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11-16-2021, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
If Babbitt chased you, and while you were down, she lifted a gun and pointed it at your head, would you shoot her?
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If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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11-16-2021, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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I don’t think killing comes natural to most people. Had he shot Rittenhouse he would likely have been heralded as a hero for stopping suck a reckless teenager. So sad all around.
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11-16-2021, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don’t think killing comes natural to most people. Had he shot Rittenhouse he would likely have been heralded as a hero for stopping suck a reckless teenager. So sad all around.
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I don’t think it does either, but if you put yourself into a situation that is quite possibly violent and bring a weapon, it’s not because you’re there to give people first aid.
But he had Bandaids
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11-16-2021, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I don’t think killing comes natural to most people. Had he shot Rittenhouse he would likely have been heralded as a hero for stopping suck a reckless teenager. So sad all around.
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very sad all around. 100% correct.
and a textbook example of why it’s a horrible idea for local government ( and the feds) to allow these riots to continue until rioters run out of Molatov cocktails. When a governor decides that being seen as sympathetic to BLM is more important than keeping peace, he’s asking for this to happen.
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11-16-2021, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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So, without knowing why he was being chased, nor why he defended himself from the attackers, you would have shot him? Judge, jury, and executioner? From the prejudicial, biased, and often hateful comments you make, that's not surprising.
And, given all the facts revealed in this trial, you think you would have been exonerated as acting in self defense?
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11-16-2021, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So, without knowing why he was being chased, nor why he defended himself from the attackers, you would have shot him? Judge, jury, and executioner? From the prejudicial, biased, and often hateful comments you make, that's not surprising.
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Why else would you bring a gun?
To administer first aid?
Isn’t a gun the NRA way?
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11-16-2021, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Why else would you bring a gun?
To administer first aid?
Isn’t a gun the NRA way?
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So if you would have shot him, why did you bring the gun? You claimed that shooting him would be self defense. Did you bring the gun to defend yourself?
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11-16-2021, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So if you would have shot him, why did you bring the gun? You claimed that shooting him would be self defense. Did you bring the gun to defend yourself?
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As I understand it, I have the right to arm myself and that is an unalienable right.
Do you think that is bad?
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11-16-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As I understand it, I have the right to arm myself and that is an inalienable right.
Do you think that is bad?
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I think Rittenhouse would agree with you. And would believe he has the same right.
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11-16-2021, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
I think Rittenhouse would agree with you. And would believe he has the same right.
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That’s what you think his answer would be, what’s yours?
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11-16-2021, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
If I saw an active shooter who had killed two people and I was armed and he was in front of me I would have shot Kyle.
That guy who had the guns mistake was he failed to pull the trigger.
It would have been self defense, the kid had already killed two other people.
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sure you would Pete. sure you would.
what you described is retaliation, not self defense. not unless you had a reason to believe you were next.
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11-16-2021, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
sure you would Pete. sure you would.
what you described is retaliation, not self defense. not unless you had a reason to believe you were next.
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Just saving the next victim.
Kyle will likely try to kill again
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11-16-2021, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Just saving the next victim.
Kyle will likely try to kill again
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no such thing as pre-emptive self defense. the threat to you
must be imminent.
sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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11-16-2021, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
no such thing as pre-emptive self defense. the threat to you
must be imminent.
sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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So you can only kill someone in self defense if you’re already dead?
Kyle didn’t even have someone in front of him with a gun.
Someone in front of you with a gun that’s already killed two people is an imminent threat.
Sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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