Striped bass meeting yesterday???

[piemma]

Anyone hear any results? I've checked FB and don't see anything. Nothing here either.

[piemma]

So it looks like 2-A2 passed. Slot 28" to 35". Anything over 35" has to be released. It's a start....

[Guppy]

That was my choice, the majority by show of hands at the DMF hearing earlier this month was min. 34”...

[tlapinski]

Here is what I posted on Facebook:

I'm seeing lots of misinformation and incomplete stories being spread right now regarding striped bass by those who either didn't sit in on the meeting or do not understand what went down. The 28-35 inch slot that was "passed" today is not written in ink, it's hardly written in pencil as there is a big eraser looming in the way of conservation equivalency. States may propose any options they want so long as it meets the tc's 18% reduction. Proposals are due by 11/30/19 with final decisions to be made at the ASMFC's February meeting. No matter which regulation you prefer we are far from settled on the 2020 & beyond regs.

[niko]

It is my understanding that this is not the final decision. Some states will go with the conservation equivalency and a final decision will be made in February
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[Guppy]

Originally Posted by piemma

So it looks like 2-A2 passed. Slot 28" to 35". Anything over 35" has to be released. It's a start....

Go to work.... LOL

[piemma]

Originally Posted by tlapinski

Here is what I posted on Facebook:

I'm seeing lots of misinformation and incomplete stories being spread right now regarding striped bass by those who either didn't sit in on the meeting or do not understand what went down. The 28-35 inch slot that was "passed" today is not written in ink, it's hardly written in pencil as there is a big eraser looming in the way of conservation equivalency. States may propose any options they want so long as it meets the tc's 18% reduction. Proposals are due by 11/30/19 with final decisions to be made at the ASMFC's February meeting. No matter which regulation you prefer we are far from settled on the 2020 & beyond regs.

Toby, understood but at least they are "considering" some mitigation of the current problem. It's wait and see.

[Got Stripers]

What drove that particular slot limit? While I'm happy to see its under consideration, I'm curious what criteria is used to pick the slot size.

[beamie]

Geez

When they finally pass some sort of conservation rule why can’t they make it simple and make it coastwise vice let each state make their own 18% reduction

Also I thought I read somewhere that mathematically a slot system didn’t work too well for a species since then that size will be targeted heavy. Could be wrong but thought it was proven that it didn’t work.
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[tlapinski]

Here is my complete write-up on the meeting.
http://www.thefisherman.com/index.cf...CWMlbAVameBuFc

[Clammer]

My guess is in RI .no matter what they pass the RI charter boats will have a exception ><><

[numbskull]

Keep in mind that neither the size limit nor the circle hook requirement apply to the commercial fishery.

As for the 18% commercial reduction, less than 70% of the MA quota was filled this year so an 18% reduction from the allowed quota would have had (and likely will have) no effect at all on the number of large fish killed by the commercial fishery in this state.

[tlapinski]

Originally Posted by Clammer

My guess is in RI .no matter what they pass the RI charter boats will have a exception ><><

The RIPCBA is working on getting a CE proposal together according to a post I read today on Facebook. They went on record as wanting status quo in the public comments, which I can understand the argument behind (not saying I agree or disagree with it personally) based on the difference in the inshore vs Block Island fishery.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by niko

It is my understanding that this is not the final decision. Some states will go with the conservation equivalency and a final decision will be made in February
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The only thing that will be decided in February is whether to approve or not each state's CE proposal.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by beamie

Geez

When they finally pass some sort of conservation rule why can’t they make it simple and make it coastwise vice let each state make their own 18% reduction

Also I thought I read somewhere that mathematically a slot system didn’t work too well for a species since then that size will be targeted heavy. Could be wrong but thought it was proven that it didn’t work.
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With CE available that basically what they did, albeit in a round about way. As long as a state's proposed rules reduce the catch by 18% they will be approved.

I agree, I think a slot is a poor choice.

[thefishingfreak]

This accomplishes nothing for the Massachusetts recreational sector.
28"-35" fish are pretty much the target size and fairly easy to catch.

[nightfighter]

Help clarify this for me, please. There are a number of committees within the ASMFC. Which one voted at the meeting in NH, and which will have the final decision? Who ultimately holds the power????
The three striped bass committees are; the Board, the Technical Committee, and the Advisory Panel.


http://www.asmfc.org/about-us/boards-committees-panels



Toby, thank you for your write up, as you are a voice of someone who was there.... (link above)

But why the Chesapeake Bay minimum of 18"?

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Help clarify this for me, please. There are a number of committees within the ASMFC. Which one voted at the meeting in NH, and which will have the final decision? Who ultimately holds the power????
The three striped bass committees are; the Board, the Technical Committee, and the Advisory Panel.


http://www.asmfc.org/about-us/boards-committees-panels



Toby, thank you for your write up, as you are a voice of someone who was there.... (link above)

But why the Chesapeake Bay minimum of 18"?

Th boards or each species are the ultimate decision makers for the species. The tech Committee is staff that does what the board tells them to do and the advisory panel is just that, they advise the board but don't have any decision making authority. The 18" size limit is only in Chesapeake bay and its because they don't have any big females for most of the year. All of the spawning size females migrate out of the bay after spawning.

[beamie]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

The 18" size limit is only in Chesapeake bay and its because they don't have any big females for most of the year. All of the spawning size females migrate out of the bay after spawning.

I get that but.......
They do have big females at least for 2 periods of the year. We don’t have big females on a cold day in December or January up here! We can’t keep schoolers up here in April before the big fish show.
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[MAKAI]

The more you throw government at a problem the more “F”d it will become.
Committees up the ass.
Simplify it aka Occam’s razor.
It’s not rocket science.
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