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[Got Stripers]

The partial travel ban is Jim’s fallback.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

The partial travel ban is Jim’s fallback.

My fallback, is that when liberals say he didn't do enough, I'll point out that back then, they said he did too much.

The travel ban, is completely irrelevant. What is relevant, is that liberals said it was an overreaction. The same people who said then that he overreacted, now say he didn't do enough.

That logic may make sense to you, seeing as you somehow conclude that the economy is now at its worst point since the great depression. To non-deranged people, that logic is, to put it politely, lacking.

Tell me more! What stocks should we buy this year? Share your economic knowledge with all of us, don't hoard it to yourself.

You sure showed me...

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

My fallback, is that when liberals say he didn't do enough, I'll point out that back then, they said he did too much.

The travel ban, is completely irrelevant. What is relevant, is that liberals said it was an overreaction. The same people who said then that he overreacted, now say he didn't do enough.

That logic may make sense to you, seeing as you somehow conclude that the economy is now at its worst point since the great depression. To non-deranged people, that logic is, to put it politely, lacking.

Tell me more! What stocks should we buy this year? Share your economic knowledge with all of us, don't hoard it to yourself.

You sure showed me...

The "liberals" you bitch about reacted early on in a negative way were NOT in charge and since many others have covered some of the context of those statements by the left, I'm not going to waste time reposted. Screen doors in submarines don't work and partial travel bans without an aggressive national plane to follow don't work either. Trump knew how bad this was going to be and he didn't evolve with the problem, because he was more concerned about his image and how this was going to impact his chances of a second term. If you don't think the messaging from the top, especially in light of what he knew (woodward tapes are very telling), then you are blind.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

If you don't think the messaging from the top, especially in light of what he knew (woodward tapes are very telling), then you are blind.

If messaging from the top is that powerful, why did so many states have lockdowns, with people wearing masks and avoiding each other. If everybody blindly listens to Trump, why we were all being so responsible?

On what basis would you say Trumps "messaging" caused more deaths than Gov Cuomo ordering nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents?

Cuomo wasn't a victim of early-days ignorance. By the time he issued his genocidal order, the entire world knew that the elderly were the most at risk. That was well known when that Mensa candidate deliberately sent that disease to nursing homes. But none of you are critical of him. And despite what you say, he was and is in charge of his state.

This is all partisan political BS. liberal=good, conservative=bad. Nothing any of you say (except rockhound), goes against that. Never.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If



Cuomo wasn't a victim of early-days ignorance. By the time he issued his genocidal order, the entire world knew that the elderly were the most at risk. That was well known when that Mensa candidate deliberately sent that disease to nursing homes. But none of you are critical of him. And despite what you say, he was and is in charge of his state.r.

I love how you always fall back on the nursing home argument.

Nursing Homes & Assisted Living Facilities Account for 42% of COVID-19 Deaths

WHO do you blame for deaths not in New York


Ps At issue is a directive that Mr. Cuomo’s administration delivered in late March, effectively ordering nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients from hospitals.

The goal was to free up hospitals’ beds at a time when those facilities were being overwhelmed by fresh waves of virus patients

Yes Jim it was a bad decision but to suggest to suggest malicious intent.

Seems your hate is miss directed Trumps killed 200k by your own logic if i recall you blamed obama for for 12k deaths when you thought covid was BS like Trump .. now you acting all righteous its comical

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I love how you always fall back on the nursing home argument.

Nursing Homes & Assisted Living Facilities Account for 42% of COVID-19 Deaths

WHO do you blame for deaths not in New York


Ps At issue is a directive that Mr. Cuomo’s administration delivered in late March, effectively ordering nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients from hospitals.

The goal was to free up hospitals’ beds at a time when those facilities were being overwhelmed by fresh waves of virus patients

Yes Jim it was a bad decision but to suggest to suggest malicious intent.

Seems your hate is miss directed Trumps killed 200k by your own logic if i recall you blamed obama for for 12k deaths when you thought covid was BS like Trump .. now you acting all righteous its comical

ok einstein, everyone knew this disease was going to be brutal in the elderly. so not every elderly death, is someone’s fault.

but you don’t need to go to johns hopkins medical
school, to know it’s beyond stupid to force nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents. nursing homes aren’t hospitals, they’re not set up to triage or isolate those who need urgent care, that’s what hospitals do.

i work for a company that sellls
professional liability insurance to
nursing homes. i was on calls every day with lawyers and doctors and NY state legislators, we were all begging the state to reaching that idiotic order.

chino is t responsible for every death. he is absolutely, 100% responsible for a fair number of them. there was hospital sieve for those people, but oh no, he had to send them
to nursing homes.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

The "liberals" you bitch about reacted early on in a negative way were NOT in charge .

Governor Cuomo was not the chief executive of the state of NY in January?

What the f^ck are you talking about?

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Governor Cuomo was not the chief executive of the state of NY in January?

What the f^ck are you talking about?

Reacting to comments Pelosi made, pretty sure she isn't in charge of the white house or NY.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Reacting to comments Pelosi made, pretty sure she isn't in charge of the white house or NY.

You didn't limit your remark to Pelosi. You said the liberals I attacked weren't in charge.

Was Gov Cuomo the chief executive of NY when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents?

What did Trump force people to do, which caused more deaths, than what Cuomo forced nursing homes to do?

HAVE FUN ANSERING THAT.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You didn't limit your remark to Pelosi. You said the liberals I attacked weren't in charge.

Was Gov Cuomo the chief executive of NY when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents?

What did Trump force people to do, which caused more deaths, than what Cuomo forced nursing homes to do?

HAVE FUN ANSERING THAT.

Have fun answering why the messaging still to this day, with record numbers of new cases, continues to be outright lies and dangerous. Cuomo was presented with extreme conditions and overloaded hospitals and since I am not educated on all the details and parameters he had to consider, all I can say is I hope he had little choice. You keep looking for a win on this Covid issue, what could poor Trump have done differently, good god Jim how about NEVER lying to the American public. He has done so from the start (5 soon to be zero) and continues today, my arse we have turned the corner; I’m expected to just live with the virus and his ineptitude.