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06-04-2018, 01:21 PM
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I'm well aware of what she said, she wasn't defending MS-13 and Trump's accusation she's an MS-13 lover is just more absurdity.
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She may not have defended them, but she most surely did criticize Trump for calling them animals.
“we’re all God’s children. ... Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”
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and just because you believe one sides absurdity doesn't make the other sides less absurd.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-04-2018, 01:53 PM
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Pelosi should be playing balloon tennis on a table at an old folks home
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06-04-2018, 02:05 PM
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She may not have defended them, but she most surely did criticize Trump for calling them animals.
“we’re all God’s children. ... Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”
and just because you believe one sides absurdity doesn't make the other sides less absurd.
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For a few hours after Trump made the comment, the liberal narrative was that he was referring to all immigrants as "animals". It was a blatant lie, it was obvious he was talking about MS-13, but these kooks are willing to set the truth aside to attack Trump. She may have been assuming that he was talking about all immigrants, but she criticized Trump LONG after everyone else conceded that he was talking about MS-13, and she has never bothered to respond to the fact that he was obviously talking about murderers.
She stepped in it, she refused to admit she made a mistake, so she deserves to get clobbered with it.
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06-04-2018, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
She may not have defended them, but she most surely did criticize Trump for calling them animals.
“we’re all God’s children. ... Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person?”
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By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions? I think the last thing you'd want to do is dehumanize people regardless of their behavior, which is not instinct it is learned.
Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved.
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06-04-2018, 02:29 PM
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By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions? I think the last thing you'd want to do is dehumanize people regardless of their behavior, which is not instinct it is learned.
Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved.
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Context, Spence....Context
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06-04-2018, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Context, Spence....Context
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And you are 100% correct, Trumps use of the word animals to describe MS-13, is exactly in keeping with that definition of the word 'animal'.
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06-04-2018, 03:06 PM
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Point????
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-04-2018, 03:21 PM
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same as always...democrat=good, republican=bad.
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06-04-2018, 04:08 PM
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That the whole Trump dialogue is intentionally muddy to serve a purpose of fear and division.
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06-04-2018, 07:02 PM
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That the whole Trump dialogue is intentionally muddy to serve a purpose of fear and division.
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So to you, calling MS-13 animals., is fear-mongering and divisive. Have fun with that.
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06-05-2018, 06:26 AM
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That the whole Trump dialogue is intentionally muddy to serve a purpose of fear and division.
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And when Obama said “republicans gotta stop just hatin’ all the time”, that was intended to bring us together? Same with Hilary’s deplorable comments?
Give it a rest. Give the hypocrisy a rest why dontcha??
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06-04-2018, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions? I think the last thing you'd want to do is dehumanize people regardless of their behavior, which is not instinct it is learned.
Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved.
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"By calling them animals doesn't that mean they're not responsible for their actions?"
For Gods sake, you know what he meant. They act in a way that's less than human. That's going too fast for you? You can't keep up with Trump's simple mind now?
"Combine that with Trump's track record of negatively generalizing immigrants and I think her critique is rightly deserved"
we are all shocked that you agree with her. Let's see if the people in Wisconsin and Ohio agree with her, come November. That's what matters.
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