Charlottesville

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Nazis don't have the same history of killing people as Commies?What does Commies have to do with? Are you saying Antifa are commies?

Or Make Believe Nazis (the kind we really have) don't have much a history of killing, no more than the Make Believe Commies.Is the Joe McCarthy type of make believe Commies? The KKK killed enough here - didn't they?

I do think there is enough chance for real violence on the hard right Nazi/Klan types, just as there is from the Commie/Marxist/Anarchist bend.

Should take a close look at the Socialist Rifle Association, Redneck Revolt, and John Brown Gun Club. No better, or IMO, different, than militarized NeoNazis.

Take a look at anyone you want. Anyone who commits violence is the same. But in our country the far right has committed more violence than the far left.

I'm more concerned about our President's reaction to Charlottesville.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Take a look at anyone you want. Anyone who commits violence is the same. But in our country the far right has committed more violence than the far left.

I'm more concerned about our President's reaction to Charlottesville.

Errr, I don't know if the far right has committed more than the far left. Send them both to the klink - IF and WHEN - they have committed violence, and after proper justice.

I am more concerned about a bunch of anarchists and young Marxists running around as an army wanting revolution.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Errr, I don't know if the far right has committed more than the far left. Send them both to the klink - IF and WHEN - they have committed violence, and after proper justice.Just as I've said a few times

I am more concerned about a bunch of anarchists and young Marxists running around as an army wanting revolution.

We can disagree bc at this point I 'm more concerned w/a bunch of Neo Nazis and KKK.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

We can disagree bc at this point I 'm more concerned w/a bunch of Neo Nazis and KKK.

The Nazis and KKK have almost no voice, almost no platform. Granted, even one of them is too many, but how much do we feel their presence, really, in terms of violence they carry out? No one gives them a microphone, no one takes them seriously, they are condemned everywhere, even by the president.

It's not a rising movement that has any momentum whatsoever. Compare that to BLM, ANTIFA, the maniacs who riot every time a conservative has the audacity to open his mouth on a college campus.

Ben Shapiro is a conservative speaker, he's not overly insulting, he's not remotely like Ann Coulter or that Milo guy, not nearly that inflammatory, he graduated from Harvard, which liberals usually associate with people who are very smart. He's going to be at Berkley in September, giving a talk about conservative principles. Watch what happens.

[Got Stripers]

I don't think we will ever know what percentage of the protesters were average Joe's and Janes with old southern roots, that didn't want to see part of their history torn down.

I just think Trump's mouth is so far ahead of common sense that he can't help setting himself up for constant criticism from the press. It was a very bad time to make that statement, that point might have been made separately at a later debate, one tied strictly to the reasoning for removing these historical statues.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But in our country the far right has committed more violence than the far left.

I'm more concerned about our President's reaction to Charlottesville.

"But in our country the far right has committed more violence than the far left. "

That is very, very debatable. Depends on whether you are talking about frequency, severity, deaths, etc. Today, where is widespread violence committed by the right, other than one incident (and one is too many) in Charlotesville?

Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, cop assassinations, riots every time a white cop kills someone of color...of course there are radical righties who commit suicide, but there aren't large groups, large organizations of conservatives dedicated to anarchy.

"I'm more concerned about our President's reaction to Charlottesville"

He condemns all violence and bigotry. What an atrocious position to take.