Pelosi defends MS-13 from Trump

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Of her saying what exactly?

http://www.bostonherald.com/opinion/..._play_for_dems

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

http://www.bostonherald.com/opinion/..._play_for_dems

I'm well aware of what she said, she wasn't defending MS-13 and Trump's accusation she's an MS-13 lover is just more absurdity.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm well aware of what she said, she wasn't defending MS-13 and Trump's accusation she's an MS-13 lover is just more absurdity.

the democraps took trumps statement and used it to attack him claiming he was talking about all immigrants which he clearly was not...trump took the democraps attack claiming that they were defending ms-13 which was what trump was talking about to begin with....

fair is fair...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm well aware of what she said, she wasn't defending MS-13 and Trump's accusation she's an MS-13 lover is just more absurdity.

She may not have defended them, but she most surely did criticize Trump for calling them animals.

“we’re all God’s children. ... Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pelosi criticizing trump for calling ms13 animals.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/pelosi-ms-13-animals/
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

and just because you believe one sides absurdity doesn't make the other sides less absurd.

[scottw]

Pelosi should be playing balloon tennis on a table at an old folks home

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

She may not have defended them, but she most surely did criticize Trump for calling them animals.

“we’re all God’s children. ... Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”



and just because you believe one sides absurdity doesn't make the other sides less absurd.

For a few hours after Trump made the comment, the liberal narrative was that he was referring to all immigrants as "animals". It was a blatant lie, it was obvious he was talking about MS-13, but these kooks are willing to set the truth aside to attack Trump. She may have been assuming that he was talking about all immigrants, but she criticized Trump LONG after everyone else conceded that he was talking about MS-13, and she has never bothered to respond to the fact that he was obviously talking about murderers.

She stepped in it, she refused to admit she made a mistake, so she deserves to get clobbered with it.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

She may not have defended them, but she most surely did criticize Trump for calling them animals.

“we’re all God’s children. ... Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”

By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions? I think the last thing you'd want to do is dehumanize people regardless of their behavior, which is not instinct it is learned.

Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions? I think the last thing you'd want to do is dehumanize people regardless of their behavior, which is not instinct it is learned.

Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved.

Context, Spence....Context

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Context, Spence....Context

And you are 100% correct, Trumps use of the word animals to describe MS-13, is exactly in keeping with that definition of the word 'animal'.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Context, Spence....Context

Ok.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/u...ry-cities.html

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Ok.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/u...ry-cities.html

Point????

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions? I think the last thing you'd want to do is dehumanize people regardless of their behavior, which is not instinct it is learned.

Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved.

"By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions?"

For Gods sake, you know what he meant. They act in a way that's less than human. That's going too fast for you? You can't keep up with Trump's simple mind now?

"Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved"

we are all shocked that you agree with her. Let's see if the people in Wisconsin and Ohio agree with her, come November. That's what matters.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm well aware of what she said, she wasn't defending MS-13 and Trump's accusation she's an MS-13 lover is just more absurdity.

I don't think she loves MS-13. She bought into the lie that he used the term "animals" to apply to all immigrants, when obviously he was talking about MS-13. They couldn't let that go, so they claimed he was talking about all immigrants. They lied.

He will club her with this like a baby seal, and he's right to do so. Trump said that MS-13 are animals, and they took that completely out of context (see, this is what it looks like when someone makes that accusation legitimately), trying to make him out to be a racist.