Immigration hysteria

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

"Crimes" Jim. Being in the country illegally isn't a crime. There were other criteria being used to prioritize deportations as your article describes.

Oh FFS, the fact they are here illegally makes it a crime. That's literally what the word Illegal refers to

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/Submit
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
synonyms: unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious;

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Oh FFS, the fact they are here illegally makes it a crime. That's literally what the word Illegal refers to

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/Submit
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
synonyms: unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious;

they refuse to recognize the difference anymore...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

they refuse to recognize the difference anymore...

And this is the singular issue that got him elected. The liberals still haven't learned, they aren't capable of learning, that they are on the losing side of this issue in much of the country. All they see is future reliable votes and a chance to turn TX blue.

I want better conditions for these people. I also want a wall, for the same exact reason why we all lock our doors at night. Easy to be in favor of open borders in New England, but our fellow citizens who live along the border, are entitled to a sense of security as well.

Trump may come out of this, as usual, looking like the winner, he can claim that he inherited this policy (or at least the foundations of it) in laws passed by previous administrations, and he, unlike Obama, cared enough to stop it. Maybe that was his plan all along, he's capable of that.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Oh FFS, the fact they are here illegally makes it a crime. That's literally what the word Illegal refers to

il·le·gal
i(l)ˈlēɡəl/Submit
adjective
1.
contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law.
"illegal drugs"
synonyms: unlawful, illicit, illegitimate, criminal, felonious;

A civil violation is contrary to or forbidden by law. Makes it illegal doesn't make it crime. It's not a crime to be in the US as an undocumented immigrant.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It's not a crime to be in the US as an undocumented immigrant.

IT IS ALL WRONG!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/24/polit...nal/index.html


Under federal law, it is a crime for ANYONE to enter into the US without the approval of an immigration officer.....

....roughly 45% of undocumented immigrants originally entered the US legally, but then remained in the country without authorization after their visas had expired. The penalty for this type of violation of immigration law is DEPORTATION, and according to the ACLU.

If, however, an undocumented immigrant is deported and then returns to the US without permission, then that "illegal re-entry" constitutes a FEDERAL OFFENSE with different tiers of accompanying prison time.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

IT IS ALL WRONG!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/24/polit...nal/index.html


Under federal law, it is a crime for ANYONE to enter into the US without the approval of an immigration officer.....

....roughly 45% of undocumented immigrants originally entered the US legally, but then remained in the country without authorization after their visas had expired. The penalty for this type of violation of immigration law is DEPORTATION, and according to the ACLU.

If, however, an undocumented immigrant is deported and then returns to the US without permission, then that "illegal re-entry" constitutes a FEDERAL OFFENSE with different tiers of accompanying prison time.

That's not Reeeeaaaalllyyyyyyyyyy what it means. you're just taking it out of context.

read it again

That's not what it says

RACIST!!!

(just thought I'd get ahead of the game and save a page or so worth of posts)

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That's not Reeeeaaaalllyyyyyyyyyy what it means. you're just taking it out of context.

read it again

That's not what it says

RACIST!!!

(just thought I'd get ahead of the game and save a page or so worth of posts)

funny that the CNN conclusion after all that is....." being here illegally may not necessarily be a crime".....that's like saying robbing a bank is a crime but spending the money you stole from the bank may not necessarily be a crime....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

funny that the CNN conclusion after all that is....." being here illegally may not necessarily be a crime".....that's like saying robbing a bank is a crime but spending the money you stole from the bank may not necessarily be a crime....

That’s what the law says...sorry. You guys should read it.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

read it again

That's not what it says


(just thought I'd get ahead of the game and save a page or so worth of posts)

it's pretty interesting reading...

title- "Are undocumented immigrants committing a crime? Not necessarily"

conclusion- "So although there are more than 11 million unauthorized immigrants living in the US, they haven't all committed a crime just by being in the country."

if you came on a work visa...you were "documented"....if you snuck across the border...you were not "documented"....if you overstay your visa you are up for deportation...if you snuck across the border I guess you just get to stay