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11-25-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
You said Jordan was a bigot because he interrupts people. I pointed out that Schiff is known to do that too, so I asked if that makes Schiff a bigot.
It wasn't about Schiff. It was about your absurd claim that those who interrupt people, are bigots. Even more absurd, you believe that only republicans who interrupt people are bigots.
The investigation done by the school found absolutely zero evidence that Jordan knew anything. If there is any evidence, I'll say he has absolutely no business serving in Congress. I won't say that, based solely on an accusation.
Schiff also had that moment that reeked on maturity and sanity, when he read a parody letter of the conversation between Trump and the president of Ukraine. That wasn't weird at all, nope.
Jordan has a bachelors in Economics, a Masters in education, and went to Law school. You left some of that stuff out. I'm sure it was an accidental omission, you weren't trying to paint him in a negative light on purpose.
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It's that reading comprehension thing again...........
Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school
Lawyers hired by OSU to probe the allegations said Jordan was contacted — both by phone and email — to request an interview, but he never responded.
And three members of the wrestling team under Jordan insist that he knew about the abuse but looked the other way.
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11-25-2019, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
It's that reading comprehension thing again...........
Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school
Lawyers hired by OSU to probe the allegations said Jordan was contacted — both by phone and email — to request an interview, but he never responded.
And three members of the wrestling team under Jordan insist that he knew about the abuse but looked the other way.
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the ohio state probe found zero evidence he knew. some
victims
suing the school, claim
he knew.
once again, there has been an accusation. and for you, when the accused is a republican, that’s enough.
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11-25-2019, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the ohio state probe found zero evidence he knew. some
victims
suing the school, claim
he knew.
once again, there has been an accusation. and for you, when the accused is a republican, that’s enough.
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Perhaps only if there was a tape, multiple witnesses is not enough.
When someone refuses to cooperate with an investigation, sound familiar, they lose the opportunity to absolve themselves of involvement.
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11-25-2019, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Perhaps only if there was a tape, multiple witnesses is not enough.
When someone refuses to cooperate with an investigation, sound familiar, they lose the opportunity to absolve themselves of involvement.
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if the witnesses can offer
no more than second- or third-hand hearsay and presumptions, than what have they witnessed?
in this country Pete, an accusation isn’t evidence. An accusation isn’t even circumstantial evidence.
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11-25-2019, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
if the witnesses can offer
no more than second- or third-hand hearsay and presumptions, than what have they witnessed?
in this country Pete, an accusation isn’t evidence. An accusation isn’t even circumstantial evidence.
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But their certainly is enough of a predicate to subpoena the rest of the documents that have been withheld and compel the witnesses to testify, the hearings in the House to date are similar to Grand juries and were previously carried out by in Clinton's case in private by Ken Starr and in Nixon's by Archibald Cox and then Leon Jaworski.
The Trumplicans demanded that the hearings be conducted in public this time.
Sondland is not second or third hand, and none of the rest are suffering from delusions. Did they seem to not understand the subject matter to you?
Call Guiliani to testify, though he has enough problems that he might have to use his insurance. Testifying might be his blanket policy.........
He looks like he is about to go down faster than Dangle's on ScottW and he won't go down alone.
Potential charges under consideration for America's Mayor:
- obstruction of justice
- money laundering
- conspiracy to defraud the U.S.
- making false statements
- FARA violations
- donating foreign $ in another person’s name
Just so you understand, if they are naming charges they will be issued shortly, all the preliminary work is done. Just crossing the t's and dotting the i's.
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11-26-2019, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Sondland is not second or third hand, and none of the rest are suffering from delusions.
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No. He had a presumption. In his own words, all Sondland had was a presumption. His opening statement made it sound like he had more, and everyone ran with that. But he had zilch. Zero direct evidence, other than testifying that Trump said he wanted nothing.
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