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Old 11-25-2019, 11:17 AM   #1
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Class act in action

He gets far more leeway in Congress than he would in a court of law, though that doesn't matter since he never passed the bar.

And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen. SO if interrupting people makes Jordan a bigot, what does interrupting people make Schiff...let me guess...a hero.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:32 AM   #2
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And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen. SO if interrupting people makes Jordan a bigot, what does interrupting people make Schiff...let me guess...a hero.
What about Schiff, is it?

I would surmise that if Schiff was not in Congress, he could return to his career as a prosecuting attorney.

Jim Jordan???????

Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school

Schiff
After law school, Schiff served as a law clerk for Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California. From 1987 to 1993, he was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California. While in this position, Schiff came to public attention when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who was convicted of spying for the Soviet Union.
Then he went into politics.

Jordan
Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's (OSU) wrestling program from 1987 to 1995. During his tenure as Assistant Coach, at least 53 members of the Wrestling Team were sexually abused by the team physician. Jordan has refused to cooperate with the investigations into sexual misconduct at OSU and has refused all requests to be interviewed.
Then he went into politics.

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Old 11-25-2019, 01:55 PM   #3
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What about Schiff, is it?

I would surmise that if Schiff was not in Congress, he could return to his career as a prosecuting attorney.

Jim Jordan???????

Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school

Schiff
After law school, Schiff served as a law clerk for Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. of the United States District Court for the Central District of California. From 1987 to 1993, he was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California. While in this position, Schiff came to public attention when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who was convicted of spying for the Soviet Union.
Then he went into politics.

Jordan
Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach with Ohio State University's (OSU) wrestling program from 1987 to 1995. During his tenure as Assistant Coach, at least 53 members of the Wrestling Team were sexually abused by the team physician. Jordan has refused to cooperate with the investigations into sexual misconduct at OSU and has refused all requests to be interviewed.
Then he went into politics.
You said Jordan was a bigot because he interrupts people. I pointed out that Schiff is known to do that too, so I asked if that makes Schiff a bigot.

It wasn't about Schiff. It was about your absurd claim that those who interrupt people, are bigots. Even more absurd, you believe that only republicans who interrupt people are bigots.

The investigation done by the school found absolutely zero evidence that Jordan knew anything. If there is any evidence, I'll say he has absolutely no business serving in Congress. I won't say that, based solely on an accusation.

Schiff also had that moment that reeked on maturity and sanity, when he read a parody letter of the conversation between Trump and the president of Ukraine. That wasn't weird at all, nope.

Jordan has a bachelors in Economics, a Masters in education, and went to Law school. You left some of that stuff out. I'm sure it was an accidental omission, you weren't trying to paint him in a negative light on purpose.
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:30 PM   #4
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You said Jordan was a bigot because he interrupts people. I pointed out that Schiff is known to do that too, so I asked if that makes Schiff a bigot.

It wasn't about Schiff. It was about your absurd claim that those who interrupt people, are bigots. Even more absurd, you believe that only republicans who interrupt people are bigots.

The investigation done by the school found absolutely zero evidence that Jordan knew anything. If there is any evidence, I'll say he has absolutely no business serving in Congress. I won't say that, based solely on an accusation.

Schiff also had that moment that reeked on maturity and sanity, when he read a parody letter of the conversation between Trump and the president of Ukraine. That wasn't weird at all, nope.

Jordan has a bachelors in Economics, a Masters in education, and went to Law school. You left some of that stuff out. I'm sure it was an accidental omission, you weren't trying to paint him in a negative light on purpose.
It's that reading comprehension thing again...........

Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school

Lawyers hired by OSU to probe the allegations said Jordan was contacted — both by phone and email — to request an interview, but he never responded.

And three members of the wrestling team under Jordan insist that he knew about the abuse but looked the other way.

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Old 11-25-2019, 02:33 PM   #5
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It's that reading comprehension thing again...........

Lets see what they both did after graduating from law school

Lawyers hired by OSU to probe the allegations said Jordan was contacted — both by phone and email — to request an interview, but he never responded.

And three members of the wrestling team under Jordan insist that he knew about the abuse but looked the other way.
the ohio state probe found zero evidence he knew. some
victims
suing the school, claim
he knew.

once again, there has been an accusation. and for you, when the accused is a republican, that’s enough.
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:46 PM   #6
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the ohio state probe found zero evidence he knew. some
victims
suing the school, claim
he knew.

once again, there has been an accusation. and for you, when the accused is a republican, that’s enough.
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Perhaps only if there was a tape, multiple witnesses is not enough.

When someone refuses to cooperate with an investigation, sound familiar, they lose the opportunity to absolve themselves of involvement.

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Old 11-25-2019, 03:46 PM   #7
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Perhaps only if there was a tape, multiple witnesses is not enough.

When someone refuses to cooperate with an investigation, sound familiar, they lose the opportunity to absolve themselves of involvement.
if the witnesses can offer
no more than second- or third-hand hearsay and presumptions, than what have they witnessed?

in this country Pete, an accusation isn’t evidence. An accusation isn’t even circumstantial evidence.
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:04 PM   #8
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And I can post video of Schiff interrupting witnesses and fellow Congressmen.
He's the chair of the committee, it's his job to keep it running under the rules.
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Old 11-25-2019, 02:10 PM   #9
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He's the chair of the committee, it's his job to keep it running under the rules.
Agreed. There are reasons why you can interrupt someone, and it doesn't mean one is a bigot.

I wasn't the one who claimed any connection between one's penchant for interrupting others, and bigotry.
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