RIOT, ahem, Protest Season 2022 in 3, 2, xx

[detbuch]

[QUOTE=Pete F.;1226865]

Originally Posted by detbuch

If you travel across state borders out of your normal residence, bring a weapon and claim to be defending you’re a vigilante.
Spin it as you see fit
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He didn't bring a weapon across state lines. The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois. And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting. And he had a part time job as well as a friend and relatives in Kenosha so spent a lot of time there. It was not unusual or unexpected that he was in Kenosha.

You're the one doing all the spinning. I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. It might be more accurate to say that you are lying. Not unusual for you to do.

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=detbuch;1226869]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He didn't bring a weapon across state lines. The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois. And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting.

You're the one doing all the spinning. I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. It might be more accurate to say that you are lying. Not unusual for you to do.

he can’t stop
lying, because the truth doesn’t tell his story.
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[Pete F.]

[QUOTE=detbuch;1226869]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He didn't bring a weapon across state lines. The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois. And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting. And he had a part time job as well as a friend and relatives in Kenosha so spent a lot of time there. It was not unusual or unexpected that he was in Kenosha.

You're the one doing all the spinning. I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law. It might be more accurate to say that you are lying. Not unusual for you to do.

vig·i·lan·te
/ˌvijəˈlan(t)ē/

noun
a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

[detbuch]

[QUOTE=Pete F.;1226902]

Originally Posted by detbuch

vig·i·lan·te
/ˌvijəˈlan(t)ē/

noun
a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

Self defense, and defense of private property is not vigilantism. And sometimes, somewhere, legal agencies are inadequate, or even corrupt, or even the problem.

Of course, there's the tried and true legal way--wait for the crime to be committed, then call the police. Works really well when you're being attacked.

[Pete F.]

[QUOTE=detbuch;1226909]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Self defense, and defense of private property is not vigilantism. And sometimes, somewhere, legal agencies are inadequate, or even corrupt, or even the problem.

Of course, there's the tried and true legal way--wait for the crime to be committed, then call the police. Works really well when you're being attacked.

BLM protesters were “rioters”

January 6th insurrectionists were “peaceful tourists”

Ashley Babbitt was a “martyr”

George Floyd was a “thug”

Kyle Rittenhouse was a “hero”

The common theme is always the same: vilify the oppressed, glorify the powerful
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[detbuch]

[QUOTE=Pete F.;1226912]

Originally Posted by detbuch

BLM protesters were “rioters”

January 6th insurrectionists were “peaceful tourists”

Ashley Babbitt was a “martyr”

George Floyd was a “thug”

Kyle Rittenhouse was a “hero”

The common theme is always the same: vilify the oppressed, glorify the powerful
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The Jan6 protesters, Ashley Babbitt, Kyle Rittenhouse, were powerful? Really? You're straining hard to create one of your conjectured lies here. But you're right, Floyd was a thug (who was transformed into a "martyr"). And was more of an oppressor, than an oppressed.

It's a common theme with you--create narratives that are not true--in other words, lying.

[Pete F.]

[QUOTE=detbuch;1226914]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The Jan6 protesters, Ashley Babbitt, Kyle Rittenhouse, were powerful? Really? You're straining hard to create one of your conjectured lies here. But you're right, Floyd was a thug (who was transformed into a "martyr"). And was more of an oppressor, than an oppressed.

It's a common theme with you--create narratives that are not true--in other words, lying.

The January 6th insurrectionists including Ashley Babbitt thought they had the right to destroy federal property and attack the government
Kyle Rittenhouse thought he had the right to enforce the law.

Why was there only minimal police presence on January 6th?
Do you think if Kyle Rittenhouse was black he would have walked away armed from an active crime scene

Millions of people protested for BLM without incident
Nothing within the law gives police the right to summarily execute anyone


Your narrative is far from true
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[detbuch]

[QUOTE=Pete F.;1226916]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The January 6th insurrectionists including Ashley Babbitt thought they had the right to destroy federal property and attack the government
Kyle Rittenhouse thought he had the right to enforce the law.

There you go mind reading again. Eh, probably making stuff up about what was in their minds rather than actually reading their minds. Or maybe just conjecturing, assuming, etc. . . . the regular stuff you do. Is there evidence that Babbit destroyed any property. There is video of her trying to stop someone from breaking out the glass window which she afterwards tried to go through when she was shot and killed.

And where is there evidence that Rittenhouse "enforced" the law.
He didn't commit any crime. He defended himself. Is that a from of "enforcing" the law?

Why was there only minimal police presence on January 6th?

Because Ashley Babbit was "powerful"?

Do you think if Kyle Rittenhouse was black he would have walked away armed from an active crime scene

Are you insinuating that blacks have never done so?
There were several armed people there witnessing the crime scene who walked away from it. Rittenhouse defended himself, which you seem to prefer that he had been unsuccessful in doing so. You keep trying to frame the event as he being the guilty purpetrator, and everyone else being the innocent victims. The results of the trial showed that you have it backwards.

Millions of people protested for BLM without incident

Uhh . . . OK. Didn't know that anyone was saying that that's not true.

Nothing within the law gives police the right to summarily execute anyone

Uhh . . . OK. Is there some disagreement about that here to which you are referring. George Floyd was not "summarily executed." He was killed while resisting arrest. The police officer was convicted and sentenced to jail.

Your narrative is far from true
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Another one of your just say so stuff. What narrative and what was false about it?