Charlottesville

[detbuch]

Obviously Trump was wrong. It's not about many sides or all sides. It's only about white supremacists:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mas...D=ansmsnnews11

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Obviously Trump was wrong. It's not about many sides or all sides. It's only about white supremacists:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mas...D=ansmsnnews11

Since 911 number of people killed by 28 people were killed as a result of white supremacist by A Ntifa ZERO


Another False equivalence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Since 911 number of people killed by 28 people were killed as a result of white supremacist by A Ntifa ZERO


Another False equivalence

Oh, so if you go by absolute numbers, can we presume you have told Black Lives Matter to stop worrying about white cops, and concentrate on black-on-black violence? After all, which causes more deaths?

Obviously, we need to prioritize our efforts. That doesn't mean that we can't condemn violence by white supremacists, as well as violence by lefty anarchists. In fact, that's exactly what our President did, if memory serves.

You walked right into that one...

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Since 911 number of people killed by 28 people were killed as a result of white supremacist by A Ntifa ZERO


Another False equivalence

Your "False equivalence" accusation is false equivalence. I did not propose an equivalence.

I don't know which violent groups are more equal than the others. Certainly, comparing the number of people killed "as a result of white supremacist[s]" (all such groups?, and what does as a result of mean?) in the last 16 years to a fairly new violence perpetrated by one group (in the past year or two?) is questionable, if not downright misleading.

And it doesn't have anything to do with my post.

I was just pointing out how wrong Trump was when he called out all sides for violence. Obviously, only white supremacists have been violent.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your "False equivalence" accusation is false equivalence. I did not propose an equivalence.

I don't know which violent groups are more equal than the others. Certainly, comparing the number of people killed "as a result of white supremacist[s]" (all such groups?, and what does as a result of mean?) in the last 16 years to a fairly new violence perpetrated by one group (in the past year or two?) is questionable, if not downright misleading.

And it doesn't have anything to do with my post.

I was just pointing out how wrong Trump was when he called out all sides for violence. Obviously, only white supremacists have been violent.

Yes, all the white supremacists who rioted in Ferguson.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your "False equivalence" accusation is false equivalence. I did not propose an equivalence.




I was just pointing out how wrong Trump was when he called out all sides for violence. Obviously, only white supremacists have been violent.

Sure you did... and so did he .... but thats not the real issue now is it... It amazing to see all the push back against Trump and his Comment "Trump when he called out all sides for violence. " From all sides R and D and from leaders around the world on his statement
or was that Fake news?

Its like climate change Conservatives love to find one needle in a Hay stack staying its not happening due to human activity and push that narrative over and over and now you see the same again parsing words to tell us what Trump he ment to say and how everyone doesn't give a chance ..

it get old just like when a friend brings their kid over. who's a Spoiled Brat screaming and crying and the Parents just Say Jonny is just tired .. Some here need to stop being Trumps parents He's not tired

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I never said that so in what post did you think I said it?

I clearly stated any violence is not good but I was more concerned w/the Nazis, KKK than with Antifa (which I view as a group formed against the growing presence of right wing hate groups).

You are more concerned with NeoNazis then a leftist revolution. I see both as abhorrent and incompatible with common decency. When they get violent, people die and neither one of those true believers really care.

Antifa has historical roots in communism / marxism "uniting" against fascism and appeals to commies and anarchists (that love to rally against anything). Professional Ideological schitt stirrers.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Sure you did... and so did he .... but thats not the real issue now is it...

You're right. The issue is the attempt to create an issue when there is none.

It amazing to see all the push back against Trump and his Comment "Trump when he called out all sides for violence. " From all sides R and D and from leaders around the world on his statement
or was that Fake news?

The push back is the attempt to create an issue. The Fake news is the omission or minimalization of those who did not have an issue with what Trump said.

Its like climate change Conservatives love to find one needle in a Hay stack staying its not happening due to human activity and push that narrative over and over and now you see the same again parsing words to tell us what Trump he ment to say and how everyone doesn't give a chance ..

There is no connection to climate change--many of those who found what Trump said to be reasonable may well have differing views on climate change.

There is no parsing of words by Trump's defenders. The exact words are defended. The parsing, if there is any, is done by the fakers who want to change Trump's words into a message of approval for white supremacy.

it get old just like when a friend brings their kid over. who's a Spoiled Brat screaming and crying and the Parents just Say Jonny is just tired .. Some here need to stop being Trumps parents He's not tired

Trump gets criticism by those "some here" when he deserves it. On the other hand, there are "some here" who see everything he says and does as being wrong, racist, homophobic, sexist, yada, yada, yada--that is the fake news.

[Jim in CT]

The liberal doomsayers who would have us believe that there is a racial divide in this country, or a gender divide, or any other kind of divide, are deliberately sowing the seeds of division for their own nefarious purpose. The next time anyone tries to sell you that particular bill of goods, ask that person to explain this photograph from the wake of Hurricane Harvey. It screams of love, duty, and quiet heroism. And it spits a huge loogey right in the face of much that is at the core of liberalism. When your ideology is annihilated by something so fundamentally human (a baby sleeping through a crisis, a loving mom holding the baby to her heart, and a strong man carrying them to safety), it's time to find a new ideology.

[Jim in CT]

funny.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The liberal doomsayers who would have us believe that there is a racial divide in this country, or a gender divide, or any other kind of divide, are deliberately sowing the seeds of division for their own nefarious purpose. y.

Was this sarcasm?

So I guess I never heard oboma called the divider in chief from consertive doomsayers right leaning amnesia of facts