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03-05-2015, 12:05 PM
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#91
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: CT
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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
Could always move ops to RI I hear the block is off the hook
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LOL
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03-05-2015, 12:13 PM
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#92
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
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Originally Posted by Nebe
When you do a charter , do you do target multi species ? That's the sizzle IMHO. A little of everything. Ok, so a person can't take 4 bass filets home, but he can take 2 bass filets , some fluke filets a few whole sea bass and a couple blackfish. That's an experience!
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We do but as you know ground fish is done for us . Fluke are not easy to come by in our waters ( we are north of the cape ) pollack is an option but that's another 20 mile run most times . Shark is usually our combo , sometimes tuna .
Most times we at least offer a fantastic whale watching.
The boats south do have many more options. That's one of the reasons our association was pushing for two fish at 33
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03-05-2015, 12:31 PM
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#93
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
From MSBA's Facebook page
Patrick Paquette
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MSBA Govt Affairs Update: The MA Marine Fisheries Commission just voted UNANIMOUSLY to accept the Directors recommendation to set 2015 striped bass regulations: ONE FISH @ 28 inch minimum size FOR ALL RECREATIONAL ANGLERS. This includes passengers on a for hire vessel. Thank You to all who supported the effort to bring reasonable regulations to striped bass fishing in MA.
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This is our opening to get RI 2 fish recommendation overturned. Get ready for one last campaign.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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03-05-2015, 12:34 PM
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#94
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
From MSBA's Facebook page
Patrick Paquette
14 mins
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MSBA Govt Affairs Update: The MA Marine Fisheries Commission just voted UNANIMOUSLY to accept the Directors recommendation to set 2015 striped bass regulations: ONE FISH @ 28 inch minimum size FOR ALL RECREATIONAL ANGLERS. This includes passengers on a for hire vessel. Thank You to all who supported the effort to bring reasonable regulations to striped bass fishing in MA.
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Good
hope it's enough to help what is left of the stripers
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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03-05-2015, 12:36 PM
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#95
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
This is our opening to get RI 2 fish recommendation overturned. Get ready for one last campaign.
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puts Ms. Coit in a bit of a pickle, we were told that the reason they(RI) needed the #2 option going down to Alexandria was because they couldn't have boats(within the mode) fishing side by side under different regulations...well......
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03-05-2015, 01:39 PM
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#96
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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RI charters original argument was that if they could only keep 1 while neighboring states were allowed to keep 2, that would be unfair and cause people to book charters in other states.
Well, now the scenario has reversed itself...
We will now see how concerned RI is with "fairness", since if their original argument is valid, that means anglers from neighboring states will flock to RI to book charters for their 2 fish, thus making the unfair advantage (originally feared by RI) a reality for neighboring states.
Hmmmm.... one might almost think this ended up exactly as intended
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03-05-2015, 02:03 PM
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#97
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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DZ sorry but I give up ......... the fix is/was in ............GR told Coit she wanted to take care of the charter boats & captains/mates ...........word filtered down to the DEM committee ...........&& you get a 5 - 3 vote . which is 100% again the majority of people that were asked & also people that spoke at the hearings & sent e-mails .
Its all about the money & again RI will look like A/H,s
WTF do we have the Striper as out state fish . there won,t be any ><><><
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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03-05-2015, 06:48 PM
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#98
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
RI charters original argument was that if they could only keep 1 while neighboring states were allowed to keep 2, that would be unfair and cause people to book charters in other states.
Well, now the scenario has reversed itself...
We will now see how concerned RI is with "fairness", since if their original argument is valid, that means anglers from neighboring states will flock to RI to book charters for their 2 fish, thus making the unfair advantage (originally feared by RI) a reality for neighboring states.
Hmmmm.... one might almost think this ended up exactly as intended
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NY, which is the main competitor to RI charter boats is going with a 2 fish limit (for everyone).
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03-05-2015, 08:45 PM
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#99
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Isn't the second fish supposed to be 43 inch and up ?
Or am I confusing the hodgepodge of various rules and regs ?
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03-05-2015, 09:51 PM
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#100
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Email sent to Governor GR.
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03-06-2015, 04:36 AM
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#101
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12,632
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still work to do...yesterday was a good day....need to appeal to the Gov, Director Coit and I think, to the good folks who were involved in the process along the way....we were told that RI had to offer the second option (Option#2) in Alexandria because they needed to protect RI for hires against a competitive disadvantage should neighboring states opt for a mode split for charters and also to keep regulations consistent between boats state to state (within the mode) assuming that Mass and perhaps CT was going to opt for mode splits. That premise is now gone, the ONLY way that RI can prevent what they claim they were trying to avoid by including a second option (Option #2) (AND IT IS "#2"..MORE IRONY  ) is to fall in line with Mass with Option#1 and have Ct. follow, NY boats will only be allowed 1 bass per client if they choose to fish our waters. OPTION #2 is now invalid based on the premise that it was originally offered. To do otherwise, to establish mode splits now would be irresponsible and downright disingenuous. I am contacting everyone going back to the meeting before the ASMFC meeting and imploring them to reach out to the Governor and Director on this, I'd encourage all concerned to do so as well, they were either misled, mistaken or willing participants of a hoax which has led to this. This cannot be what they intended based on what we were told and if it somehow was, that would be pretty insidious. I believe, based on what I saw, that some of them were very reluctant including that second option. Perhaps now they will do the right thing.
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03-06-2015, 07:32 AM
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#102
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: A village some where
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Congrats to Mass for thier choice, i can wait to see all.the guys.with2 fish.down the canal, hope they all.get busted.
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03-06-2015, 07:59 AM
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#103
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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For whatever it's worth, I sent an email to Director Coit last night quoting the Mass regs.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-06-2015, 08:09 AM
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#104
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,691
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Originally Posted by piemma
For whatever it's worth, I sent an email to Director Coit last night quoting the Mass regs.
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What is her email again?
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03-06-2015, 08:22 AM
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#105
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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03-06-2015, 08:29 AM
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#106
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Thanks !
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03-06-2015, 08:33 AM
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#107
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Found this in my email when I was searching for another document.
This was in the projo, and was passed to me via RISAA folks back in 2011....
'The coming striped-bass collapse' by Tim Coleman....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-06-2015, 11:37 AM
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#108
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Found this in my email when I was searching for another document.
This was in the projo, and was passed to me via RISAA folks back in 2011....
'The coming striped-bass collapse' by Tim Coleman....
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Tim is up in heaven looking down and saying "I told you so".
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-06-2015, 12:00 PM
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#109
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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So what happens next in Rhode Island?
Who makes the FINAL decision, and when will that happen?
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03-06-2015, 12:05 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Today I contacted assistant DEM Director Robert Ballou to ask him about the process of lobbying Director Coit to support 1 @ 28. He assured me that Director Coit has not yet reached a final decision and that she is fully aware that yesterday Mass recommended 1 @ 28 for all modes.
He also mentioned that: In rendering her final decision, she is bound by the RI Administrative Procedures Act. In accordance with the Act, and per the recommendation of DEM Legal Counsel, she must insulate herself, at this stage, from any further input from, or communications with, anyone outside of the agency viv-a-vis the pending regulatory decision. The reasons for that are fairness for all stakeholders, and maintaining the integrity of the rule-making process. The regulated community and the public as a whole need to be assured that public comments on proposed regulatory changes may only be offered as a matter of public record during the public comment period. Once that comment period closes, which it did last week, the Director can’t entertain further input, as that would open the door to undue influence outside the scope of the public process.
So we may be further ahead contacting Governor Raimondo through her Director of Constituent Services - brad.inman@governor.ri.gov
She (Raimondo) may be the only one to have influence on the outcome at this point.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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03-06-2015, 12:08 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
Tim is up in heaven looking down and saying "I told you so".
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I can still hear his voice discussing this topic with me.
Miss him 
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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03-06-2015, 03:23 PM
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#112
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Narragansett
Posts: 903
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Great job, Dennis. Peter is also sending out e-mails. I wrote yet another letter to Bran Inman.
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