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[wdmso]

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

You probably don’t hear much about it on your news sources. I guess the 1900 shooting victims to date this year are faux concerns also..🤯

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You probably don’t hear much about it on your news sources. I guess the 1900 shooting victims to date this year are faux concerns also..🤯

Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If it wasn't for Chicago conservatives wouldn't have anything to complain about. It's the same every year every summer ... and they have been using it for decades and it's always a distraction from the issue of the day. Sprinkled With faux concerns...

Are you kidding? Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, ST Louis...

The question isn't why do conservatives continue to bring these things up. the question is, why do liberals do everything they can, to avoid talking about what's happening in these cities, and why? answer - talking about gang violence and its actual causes, doesn't help democrats win elections...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Are you kidding? Seattle, Baltimore, Detroit, ST Louis...

The question isn't why do conservatives continue to bring these things up. the question is, why do liberals do everything they can, to avoid talking about what's happening in these cities, and why? answer - talking about gang violence and its actual causes, doesn't help democrats win elections...

Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care...Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

I have no illusions.. dems dont avoid talking about whats happening because it happen every year and has been for decades ... I just love the revisionist view conservatives have on the topic

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care...Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

I have no illusions.. dems dont avoid talking about whats happening because it happen every year and has been for decades ... I just love the revisionist view conservatives have on the topic

"Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care.'

Is it my imagination that conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities like Chicago? Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? AM I imagining it that democrats oppose these ideas? Am I imagining it that democrats have an obvious vested interest in making sure that huge numbers of impoverished people continue to live in cities, since 95% of them vote democrat? That's all in my head? Interesting.

Please answer this specifically...is it only in my imagination that at the last SOTU, republicans were wildly celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever, while democrats were miserable about that fact? What's your response to that, exactly? Is that what happened? And if so, why? Why didn't the democrats see low black unemployment as a cause for celebration?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Jim its only in your imagination that Conservatives even care.'

Is it my imagination that conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities like Chicago? Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? AM I imagining it that democrats oppose these ideas? Am I imagining it that democrats have an obvious vested interest in making sure that huge numbers of impoverished people continue to live in cities, since 95% of them vote democrat? That's all in my head? Interesting.

Please answer this specifically...is it only in my imagination that at the last SOTU, republicans were wildly celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever, while democrats were miserable about that fact? What's your response to that, exactly? Is that what happened? And if so, why? Why didn't the democrats see low black unemployment as a cause for celebration?

Yes jim its fantasy conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities... love to see this policy


Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? Jim you cant mandate those things in a policy is a wish list ... your kool aid delusional

And here we go again with the lowest black unemployment Jim you do understand that high tide floats all boats .... nothing was done by Trump to help blacks directly, now he takes credit for unintentional consequences, because if makes him look good... but glad to see you silent on his covid unintentional consequences but black unemployment

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yes jim its fantasy conservatives embrace the exact policies that will reduce the cycle of poverty and violence in cities... love to see this policy


Specifically, strong traditional families, the benefit of faith, school choice, good jobs with upward economic mobility? Jim you cant mandate those things in a policy is a wish list ... your kool aid delusional

And here we go again with the lowest black unemployment Jim you do understand that high tide floats all boats .... nothing was done by Trump to help blacks directly, now he takes credit for unintentional consequences, because if makes him look good... but glad to see you silent on his covid unintentional consequences but black unemployment

you can absolutely mandate school
choice. as to encouraging families, obviously you can’t mandate it, but you can encourage it ( which conservatives tend to do) or you can mock it and say masculinity is toxic ( which liberals tend to do). you deny that?

“nothing was done by trump
to help
blacks directly”. they were helped as everyone else was helped, duh. you don’t comment on why democrats were saddened by low black
unemployment.

i’m not silent on covid, i give poor grades to all who
encouraged stupid behavior.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

It sounds like the amount of vandalism hasn't been that widespread. The local police were handling it but also infringing on the rights of the majority of peaceful protesters. Since the secret police have shown up it looks like it has gotten a lot worse.

This is mostly a PR stunt, potentially illegal and people are getting hurt because of it.

They are not secret - they have shoulder patches and police on them. We can have a well reasoned discussion on: whether or not we should send in federal law enforcement dressed in Army kit, protecting Federal property (that local elected officials are not), whether or not to HAVE police forces dressed up in combat kit, allowing protesting but not allowing riots / vandalism / destruction, and the wilful abdication of local elected officials that would not let local law enforcement handle it.

Originally Posted by nightfighter

I reached out via email to an old college girlfriend who lives in Portland. She always was crunchy granola type, but here is a condensed version of her response;

We are a feisty bunch- and rebellious and independent. And so we do not want the !@#$%^&*( Feds messing with our protests. Yes we are fine - we are all at home! Although my daughter and I are going to go join the wall of moms that are lining up to protect the protestors. There are the protestors (good) and the rioters (bad)- but the Feds being here is very bad news PDX will not back down. Our city is a mess though- all boarded up and graffiti everywhere....tough times


This is from a well educated 60 year old Oregon native woman, with adult kids, who has lived abroad in Asia as her husband's job in finance took them to many financial capitals and last I knew, he was with the Federal Reserve... Not what I expected, but that is my ground zero report.... My response simply pointed out their plan of action had some glaring holes in it.... like bring a water bottle to a gunfight.

On a different note, my new 2A4life shoulder holster has shipped!

I watched videos last night of these punks trying to light Federal Courthouse on fire.

Originally Posted by wdmso

Aug. 6, 2018: 74 people shot, 12 fatally, in Chicago over the weekend

I2018. In total, the year saw an estimated 2,391 shootings with 2,948 shooting victims, police said. In 2017, there were 2,777 shootings and in 2016 there were 3,550.


Funny Trump didn't send any one in any of these years so yea faux concerns...


Can you say election

He threatened to send in Federal Law enforcement.

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ask yourself, just what crime did this man commit?

Everything he did was within his First Amendment rights and he was assaulted by the Graffiti Gestapo.

He was told to leave several times, went up to the police to discuss what they were doing, was told to leave, and they (somewhat stupidly) thwacked him a few times. He wanted to see these "most are vets, but by their predominate sleeve tats, most were enlisted f vcks" . A true champion of class politics.