaten to Use the Debt Ceiling to Make Cuts to the Programs

The week before McCarthy’s interview, the four Republicans fighting to serve as House Budget Committee Chairman in the next Congress told Bloomberg Government that they would use the debt ceiling deadline to force cuts to programs Democrats support, such as Social Security and Medicare.

“Our main focus has got to be on nondiscretionary—it’s got to be on entitlements,” such as Social Security and Medicare, Rep. Buddy Carter (R-Ga.) said.

The Republicans told Blomberg they wanted to increase the eligibility age for both programs and/or reduce benefits for some wealthier Americans. Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma explicitly stated that the debt ceiling deadline is “obviously a leverage point” for achieving their goals.

Raising the eligibility age is “the worst way to cut benefits,” according to Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.

“It hurts most the people who can’t work any longer. These are people with less education and physically harder jobs. They get stuck with lower benefits for the rest of their lives,” she told Politifact.

3. Sen. Ron Johnson Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Single Year

Over the summer, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson straight up came out and said Social Security and Medicare should not be guaranteed—as they currently are—and should instead be negotiated by Congress every single year. Johnson, who is running for a third term in November, made his comments during an interview on the Regular Joe Show, hosted by Joe Giganti.

Speaking on the program, Johnson argued that mandatory programs like Social Security and Medicare should be reformed and fall under “discretionary spending”—which means Congress could cut funding for them or eliminate them altogether.

4. Sen. Rick Scott Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Five Years

In February, Florida Sen. Rick Scott released his “Plan to Rescue America,” a grab-bag of extreme policies, including a proposal to “sunset” all federal legislation in five years, requiring Congress to re-authorize every federal law, including those governing Medicare and Social Security. This would ease the path for Republicans to ultimately kill them.

5. 157 House Republicans Backed Cuts to the Programs

The Republican Study Committee (RSC)—a group of 157 House Republicans—this year released its “Blueprint to Save America,” where they propose raising the eligibility ages for Medicare and Social Security and withholding payments to those who retired early and earned over a certain amount, effectively making cuts to the program.

The RSC isn’t some fringe group; it includes 74% of House Republicans, including North Carolina Senate nominee Ted Budd, who’s previously voted for cuts to Medicare and Social Security, voted to raise the retirement age, and recently hinted he might vote for cuts to the programs in the future.

6. Sen. Lindsey Graham Called Reforming Social Security and Medicare a “Must”

Finally, we come to South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who in June said “entitlement reform is a must” and suggested he’s open to changing the income cap and eligibility age for programs like Social Security and Medicare.
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wdmso
11-08-2022, 12:52 PM
DeSantis official says Justice Dept. can’t send monitors to 3 Florida counties

So much for election integrity

Just another stunt for 2024
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wdmso
11-08-2022, 12:54 PM
Here ya go and of course they haven’t done it yet, but just like the things the theocratic court would never do…..

1. Top House Republican Kevin McCarthy Hints at Cuts

During a recent interview with Punchbowl News, top House Republican Kevin McCarthy made clear he wanted to cut spending. He did not specifically mention Social Security or Medicare, but they are among the biggest parts of the federal budget and have long been a target of Republicans. McCarthy explained that spending cuts were necessary to reduce the national debt, but his party also wants to extend the Trump tax cuts, which are already on pace to add nearly $2 trillion to the deficit.

2. Influential House Republicans Threaten to Use the Debt Ceiling to Make Cuts to the Programs

The week before McCarthy’s interview, the four Republicans fighting to serve as House Budget Committee Chairman in the next Congress told Bloomberg Government that they would use the debt ceiling deadline to force cuts to programs Democrats support, such as Social Security and Medicare.

“Our main focus has got to be on nondiscretionary—it’s got to be on entitlements,” such as Social Security and Medicare, Rep. Buddy Carter (R-Ga.) said.

The Republicans told Blomberg they wanted to increase the eligibility age for both programs and/or reduce benefits for some wealthier Americans. Rep. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma explicitly stated that the debt ceiling deadline is “obviously a leverage point” for achieving their goals.

Raising the eligibility age is “the worst way to cut benefits,” according to Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College.

“It hurts most the people who can’t work any longer. These are people with less education and physically harder jobs. They get stuck with lower benefits for the rest of their lives,” she told Politifact.

3. Sen. Ron Johnson Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Single Year

Over the summer, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson straight up came out and said Social Security and Medicare should not be guaranteed—as they currently are—and should instead be negotiated by Congress every single year. Johnson, who is running for a third term in November, made his comments during an interview on the Regular Joe Show, hosted by Joe Giganti.

Speaking on the program, Johnson argued that mandatory programs like Social Security and Medicare should be reformed and fall under “discretionary spending”—which means Congress could cut funding for them or eliminate them altogether.

4. Sen. Rick Scott Said Social Security and Medicare Should Be Renegotiated Every Five Years

In February, Florida Sen. Rick Scott released his “Plan to Rescue America,” a grab-bag of extreme policies, including a proposal to “sunset” all federal legislation in five years, requiring Congress to re-authorize every federal law, including those governing Medicare and Social Security. This would ease the path for Republicans to ultimately kill them.

5. 157 House Republicans Backed Cuts to the Programs

The Republican Study Committee (RSC)—a group of 157 House Republicans—this year released its “Blueprint to Save America,” where they propose raising the eligibility ages for Medicare and Social Security and withholding payments to those who retired early and earned over a certain amount, effectively making cuts to the program.

The RSC isn’t some fringe group; it includes 74% of House Republicans, including North Carolina Senate nominee Ted Budd, who’s previously voted for cuts to Medicare and Social Security, voted to raise the retirement age, and recently hinted he might vote for cuts to the programs in the future.

6. Sen. Lindsey Graham Called Reforming Social Security and Medicare a “Must”

Finally, we come to South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who in June said “entitlement reform is a must” and suggested he’s open to changing the income cap and eligibility age for programs like Social Security and Medicare.
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Jim doesn’t understand fox doesn’t play those clips ..
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The Dad Fisherman
11-08-2022, 01:19 PM
DeSantis official says Justice Dept. can’t send monitors to 3 Florida counties

So much for election integrity

Just another stunt for 2024
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What are you worried about? Election fraud is a hoax, remember
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Jim in CT
11-08-2022, 02:27 PM
Jim doesn’t understand fox doesn’t play those clips ..
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jim understands that pete’s “examples” state that McCarthy never specified social security or medicare.

i asked for examples of republicans who are on record for saying they’ll do what you accuse them
of. seems like you ought o be able to provide some examples if you didn’t make it up.

SS needs to be modified, it’s bleeding money. raising age requirements and telling zillionaires they won’t get benefits, might save SS.

Wayne, are you aware that SS will be bankrupt in our lifetimes? what would you do about it?

meinst see one example, ZERO, of proposed gutting of SS.

i’m not eligible until I’m 67.5, that’s older than my parents. minimum ages have been increased before.

Wayne i know you’re in a union, and you therefore have been told that pensions can be funded with hugs and folk songs, but it ain’t so.

When will
florida children start getting slaughtered? that’s what the gop wants to do right? kill kids and eliminate SS and medicare.

wdmso
11-08-2022, 03:29 PM
ummm no...he was consistently stupid throughout his
remarks.....

https://twitter.com/i/status/1588215511808020481


this is your source The Post Millennial is a conservative Canadian online news magazine started in 2017. It publishes national and local news and has a large amount of opinion content. It has been criticized for publishing false and misleading stories about COVID-19] as well as its opaque funding and political connections.


funny look who responded to this

Kyle Rittenhouse
@ThisIsKyleR
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7h
Vote like your right to bear arms depends on it.


and
Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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21h
It’s good to know Democrats still have job options after tomorrow!


and of course Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG
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8h
I wish Pres Trump announced last night in Ohio, but he chose to put everyone else first.

He’s held 30 rallies in 17 states, hosted 43 telerallies & 52 candidate fundraisers, & endorsed 285 candidates while being politically persecuted.

He’s put everyone else first all along.


Keep denying your not a MAGA lover :faga:

wdmso
11-08-2022, 03:32 PM
What are you worried about? Election fraud is a hoax, remember
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whos worried? just more of the same Hypocritical nonsense from the right..

Next hey will be saying their going to fix inflation and lower gas Prices
by investigating Hunter .. and you'll Heal like a good dog :rolleyes:

wdmso
11-08-2022, 03:36 PM
jim understands that pete’s “examples” state that McCarthy never specified social security or medicare.

i asked for examples of republicans who are on record for saying they’ll do what you accuse them
of. seems like you ought o be able to provide some examples if you didn’t make it up.

SS needs to be modified, it’s bleeding money. raising age requirements and telling zillionaires they won’t get benefits, might save SS.

Wayne, are you aware that SS will be bankrupt in our lifetimes? what would you do about it?

meinst see one example, ZERO, of proposed gutting of SS.

i’m not eligible until I’m 67.5, that’s older than my parents. minimum ages have been increased before.

Wayne i know you’re in a union, and you therefore have been told that pensions can be funded with hugs and folk songs, but it ain’t so.

When will
florida children start getting slaughtered? that’s what the gop wants to do right? kill kids and eliminate SS and medicare.



McCarthy never specified social security or medicare. or any policy if you want to be 100% correct

And keep your head in the sand GOP policies don't kill children ..

Ask the parents of the children from uvalde .. how they like Abbotts wild wild west Gun policies

Pete F.
11-08-2022, 09:20 PM
Jim you’ll be all set, with Republicans denying women the right to make their own reproductive decisions, there will be a dramatic increase of children born into untenable financial circumstances. This undoubtedly will increase the number of women who will need to move back in with their parents. And, with Republicans promising to kill social security, this will put many seniors in difficult financial circumstances, resulting in seniors needing to move in with their adult children. So this cruel combination of Republican priorities pretty much guarantees painful and harmful circumstances for wide swaths of the population.
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Jim in CT
11-08-2022, 10:21 PM
Jim you’ll be all set, with Republicans denying women the right to make their own reproductive decisions, there will be a dramatic increase of children born into untenable financial circumstances. This undoubtedly will increase the number of women who will need to move back in with their parents. And, with Republicans promising to kill social security, this will put many seniors in difficult financial circumstances, resulting in seniors needing to move in with their adult children. So this cruel combination of Republican priorities pretty much guarantees painful and harmful circumstances for wide swaths of the population.
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pete, what’s your opinion of the poll you shared recently, that showed Crist winning?

would you rather be born into untenable financial circumstances, or be slaughtered? me and my brothers were born into rough financial circumstances. But it was a lot better than being slaughtered.

If women don’t want to raise the baby, there’s this thing called “adoption” that liberals never, ever mention. No one has to raise a baby. Nobody. There’s a huge waiting list of desperate people who
want a baby.

Look it up. It’s true!

How was Crists acceptance speech? Was it good?

You’ll be ok. Probably not a red tsunami. Just a normal pendulum
swing to the right. Probably.

scottw
11-09-2022, 04:09 AM
You’ll be ok. Probably not a red tsunami. Just a normal pendulum
swing to the right. Probably.



did democracy die? :scream:

scottw
11-09-2022, 04:13 AM
this is your source The Post Millennial is a conservative Canadian online news magazine started in 2017. It publishes national and local news and has a large amount of opinion content. It has been criticized for publishing false and misleading stories about COVID-19] as well as its opaque funding and political connections.




what it IS Sherlock, is the video of the interview that you continue to insist is being taken out of context.....it doesn't matter who posted it or commented on it on twitter...it is the video of the interview....good grief

Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 06:18 AM
what it IS Sherlock, is the video of the interview that you continue to insist is being taken out of context.....it doesn't mater who posted it or commented on it on twitter...it is the video of the interview....good grief

correct.

wayne, are you suggesting that video is fake?

first you said i took it out of context. so i ask you for the proper context, and you respond by questioning the source.


Have you even watched the video? probably not, yet you know i took it out of context.

not even CLOSE to a red wave.

scottw
11-09-2022, 06:38 AM
not even CLOSE to a red wave.



it's a start....it's going to be a dark winter for dark brandon....

Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 07:04 AM
it's a start....it's going to be a dark winter for dark brandon....

i dunno. if the gop couldn’t triumph with democrats delivering these results, when can we?

it was a terrible night for trump candidates.

in GA, the gop and the stupid libertarians need to make friends. this will be two senate elections in a row the libertarians took away from the gop. i can’t see walker competing in a runoff without Kemp on the ballot to bolster him.

and there’s literally no reason to look at polls anymore.

Got Stripers
11-09-2022, 07:18 AM
Average house seat pick up in the mid term is a big number, add high inflation, high gas and food prices, low approval ratings and we should have seen the big red wave Fox and those drinking their coolaid (go Scott), when does the Republican Party finally divorce itself from Trump and the crazy? Oh yeah, other than Florida, the red Latino wave didn’t happen either.

Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 07:27 AM
Average house seat pick up in the mid term is a big number, add high inflation, high gas and food prices, low approval ratings and we should have seen the big red wave Fox and those drinking their coolaid (go Scott), when does the Republican Party finally divorce itself from Trump and the crazy? Oh yeah, other than Florida, the red Latino wave didn’t happen either.

i’m just asking, not mocking, what’s the data on how hispanics voted?

terrible night for trump-backed weak candidates. Trump serves an unbelievable purpose in 2016, now he has to go.

Pete F.
11-09-2022, 07:34 AM
“The only seats where the Republicans are making gains right now is when the seats were drawn to give them gains.”

Thank you @SteveKornacki for making it plain.
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Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 07:38 AM
“The only seats where the Republicans are making gains right now is when the seats were drawn to give them gains.”

Thank you @SteveKornacki for making it plain.
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they may well flip nevada. so there goes that lie.

scottw
11-09-2022, 07:46 AM
i dunno. if the gop couldn’t triumph with democrats delivering these results, when can we?



yeah but fedderwoman is the dems brightest rising star going forward:rotf2:

Pete F.
11-09-2022, 08:01 AM
i’m just asking, not mocking, what’s the data on how hispanics voted?

terrible night for trump-backed weak candidates. Trump serves an unbelievable purpose in 2016, now he has to go.

Use the Google

As far as Latinos, identity trumps policy every single time. Latinos want so badly to identify as white and conservative. Lots of misogyny in Latino culture. So it’s not a surprise that they’re flocking to the GOP.
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Pete F.
11-09-2022, 08:04 AM
they may well flip nevada. so there goes that lie.

It’s hard to underscore enough how damaging this election is to the GOP.

There’s no avoiding how obviously big a problem Trump is and they’re stuck with him.

There’s no one to lead them out of it.
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wdmso
11-09-2022, 08:12 AM
yeah but fedderwoman is the dems brightest rising star going forward:rotf2:

Do fret Walkers the GOPs brightest rising star is still in the Game
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Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 08:13 AM
Use the Google

As far as Latinos, identity trumps policy every single time. Latinos want so badly to identify as white and conservative. Lots of misogyny in Latino culture. So it’s not a surprise that they’re flocking to the GOP.
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i did use google, and didn’t see anything. the question was for GS, why not let him answer. i’m just curious what he saw.

Trump isn’t what’s bringing latinos to the right, and i never even hinted that he was. It’s the lefts insane lurch into gross weirdness on social issues that’s maybe pushing hispanics to the right . mexicans are hugely catholic. you can’t be a good catholic and vote for democrats right now, you just can’t. hispanics don’t like men sharing bathrooms with women, they don’t like men physically competing with women, they don’t like being told that men can get pregnant. If hispanics are moving a little to the right, that’s why. it has absolutely nothing to do with trump.

Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 08:15 AM
yeah but fedderwoman is the dems brightest rising star going forward:rotf2:

the democrat who got elected governor of PA ran a terrific campaign, but he portrayed himself as an actual moderate, so that may be as far as he can go. He was very smart. I wouldn’t mind seeing him go further, but then progressives won’t like him.

wdmso
11-09-2022, 08:19 AM
And on newsmax the hoodie winning

The response is as expected

One was I hope he strokes out in office

And If this is another greatest example of a rigged election, I don’t know what it is. And mentally incapacitated candidate, whose wife is a communist and an illegal immigrant is voted in the office. This screams of some thing and it sure isn’t proper voting either by the Pennsylvania citizens who completely lost their minds or there’s voter fraud it’s one or the other or both
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Pete F.
11-09-2022, 08:23 AM
i did use google, and didn’t see anything. the question was for GS, why not let him answer. i’m just curious what he saw.

Trump isn’t what’s bringing latinos to the right, and i never even hinted that he was. It’s the lefts insane lurch into gross weirdness on social issues that’s maybe pushing hispanics to the right . mexicans are hugely catholic. you can’t be a good catholic and vote for democrats right now, you just can’t. hispanics don’t like men sharing bathrooms with women, they don’t like men physically competing with women, they don’t like being told that men can get pregnant. If hispanics are moving a little to the right, that’s why. it has absolutely nothing to do with trump.

The Faux worm has eaten your brain.

You’re triggered by the word trump, I didn’t mention him.

“ As far as Latinos, identity trumps policy every single time.”

Now you’re reading Latinos minds and painting them as a monolithic group, that’s the mistake all politicians make.
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Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 08:23 AM
And on newsmax the hoodie winning

The response is as expected

One was I hope he strokes out in office

And If this is another greatest example of a rigged election, I don’t know what it is. And mentally incapacitated candidate, whose wife is a communist and an illegal immigrant is voted in the office. This screams of some thing and it sure isn’t proper voting either by the Pennsylvania citizens who completely lost their minds or there’s voter fraud it’s one or the other or both
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you took it out of context.

if you can play that card…

wdmso
11-09-2022, 08:24 AM
We’ll it’s looking like Kevin may have a hard time getting to be speaker

Seeing the GOP history of in fighting and with such a slim majority

It’s going to be interesting
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wdmso
11-09-2022, 08:26 AM
you took it out of context.

if you can play that card…

Their complete quotes

Jim nothing to take out of context.

A for effort. you may need to play cards better , you have a weak hand
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Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 08:31 AM
Their complete quotes

Jim nothing to take out of context.

A for effort. you may need to play cards better , you have a weak hand
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i was kidding wayne, obviously.

i posted the video of the democrat saying kids would be killed. the while quote is there. but you can’t admit it. you just questioned the source instead of addressing what’s in the video. this really is a waste.

Pete F.
11-09-2022, 08:40 AM
Maybe the GOP will realize that Trump getting indicted and going to jail may not be a bad thing.

There are strategic reasons to want this. If he can’t win, he’s a liability to the party, but his trial & conviction (??) would fire up a ton of conservatives to give Dems the boot. It seems like a winning proposition if they can walk the knife edge of looking outraged about it.
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wdmso
11-09-2022, 08:42 AM
i was kidding wayne, obviously.

i posted the video of the democrat saying kids would be killed. the while quote is there. but you can’t admit it. you just questioned the source instead of addressing what’s in the video. this really is a waste.

My mistake sorry. But I did address all that was in the video

Not just one extreme comment
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Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 08:51 AM
My mistake sorry. But I did address all that was in the video

Not just one extreme comment
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no worries!

the whole country is as divided as we are here.

I really really think the GOP will continue to underperform unless they put trump in the rear view mirror.

scottw
11-09-2022, 09:14 AM
Maybe the GOP will realize that Trump getting indicted and going to jail may not be a bad thing.


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I'm looking forward to it, I assume this will happen today as it would no longer be considered election tampering?

Pete F.
11-09-2022, 09:34 AM
I'm looking forward to it, I assume this will happen today as it would no longer be considered election tampering?

a month ago; Rs threaten violence if Trump indicted
Wed after Trump debacle: Rs ask what's taking Garland so long
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scottw
11-09-2022, 09:45 AM
a month ago; Rs threaten violence if Trump indicted
Wed after Trump debacle: Rs ask what's taking Garland so long
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I've actually been asking what's taking so long for months....you can check that...

Got Stripers
11-09-2022, 03:20 PM
i’m just asking, not mocking, what’s the data on how hispanics voted?

terrible night for trump-backed weak candidates. Trump serves an unbelievable purpose in 2016, now he has to go.

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2022/09/29/most-latinos-say-democrats-care-about-them-and-work-hard-for-their-vote-far-fewer-say-so-of-gop/

Data and the final results of the border states, FL is the exception it’s red and probably stays red.

Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 03:25 PM
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2022/09/29/most-latinos-say-democrats-care-about-them-and-work-hard-for-their-vote-far-fewer-say-so-of-gop/

Data and the final results of the border states, FL is the exception it’s red and probably stays red.

a sincere thanks.

And FLs latinos are cuban, not the same as those from
mexico.

Jim in CT
11-09-2022, 03:26 PM
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2022/09/29/most-latinos-say-democrats-care-about-them-and-work-hard-for-their-vote-far-fewer-say-so-of-gop/

Data and the final results of the border states, FL is the exception it’s red and probably stays red.

that’s from september. does it say anything about what latinos did last night? maybe we won’t know that for awhile.

Got Stripers
11-09-2022, 05:42 PM
Instead of a runoff, I think George should have a spelling bee and obviously Scott should host and moderate it.

Pete F.
11-09-2022, 10:04 PM
Bugs Bunny has the solution

https://youtu.be/xiTM2HQ0g98
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scottw
11-10-2022, 03:41 AM
Instead of a runoff, I think George should have a spelling bee and obviously Scott should host and moderate it.

still upset about that huh?

Got Stripers
11-10-2022, 06:05 AM
still upset about that huh?

Oh no your almost as easy as poking fun at Jim, your just a bit more irrelevant.

scottw
11-10-2022, 06:16 AM
Oh no your almost as easy as poking fun at Jim, your just a bit more irrelevant.

keep flaunting your low IQ :rolleyes:

Pete F.
11-12-2022, 11:31 PM
Who else is excited for two more years of Katie Porter and her whiteboard?
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Got Stripers
11-13-2022, 08:02 AM
It’s coming in 24 right, just like the mid term red wave?

wdmso
11-13-2022, 09:52 AM
Newsmax the usual suspects are going full fraud excuses even though
republicans won the governor’s office in Nevada

but dems some how cheated on the Senate race on the same ballot
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Jim in CT
11-13-2022, 10:24 AM
It’s coming in 24 right, just like the mid term red wave?

it was a flop by any standard and Trump is blaming everyone except himself.

Got Stripers
11-13-2022, 12:50 PM
can anyone find a poll that is favorable for the democrats?.....I'll wait

Now Scott didn’t many here tell you to forget the polls, even as you searched hard to post every negative one you could find leading up to the election. Oh yeah and Biden’s recession and inflation doomed us is this mid term and Biden’s messaging was going to be our downfall. Well I guess you just have to stop drinking that coolaid and stop relying on the wrong polls. Will only get better when Trump announces he is running, get that clown car tuned up, it’s time to make American great again.

Nebe
11-13-2022, 07:06 PM
:hidin:

The Dad Fisherman
11-13-2022, 07:39 PM
:hihi:
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scottw
11-14-2022, 02:54 AM
Now Scott didn’t many here tell you to forget the polls, even as you searched hard to post every negative one you could find leading up to the election. Oh yeah and Biden’s recession and inflation doomed us is this mid term and Biden’s messaging was going to be our downfall. Well I guess you just have to stop drinking that coolaid and stop relying on the wrong polls. Will only get better when Trump announces he is running, get that clown car tuned up, it’s time to make American great again.

I was asking perpetually polling pete why he stopped perpetually updating us with polls as he did when he thought they were in his favor if you were paying attention......it was not inaccurate to say that it was difficult to find any polling data in favor of democrats in recent weeks, ....Trump has marginalized himself, Mitch is in trouble....I am happy with that...the brandon clown show will continue... and do you think his condition improves or gets worse over the next two years? If trump does announce it will be a side show for leftists to direct their hate and energy for two years which should be very amusing.....maybe he wants to announce that he located the high level nuclear secrets that everyone here said he'd stolen and sold :hihi:

Got Stripers
11-14-2022, 06:54 AM
I was asking perpetually polling pete why he stopped perpetually updating us with polls as he did when he thought they were in his favor if you were paying attention......it was not inaccurate to say that it was difficult to find any polling data in favor of democrats in recent weeks, ....Trump has marginalized himself, Mitch is in trouble....I am happy with that...the brandon clown show will continue... and do you think his condition improves or gets worse over the next two years? If trump does announce it will be a side show for leftists to direct their hate and energy for two years which should be very amusing.....maybe he wants to announce that he located the high level nuclear secrets that everyone here said he'd stolen and sold :hihi:

Is that the Biden show passing legislations that help all Americans, the administration improving our global relationships, strengthening nato, doing a great job handling Ukraine and leading his party to a historic mid term result? He struggles historically with speech, which you confuse with dementia, but continues to govern with purpose and I hope you enjoy the show.

scottw
11-14-2022, 07:05 AM
He struggles historically with speech, which you confuse with dementia,

.

see...even you can say something funny occasionally :kewl:

Jim in CT
11-14-2022, 07:40 AM
Is that the Biden show passing legislations that help all Americans, the administration improving our global relationships, strengthening nato, doing a great job handling Ukraine and leading his party to a historic mid term result? He struggles historically with speech, which you confuse with dementia, but continues to govern with purpose and I hope you enjoy the show.

you auditioning for a spot on The View?

you honestly don’t think Biden shows clear signs of senility?

please please can the left finally convict trump of something? We need him out of the way.

scottw
11-14-2022, 07:47 AM
you honestly don’t think Biden shows clear signs of senility?



I bet it's harder to recognize when....oh never mind....:read:

Jim in CT
11-14-2022, 07:52 AM
I bet it's harder to recognize when....oh never mind....:read:

an interesting stat, nationwide the gop got 6 million more votes for the House than democrats. it’s a case where the electoral
math really helped the democrats, while recently it has usually helped the gop. you win some, you lose some.

the senate was going to be tough, twice as many republicans were up this time. in 2024 way more democrats are up in the senate. We just need you know who to get out of Desantis’ way. even if it means sending him to prison.

wdmso
11-14-2022, 09:47 AM
an interesting stat, nationwide the gop got 6 million more votes for the House than democrats.

And how’d that work out for Republicans..
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Jim in CT
11-14-2022, 09:56 AM
an interesting stat, nationwide the gop got 6 million more votes for the House than democrats.

And how’d that work out for Republicans..
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wdmso, i stated very clearly what the point was. I’m sorry if you missed it, you’re the only person on the planet who missed it.

it was the GOPs turn to win more votes but lose elections. i’m not complaining. that’s the reality.

when your side wins a popular vote but loses an election, you cry about the unfairness of the electoral college. I’m not doing that at all, i’m saying we were due

Do you do this on purpose? i can’t believe anyone is wrong as often as you are, that anyone misses what was explicitly stated as often as you.

i can’t believe we don’t know who won the House yet.

wdmso
11-14-2022, 10:24 AM
wdmso, i stated very clearly what the point was. I’m sorry if you missed it, you’re the only person on the planet who missed it.

it was the GOPs turn to win more votes but lose elections. i’m not complaining. that’s the reality.

when your side wins a popular vote but loses an election, you cry about the unfairness of the electoral college. I’m not doing that at all, i’m saying we were due

Do you do this on purpose? i can’t believe anyone is wrong as often as you are, that anyone misses what was explicitly stated as often as you.

i can’t believe we don’t know who won the House yet.

Jim your trying to cast sunshine on the popular vote. When it just the opposite

You twisted a midterms popular vote count to some how but not surprised
As the same as a presidential election and the electoral college

This is what happens with extreme republicans gerrymandering districts.. all your votes are in one basket . It is no evidence of how popular republicans are.,

But feel free to think that’s what it is.
Even Newt can sees it


We had five or 6 million more votes and we don't pick up a whole bunch of seats



Gingrich said the 6 million reported popular vote margin – which he said is likely to shrink somewhat as California returns continue to come in – should be a key facet of that investigation.

"We had five or 6 million more votes and we don't pick up a whole bunch of seats. We need to analyze that. I mean, there's something going on out there that we don't understand," he said.


Several post back I said a wins a win but a gop controlled house is going to be an example disfunction
On an epic level.
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Jim in CT
11-14-2022, 11:12 AM
Jim your trying to cast sunshine on the popular vote. When it just the opposite

You twisted a midterms popular vote count to some how but not surprised
As the same as a presidential election and the electoral college

This is what happens with extreme republicans gerrymandering districts.. all your votes are in one basket . It is no evidence of how popular republicans are.,

But feel free to think that’s what it is.
Even Newt can sees it


We had five or 6 million more votes and we don't pick up a whole bunch of seats



Gingrich said the 6 million reported popular vote margin – which he said is likely to shrink somewhat as California returns continue to come in – should be a key facet of that investigation.

"We had five or 6 million more votes and we don't pick up a whole bunch of seats. We need to analyze that. I mean, there's something going on out there that we don't understand," he said.


Several post back I said a wins a win but a gop controlled house is going to be an example disfunction
On an epic level.
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You're hearing those voices.

I said its the GOPs turn to be on the receiving end of the occasional harshness of electoral math reality.

Let me see if I can use words so simple, even you can get it...I am not saying it's a cause for celebration that the GOP got more votes. I'm saying that now we know how the democrats feel when this happens to them.

I'm sorry, if you can't grasp that, I can't help you . It's not complicated. You're responding to something I didn't say.

"a gop controlled house is going to be an example disfunction
On an epic level."

We will see. There will be investigations you won't like, as there were investigations I didn't like.

Whats good for the goose...

PaulS
11-14-2022, 11:30 AM
The vote showed that Americans want civility and moderates.
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Got Stripers
11-14-2022, 11:50 AM
You're hearing those voices.

I said its the GOPs turn to be on the receiving end of the occasional harshness of electoral math reality.

Let me see if I can use words so simple, even you can get it...I am not saying it's a cause for celebration that the GOP got more votes. I'm saying that now we know how the democrats feel when this happens to them.

I'm sorry, if you can't grasp that, I can't help you . It's not complicated. You're responding to something I didn't say.

"a gop controlled house is going to be an example disfunction
On an epic level."

We will see. There will be investigations you won't like, as there were investigations I didn't like.

Whats good for the goose...


Yup revenge and no governing, we already know the NEW GOP playbook

wdmso
11-14-2022, 12:03 PM
You're hearing those voices.


I said its the GOPs turn to be on the receiving end of the occasional harshness of electoral math reality.

Let me see if I can use words so simple, even you can get it...I am not saying it's a cause for celebration that the GOP got more votes. I'm saying that now we know how the democrats feel when this happens to them.

I'm sorry, if you can't grasp that, I can't help you . It's not complicated. You're responding to something I didn't say.

"a gop controlled house is going to be an example disfunction
On an epic level."

We will see. There will be investigations you won't like, as there were investigations I didn't like.

Whats good for the goose...


Seems the only on hearing voices are you

No Jim I am paying attention your just parroting GOP spin on the midterms it’s all over right wing news stations Fox’s lead

Gingrich calls for postmortem review of midterms, lauds GOP for reportedly winning popular vote

Which definition of lauds do you think fox is pushing Praise or prayers

The difference is Jim gop investigation are based on fantasy and revenge.

Democrats investigation are the rule of law and a coup attempt by a sitting president and his supporters ..
That you and others insist it was just a. Few bad apples

Funny what investigations you don’t like

No suddenly we have a new gop line

Ron Johnson Claims President Biden 'Almost Certainly Is Compromised' By Hunter's Dealings With China

But let’s wash over the Saudis government part of 9/11 (says the GOP) and their 2 billion to Jared but call it an investment but hunter money was influence peddling

Republicans are pathological in their lies


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Jim in CT
11-14-2022, 12:24 PM
Seems the only on hearing voices are you

No Jim I am paying attention your just parroting GOP spin on the midterms it’s all over right wing news stations Fox’s lead

Gingrich calls for postmortem review of midterms, lauds GOP for reportedly winning popular vote

Which definition of lauds do you think fox is pushing Praise or prayers

The difference is Jim gop investigation are based on fantasy and revenge.

Democrats investigation are the rule of law and a coup attempt by a sitting president and his supporters ..
That you and others insist it was just a. Few bad apples

No suddenly we have a new gop line

Ron Johnson Claims President Biden 'Almost Certainly Is Compromised' By Hunter's Dealings With China

But let’s wash over the Saudis government part of 9/11 (says the GOP) and their 2 billion to Jared but call it an investment but hunter money was influence peddling

Republicans are pathological in their lies


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"The difference is Jim gop investigation are based on fantasy and revenge."

The Bidens couldn't have possibly done anything wrong, because he's a democrat. Right?

How do you know they didn't do anything unethical?

"But let’s wash over the Saudis government part of 9/11 (says the GOP) and their 2 billion to Jared"

Whatabout-ism! Sorry I must call you out on whatabout-ism, which sometimes you are opposed to, and clearly sometimes you think is totally valid!

I'm all for investigating Donald and Jared. Do it.

"Republicans are pathological in their lies "

You say so. Not as pathological as your flip flopping.

Conservative-bad. liberal=good.

Keep bleating that Wayne, like a good sheep.

Jim in CT
11-14-2022, 12:30 PM
Yup revenge and no governing, we already know the NEW GOP playbook

If you are a pitcher on a baseball team, and the other pitcher is beaning your hitters, would you eventually throw at someone on their team, to send a message?

The democrats, the media, Biden's DOJ, nd big tech got together to bury discussion on POSSIBLE Biden wrongdoing before the 2020 election. This isn't debatable. Had those people done their jobs, we wouldn't be in this situation. But we are. Elections have consequences.

This is assuming the GOP takes the house. I have no clue how likely that is, as many of the un-called house elections are in California.

Why do you say "no governing"? From 2019-2020 when the democrat controlled house was holding hearings, did they not do any governing? Why can't the house investigate and govern at the same time? Or can only democrats pull that off?

How about making up another conspiracy that I cling to?

wdmso
11-14-2022, 03:42 PM
"The difference is Jim gop investigation are based on fantasy and revenge."

The Bidens couldn't have possibly done anything wrong, because he's a democrat. Right?

How do you know they didn't do anything unethical?

"But let’s wash over the Saudis government part of 9/11 (says the GOP) and their 2 billion to Jared"

Whatabout-ism! Sorry I must call you out on whatabout-ism, which sometimes you are opposed to, and clearly sometimes you think is totally valid!

I'm all for investigating Donald and Jared. Do it.

"Republicans are pathological in their lies "

You say so. Not as pathological as your flip flopping.

Conservative-bad. liberal=good.

Keep bleating that Wayne, like a good sheep.

Jim your version of how to justify an investigation is and I quote

If the Biden's didn’t do anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about. You should just add don’t you think Comrade !

We’re not investigating Hunter Biden for political reasons,” Comer says. “We’re investigating Hunter Biden because we believe he’s a national security threat, who we fear has compromised Joe Biden.”

Comer also wants to hold hearings focused on the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic

If we don’t engage in impeachment inquiries to get the documents and the testimony and the information that we need, then I believe that our voters will feel betrayed,” Rep. Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida

H.Res.57 - Impeaching Joseph R. Biden, President of the United States, for abuse of power by enabling bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Sponsor: Rep. Greene, Marjorie Taylor [R-GA-14] (Introduced 01/21/2021)

It’s a here to read Jim. Keep convincing yourself Republicans have integrity and ethical behaviors
History paints a different picture


And comparing the GOP version of Jared 2 billion as an investment and hunters 1million as influence peddling is not whataboutism but clear and dishonest word choices by republicans .
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wdmso
11-14-2022, 05:18 PM
GOP Sen. Josh Hawley: Grand 'Old Party Is Dead; Time to Bury It'

The Grand old party isn’t the issue

It’s those who left the grand old party values Behind and embraced Trump-and the Maga rhetoric as the new direction for the Republican Party

Are Unable to accept the Truth they destroyed the Grand old party!

No one else
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Pete F.
11-14-2022, 05:43 PM
How the Dems lost the popular vote is pretty mundane: the number of races contested by only one of the major parties. This cycle, there are about twice as many races without a Democratic candidate as without a Republican one. Democrats won’t have candidates in about two dozen races, compared with about a dozen for Republicans. No one in South Dakota or North Dakota wanted to run for the House as a Democrat, apparently.
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The Dad Fisherman
11-14-2022, 06:32 PM
There’s no such thing as a “Popular Vote”
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Pete F.
11-14-2022, 10:33 PM
There’s no such thing as a “Popular Vote”
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Popular Vote
The term “popular vote” has two different meanings. The first simply refers to a democratic vote which has been put to an entire electorate, which could be in the form of an election or referendum. For example, the subject of European Union membership has always been polarizing in the United Kingdom. In 2016 a decision on the matter was put to a “popular vote” in the form of a referendum resulting in "Brexit".

The second meaning of the term refers to the decision made by voters reflected in the share of votes won by a particular candidate, party or option in a referendum. Using the Brexit referendum example, the option to leave won 52% of the popular vote. In a simple binary referendum such as Brexit, this popular vote majority directly translated into the success for the leave option.

However, in more complex votes such as the US Presidential election, winning a greater share of the popular vote doesn’t always translate into electoral victory. In 2016, for example, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton won 48.5% of the popular vote across the US to Republican Donald Trump’s 46.4%, however the latter ended up winning the presidency. This is because the US electoral college system uses a “winner-takes-all” majoritarian electoral system, which means the number of electors won doesn’t necessarily correspond to a candidate’s share of the popular vote. Put another way, the share of the popular vote refers to the number of votes won across the country, but depending on the electoral system in place, this may or may not correspond to the number of seats won.
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scottw
11-14-2022, 11:11 PM
The vote showed that Americans want civility and moderates.

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this according to mr. profanity and bad temper.......:jester:

scottw
11-15-2022, 05:23 AM
Yup revenge and no governing



sounds like the democraps through the trump years....

scottw
11-15-2022, 05:24 AM
Jim your version of how to justify an investigation is and I quote

If the " " didn’t do anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about.


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didn't you say exactly this when referring to a tv show? :rollem:

scottw
11-15-2022, 05:26 AM
And how’d that work out for Republicans..

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looks like they got a House out of it....which was really all that was expected....better luck next time...

Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 06:26 AM
looks like they got a House out of it....which was really all that was expected....better luck next time...

it was all i expected as there were so many more gop
senate seats up. the senate was always a steep
uphill climb, but a lot of pollsters got many of those races very wrong.

in 2024 the democrats have 24 senators up for re election, the gop 10. That’s ripe for a meaningful shift, but Trump could easily dash those hopes.

Assuming trump runs, does desantis challenge him in the primary? Or does he concede and wait until 2028? fascinating stuff, but none of it helpful to the gop.

there’s 85 i vestiges ruins into trump. Can’t one of them
lead to a conviction of something? Just one?

scottw
11-15-2022, 06:34 AM
Can’t one of them
lead to a conviction of something? Just one?



pete says just be patient...he should be in handcuffs any day now....

Got Stripers
11-15-2022, 07:07 AM
Trump will announce today he is running for president, the question in the back of his mind is how much can I make in this next money grab. I think a Trump/Lake ticket will be fun for Americans.

scottw
11-15-2022, 07:58 AM
I think a Trump/Lake ticket will be fun for Americans.



ABSOULUTELY!

just imagine the debates between brandon/ trump ....Lake/kamala or fedderwoman....or brandon/Trump.....Desantis/kamala or fedderwoman...or Desantis/brandon....Lake/kamala or fedderwoman

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 07:59 AM
They don’t get it yet. They may never get it. Trump won’t ALLOW Republicans to move on from him.
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Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 08:20 AM
They don’t get it yet. They may never get it. Trump won’t ALLOW Republicans to move on from him.
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Who doesn't get that, Pete?

I agree with you, and I've been saying that.

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 08:25 AM
Who doesn't get that, Pete?

I agree with you, and I've been saying that.

RINO much?

Republicans should be forced to carry Donald Trump to term, even if it endangers the life of the party.
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Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 08:50 AM
RINO much?

Republicans should be forced to carry Donald Trump to term, even if it endangers the life of the party.
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republicans don’t the right to choose someone else? why should they be forced to stick with trump?

“endangers the life of the party.”

prevents the party from achieving what it would otherwise achieve. doesn’t endanger the existence of the party.

look where the democrats were after 8 years of obama. way way worse off than the gop is now. but trump is a lot more toxic now than 2 years ago.

i’m not a rino. i like Trunks policies, i hate him personally.

Got Stripers
11-15-2022, 09:02 AM
republicans don’t the right to choose someone else? why should they be forced to stick with trump?

“endangers the life of the party.”

prevents the party from achieving what it would otherwise achieve. doesn’t endanger the existence of the party.

look where the democrats were after 8 years of obama. way way worse off than the gop is now. but trump is a lot more toxic now than 2 years ago.

i’m not a rino. i like Trunks policies, i hate him personally.

OMG Scott, this is a spelling opportunity for you, why aren't you doing your primary job on this forum?

Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 09:03 AM
OMG Scott, this is a spelling opportunity for you, why aren't you doing your primary job on this forum?

i’m the worlds worst typist…

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 09:21 AM
republicans don’t the right to choose someone else? why should they be forced to stick with trump?

“endangers the life of the party.”

prevents the party from achieving what it would otherwise achieve. doesn’t endanger the existence of the party.

look where the democrats were after 8 years of obama. way way worse off than the gop is now. but trump is a lot more toxic now than 2 years ago.

i’m not a rino. i like Trunks policies, i hate him personally.



Why on earth, would you point out that Liz Cheney was in private practice from 1981-1989, as evidence she's not a RINO? How could that POSSIBLY mean she's not a RINO?

There was a civil war within the GOP. It's over. Liz Cheney's side lost. And I don't intensely dislike Liz Cheney or anything, but she's no longer the preferred brand of Republican.

The civil war among democrats is just beginning, and lord almighty is it entertaining.

Poor RINO victim, hopefully you were entertained by the civil war among the Dems...............

Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 10:11 AM
Poor RINO victim, hopefully you were entertained by the civil war among the Dems...............

I was very entertained by the civil war among the dems (and it ain't over, once Trump is gone the dems will have to face the fact that America isn't liberal, not even close). I will be a lot less entertained by the upcoming civil war within the GOP that almost certainly starts tonight. It's going to be ugly, and it's going to be costly, though not nearly as costly as you want it to be. It won't mean the demise of the GOP, it probably means the GOP will achieve less for the next few years than they'd otherwise achieve.

I wish the dems would help out and convict the guy of something, anything.

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 12:24 PM
Poor victim
You’re just another Republican failure, like McConnell, McCarthy and McDaniel.

Trump will test the Republican Party and we’ll see just how much lower they will go, because everything Trump touches dies….
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Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 01:47 PM
everything Trump touches dies….
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Then please tell me why the GOP will likely have a tiny majority in the house, 49/50 senate seats, and a robust majority of state governorships and legislatures? By what conceivable standard is that a dead party? I guess it's a very slow death...How would you describe the democrats after Obama? They were way, way worse off than the GOP is now.

Or are you making up quotes again, passing them off as genuine?

It's fascinating though. The battle on the left is ideological between the more progressive wing and the more moderate wing, and the moderate wing at the national level is quickly disappearing. That battle is pretty much over, the holdouts like Manchin and Sinema are mostly despised.

On the right, the ideological battle is over, the neocons lost and the populists won. The upcoming war on the right will be fought among two groups who have the same views on public policy, the battle will be about Trump, as he's way too self-centered to make it about anything other than himself. He's an unbelievable megalomaniac. It's going to be ugly and it's going to be costly, and it will be fascinating to see what Desantis does. If he waits until his term is up in 2026 and runs in 2028, that's 2 years he'll be out of office and he may well be yesterday's news by then. His time is right now after turning Florida into a red state and winning Miami Dade. But the Trump lovers are absolutely in a cult, there's no talking to them. they are completely hypnotized. Desantis is the embodiment of the upside of Trump without the downside, which is exactly why the left is batsh-t terrified of him. And he may never have a chance.

Fascinating stuff. Better than an episode of The West Wing.

Got Stripers
11-15-2022, 06:19 PM
Not one incumbent democratic senator lost, last time that happened in the mid terms was 1934, man that red wave was quite the ripple. Trump will continue to be the anchor dragging the GOP down, be careful what you wish for or vote for. Between Trump and abortion, the dog who caught the buss is looking rabid now.

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 06:45 PM
The Republican Party had a choice between Trump or America, they chose Trump over and over again.
Trump was impeached twice… each impeachment was completely justified… the second was for 1/6… in each case the elected GOP dishonored their oaths… if they’d honored their oaths… Trump would’ve been removed… he should have been removed…
Republicans now know that they cannot win with Trump; but they also know that if he torches everything in sight, they can’t win without him either. They are in a political prison of their own making.

Wanna blame Trump for Herschel Walker? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed him too. Wanna blame Trump for Kari Lake? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed her too. Wanna blame Trump…

You get it. It’s not just Trump. They ALL endorsed ALL the crazies.

You want the "Trumpism" without Trump. The Rep were rotten to to core before... Trump just let it all out in the open.

And they like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty.
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Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 07:00 PM
The Republican Party had a choice between Trump or America, they chose Trump over and over again.
Trump was impeached twice… each impeachment was completely justified… the second was for 1/6… in each case the elected GOP dishonored their oaths… if they’d honored their oaths… Trump would’ve been removed… he should have been removed…
Republicans now know that they cannot win with Trump; but they also know that if he torches everything in sight, they can’t win without him either. They are in a political prison of their own making.

Wanna blame Trump for Herschel Walker? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed him too. Wanna blame Trump for Kari Lake? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed her too. Wanna blame Trump…

You get it. It’s not just Trump. They ALL endorsed ALL the crazies.

You want the "Trumpism" without Trump. The Rep were rotten to to core before... Trump just let it all out in the open.

And they like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty.
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Yeah Desantis is a loser.

you’re pretty worked up over a dead party.

did no democrats endorse Fetterman? oh but he’s mainstream.

Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 07:03 PM
so if the gop controls the house but not the senate, is democracy dead? half dead?

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 07:37 PM
Yeah Desantis is a loser.

you’re pretty worked up over a dead party.

did no democrats endorse Fetterman? oh but he’s mainstream.

Poor RINO

Here’s the radical platform Fetterman ran on

Make more stuff in America
Cut taxes for working people
Ban Congress from trading stocks
Slash “out of pocket” health care costs
End immoral price gouging

Just more stuff you’re against apparently?

Fetterman agreeing to a debate with those stakes, knowing an entire country would watch, in this cynical age of cheap commentary and social media chatter, while he was recovering from a stroke from just months ago, is one of the most personally courageous acts we will ever witness.

Unlike DeSanctimonious who disappeared when Covid was raging in his state
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Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 07:51 PM
Poor RINO

Here’s the radical platform Fetterman ran on

Make more stuff in America
Cut taxes for working people
Ban Congress from trading stocks
Slash “out of pocket” health care costs
End immoral price gouging

Just more stuff you’re against apparently?

Fetterman agreeing to a debate with those stakes, knowing an entire country would watch, in this cynical age of cheap commentary and social media chatter, while he was recovering from a stroke from just months ago, is one of the most personally courageous acts we will ever witness.

Unlike DeSanctimonious who disappeared when Covid was raging in his state
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you left out letting murderers go free, abandoning the fillibuster, etc..

desperately Cherry picking to distort the truth, to fit the narrative. Why do you have to lie, to defeat a dead party.

maybe i am a rino given my stance on gay marriage and the death penalty and gun control.

I’ve asked many times, can you name any meaningful policy positions on which you disagree with liberals? Can you name one.

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 08:32 PM
you left out letting murderers go free, abandoning the fillibuster, etc..

desperately Cherry picking to distort the truth, to fit the narrative. Why do you have to lie, to defeat a dead party.

maybe i am a rino given my stance on gay marriage and the death penalty and gun control.

I’ve asked many times, can you name any meaningful policy positions on which you disagree with liberals? Can you name one.

Poor RINO, those items are from Fettermans platform.

You like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty, like Dr Oz the dog killer.

Fetterman was on a board and anyone released was vetted by many others.

But apparently opposing mandatory life without parole makes a U.S. Senate candidate “pro-murderer”

Plenty of people would like to see the filibuster go, the procedure is not part of the US Constitution, becoming theoretically possible with a change of Senate rules only in 1806 and not used until 1837.
There have been more than 2,000 filibusters since 1917; about half have been in just the last 12 or so years since they’ve become effortless.
Just another reason Congress can’t function, but you think that’s good.

As far as your usual query, I’m still waiting to see your badge, Officer Fife….
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Pete F.
11-15-2022, 08:36 PM
you’re pretty worked up over a dead party.

Josh Hawley just now: “This election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it. The Republican Party is, as we have known it, is dead. Voters have made that clear—we are not a majority party.”
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Jim in CT
11-15-2022, 09:01 PM
Poor RINO, those items are from Fettermans platform.

You like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty, like Dr Oz the dog killer.

Fetterman was on a board and anyone released was vetted by many others.

But apparently opposing mandatory life without parole makes a U.S. Senate candidate “pro-murderer”

Plenty of people would like to see the filibuster go, the procedure is not part of the US Constitution, becoming theoretically possible with a change of Senate rules only in 1806 and not used until 1837.
There have been more than 2,000 filibusters since 1917; about half have been in just the last 12 or so years since they’ve become effortless.
Just another reason Congress can’t function, but you think that’s good.

As far as your usual query, I’m still waiting to see your badge, Officer Fife….
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how come dems love the filibuster when they’re in the minority?

how can i be a maga trumplican and a RINO at the same time?

Pete F.
11-15-2022, 11:26 PM
how come dems love the filibuster when they’re in the minority?

how can i be a maga trumplican and a RINO at the same time?

You’re a little schizophrenic?

Hearing GOPChairwoman is a total lock for re-election as chair....even after 3 disastrous cycles.

Know why? Total, unwavering, absolute loyalty to Trump.

Still think he doesn't control the party, top to bottom?

Well, possibly with the exception of you….but you’d still vote for him🤡
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scottw
11-16-2022, 05:25 AM
OMG Scott, this is a spelling opportunity for you, why aren't you doing your primary job on this forum?

in the instance you are referring to Jim was not posturing in moral and intellectual superiority and/or commenting on how stupid others are while simultaneously babbling incoherently and spelling like a low performing 4th grader....so it's not really as funny or worthy of note....I thought you'd be smart enough to figure that out...apparently not

scottw
11-16-2022, 05:35 AM
how come dems love the filibuster when they’re in the minority?



they allow themselves many things, they enjoy a sort of religious fanaticism and feelings of superiority based in the narratives they are perpetually fed and digest and regurgitate....

for instance....they think student loan forgivenesses put them on a pillar of moral superiority....the truth is it was nothing more that a very expensive carrot using federal funding to get young indebted people out to vote to protect the forgiveness they were told they were now entitled to....

it was clear that this would not survive the courts but team brandon did not care...

they will tell you this is brilliant political maneuvering as they look down on you from their high horse....

it is in fact, evil



"Briahna Joy Gray, who previously served as a press secretary for Senator Bernie Sanders’s 2020 presidential campaign, on Friday claimed President Biden baited young voters with a “faulty” student-loan forgiveness order.

“They used the promise of student debt cancellation to induce young voter turn out — knowing it wasn’t going anywhere bc they relied on faulty legal authority,” she wrote in a tweet. “Hard to convince me the Biden admin didn’t do this intentionally.”

scottw
11-16-2022, 06:22 AM
so if the gop controls the house but not the senate, is democracy dead? half dead?

depends....we now know that basically everything will die if democraps are not in charge....the planet, the environment, rights, entitlements, the future, the past, your soul, your dog

but....

Schumer is out there warning republicans that they should do certain things or risk the future of their party because he is apparently very invested in the future success of the republican party?...

these people are insane:rotflmao:

Got Stripers
11-16-2022, 06:43 AM
Must be hard to breath with you head stuck where it is. You think the youth vote turned blue on a bribe of loan forgiveness, really narrow view of the issues they really turned out to vote on. If the left is so gullible and dumb, what does that say about the GOP party and their mid term campaign and results.

scottw
11-16-2022, 07:18 AM
You think the youth vote turned blue on a bribe of loan forgiveness, really narrow view of the issues they really turned out to vote on.



Bernie Sanders former campaign press secretary thinks so.....

wdmso
11-16-2022, 08:44 AM
didn't you say exactly this when referring to a tv show? :rollem:

So Jim never said it?

Seems your being a whiny little you know the rest . More than usual in all your response’s ?

You should be happy your man crush announced his 2024 run America is saved
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Pete F.
11-16-2022, 09:02 AM
Front page of NY Post “Florida man makes announcement” story on p, 26: With just 720 days to go before the next election a Florida retiree made the surprise announcement he was running for President…he has stated his qualifications include being a very stable genius.
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wdmso
11-16-2022, 09:17 AM
it was all i expected as there were so many more gop
senate seats up. the senate was always a steep
uphill climb, but a lot of pollsters got many of those races very wrong.

in 2024 the democrats have 24 senators up for re election, the gop 10. That’s ripe for a meaningful shift, but Trump could easily dash those hopes.

Assuming trump runs, does desantis challenge him in the primary? Or does he concede and wait until 2028? fascinating stuff, but none of it helpful to the gop.

there’s 85 i vestiges ruins into trump. Can’t one of them
lead to a conviction of something? Just one?

it was all i expected

Sorry Jim you were pushing the Red wave like no other here .on how democrats were going to be Crushed

You conceded it was a failure

I on the other looked at historical and it usually Flips and really normal

But this midterms are historical for different reason..

Yes the Republicans will have a slim majority.

But all the red wave riders are trying to spin the taking of the house . By a hair

Like Trump who said I always said we only needed to win by a few seats. took credit because someone he endorsed won. And something about the Chinese some how involved in the midterms elections

Even Kevin is dumbing it down as a win. . Which is correct
A wins a win But !!!

The republicans won’t attempt to governor. their base only wants to own the libs

Rick Scott said as much on fox. While attacking Mitch on Fox complaining about the previous bipartisan bills passed as folding to radical democrats

The house is a clown car now we wait to see how many clowns pop out
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Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 09:33 AM
it was all i expected

Sorry Jim you were pushing the Red wave like no other here .on how democrats were going to be Crushed

You conceded it was a failure

I on the other looked at historical and it usually Flips and really normal

But this midterms are historical for different reason..

Yes the Republicans will have a slim majority.

But all the red wave riders are trying to spin the taking of the house . By a hair

Like Trump who said I always said we only needed to win by a few seats. took credit because someone he endorsed won. And something about the Chinese some how involved in the midterms elections

Even Kevin is dumbing it down as a win. . Which is correct
A wins a win But !!!

The republicans won’t attempt to governor. their base only wants to own the libs

Rick Scott said as much on fox. While attacking Mitch on Fox complaining about the previous bipartisan bills passed as folding to radical democrats

The house is a clown car now we wait to see how many clowns pop out
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oh you’re 100% correct that everyone who called for a tsunami looks silly and they’re scrambling to make excuses. But 99% of the polling called for a wave so you can’t blame people for not ignoring all the polling. Everybody got it wrong.

They are right a win is a win. And you are right that it should have been a bigger win. No one knows for sure why it wasn’t a bigger win. Abortion, Trump fatigue, weak candidates, lack of a strong GOP message, take your pick…. Also the senate seats that happened to be up, we’re extremely favorable for democrats. that won’t be the case in 2024 when it’s a dream rotation for the GOP. But they’ll screw it up, or Trump will, or all of them perhaps.

When the democrats took the house in 2018 it was one hearing after another. That sure didn’t bother you. Now it’s someone else’s turn. And that really bothers you. You have absolutely zero ability to just say “we did it when we were in power, now it’s their turn.”. You’ve never once said that. You can’t.

Democrats really, really don’t like it when the gop takes control and then does what the democrats had been doing. They HATE that. It’s exactly what you’re doing here.

The DOJ, the Biden administration, and big tech buried the Biden corruption story. Fine. Assuming the GOP indeed takes the house, now that story comes out.

What’s good for the goose! Or Elections have consequences. Take your pick. In 2020, America wanted a biden as POTUS. In 2022, America wanted the GOP to take the house. Obviously Biden won in a landslide and the GOP at best will have a tiny majority, but the size of the majority doesn’t matter much in a practical sense.

scottw
11-16-2022, 11:52 AM
Sorry Jim you were pushing the Red wave like no other here .on how democrats were going to be Crushed


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no he wasn't...are you drunk?

scottw
11-16-2022, 11:54 AM
Front page of NY Post “Florida man makes announcement”

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pretty awesome headline ! :scream:

wdmso
11-16-2022, 11:55 AM
The DOJ, the Biden administration, and big tech buried the Biden corruption story.

GOP indeed takes the house, now that story comes out.

Jim there’s no story .

It’s a right wing fairy tail .. this will be just another feed the base investigation by a party whos leadership and base make up their own facts and reality .

What does it say about republicans that their more interested in Hunter

Than Jan6th and Trumps attempts to overturn the election take top secret documents the list is endless

But republicans and many of their supporters are unethical no integrity dishonest people who put themselves above country and the rule of law . Why else would walker or lake get the votes the got…. Neither offered anything besides it’s rigged

Like I said a clown car

Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland about 6 km (3.5 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

And Trump claimed it was a Russian attack 50 miles into Poland . And the Chinese interfered in the mid terms. lies 5 mins into announcing his Candidacy shocked nope
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scottw
11-16-2022, 11:56 AM
So Jim never said it?

Seems your being a whiny little you know the rest . More than usual in all your response’s ?

You should be happy your man crush announced his 2024 run America is saved

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wasn't talking about Jim, I was talking about you...having a brandon moment again? :huh:

and I believe he said it because our resident loons(you included) constantly tell us that regarding every republican that is accused of something...as i pointed out, event if it is by fictional characters on a fictional tv show

scottw
11-16-2022, 12:01 PM
It’s a right wing fairy tail .. this will be just another feed the base investigation by a party whos leadership and base make up their own facts and reality .


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pure genius.....

scottw
11-16-2022, 12:05 PM
Than Jan6th and Trumps attempts to overturn the election take top secret documents the list is endless


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hey, if you and the rest of the loons are so convinced trump is guilty of treason, sedition, conspiracy, theft and selling of nuclear secrets, obstruction, money laundering, election interference, loitering and a bunch of other crimes you can neither pronounce nor spell....why are decocraps so worried about him running again....

is that hack garland going to ignore all of this overwhelming evidence and let him walk right back into the Whitehouse? :huh:

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 12:17 PM
The DOJ, the Biden administration, and big tech buried the Biden corruption story.

GOP indeed takes the house, now that story comes out.

Jim there’s no story .

It’s a right wing fairy tail .. this will be just another feed the base investigation by a party whos leadership and base make up their own facts and reality .

What does it say about republicans that their more interested in Hunter

Than Jan6th and Trumps attempts to overturn the election take top secret documents the list is endless

But republicans and many of their supporters are unethical no integrity dishonest people who put themselves above country and the rule of law . Why else would walker or lake get the votes the got…. Neither offered anything besides it’s rigged

Like I said a clown car

Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland about 6 km (3.5 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

And Trump claimed it was a Russian attack 50 miles into Poland . And the Chinese interfered in the mid terms. lies 5 mins into announcing his Candidacy shocked nope
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Except its not a fairy tale, I don't tell fairy tales. Zuckerberg admitted the DOJ came to Facebook and warned them about the dangers of posting russian disinformation.

Are you saying that Big Tech and the lefty media didn't bury that story? They didn't say it was Russian disinformation? That's a fairy tale?

We know the Trump / Russia investigation was a fairy tale, it was looked into and it was a nothingburger. Maybe the Biden corruption story will be a similar nothingburger. But it's time to find out.

How do you know it's a fairy tale? You did a thorough investigation? Or are you taking Rachael Maddows words for it?

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 12:18 PM
no he wasn't...are you drunk?

I said right up until the election there was a chance they wouldn't take the senate, but I thought they'd take more house seats than they did for sure

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 01:00 PM
But republicans and many of their supporters are unethical no integrity dishonest people who put themselves above country and the rule of law . Why else would walker or lake get the votes the got….
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Hilary lost to Trump by a wider margin than Walker and Lake lost. SO using your logic, does that mean you think she is "unethical no integrity dishonest people who put themselves above country and the rule of law"?

Using your words, why else did voters reject her?

wdmso
11-16-2022, 02:49 PM
Hilary lost to Trump by a wider margin than Walker and Lake

Now your comparing walker and lake to Hillary.. why am I not surprised
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wdmso
11-16-2022, 02:53 PM
hey, if you and the rest of the loons are so convinced trump is guilty of treason, sedition, conspiracy, theft and selling of nuclear secrets, obstruction, money laundering, election interference, loitering and a bunch of other crimes you can neither pronounce nor spell....why are decocraps so worried about him running again....

is that hack garland going to ignore all of this overwhelming evidence and let him walk right back into the Whitehouse? :huh:

Clearly you think Trump did nothing


Not surprised.
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wdmso
11-16-2022, 02:57 PM
Except its not a fairy tale, I don't tell fairy tales. Zuckerberg admitted the DOJ came to Facebook and warned them about the dangers of posting russian disinformation.

Are you saying that Big Tech and the lefty media didn't bury that story? They didn't say it was Russian disinformation? That's a fairy tale?

We know the Trump / Russia investigation was a fairy tale, it was looked into and it was a nothingburger. Maybe the Biden corruption story will be a similar nothingburger. But it's time to find out.

How do you know it's a fairy tale? You did a thorough investigation? Or are you taking Rachael Maddows words for it?


Jim ignoring all of Trumps malfeasances and all you can come up with is the Russians hoax.

Criminal charges. The Special Counsel indicted 34 people—seven U.S. nationals, 26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations.

Some hoax
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Got Stripers
11-16-2022, 03:03 PM
Hey don’t burst Jim’s conspiracy theory bubble. Trump has started his latest money grab from the suckers who just can’t see the con artist standing in plan sight.

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 03:41 PM
Jim ignoring all of Trumps malfeasances and all you can come up with is the Russians hoax.

Criminal charges. The Special Counsel indicted 34 people—seven U.S. nationals, 26 Russian nationals, and one Dutch national—and three Russian organizations.

Some hoax
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so if i make one post that doesn’t bash trump, that means i’m ignoring all his malfeasance. Gotcha.

You said it’s a fairytale that the media covered up the laptop. i asked if you really believed that, and i stead of answering, you went to trump.

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 03:42 PM
Hey don’t burst Jim’s conspiracy theory bubble. Trump has started his latest money grab from the suckers who just can’t see the con artist standing in plan sight.

same question to you…you deny that the media buried the laptop story before the election, you deny they called it russian disinformation?

Is mark zuckerburg lying when he says the DOJ warned him about posting that stuff? t

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 03:50 PM
wdmso and GS, here is Zuckerberg saying they censored the hunter biden laptop story, and that the censored it because of the FBI.

are you saying zuckerberg is lying?

But Trump!!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532.amp

Got Stripers
11-16-2022, 05:03 PM
Deep state Jim you go get them damn Dems.

Jim in CT
11-16-2022, 06:10 PM
Deep state Jim you go get them damn Dems.

you can’t just admit maybe you got one wrong, eh? you were wrong when you said nbc retracted the story i was referring to. Flat-out, demonstrably, irrefutably wrong. Instead of admitting it like a quasi adult, you come back with an insult. Very logical.

then only person im “getting”, is you. Getting you to embarrass yourself.

Once again, is Zuckerberg lying Bob? you have evidence he’s lying?

Pete F.
11-16-2022, 09:29 PM
Poor RINO
A prime example of how everything Trump touches dies and then Fox turns them into zombies
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scottw
11-17-2022, 05:14 AM
Clearly you think Trump did nothing


Not surprised.
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it's a special kind of insanity where you constantly tell others what you think they clearly think and then respond to what you think they clearly think which is almost always wrong....

scottw
11-17-2022, 05:25 AM
wdmso and GS, here is Zuckerberg saying they censored the hunter biden laptop story, and that the censored it because of the FBI.

are you saying zuckerberg is lying?

But Trump!!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532.amp

the dummies calling you a "conspiracy theorist" are are still clinging to every bit of garbage they were fed over the last 6 years :rotf2:

The Dad Fisherman
11-17-2022, 06:24 AM
it's a special kind of insanity where you constantly tell others what you think they clearly think and then respond to what you think they clearly think which is almost always wrong....

It's his Super Power.

Pete F.
11-17-2022, 07:38 AM
Meanwhile Special counsel John Durham vindicates FBI and DOJ's investigation into Trump's Russia connections.
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Got Stripers
11-17-2022, 08:09 AM
Wait what? I thought Jim has told us that it was a hoax.

wdmso
11-17-2022, 09:06 AM
no he wasn't...are you drunk?

Maybe you need to read more post then trying to correct spelling errors.
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scottw
11-17-2022, 09:11 AM
Maybe you need to read more post then trying to correct spelling errors.
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he continually tempered expectations and expressed doubts about the polls and the possibility of GOP success.....you really struggle with reading... and spelling...

wdmso
11-17-2022, 09:14 AM
it's a special kind of insanity where you constantly tell others what you think they clearly think and then respond to what you think they clearly think which is almost always wrong....

This is funny coming from the man who says nothing. Then gets butt hurt when I fill in the blanks . While still not telling us what he’s thinks
With responses that are position -neutral. ?
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wdmso
11-17-2022, 09:19 AM
wdmso and GS, here is Zuckerberg saying they censored the hunter biden laptop story, and that the censored it because of the FBI.

are you saying zuckerberg is lying?

But Trump!!!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62688532.amp

Facebook and Twitter restricted sharing of the article, before reversing course amid allegations of censorship.

Jim everyone knew and heard the stories. Many and most still choose to call is BS . Because Rudy is such a scumbag and others
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scottw
11-17-2022, 09:36 AM
This is funny coming from the man who says nothing.

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never...obviously, which explains all of your responses :rotf2:

scottw
11-17-2022, 09:40 AM
when I fill in the blanks .

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I appreciate that you feel the need to tell me what you think I think...otherwise, how would I ever know what I think?

wdmso
11-18-2022, 07:57 AM
I appreciate that you feel the need to tell me what you think I think...otherwise, how would I ever know what I think?

Nobody knows what you think .
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wdmso
11-18-2022, 07:59 AM
One day after retaking a majority in the US House of Representatives, Republicans have said they will investigate the president's family as a "top priority".

Yep so much for gas prices inflation crime and the border

I guess they didn’t pay attention to midterm voters.

Just more rabid base politics
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Pete F.
11-18-2022, 08:53 AM
The11 Republicans who held the presser are more worried about payments Hunter Biden got 6 years ago than they are that the former President and now leading GOP POTUS candidate has entered into $3.6B+ of business deals with Saudi Arabia.

It’s pretty obvious that Republicans aren't even in power yet and they've already admitted to what we've been saying this entire time: they have NO PLAN to govern. They can't even fake it.
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Jim in CT
11-18-2022, 08:59 AM
One day after retaking a majority in the US House of Representatives, Republicans have said they will investigate the president's family as a "top priority".

Yep so much for gas prices inflation crime and the border

I guess they didn’t pay attention to midterm voters.

Just more rabid base politics
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Wayne, what can the republican house propose on those important issues, that the senate and Biden would sign?

You said yourself the Hunter investigation will be "a" top priority, not "the only" top priority. When the democrats took the house in 2018, they spent a lot of time investigating Trump. Was that a waste? If not, then as always, I'm sorry but what's good for the goose...

The republicans said very clearly in the 2022 campaign that if they took the house, they'd investigate Hunter. Well, the American people feely chose to give house control to the GOP, so the American people, in this instance, will get what they asked for. That's democracy. Just like it was democracy in action when Obama signed Obamacare. I hated it, but it was a perfect example of how democracy works.

Liberals think the definition of democracy, is "I always get my way".

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. If the GOP house does nothing whatsoever to try and address the issues they ran on, they deserve to be thrown out in 2 years. But they owe it to republican voters to investigate the Bidens as thoroughly as the democrats investigated Trump during the Russia hoax (I think much of the January 6th investigation was legit, and I think the Russia collusion investigation was a political witch hunt), and if there's anything there at all, they should impeach Biden.

What's god for the goose...

Pete F.
11-18-2022, 12:27 PM
Meanwhile the guy doing work is getting results.
New stats indicate the cost to ship 40-foot container from Shanghai to Los Angeles has fallen by 83% because of President Biden’s Ocean Shipping Reform Act.
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scottw
11-18-2022, 12:29 PM
Meanwhile the guy doing work is getting results.
New stats indicate the cost to ship 40-foot container from Shanghai to Los Angeles has fallen by 83% because of President Biden’s Ocean Shipping Reform Act.
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oh good we can get cheap junk from china even cheaper :biglaugh:

Pete F.
11-18-2022, 12:33 PM
oh good we can get cheap junk from china even cheaper :biglaugh:

Just what American made phone do you have in your hand?
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Pete F.
11-18-2022, 12:45 PM
Wayne, what can the republican house propose on those important issues, that the senate and Biden would sign?

You said yourself the Hunter investigation will be "a" top priority, not "the only" top priority. When the democrats took the house in 2018, they spent a lot of time investigating Trump. Was that a waste? If not, then as always, I'm sorry but what's good for the goose...

The republicans said very clearly in the 2022 campaign that if they took the house, they'd investigate Hunter. Well, the American people feely chose to give house control to the GOP, so the American people, in this instance, will get what they asked for. That's democracy. Just like it was democracy in action when Obama signed Obamacare. I hated it, but it was a perfect example of how democracy works.

Liberals think the definition of democracy, is "I always get my way".

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. If the GOP house does nothing whatsoever to try and address the issues they ran on, they deserve to be thrown out in 2 years. But they owe it to republican voters to investigate the Bidens as thoroughly as the democrats investigated Trump during the Russia hoax (I think much of the January 6th investigation was legit, and I think the Russia collusion investigation was a political witch hunt), and if there's anything there at all, they should impeach Biden.

What's god for the goose...

The 1st thing Democrats did after the midterms was to protect marriage equality for Americans

The 1st thing Republicans did after the midterms was to investigate Hunter Biden and Speaker Pelosi for God knows what

Don’t tell me the 2 parties are the same
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wdmso
11-19-2022, 07:58 AM
With a nod to '1984,' a federal judge blocks Florida's anti-'woke' law in colleges

'It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen,' and the powers in charge of Florida's public university system have declared the State has unfettered authority to muzzle its professors in the name of 'freedom,'" the judge wrote. "This is positively dystopian."



Liberals think the definition of democracy, is "I always get my way".

Wow that’s comical. Jim blames democrats for doing what only republicans have attempted.

Steal elections , vote for election deniers on a massive scale. And of course say the elections those deniers lost were rigged ..

alternative Facts hard at work
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Jim in CT
11-19-2022, 10:53 AM
With a nod to '1984,' a federal judge blocks Florida's anti-'woke' law in colleges

'It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen,' and the powers in charge of Florida's public university system have declared the State has unfettered authority to muzzle its professors in the name of 'freedom,'" the judge wrote. "This is positively dystopian."



Liberals think the definition of democracy, is "I always get my way".

Wow that’s comical. Jim blames democrats for doing what only republicans have attempted.

Steal elections , vote for election deniers on a massive scale. And of course say the elections those deniers lost were rigged ..

alternative Facts hard at work
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you didn’t post anything when a judge struck down bidens student loan forgiveness / vote buy.

is it only bad when republicans have policies struck down?

is election denying bad? i’m confused, because the guy who’s going to replace Pelosi as democrat leader in the house, said as late as 2018 that the 2016 election was fake and illegitimate. he tweeted that from his official congress account. and he’s likely to be the top democrat in the house.

I’d love it if you’d explain why that’s ok. Why is it ok that people
voted for him?

wdmso
11-19-2022, 03:58 PM
you didn’t post anything when a judge struck down bidens student loan forgiveness / vote buy.

is it only bad when republicans have policies struck down?

is election denying bad? i’m confused, because the guy who’s going to replace Pelosi as democrat leader in the house, said as late as 2018 that the 2016 election was fake and illegitimate. he tweeted that from his official congress account. and he’s likely to be the top democrat in the house.

I’d love it if you’d explain why that’s ok. Why is it ok that people
voted for him?


Lol student loan forgiveness. Please
I leave the petty nonsense for you to weep about

Jim your so deep in the cult the elections deniers are all Republicans! Your twisted attempt s to re write history is astounding
But you keep at it….

Trump yesterday said 2020 was rigged. For the 10,000 time

And then another GOP star speaks

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) took the same stage to announce plans to force a vote on ending funds for Ukraine. “Is Ukraine now the 51st state?” asked Greene, who alleged an elaborate cryptocurrency conspiracy in which military aid for Ukraine actually funds Democrats’ campaigns.


Yep more conspiracy’s the clown cars got a full tank of hot air
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Jim in CT
11-19-2022, 04:06 PM
Lol student loan forgiveness. Please
I leave the petty nonsense for you to weep about

Jim your so deep in the cult the elections deniers are all Republicans! Your twisted attempt s to re write history is astounding
But you keep at it….

Trump yesterday said 2020 was rigged. For the 10,000 time

And then another GOP star speaks

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) took the same stage to announce plans to force a vote on ending funds for Ukraine. “Is Ukraine now the 51st state?” asked Greene, who alleged an elaborate cryptocurrency conspiracy in which military aid for Ukraine actually funds Democrats’ campaigns.


Yep more conspiracy’s the clown cars got a full tank of hot air
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you criticized desantis because one of his proposals got overturned i. court. same thing happened to Biden. Instead if explaining your double standard you lob an insult. not surprising

“the election deniers are all republicans”

the house democrat who is likely to replace Pelosi as leader, said for years that the 2016 election. was illegitimate. he’s a democrat, and an election deniers

All the 2020 election deniers are republicans. But there are those who denied 2016, Stacey Abrams denied her 2018 election, etc . but you’re ok with that, you’re on with everything that every democrat has ever done.

I have zero problem with cutting off funding to ukraine. It’s a deeply corrupt totalitarian regime. And if ukraine has enough cash to invest in failing crypto currency schemes ( which they were supposedly doing ) , they don’t need any of my money.

Jim in CT
11-19-2022, 04:16 PM
Lol student loan forgiveness. Please
I leave the petty nonsense for you to weep about

Jim your so deep in the cult the elections deniers are all Republicans! Your twisted attempt s to re write history is astounding
But you keep at it….

Trump yesterday said 2020 was rigged. For the 10,000 time

And then another GOP star speaks

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) took the same stage to announce plans to force a vote on ending funds for Ukraine. “Is Ukraine now the 51st state?” asked Greene, who alleged an elaborate cryptocurrency conspiracy in which military aid for Ukraine actually funds Democrats’ campaigns.


Yep more conspiracy’s the clown cars got a full tank of hot air
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“election deniers are all
republicans…”

house democrat Hakeem Jeffries is running unopposed
to take over for Pelosi as democrat house leader. In 2018, he said “the more we learn about 2016, the more illegitimate it becomes.”

Are you still saying all election deniers are republicans?

I just proved beyond all doubt, that democrats also deny elections. But you won’t admit it. You can’t. your a slave to your ideology.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/election-denier-hakeem-jeffries-replace-pelosi-house-dem-leader.amp

Pete F.
11-19-2022, 07:30 PM
I have zero problem with cutting off funding to ukraine. It’s a deeply corrupt totalitarian regime. And if ukraine has enough cash to invest in failing crypto currency schemes ( which they were supposedly doing ) , they don’t need any of my money.

Now you’re claiming Ukraine is corrupt and totalitarian.
You really have been mesmerized by Carlson.

Just how many Ukrainians dying would you find acceptable?
As many as the Holodomor?
That was between 3 and 5 million people.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have been forcibly relocated to Russia.
At what point would you find it acceptable to stop Putin?
Would Poland, Finland or what make it acceptable to spend your money?
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Jim in CT
11-19-2022, 09:04 PM
pete, here you go!!

Ukraine IS corrupt. Any country that can invest in something at stupid as crypto, doesn’t need my money.

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-russia-un/ukraines-crackdown-on-media-assembly-violates-rights-u-n-idUSL8N2T01YG

wdmso
11-20-2022, 09:06 AM
pete, here you go!!

Ukraine IS corrupt. Any country that can invest in something at stupid as crypto, doesn’t need my money.

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-russia-un/ukraines-crackdown-on-media-assembly-violates-rights-u-n-idUSL8N2T01YG

To bad Jim only reads the headline
His story dec dec 2021 then Russia invaded feb 2022


If you read more it’s very clear what was happening

Zelenskiy in February imposed sanctions on several opposition-supporting television and media companies here his government accuses of being financed by Moscow, saying move was necessary to counter "propaganda financed by the aggressor country". The media organisations and TV channels are prohibited from broadcasting and their assets blocked.

U.N. human rights office said on Wednesday, adding that pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine imposed similar curbs.


The same month Ukraine announced sanctions on pro-Russian lawmaker Viktor Medvedchuk here, an associate of the owner of several of the sanctioned television channels, for what officials said was suspected financing of terrorism

Russian diplomat Yaroslav Eremin said that his country shared concerns over attacks on those he said were openly criticising a new law on the state language, adding: “This trend contributes to maintaining an atmosphere of impunity and plays right into the hands of Ukrainian neo-Nazis”.

Big picture Jim. You should try looking at it. fyi a lot of countries and very smart people like your man crush Musk use some crypto and they all lost !

To bad Republicans don’t have the balls to deal with the deeply corrupt totalitarian Trumps and his Maga horde
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wdmso
11-20-2022, 09:13 AM
“election deniers are all
republicans…”

house democrat Hakeem Jeffries is running unopposed
to take over for Pelosi as democrat house leader. In 2018, he said “the more we learn about 2016, the more illegitimate it becomes.”

Are you still saying all election deniers are republicans?

I just proved beyond all doubt, that democrats also deny elections. But you won’t admit it. You can’t. your a slave to your ideology.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/election-denier-hakeem-jeffries-replace-pelosi-house-dem-leader.amp

Yep the Fox headline

Election denier Hakeem Jeffries could replace Pelosi as House Dem leader

Just like alternative facts Jim you and Republicans want to re define what an election deniers is and try walking From Trump and all his endorsed candidates …

Again get back to me when a sitting POTUS try’s to steal an American election. And while your at it! tells how you think he or his party Didn’t..
try to steal or over turn the election

Because just because they failed doesn’t Mean it’s a nothing burger
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Got Stripers
11-20-2022, 09:54 AM
Jim is a Fox Faux News marionette, he is drunk on their coolaid (go Scott keep busy).

wdmso
11-20-2022, 10:03 AM
Jim is a Fox Faux News marionette, he is drunk on their coolaid (go Scott keep busy).

Not sure if their paying attention

That this guy Jeffries been around for a long Time ..

And only now fox Trying to help deflect From Trump still insisting the 2020 election was stolen and the Chinese were involved in the 2022

As if by magic. Find personal tweets not attempts to change the election outcome . On the floor of the house or via some bs Bill

Of the possible next minority leader

And Fox isn’t even trying to appear bias
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Jim in CT
11-20-2022, 10:43 AM
Jim is a Fox Faux News marionette, he is drunk on their coolaid (go Scott keep busy).

Wayne said all
election deniers are republicans.

I posted a Reuters article with exact quotes from a democrat congressman who is running unopposed to replace Pelosi, denying the 2016 election years later

Tel me exactly how i’m the one who’s wrong. I’m all ears.

Jim in CT
11-20-2022, 10:44 AM
To bad Jim only reads the headline
His story dec dec 2021 then Russia invaded feb 2022


If you read more it’s very clear what was happening

Zelenskiy in February imposed sanctions on several opposition-supporting television and media companies here his government accuses of being financed by Moscow, saying move was necessary to counter "propaganda financed by the aggressor country". The media organisations and TV channels are prohibited from broadcasting and their assets blocked.

U.N. human rights office said on Wednesday, adding that pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine imposed similar curbs.


The same month Ukraine announced sanctions on pro-Russian lawmaker Viktor Medvedchuk here, an associate of the owner of several of the sanctioned television channels, for what officials said was suspected financing of terrorism

Russian diplomat Yaroslav Eremin said that his country shared concerns over attacks on those he said were openly criticising a new law on the state language, adding: “This trend contributes to maintaining an atmosphere of impunity and plays right into the hands of Ukrainian neo-Nazis”.

Big picture Jim. You should try looking at it. fyi a lot of countries and very smart people like your man crush Musk use some crypto and they all lost !

To bad Republicans don’t have the balls to deal with the deeply corrupt totalitarian Trumps and his Maga horde
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are you still saying all election deniers are republicans? let’s stick with that.

Pete F.
11-20-2022, 01:44 PM
are you still saying all election deniers are republicans? let’s stick with that.

Feel free
Here’s another question for you
If selling a gay couple a wedding cake means a "christian" baker participated in their marriage, does selling a gun to a murderer mean a "christian" gun store owner participated in the murder?
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wdmso
11-20-2022, 02:23 PM
Trumps at it again


United States Jewish people — don't appreciate Israel the way they should," Trump said,

Pete F.
11-20-2022, 05:17 PM
are you still saying all election deniers are republicans? let’s stick with that.

Perhaps that supposition plays well with your fellow Trumplicans but Americans rejected your theory at the polls, didn’t they?
Voters heard the whataboutism that you claim endlessly on Far right media and didn’t buy it, though you certainly did.
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Got Stripers
11-20-2022, 06:24 PM
Fox controls Jim’s narrative.

wdmso
11-21-2022, 08:56 AM
the golden billion is a conspiracy theory that posits a cabal of 1 billion global elites seeks to hoard the world's wealth and resources, leaving the rest of the planet to suffer and starve.

This will be the next conspiracy adopted by the GOP Complements of their Pal Putin
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wdmso
11-21-2022, 08:59 AM
They are doing everything they can, much of it unlawful, to protect an incompetent and corrupt President, and his drug addicted criminal son. The system is Tainted and Rigged, just like our Elections are Tainted and Rigged, and just like our Border is for sale to the highest bidder,

Guess who
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wdmso
11-24-2022, 08:48 AM
Walker is set to get a homestead tax exemption in Texas for 2022, saving him about $1,500. The exemption applies only to Texans’ primary residence. Tax records show that Walker took the tax break in 2021 and 2022, even though he registered to vote in Georgia and has been campaigning there against Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock.

Odd
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wdmso
11-26-2022, 10:43 AM
Kari Lake's Campaign Sues Arizona's Maricopa County Over Election Issues

Talk about sore losers
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