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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the witnesses can offer
no more than second- or third-hand hearsay and presumptions, than what have they witnessed?

in this country Pete, an accusation isn’t evidence. An accusation isn’t even circumstantial evidence.
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But their certainly is enough of a predicate to subpoena the rest of the documents that have been withheld and compel the witnesses to testify, the hearings in the House to date are similar to Grand juries and were previously carried out by in Clinton's case in private by Ken Starr and in Nixon's by Archibald Cox and then Leon Jaworski.

The Trumplicans demanded that the hearings be conducted in public this time.

Sondland is not second or third hand, and none of the rest are suffering from delusions. Did they seem to not understand the subject matter to you?

Call Guiliani to testify, though he has enough problems that he might have to use his insurance. Testifying might be his blanket policy.........

He looks like he is about to go down faster than Dangle's on ScottW and he won't go down alone.

Potential charges under consideration for America's Mayor:
- obstruction of justice
- money laundering
- conspiracy to defraud the U.S.
- making false statements
- FARA violations
- donating foreign $ in another person’s name

Just so you understand, if they are naming charges they will be issued shortly, all the preliminary work is done. Just crossing the t's and dotting the i's.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Sondland is not second or third hand, and none of the rest are suffering from delusions.
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No. He had a presumption. In his own words, all Sondland had was a presumption. His opening statement made it sound like he had more, and everyone ran with that. But he had zilch. Zero direct evidence, other than testifying that Trump said he wanted nothing.