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11-28-2006, 03:05 PM
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Location: somewhere on a rock
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van stall up $50.00
offshore angler magazine came today
seems that van staal went up $50.00 right across the board
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11-28-2006, 03:08 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Maine
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ouch, that makes the 275 mucho dinero now.... 
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11-28-2006, 03:09 PM
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729.00 mac
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11-28-2006, 03:10 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Newport, RI
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The 275 is already at '07 pricing. Everything else will go to the new pricing 1/1/07.
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11-28-2006, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
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Yup... I really wanted one too... I just can't spend that kind of money at the moment on it.
If anyone has a 150 with a bail that wants to sell after christmas, let me know!
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11-28-2006, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete_G
The 275 is already at '07 pricing. Everything else will go to the new pricing 1/1/07.
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Ok, that makes me feel better. Thanks 
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11-28-2006, 03:22 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Newport, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC
Ok, that makes me feel better. Thanks 
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Still hurts, but not as bad I guess...
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11-28-2006, 03:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
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Actually I have plans on getting one for next season. The thought of 779 scared me though.
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11-28-2006, 03:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
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The first production 275's just came in today for anyone interested in purchasing or taking a closer look at them.
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11-28-2006, 05:17 PM
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Wipe My Bottom
Join Date: Sep 2006
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11-28-2006, 05:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
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see I heard it was going to be a $80 increase so now $50 sounds ALITTLE better not much but alittle.
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11-29-2006, 08:37 AM
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You rang?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lowell
Posts: 946
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Has the technology changed in the 100,150,200 and 250 reels? If the technology has not changed the price should stay the same or even drop.
Am i wrong??
I can understand the higher cost of the saltiga reels as they have new and possibly better components but if the components in the VS are the same why the higher cost???
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11-29-2006, 08:40 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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I am sure the cost of materials (metal) goes along way when pricing! For that much money you can keep them!
Aluminum or stainless I think=precious metals!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-29-2006, 08:45 AM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
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Gotta consider that they cater to a niche, high end market and can't price things low and make their profit in quantity. How many reels can they really sell in a given year? They last a long time too so they don't get as many repeat customers either.
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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11-29-2006, 12:02 PM
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Been many moons
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Aquidneck Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim sylvester
729.00 mac
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Way to much. Guess it all depends on who you know.
VS200= $520
VS250= $560
VS275= $598
VS300= $607
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Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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11-29-2006, 12:07 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
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that's a good point clog, and I don't think an extra $50 is going to sway anybody that is planning on spending $700+ on a reel.
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11-29-2006, 12:26 PM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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pro & cons
VS reels in retrospect is no different than paying 20.+ dollars for a Habs plug I think the money we pay for a premium plugsis crazy but if that is what you want than u r going to pay for the good stuff. 
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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11-29-2006, 12:37 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clogston29
Gotta consider that they cater to a niche, high end market and can't price things low and make their profit in quantity. How many reels can they really sell in a given year? They last a long time too so they don't get as many repeat customers either.
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This is Zebco/Quantum we're talking about. They sell more reels than anyone  Van Staal represents a very small fraction of their overall manufacturing, and they don't need a huge profit margain on them.
Charging what the market will bear is something else, and you can't blame a company for doing that. Let the market decide if they're overpriced.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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11-29-2006, 03:55 PM
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You rang?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lowell
Posts: 946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefLinesider
Way to much. Guess it all depends on who you know.
VS200= $520
VS250= $560
VS275= $598
VS300= $607
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Hook us up!!!
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11-29-2006, 06:47 PM
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Salt of the Earth
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Suburbia, RI
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how much do you think it costs to make those reels?
most fly reels are in the same boat....
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11-29-2006, 07:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Philadelphia
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Pure guess not including overhead- somewhere around $150 assuming they do their own machining.
Another pure guess - management is looking for the ceiling of what people will pay. Zee Baas, Saltiga, Accurate must have the big wigs thinking whether or not they can get more.
Luxury items also sometimes have an upward sloping demand curve, meaning people buy more as the cost increases.
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11-29-2006, 09:55 PM
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Been many moons
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Aquidneck Island
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Last edited by ChiefLinesider; 11-30-2006 at 11:37 AM..
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Standing on the water, casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing
Distant ships sailing into the mist
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing
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11-30-2006, 10:07 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wheresmy50
Another pure guess - management is looking for the ceiling of what people will pay. Zee Baas, Saltiga, Accurate must have the big wigs thinking whether or not they can get more.
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Based on one guy's experience with the Accurate, they should be slashing the price on that one
3 handle bushings in 2 years?? For 900 beans??? WTF??
Maybe he got a lemon, but he's the only Accurate user I ever met.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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12-01-2006, 09:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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I think it's a fair increase.
They have been the same price for more than a few yrs.
Those prices are what is suggested i'm pretty sure they have a limit to the bottom end. some guys can get them cheaper but they are not supposed to be sold at that rate..I'm pretty sure they run the risk of getting them pulled as a distributor if they sell em too cheap..
I'm lookin for a 300 anybody have one they want to sell...
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FORE!
It's usually darkest just before it turns Black..
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12-01-2006, 09:43 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lurch
Has the technology changed in the 100,150,200 and 250 reels? If the technology has not changed the price should stay the same or even drop.
Am i wrong??
I can understand the higher cost of the saltiga reels as they have new and possibly better components but if the components in the VS are the same why the higher cost???
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With in the last year copper and aluminum has tripled in price maybe even more, I was turning in scrap copper and getting $3.50 a pound, turn in 100 pounds that's $350.00. for trash basically. so I can understand the cost increase. but that is why I have bought all mine used and saved a ton of money. A VS250B just sold for $150.00 on SOL 2 days ago.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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12-01-2006, 09:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: West Deptford, NJ
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I heard about the increase, so I got my 2nd vs yesterday while I could save the $50!!
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The world is a strange place.......let's keep it that way.
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12-03-2006, 10:06 AM
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Wipe My Bottom
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,911
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Based on one guy's experience with the Accurate, they should be slashing the price on that one
3 handle bushings in 2 years?? For 900 beans??? WTF??
Maybe he got a lemon, but he's the only Accurate user I ever met.
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I get chuckles out of Accurate's spinning product, but their offshore reels are second to none. 
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