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11-25-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Pete: Jordan is a bigot, because some guy was impressed that Mike Gerson said so.
Jim: what's the evidence that Jordan is a bigot:
Pete: Gerson's resume is impressive
Jim: I agree. But what's the evidence that Jordan is a bigot?
Pete: I saw him lie, misquote, and yell at a witness.
One last time, Pete...what is the evidence he's a bigot? I'm not interested in evidence that he's a grey haired white guy, or that he's gruff, or even that he's a cannibal. You posted that he's a bigot. I've asked you twice previously, you've had all day, what's the evidence he's a bigot?
Answer: there is no evidence he's a bigot. But he disagrees with you on some policies, so he must be destroyed, no matter how fabricated the charges you need to levy against him.
You're pathetic. In a couple of days you quoted Ken Starr in an amazingly misleading fashion, now you're making up charges of bigotry out of thin air. People who really feel the facts are on their side, don't resort to this BS.
I didn't say I was impressed with Jordan. I asked for evidence of the accusation you made. I'm not even saying he's a good guy. I'm saying accusations of bigotry from your side, are getting tiresome.
You must be some obsessed with him, if you maintain he's a bigot, despite having zero evidence.
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What gets tiring is your victimization by one word out of hundreds
The definition of bigotry from the Oxford Dictionary is: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself
I certainly agree with Gerson that Gym Jordan continually exhibits the behavior of a bigot by the Oxford definition.
So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.
“the Truly Trumpian Man – guided by xxxxxxx, seized by conspiracy theories, dismissive of facts and truth, indifferent to ethics, contemptuous of institutional norms and ruthlessly dedicated to the success of a demagogue.”
You can't because the pathos that drives you to support Floridaman and his toadies at any cost won't let you.
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11-25-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What gets tiring is your victimization by one word out of hundreds
The definition of bigotry from the Oxford Dictionary is: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself
I certainly agree with Gerson that Gym Jordan continually exhibits the behavior of a bigot by the Oxford definition.
So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.
“the Truly Trumpian Man – guided by xxxxxxx, seized by conspiracy theories, dismissive of facts and truth, indifferent to ethics, contemptuous of institutional norms and ruthlessly dedicated to the success of a demagogue.”
You can't because the pathos that drives you to support Floridaman and his toadies at any cost won't let you.
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"So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.'
When that one word, is constantly used by your side to demonize everyone who disagrees with them. I just asked for evidence. I still don't see any, other than you said you agree with it. That's not evidence.
"Indifferent to ethics"? Jordan is amoral? Again, evidence, please. You seem to be under the impression that you stating a criticism, is evidence that it's valid criticism. It's not.
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11-25-2019, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"So Jim, take the ONE word out that triggers you and defend Gym Jordan from Gerson's statement.'
When that one word, is constantly used by your side to demonize everyone who disagrees with them. I just asked for evidence. I still don't see any, other than you said you agree with it. That's not evidence.
"Indifferent to ethics"? Jordan is amoral? Again, evidence, please. You seem to be under the impression that you stating a criticism, is evidence that it's valid criticism. It's not.
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Apparently you have no issue with Gym Jordan, if you can't see the issues with him, I won't be able to convince a bigot like you any differently.
That's the Oxford definition but if you choose to project other meanings onto it, feel free.
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11-25-2019, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Apparently you have no issue with Gym Jordan, if you can't see the issues with him, I won't be able to convince a bigot like you any differently.
That's the Oxford definition but if you choose to project other meanings onto it, feel free.
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My issue, is with those who toss around labels like "bigot", while offering exactly zero evidence. I asked you 4-5 times for evidence, any evidence, that Jordan is what you, or the author you quoted, say he is.'
Let's stick with the Oxford definition. What's the evidence that Jordan has any malice for everyone who disagrees with him? Because he was gruff with a couple of impeachment witnesses, makes him a bigot? Is that what you're suggesting?
You're having a tough week, Pete. Take some deep breaths.
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11-25-2019, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
My issue, is with those who toss around labels like "bigot", while offering exactly zero evidence. I asked you 4-5 times for evidence, any evidence, that Jordan is what you, or the author you quoted, say he is.'
Let's stick with the Oxford definition. What's the evidence that Jordan has any malice for everyone who disagrees with him? Because he was gruff with a couple of impeachment witnesses, makes him a bigot? Is that what you're suggesting?
You're having a tough week, Pete. Take some deep breaths.
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Class act in action
He gets far more leeway in Congress than he would in a court of law, though that doesn't matter since he never passed the bar.
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11-25-2019, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Class act in action
He gets far more leeway in Congress than he would in a court of law, though that doesn't matter since he never passed the bar.
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And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen. SO if interrupting people makes Jordan a bigot, what does interrupting people make Schiff...let me guess...a hero.
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11-25-2019, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen. SO if interrupting people makes Jordan a bigot, what does interrupting people make Schiff...let me guess...a hero.
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What about Schiff, is it?
I would surmise that if Schiff was not in Congress, he could return to his career as a prosecuting attorney.
Jim Jordan???????
Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school
Schiff
After law school, Schiff served as a law clerk for Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California. From 1987 to 1993, he was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California. While in this position, Schiff came to public attention when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who was convicted of spying for the Soviet Union.
Then he went into politics.
Jordan
Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's (OSU) wrestling program from 1987 to 1995. During his tenure as Assistant Coach, at least 53 members of the Wrestling Team were sexually abused by the team physician. Jordan has refused to cooperate with the investigations into sexual misconduct at OSU and has refused all requests to be interviewed.
Then he went into politics.
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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11-25-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen.
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He's the chair of the committee, it's his job to keep it running under the rules.
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11-25-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Apparently you have no issue with Gym Jordan, if you can't see the issues with him, I won't be able to convince a bigot like you any differently.
That's the Oxford definition but if you choose to project other meanings onto it, feel free.
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Last week on national TV, CNN "anchor" Don Lemon said that everyone who disagrees with him on Trump's behavior, is "mental". That's the word he used.
Would you say Don Lemon is a bigot?
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11-25-2019, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Last week on national TV, CNN "anchor" Don Lemon said that everyone who disagrees with him on Trump's behavior, is "mental". That's the word he used.
Would you say Don Lemon is a bigot?
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By definition, yes.
That might also mean, he is prejudiced.
In this case it might mean he exhibits some common sense, but your prejudice and bigotry won't let you see that.
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